Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] fix ubuntu studio install
Well it's turned into a bit of a mess but recoverable. Because the new (to me) laptop is about 5 years old and is legacy/UEFI switchable, I was advised that using legacy will cause issues so I decided to do a format/reinstall of both using UEFI. I didn't realise until I'd reinstalled Windows that because I'd upgraded to 10 from 7 my license key would no longer be valid (NOT cool MS!) so I'm stuck with the Home edition until I buy a Pro key. I've searched for ways around it, tried various methods, even spoke to MS customer service, but I'm stuck with it. I'm wary of installing US until I get Windows sorted but I'm sure it'll be fine eventually. All because I upgraded US! Thanks for trying though George, I do appreciate it On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 at 20:22, George Swan wrote: > Hey there Babsky I'm sorry Boot Repair didn't work make sure you have the > latest version it really makes a big difference. For me if I was > reinstalling I would just try reinstalling the Linux Ubuntu first then let > it find the other operating system like Windows and it should also see your > old Ubuntu installation as well. It should then set your boot up correctly > with the multi-boot then. I would never re-install Windows because of > something like this but you have to make sure its all gd first. Yo can also > repair Windows as a last resort but reinstalling Ubuntu Studio should solve > all those problems and leave you with the multi boot option for sure. > Luckily you can install Ubuntu many times and that has usually worked for > me. Linux first then check it all from Linux and then from Windows. Good > luck Babsky I hope this works it should. > > On Sat, 2023-12-23 at 19:31 +, BabsKy wrote: > > Thanks George, unfortunately it didn’t work for me. I had the same thought > myself as I have also used Boot Repair successfully before. I burnt it onto > a disk then booted from that disk. It all seemed to be going well until it > suddenly said repair cancelled (can’t remember the actual wording). I tried > a couple of times but no go. > I think it’s going to have to be a complete reinstall of both Windows and > Ubuntu Studio unfortunately, which I was trying to avoid but if I can’t fix > US I have no other option. > > On 19 Dec 2023, at 20:52, George Swan wrote: > > Hey there quick message, I used the Boot Repair Tool successfully for this > issue many times and it has always worked for me. You have to run it from a > CD or DVD I cant remember which and then choose Boot from disk when booting > your laptop. The Boot repair tool doesn't always work for me when installed > either but you have to boot from the Boot Repair tool on the CD/DVD disk. > This has worked for me many times I love the boot repair tool it is the > best for sure. Have a great day good luck and let us all know if that helps > and donate to the Boot Repair tool if pos. Thanks > > Best, > George Swan > > On Mon, 2023-12-18 at 23:04 +, BabsKy wrote: > > I made the mistake of upgrading Ubuntu Studio on my dual boot. The first > problem was no grub so I enabled OS prober and updated the grub but it > still didn't work. Still no grub and boots straight into Ubuntu Studio. I > can see Windows on the HD, but I just can't boot into it. I also can't do > any updates or install anything (tried installing boot-repair). It gets so > far then says something about too many errors and nothing is > installed/updated. I've created a bootable USB but my laptop will only boot > from the USB if in UEFI mode, but then, of course, it doesn't recognise > either OS on the HD. The only blank discs I have are too small for Ubuntu > Studio. I ordered some larger capacity discs but, long story short, I'm not > getting them but I am getting a refund. I've tried starting US in recovery > mode but I'm guessing it's not broken enough? I have the option of trying > to repair the Windows MBR and possibly wiping the US partition but ideally > I'd like to keep both. > Any ideas how/if I can fix this? > > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] fix ubuntu studio install
Thanks George, unfortunately it didn’t work for me. I had the same thought myself as I have also used Boot Repair successfully before. I burnt it onto a disk then booted from that disk. It all seemed to be going well until it suddenly said repair cancelled (can’t remember the actual wording). I tried a couple of times but no go. I think it’s going to have to be a complete reinstall of both Windows and Ubuntu Studio unfortunately, which I was trying to avoid but if I can’t fix US I have no other option. > On 19 Dec 2023, at 20:52, George Swan wrote: > > Hey there quick message, I used the Boot Repair Tool successfully for this > issue many times and it has always worked for me. You have to run it from a > CD or DVD I cant remember which and then choose Boot from disk when booting > your laptop. The Boot repair tool doesn't always work for me when installed > either but you have to boot from the Boot Repair tool on the CD/DVD disk. > This has worked for me many times I love the boot repair tool it is the best > for sure. Have a great day good luck and let us all know if that helps and > donate to the Boot