Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntustudio-controls won't start

2015-03-17 Thread Mike Holstein
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Set Hallström  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Ralf Mardorf 
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:33:10 +0100, Set Hallström wrote:
>> >Could anyone explain to me what these controls are used for?
>>
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioControls
>>
>> JFTR adding a nice value to real-time settings in limits.conf is
>> useless. Real-time ignores nice settings.
>>
>>
> Thank you very much for your precious help, Ralf.
>
> wellthat was an outdated page
>
> I'm unsure how much i need to bother about these controls? I should
> perhaps keep that energy and invest it in the community... but how?
>

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/

we dont even have the infrastructure in place to assist you in where and
how to help, but, ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu, and helping anywhere upstream,
such as debian, is relevant assistance. also, any documentation, since, as
you have noticed, many things are changing upstream, and the wikis get
outdated easily.

as far as "controls", for you, as an end user, i say, just use the
operating system "as-is" and address issues as you have them. if you are
trying to address latency, and lowering it, thats something we can work
with you on. cheers!

holstein


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntustudio-controls won't start

2015-03-17 Thread Set Hallström
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Ralf Mardorf 
wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:33:10 +0100, Set Hallström wrote:
> >Could anyone explain to me what these controls are used for?
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioControls
>
> JFTR adding a nice value to real-time settings in limits.conf is
> useless. Real-time ignores nice settings.
>
>
Thank you very much for your precious help, Ralf.

wellthat was an outdated page

I'm unsure how much i need to bother about these controls? I should perhaps
keep that energy and invest it in the community... but how?

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntustudio-controls won't start

2015-03-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:33:10 +0100, Set Hallström wrote:
>Could anyone explain to me what these controls are used for?

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioControls

JFTR adding a nice value to real-time settings in limits.conf is
useless. Real-time ignores nice settings.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntustudio-controls won't start

2015-03-17 Thread Set Hallström
Thanks for your insights, Ralf :)

I remembered that i had a look in the ubuntustudio-controls way back, on
11.10 maybe... and that there was some settings for firewire. The machine
mentioned in OP where the controls wouldn't start, is a fresh install of
14.04. A test/office Machine with no firewire.

Today i started my production machine, which has been upgraded from 13.04.
(yeah... i know its not the best maybe...but it operates fine) This machine
has a firewire card with a terratec phase88 rack running with ffado. It's
operating perfectly. But there are no ubuntustudio-controls to be found on
this machine?

I'm confused about this. Could anyone explain to me what these controls are
used for? Is this something deprecated that has found its way back?

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntustudio-controls won't start

2015-03-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 11:16:35 +0100, Set Hallstrom wrote:
>On 2015-03-16 11:10, Ralf Mardorf wrote:  
>> Anyway, distros that by default come
>> without a root account should prefer "gksudo" over "gksu". Likely
>> somebody planed to switch to "pkexec" for the menu entry and has
>> forgotten to do it. Is gpared in the menu? If so, what happens if you
>> start gparted? Watching the menu entries with Alacarte or another
>> menu editor might be interesting. Is "gksu" used for all entries,
>> that need root privileges?  
>
>I thought gksu was the same as gksudo...  

Hi Set,

at least kdesu can be configured to use sudo instead of su and IIUC
what man gksu mentions, then by gconf the same can be done for gksu.

$ cat .jwmrc-jwmpanel | less


  
  

I commented lxpolkit out. On my machine everything needed to use gksudo
is running anyway, but for usage of pkexec there seems to be the need to
start an additional authentication agent.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntustudio-controls won't start

2015-03-16 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2015-03-16 11:10, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Anyway, distros that by default come
> without a root account should prefer "gksudo" over "gksu". Likely
> somebody planed to switch to "pkexec" for the menu entry and has
> forgotten to do it. Is gpared in the menu? If so, what happens if you
> start gparted? Watching the menu entries with Alacarte or another menu
> editor might be interesting. Is "gksu" used for all entries, that need
> root privileges?
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf
> 

Thank you Ralf!
I thought gksu was the same as gksudo... none of them seem to be
installed. But yes, gparted starts and ask me for the root pass, in a
way i would identify as gksudo does, minus the greyed-out background...
but after checking it seems i have pkexec installed. so i'm guessing the
ubuntustudio-controls haven't been adjusted to the change?

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntustudio-controls won't start

2015-03-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:39:40 +0100, Set Hallstrom wrote:
>> Failed to execute command "gksu ubuntustudio-controls".
>> Failed to execute child process "gksu" (No such file or directory)  
>
>While I'm unsure what the ubuntustudio-controls are actually doing and
>aware how easy it is to install gksu, i wonder if it should be this
>way?  

;)

Nowadays it's more common to use "pkexec" instead of "gksu{do}". I
still prefer using "gksudo". Anyway, distros that by default come
without a root account should prefer "gksudo" over "gksu". Likely
somebody planed to switch to "pkexec" for the menu entry and has
forgotten to do it. Is gpared in the menu? If so, what happens if you
start gparted? Watching the menu entries with Alacarte or another menu
editor might be interesting. Is "gksu" used for all entries, that need
root privileges?

Regards,
Ralf

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[ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntustudio-controls won't start

2015-03-16 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi,

I tried to run the ubuntustudio-controls today on my 14.04 box, and got
the following error message:

> Failed to execute command "gksu ubuntustudio-controls".
> Failed to execute child process "gksu" (No such file or directory)

While I'm unsure what the ubuntustudio-controls are actually doing and
aware how easy it is to install gksu, i wonder if it should be this way?

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