Re: Selecting Hardware for Music Production

2008-10-26 Thread Matthew Polashek


Sean Darby wrote:
> Hi again!
>
>   
>> PCI seems to be the most solid most of the time.  M-Audio and RME are 
>> the most well supported, but EMU is right behind I believe.
>> 
>
> When you said EMU is "right behind" did you mean EMU or RME currently
> has more support for Linux?
>   

RME used to have their Linux drivers on their website.  Lots of 
support!  Same thing for M-audio.

EMU never did.  However, there has been some great work by developers on 
the EMU drivers.

> If both are pretty solid anyway, I'm guessing it doesn't matter too
> much. If I see any gear that's equivalent between the two I might go for
> the one at a more affordable cost.
>
>   

RME has a better clock.

>> Firewire audio drivers are not well developed and the hardware 
>> manufactures have not been forthcoming with assistance.
>> 
>
> That makes sense. I never even heard of FFADO until someone mentioned it
> in here.
>
> Actually, I never heard of "MADI"/multichannel audio digital interface,
> either. (Whoops, I thought it was "inputs" for the "I".)
>
>   
>> The best IMHO is the RME Hammerfall series.  The 9652 is pretty great 
>> and really well supported in Linux by the manufacturer.  An RME card 
>> with an Apogee clock and A/D with a True Systems Mic pre is a pretty 
>> common find in a studio these days.
>> 
>
> Cool! I'll try to put RME at the top of the list of options to consider.
>
> ...now if I can figure out how to incorporate other audio gear into the
> mix along with the appropriate RME device (all of that hopefully at an
> affordable price).
>
>   

One possible chain could work like this:

Sound source --> At2020 --> Behringer ADA 8000 --> RME 9652 --> Jack --> 
ardour --> disc.

How does that sound?  Check out my sax tracks on jandmjazz.com.

>> There are RME interfaces with Breakout boxes and without.  The Multiface 
>> and DIGIface are good as well as the hammerfall PCI stuff.
>> 
>
> So much RME stuff, I wouldn't know where to start! :)
>
> Thanks again! Great input!
>
> Sean Darby
>
>
>   

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Re: Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 18, Issue 42

2008-10-26 Thread Matthew Polashek


Sean Darby wrote:
>> A&H are considered, by many in the pro sound world, as high end gear;
>> probably on the same shelf or next one up compared to Mackie or Yamaha.
>> 
>
> That's cool about A&H. :)
>
>   

Just got back from a gig.  We use an Allen and Heath Mix Wizard 16:2 
with that band.  It's a very large step up from the Mackie 1604 we were 
using as far as audio quality goes.  Yummy.  Also, they stand behind 
their stuff.  Very, very good warranty service.

>> As for how it or any other hardware may work with UbuStu, can't say. So far
>> my time spent in UbuStu has had nothing to do with sound and all to do with
>> figuring out what broke after every update... :-(
>> 
>
> Yikes. Hopefully the "up-breaks" stop or turn into actual effective
> updates.
>
>
>   

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Re: Mackie 802-VLZ3 + Studio Monitors

2008-10-26 Thread Sean Darby
> 1) Regarding the mixer, you've chosen a very good brand for it. Mackie
> es definitely not the cheapest, but its the one I recommend to
> everyone. they''ve got the most renowned built-in amps (very very
> silent) and very good eq's (esp. parametric ones on bigger mixers).
> The one you talk about is compact enough for home and has many uses,
> but as a musician I can see one downside: it has no inserts! make sure
> you wont be needing them, otherwise you'll find yourself re-routing
> signals and wasting channels on your small mixer. the plus side is the
> following size up mackie, the 1202 comes with them if needed.

Hi John,

Thank you for the response and feedback.

Regarding mixer, I'd like one that has plenty of channels but I don't
need too many. I'd like to have the slider-version of faders if
possible. I don't really need a mixer with the "fx" features. I'm not
sure if I'll need one with digital out - I'm guessing I do, even if it's
an analog mixer, since I'll be recording onto my actual computer and
mastering it there.

How would either of these 2 mixers do in place of the previous one?

A) Mackie DFX12
http://www.zzounds.com/item--MACDFX12

B) Yamaha MG124C
http://www.zzounds.com/item--YAMMG124C

The Yamaha doesn't have the effects, which is nice, though I do like
Mackie, yet that one has the effects. I couldn't find a "non-fx" version
of the DFX12.

I think that both of those have inserts.

They also have the slider faders rather than dials/knobs for faders,
which I like.

> 2) Studio monitors are imporant too. You want to choose something
> thats reliable that tells you the truth about whats sounding. But also
> that would depend on what sort of music you're making (electronic, or
> hiphop will be monitored differently from a pop/rock track). I'm
> guessing you'll be recording, mixing, and mastering on the same
> speakers so you probably want a very flat response from them. I use
> the Yamaha HS-50s which are remarkably flat. 
> Best thing to do is go to music production shop, take a mix cd with
> tracks you know very well and try 2 or 3 monitors you might want to
> buy.

I like that the HS-50s add up to less than the HS-80s ($400 versus $700
for two), though, is it possible to get a quality pair of studio
monitors for even less than $400?

On a microphone side-topic: I was originally considering the SM57,
though have since considered condensors - looking at possibly getting
either AT2020, Samson C01, or Samson C03. At the moment I'm leaning
toward the AT2020. I'm not sure yet how many I'll need (for starting out
with, at least).

Thanks!

Sean Darby


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Re: Mackie 802-VLZ3 + Studio Monitors

2008-10-26 Thread John Cohen
Sorry I'm late into the convesation and will be away when I love talking
about this!

1) Regarding the mixer, you've chosen a very good brand for it. Mackie es
definitely not the cheapest, but its the one I recommend to everyone.
they''ve got the most renowned built-in amps (very very silent) and very
good eq's (esp. parametric ones on bigger mixers). The one you talk about is
compact enough for home and has many uses, but as a musician I can see one
downside: it has no inserts! make sure you wont be needing them, otherwise
you'll find yourself re-routing signals and wasting channels on your small
mixer. the plus side is the following size up mackie, the 1202 comes with
them if needed.

2) Studio monitors are imporant too. You want to choose something thats
reliable that tells you the truth about whats sounding. But also that would
depend on what sort of music you're making (electronic, or hiphop will be
monitored differently from a pop/rock track). I'm guessing you'll be
recording, mixing, and mastering on the same speakers so you probably want a
very flat response from them. I use the Yamaha HS-50s which are remarkably
flat.
Best thing to do is go to music production shop, take a mix cd with tracks
you know very well and try 2 or 3 monitors you might want to buy.

good luck!

john
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