Repair tool if pos. Thanks > > Best, > George Swan > > On Mon, 2023-12-18 at 23:04 +, BabsKy wrote: >> I made the mistake of upgrading Ubuntu Studio on my dual boot. The first >> problem was no grub so I enabled OS prober and updated the grub but it still >> didn't work. Still no grub and boots straight into Ubuntu Studio. I can see >> Windows on the HD, but I just can't boot into it. I also can't do any >> updates or install anything (tried installing boot-repair). It gets so far >> then says something about too many errors and nothing is installed/updated. >> I've created a bootable USB but my laptop will only boot from the USB if in >> UEFI mode, but then, of course, it doesn't recognise either OS on the HD. >> The only blank discs I have are too small for Ubuntu Studio. I ordered some >> larger capacity discs but, long story short, I'm not getting them but I am >> getting a refund. I've tried starting US in recovery mode but I'm guessing >> it's not broken enough? I have the option of trying to repair the Windows >> MBR and possibly wiping the US partition but ideally I'd like to keep both. >> Any ideas how/if I can fix this? > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[ubuntu-studio-users] fix ubuntu studio install
I made the mistake of upgrading Ubuntu Studio on my dual boot. The first problem was no grub so I enabled OS prober and updated the grub but it still didn't work. Still no grub and boots straight into Ubuntu Studio. I can see Windows on the HD, but I just can't boot into it. I also can't do any updates or install anything (tried installing boot-repair). It gets so far then says something about too many errors and nothing is installed/updated. I've created a bootable USB but my laptop will only boot from the USB if in UEFI mode, but then, of course, it doesn't recognise either OS on the HD. The only blank discs I have are too small for Ubuntu Studio. I ordered some larger capacity discs but, long story short, I'm not getting them but I am getting a refund. I've tried starting US in recovery mode but I'm guessing it's not broken enough? I have the option of trying to repair the Windows MBR and possibly wiping the US partition but ideally I'd like to keep both. Any ideas how/if I can fix this? -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Proposal to sunset #ubuntustudio-offtopic
We have signage for our IT sessions that people don’t see. We used to hold our sessions on a mezzanine that had a sign on a stand smack in the middle at the bottom of the stairs, people would squeeze past the sign to come up to the mezzanine and then be surprised when we told them we were in a session. We currently use a separate room and always put signage on the door, at eye level, but people still don’t see it. As for being aggressive, there are several possible reasons, in my experience; 1. English isn’t everyone’s first language and some don’t have a good understanding of it. 2. Mental health issues or physical brain damage/physical limitations, certain medication, can cause aggressive behaviour. 3. Lack of understanding, rooted in either 1 or 2 above, can cause frustration which can appear to be or lead to aggression. 4. Some people need handholding. Vague direction isn’t enough, you have to give unambiguous, “foolproof” direction. In this case that would be a link. I have one of these customers, he’s a nice man but has NO common sense whatsoever. He needs clear, step by step instructions. Although he often gets frustrated with himself he doesn’t get aggressive, but there are some that do. Maybe they’ve been spoilt and expect everything to be handed to them on a plate? In an ideal world you wouldn’t have to change anything to satisfy the minority, if they would be satisfied? but we don’t live in an ideal world so combining may be the way to go? > On 7 Oct 2023, at 05:02, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: > > Yep, it was signposted very clearly, but apparently people didn't understand > the difference between "community" and "support" and didn't see the bold > letters in the community page saying "do not use this chat for technical > support." Furthermore, this one person claimed the term "technical support" > is subjective, which I'm still confused about. > > Either way, I think removing the guesswork is the best way forward. One chat > room, less ambiguity, keeping the development collaboration separate still. > > -Erich > > On 10/6/23 15:38, BabsKy wrote: >> I didn’t even know there was a #ubuntustudio-offtopic! >> Unfortunately there will always be people like that and I’m sure you’re not >> letting them get to you, it’s sad that this is the world we live in. I’m one >> of a team of volunteer IT trainers and we also have to deal with abuse >> occasionally, usually verbal but it has escalated once or twice. >> I can understand users not being familiar with the correct avenues for help >> and can understand how frustrating it can be in that situation, so making it >> as easy as possible and the correct routes as clearly signposted as possible >> is all you can do. >> >>> On 5 Oct 2023, at 20:15, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> There was an incident the other day in which someone requested support in >>> the #ubuntustudio-offtopic IRC channel. I answered their question but >>> requested they move to #ubuntustudio since this gets more view (and is >>> properly logged), but instead of doing the right thing and doing what was >>> requested, this person decided to berate me, then threaten me which then >>> got them kicked out and banned for violating the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, >>> after which they continued to threaten me via private message, which then >>> got them reported to staff and, likely, K-lined. >>> >>> This, however, did get me thinking: this isn't the first time people have >>> been confused about the purpose of #ubuntustudio-offtopic, though this is >>> the first time someone has been so verbally violent about it. Additionally, >>> #ubuntustudio-offtopic doesn't see much use other than Krytarik correcting >>> my grammar. :) >>> >>> With that, I propose sunsetting #ubuntustudio-offtopic and combining it >>> with #ubuntustudio to make #ubuntustudio a support *and* discussion >>> channel, but anything other than the topic of Ubuntu Studio would be >>> requested to move to #ubuntu-offtopic for general chit-chat, as >>> #ubuntu-offtopic is a much more active room. The general idea is to lower >>> the confusion and to allow people to feel more welcome to discuss Ubuntu >>> Studio in our main chat. >>> >>> Let me know your thoughts. >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> Erich >>> -- >>> Erich Eickmeyer >>> Project Lead - Ubuntu Studio >>> Technical Lead - Edubuntu >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ubuntu-studio-users mailing list >>> ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users >> > > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Proposal to sunset #ubuntustudio-offtopic
I didn’t even know there was a #ubuntustudio-offtopic! Unfortunately there will always be people like that and I’m sure you’re not letting them get to you, it’s sad that this is the world we live in. I’m one of a team of volunteer IT trainers and we also have to deal with abuse occasionally, usually verbal but it has escalated once or twice. I can understand users not being familiar with the correct avenues for help and can understand how frustrating it can be in that situation, so making it as easy as possible and the correct routes as clearly signposted as possible is all you can do. > On 5 Oct 2023, at 20:15, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: > > Hi all, > > There was an incident the other day in which someone requested support in the > #ubuntustudio-offtopic IRC channel. I answered their question but requested > they move to #ubuntustudio since this gets more view (and is properly > logged), but instead of doing the right thing and doing what was requested, > this person decided to berate me, then threaten me which then got them kicked > out and banned for violating the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, after which they > continued to threaten me via private message, which then got them reported to > staff and, likely, K-lined. > > This, however, did get me thinking: this isn't the first time people have > been confused about the purpose of #ubuntustudio-offtopic, though this is the > first time someone has been so verbally violent about it. Additionally, > #ubuntustudio-offtopic doesn't see much use other than Krytarik correcting my > grammar. :) > > With that, I propose sunsetting #ubuntustudio-offtopic and combining it with > #ubuntustudio to make #ubuntustudio a support *and* discussion channel, but > anything other than the topic of Ubuntu Studio would be requested to move to > #ubuntu-offtopic for general chit-chat, as #ubuntu-offtopic is a much more > active room. The general idea is to lower the confusion and to allow people > to feel more welcome to discuss Ubuntu Studio in our main chat. > > Let me know your thoughts. > > Thanks in advance, > Erich > -- > Erich Eickmeyer > Project Lead - Ubuntu Studio > Technical Lead - Edubuntu > > > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[ubuntu-studio-users] 20.10
I upgraded yesterday and just wanted to say, I love it! Installation went well eventually. I backed up first, of course, then replaced 20.04 partition. (I have a Windows/|Ubuntu Studio dual boot setup). First attempt, the installer got stuck on the partitions section and I had to reboot to get anywhere. Second attempt, I can't even remember what happened tbh but the installer froze again. I remember cancelling but can't remember why? This time I found task manager (system monitor) and killed the process. Third attempt, went really well and installed quicker than expected :-) I would like to add I spent the weekend in hospital so I'm not my usual self, surgery, pain an all that. This has been a welcome distraction and definitely cheered me up! As I said, I love it! I want to say a massive thank you to everyone involved, you do an awesome job and you are appreciated :-) -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] ubuntu-studio-users Digest, Vol 158, Issue 8
Isn't Applications on the desktop context menu an option in the desktop settings? On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 17:26, Doc C wrote: > Hmm, one thing that I really like is the ability to right click on the > desktop and get to my "Applications" sub-menu. I downloaded Kubuntu and > fired it up in virtualbox and it does NOT have the applications menu > available from a right click on the desktop. > > Does anybody know how easy this would be to "fix" and can we make sure > that feature is available in Ubuntu Studio as that transition occurs? > Please? > > Best, > Chris > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 5:00 AM < > ubuntu-studio-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com> wrote: > >> Send ubuntu-studio-users mailing list submissions to >> ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> ubuntu-studio-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> ubuntu-studio-users-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-studio-users digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Re: Fwd: Re: the new ubuntustudio20.04 and KDE (Glenn Holmer) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:40:17 -0500 >> From: Glenn Holmer >> To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com >> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Fwd: Re: the new ubuntustudio20.04 >> and KDE >> Message-ID: <805dfc1b-558b-d576-ccad-e8b128087...@kolabnow.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> On 6/23/20 8:19 PM, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: >> > Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS will remain Xfce. Support will continue until >> > April 2023. >> > >> > Ubuntu Studio 20.10 and onward will be KDE Plasma. >> >> I, for one, welcome our new Plasma overlords. >> >> -- >> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) >> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." >> -- next part -- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: cenbe.vcf >> Type: text/x-vcard >> Size: 4 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: < >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/attachments/20200624/42e8ad95/attachment-0001.vcf >> > >> >> -- >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> -- >> ubuntu-studio-users mailing list >> ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users >> >> >> -- >> >> End of ubuntu-studio-users Digest, Vol 158, Issue 8 >> *** >> > > > -- > Christopher G. Wilson, Ph.D. > Neurophysiologist > 216-346-1655 > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Next Gimp issue - no python
The release notes suggest (on newly installed systems) installing python-is-python3 package for a /usr/bin/python pointing to python3 instead. It still doesn't fix the problem, I think it has to be Gimp specific python. I'm using the Appimage, it is integrated so it still appears on the menu/app list and I can still add assets. On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 18:06, Ross Gammon wrote: > In case it helps. The Focal (20.04) Release Notes have some information > about the "Python 3 by default" change. How to handle it depends on > whether it is a fresh install, or an upgrade. > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes > > On 11/05/2020 23:52, BabsKy wrote: > > I just checked the US 20.04 beta (run from disc) and that has loads of > > '/usr/bin/env: ‘python’: No such file or directory' too, and no python. > > Did the update alternatives, now getting loads of "from gimpfu import > > * ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'gimpfu'" errors. > > These errors are for the .py scripts now 'built in' to Gimp. > > There's more people with the same issue online now than there was > > yesterday but the only solutions are either get the appimage or use Gimp > > on Windows I really don't want to do either of those but if I get too > > stuck I'll probably go with the appimage option and hold out for a > > better solution. > > Thanks for all your help Ross > > > > > > On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 21:25, Ross Mohn > <mailto:rpm...@waxandwane.org>> wrote: > > > > The update-alternatives command should create the > > /etc/alternatives/python link for you just fine. > > > > On 5/11/20 3:56 PM, BabsKy wrote: > >> Sorry, had to dogsit for a bit. > >> env is in usr/bin, don't know how I missed it before. > >> There are a few pythons in usr/bin (2 (link to py2.7), 2.7 (shared > >> lib), 3 (link to py3.8), 3.8 (exe), and a few more py 3) but none > >> in alternatives. > >> Setting usr/bin/python to point to /etc/alternatives/python won't > >> work if it's not there. > >> > >> Do I have to set the python path environment variable? I'm only > >> guessing but is 'env' a list of environment variables? All I know > >> is that it's a library. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 19:26, Ross Mohn >> <mailto:rpm...@waxandwane.org>> wrote: > >> > >> Take a look at what python stuff is in /usr/bin right now. > >> There should be several symbolic links. > >> > >> * ls -l /usr/bin/python* /etc/alternatives/python* > >> > >> My guess is that /usr/bin/python is either missing altogether > >> or is pointing to some version of python2 that has been > >> removed. If you run this command it will set /usr/bin/python > >> to point to /etc/alternatives/python, which in turn will point > >> to /usr/bin/python3. > >> > >> * sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/python > >> python /usr/bin/python3 1 > >> * python --version > >> should now return 'Python 3.8.2' > >> > >> That should get the 'python' command pointing to a valid > >> python installation again. Your next issue might be that some > >> older python scripts will have to be updated to be compatible > >> with python3, but fixing those will be a one-time thing and > >> will get you positioned well for the long term. > >> > >> -Ross > >> > >> > >> On 5/11/20 1:58 PM, BabsKy wrote: > >>> All 'python' commands (tried a few variations) returned > >>> "command 'python' not found", > >>> 'python3 --version' returned 'Python 3.8.2'. > >>> I think it's Gimp python as this has been an issue before, as > >>> I mentioned, but I don't know what specifically to install, > >>> it doesn't seem to be 'Gimp python' as it was before. > >>> I've tinkered with thonny for writing python scripts for Gimp > >>> and it that it was pygimp but I'm stumped. I don't want to > >>> randomly install stuff in case I make it worse. > >>> > >>> On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 17:58, Ross Mohn > >>> mailto:rpm...@waxandwane.org>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Here are the steps I used: &
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Next Gimp issue - no python
I just checked the US 20.04 beta (run from disc) and that has loads of '/usr/bin/env: ‘python’: No such file or directory' too, and no python. Did the update alternatives, now getting loads of "from gimpfu import * ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'gimpfu'" errors. These errors are for the .py scripts now 'built in' to Gimp. There's more people with the same issue online now than there was yesterday but the only solutions are either get the appimage or use Gimp on Windows I really don't want to do either of those but if I get too stuck I'll probably go with the appimage option and hold out for a better solution. Thanks for all your help Ross On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 21:25, Ross Mohn wrote: > The update-alternatives command should create the /etc/alternatives/python > link for you just fine. > > On 5/11/20 3:56 PM, BabsKy wrote: > > Sorry, had to dogsit for a bit. > env is in usr/bin, don't know how I missed it before. > There are a few pythons in usr/bin (2 (link to py2.7), 2.7 (shared lib), 3 > (link to py3.8), 3.8 (exe), and a few more py 3) but none in alternatives. > Setting usr/bin/python to point to /etc/alternatives/python won't work if > it's not there. > > Do I have to set the python path environment variable? I'm only guessing > but is 'env' a list of environment variables? All I know is that it's a > library. > > > > On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 19:26, Ross Mohn wrote: > >> Take a look at what python stuff is in /usr/bin right now. There should >> be several symbolic links. >> >> * ls -l /usr/bin/python* /etc/alternatives/python* >> >> My guess is that /usr/bin/python is either missing altogether or is >> pointing to some version of python2 that has been removed. If you run this >> command it will set /usr/bin/python to point to /etc/alternatives/python, >> which in turn will point to /usr/bin/python3. >> >> * sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/python python >> /usr/bin/python3 1 >> * python --version >> should now return 'Python 3.8.2' >> >> That should get the 'python' command pointing to a valid python >> installation again. Your next issue might be that some older python scripts >> will have to be updated to be compatible with python3, but fixing those >> will be a one-time thing and will get you positioned well for the long >> term. >> >> -Ross >> >> >> On 5/11/20 1:58 PM, BabsKy wrote: >> >> All 'python' commands (tried a few variations) returned "command 'python' >> not found", >> 'python3 --version' returned 'Python 3.8.2'. >> I think it's Gimp python as this has been an issue before, as I >> mentioned, but I don't know what specifically to install, it doesn't seem >> to be 'Gimp python' as it was before. >> I've tinkered with thonny for writing python scripts for Gimp and it that >> it was pygimp but I'm stumped. I don't want to randomly install stuff in >> case I make it worse. >> >> On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 17:58, Ross Mohn wrote: >> >>> Here are the steps I used: >>> >>>1. Check current system python version is 2.x >>>sudo python --version >>>2. Execute this command to switch to python3 >>> sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/python python >>>/usr/bin/python3 1 >>>3. Verify system python version is now 3.x >>>sudo python --version >>> >>> based on steps I found in this post: >>> >>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/410579/change-the-python3-default-version-in-ubuntu >>> >>> -Ross >>> >>> >>> On 5/11/20 12:10 PM, BabsKy wrote: >>> >>> I'm surprised that python (for Gimp) isn't installed by default on >>> Linux, that's what's caused this issue before. >>> I'll try anything to get it working, python plays a large part of my >>> Gimp workflow. >>> Sorry to ask but how would I manually set python3 as the default? >>> >>> On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 16:54, Ross Mohn wrote: >>> >>>> Can you try 'python3'? On a side note, I was surprised that python3 was >>>> note the default in the upgrade. I had manually set python3 as the default >>>> in my 19.10 and that was switched back to python 2.x when I upgraded. >>>> >>>> -Ross >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/11/20 7:38 AM, BabsKy wrote: >>>> >>>> So I did a clean install and Gimp now loads and works mostly OK. The >>>> issue now is it can't find python. >>>> I know this has been an issue wi
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Next Gimp issue - no python
Sorry, had to dogsit for a bit. env is in usr/bin, don't know how I missed it before. There are a few pythons in usr/bin (2 (link to py2.7), 2.7 (shared lib), 3 (link to py3.8), 3.8 (exe), and a few more py 3) but none in alternatives. Setting usr/bin/python to point to /etc/alternatives/python won't work if it's not there. Do I have to set the python path environment variable? I'm only guessing but is 'env' a list of environment variables? All I know is that it's a library. On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 19:26, Ross Mohn wrote: > Take a look at what python stuff is in /usr/bin right now. There should be > several symbolic links. > > * ls -l /usr/bin/python* /etc/alternatives/python* > > My guess is that /usr/bin/python is either missing altogether or is > pointing to some version of python2 that has been removed. If you run this > command it will set /usr/bin/python to point to /etc/alternatives/python, > which in turn will point to /usr/bin/python3. > > * sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/python python > /usr/bin/python3 1 > * python --version > should now return 'Python 3.8.2' > > That should get the 'python' command pointing to a valid python > installation again. Your next issue might be that some older python scripts > will have to be updated to be compatible with python3, but fixing those > will be a one-time thing and will get you positioned well for the long > term. > > -Ross > > > On 5/11/20 1:58 PM, BabsKy wrote: > > All 'python' commands (tried a few variations) returned "command 'python' > not found", > 'python3 --version' returned 'Python 3.8.2'. > I think it's Gimp python as this has been an issue before, as I mentioned, > but I don't know what specifically to install, it doesn't seem to be 'Gimp > python' as it was before. > I've tinkered with thonny for writing python scripts for Gimp and it that > it was pygimp but I'm stumped. I don't want to randomly install stuff in > case I make it worse. > > On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 17:58, Ross Mohn wrote: > >> Here are the steps I used: >> >>1. Check current system python version is 2.x >>sudo python --version >>2. Execute this command to switch to python3 >>sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/python python >>/usr/bin/python3 1 >>3. Verify system python version is now 3.x >>sudo python --version >> >> based on steps I found in this post: >> >> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/410579/change-the-python3-default-version-in-ubuntu >> >> -Ross >> >> >> On 5/11/20 12:10 PM, BabsKy wrote: >> >> I'm surprised that python (for Gimp) isn't installed by default on Linux, >> that's what's caused this issue before. >> I'll try anything to get it working, python plays a large part of my Gimp >> workflow. >> Sorry to ask but how would I manually set python3 as the default? >> >> On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 16:54, Ross Mohn wrote: >> >>> Can you try 'python3'? On a side note, I was surprised that python3 was >>> note the default in the upgrade. I had manually set python3 as the default >>> in my 19.10 and that was switched back to python 2.x when I upgraded. >>> >>> -Ross >>> >>> >>> On 5/11/20 7:38 AM, BabsKy wrote: >>> >>> So I did a clean install and Gimp now loads and works mostly OK. The >>> issue now is it can't find python. >>> I know this has been an issue with Gimp on Linux previously and it could >>> be solved by 'sudo apt install gimp-python', but this doesn't work. >>> >>> Output from terminal '/usr/bin/env: ‘python’: No such file or directory' >>> I can see there's no env in bin. >>> Does anyone know how to fix this please? >>> I have searched online but the solutions aren't relevant to the current >>> Gimp version/Linux. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ubuntu-studio-users mailing list >>> ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users >>> >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-studio-users mailing list >> ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users >> > > > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Next Gimp issue - no python
All 'python' commands (tried a few variations) returned "command 'python' not found", 'python3 --version' returned 'Python 3.8.2'. I think it's Gimp python as this has been an issue before, as I mentioned, but I don't know what specifically to install, it doesn't seem to be 'Gimp python' as it was before. I've tinkered with thonny for writing python scripts for Gimp and it that it was pygimp but I'm stumped. I don't want to randomly install stuff in case I make it worse. On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 17:58, Ross Mohn wrote: > Here are the steps I used: > >1. Check current system python version is 2.x >sudo python --version >2. Execute this command to switch to python3 >sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/python python >/usr/bin/python3 1 >3. Verify system python version is now 3.x >sudo python --version > > based on steps I found in this post: > > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/410579/change-the-python3-default-version-in-ubuntu > > -Ross > > > On 5/11/20 12:10 PM, BabsKy wrote: > > I'm surprised that python (for Gimp) isn't installed by default on Linux, > that's what's caused this issue before. > I'll try anything to get it working, python plays a large part of my Gimp > workflow. > Sorry to ask but how would I manually set python3 as the default? > > On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 16:54, Ross Mohn wrote: > >> Can you try 'python3'? On a side note, I was surprised that python3 was >> note the default in the upgrade. I had manually set python3 as the default >> in my 19.10 and that was switched back to python 2.x when I upgraded. >> >> -Ross >> >> >> On 5/11/20 7:38 AM, BabsKy wrote: >> >> So I did a clean install and Gimp now loads and works mostly OK. The >> issue now is it can't find python. >> I know this has been an issue with Gimp on Linux previously and it could >> be solved by 'sudo apt install gimp-python', but this doesn't work. >> >> Output from terminal '/usr/bin/env: ‘python’: No such file or directory' >> I can see there's no env in bin. >> Does anyone know how to fix this please? >> I have searched online but the solutions aren't relevant to the current >> Gimp version/Linux. >> >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-studio-users mailing list >> ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users >> > > > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Next Gimp issue - no python
I'm surprised that python (for Gimp) isn't installed by default on Linux, that's what's caused this issue before. I'll try anything to get it working, python plays a large part of my Gimp workflow. Sorry to ask but how would I manually set python3 as the default? On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 16:54, Ross Mohn wrote: > Can you try 'python3'? On a side note, I was surprised that python3 was > note the default in the upgrade. I had manually set python3 as the default > in my 19.10 and that was switched back to python 2.x when I upgraded. > > -Ross > > > On 5/11/20 7:38 AM, BabsKy wrote: > > So I did a clean install and Gimp now loads and works mostly OK. The issue > now is it can't find python. > I know this has been an issue with Gimp on Linux previously and it could > be solved by 'sudo apt install gimp-python', but this doesn't work. > > Output from terminal '/usr/bin/env: ‘python’: No such file or directory' > I can see there's no env in bin. > Does anyone know how to fix this please? > I have searched online but the solutions aren't relevant to the current > Gimp version/Linux. > > > > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[ubuntu-studio-users] Next Gimp issue - no python
So I did a clean install and Gimp now loads and works mostly OK. The issue now is it can't find python. I know this has been an issue with Gimp on Linux previously and it could be solved by 'sudo apt install gimp-python', but this doesn't work. Output from terminal '/usr/bin/env: ‘python’: No such file or directory' I can see there's no env in bin. Does anyone know how to fix this please? I have searched online but the solutions aren't relevant to the current Gimp version/Linux. -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Upgrade Issues
Lesson learned, I won't do it again I had planned to purge the ppa anyway, downloading US 20.04 iso at the mo. Not using Otto's ppa is important information, I wish I knew sooner. Thanks again On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 22:29, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: > Hi Babsky, > > I don't know how to stress this enough: NEVER use Otto's PPA. It is > known to cause breakage and needless bug reports against the Ubuntu > package. I have had to fight against that PPA for the past two years. > People are breaking their systems by using that PPA, and you're one > example. DO. NOT. USE. IT. > > Something that might work is installing "ppa-purge" and typing "sudo > ppa-purge ppa:otto-kesselgulasch > <https://launchpad.net/~otto-kesselgulasch>/gimp-stable" to get back to > the repo version. If that doesn't work, then clean install, and DON'T > ADD THAT PPA! > > -Erich > > > > On 5/9/20 2:17 PM, BabsKy wrote: > >> Hi Erich, thanks for the quick reply. > >> I do use Otto's ppa but his last build failed so there hasn't been a > >> Gimp update since 2.10.14, which was quite a while ago. Unfortunately > >> there aren't many options for Linux/Gimp users, I want to avoid > >> snap/flatpak/appimage versions of anything though I will use an > >> appimage for testing (to see if I like it or if it works better than > >> current version kind of testing). > >> So I'm guessing there's no repair option for US? I did a backup > >> recently but will run again just to be sure and clean install > >> Thank you > >> > >> On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 21:22, Erich Eickmeyer >> <mailto:eeickme...@ubuntu.com>> wrote: > >> > >> Hi BabsKy, > >> > >> On 5/9/20 1:15 PM, BabsKy wrote: > >>> Hello all, so I upgraded from 19.10 to 20.04 today. I waited to > >>> be notified of the upgrade, I didn't upgrade manually. > >>> The upgrade went well, no issues, but now I'm in a mess. > >>> One of my most used applications is Gimp. When I tried to open > >>> it I got an error > >>> image.png > >>> > >>> There are a few other issues and I'm sure I'll find more but > >>> this is my main issue. > >>> There was an update for GEGL after the upgrade but that wasn't > >>> v0.4.22. > >>> Is there an easy way to fix this or is there any way to repair a > >>> US installation? > >>> I'd rather fix all the issues at the same time if possible. > >>> > >>> Thank you > >> > >> This can happen if you have installed GIMP from an unsupported > >> source, such as a PPA. A quick glance at the > >> https://launchpad.net/~otto-kesselgulaschrepositories, which are > >> the common ones for installing GIMP from unsupported sources, > >> shows a version number of GEGL that overrides the newer package > >> in Ubuntu but is, in fact, older. > >> > >> Basically, what you have is an unsupported configuration that > >> caused this. I recommend backing-up your home directory and a > >> clean install at this point. > >> > >> Erich > >> > >> Erich Eickmeyer > >> Project Leader > >> Ubuntu Studio > >> > >> ubuntustudio.org <http://ubuntustudio.org> > >> > > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[ubuntu-studio-users] Upgrade Issues
Hello all, so I upgraded from 19.10 to 20.04 today. I waited to be notified of the upgrade, I didn't upgrade manually. The upgrade went well, no issues, but now I'm in a mess. One of my most used applications is Gimp. When I tried to open it I got an error [image: image.png] There are a few other issues and I'm sure I'll find more but this is my main issue. There was an update for GEGL after the upgrade but that wasn't v0.4.22. Is there an easy way to fix this or is there any way to repair a US installation? I'd rather fix all the issues at the same time if possible. Thank you -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10
Thank you, it seems to be working, upgrade in progress now On Sun, 27 Oct 2019, 13:54 Mac, wrote: > I usually just "sudo apt install ". That usually fixes > the hold. > > Then do update/upgrade again for good measure. Then start the system > upgrade with apt. > > Of course you could, probably, apt uninstall the held package as well. > > Disclaimer: I'm not an expert, this is just my experience...YMMV > > On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 9:32 AM BabsKy wrote: > >> I'm having problems upgrading, I'm getting the message "Please install >> all available updates for your release before upgrading.". >> I can see that calf-plugins is kept back but have no other updates. I've >> run sudo apt-mark unhold calf-plugins but get "calf-plugins was already not >> hold", then if I try to upgrade again I get the message "Please install all >> available updates for your release before upgrading." again. >> I've tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade. >> I don't know what else to try, please help! >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-studio-users mailing list >> ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users >> > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[ubuntu-studio-users] Upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10
I'm having problems upgrading, I'm getting the message "Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading.". I can see that calf-plugins is kept back but have no other updates. I've run sudo apt-mark unhold calf-plugins but get "calf-plugins was already not hold", then if I try to upgrade again I get the message "Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading." again. I've tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade. I don't know what else to try, please help! -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Panel disappeared
I fixed it. I had to right click on the desktop (had to do that to open anything anyway) Opened settings - Applications>Settings Manager Open 'Panel' settings At this point I could now see the panel but it was not quite at the top of the screen, so I grabbed it on the far left edge and dragged it to the top. Now it's as it should be. On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 18:36, BabsKy wrote: > Hi, I'm using Ubuntu Studio 19.04, after an Ubuntu Studio base update > yesterday my panel has completely disappeared and nothing I do will bring > it back! > > I've tried resetting the panel with > xfce4-panel -r > > reinstalling the Panel with > sudo apt install --reinstall xfce4-panel > > then I tried > rm -r ~/.cache > sudo reboot > > still nothing! > Any ideas how to get it back please? > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[ubuntu-studio-users] Panel disappeared
Hi, I'm using Ubuntu Studio 19.04, after an Ubuntu Studio base update yesterday my panel has completely disappeared and nothing I do will bring it back! I've tried resetting the panel with xfce4-panel -r reinstalling the Panel with sudo apt install --reinstall xfce4-panel then I tried rm -r ~/.cache sudo reboot still nothing! Any ideas how to get it back please? -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
