Re: Poll
So far I have had no trouble with Ubuntu 12.10 Studio 64bit quite nice.. For standard use I have 12.04 LTS 32bit and have been useing it for quite awhile.. For Music tho.. the studio would be best.. and there is no 'plug and play' for that to be done anywhere... On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Hartmut Noack wrote: > Am 30.01.2013 02:53, schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtrwZ7irPN7TdGdNUUltUzZ2ZGpqa2RZdmtZRllIM1E#gid=0 > > > > > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2013-January/089753.html > > > > My vote is "Ubuntu Studio 12.04 LTS, Ubuntu 12.12", the later is a typo > > and should be 12.10 ;). It seems to be, that Ubuntu/Ubuntu Studio users > > prefer the LTS, so do I. > > I voted for Ubuntu12.10 + KXStudio > > It works so perfectly well for me, that I doubted, that qjackctl failed > to catch xruns after the upgrade from 12.04 -- it does not, there simply > are no xruns anymore... > > > > > For me it's reasonable that so many people use Arch Linux. I only > > dropped it (perhaps temporarily), regarding to the transition to > > systemd. > > > > FWIW, the release model is discussed in the Xubuntu mailing list. > > > > Regards, > > Ralf > > > > > > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Poll
Am 30.01.2013 02:53, schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtrwZ7irPN7TdGdNUUltUzZ2ZGpqa2RZdmtZRllIM1E#gid=0 > > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2013-January/089753.html > > My vote is "Ubuntu Studio 12.04 LTS, Ubuntu 12.12", the later is a typo > and should be 12.10 ;). It seems to be, that Ubuntu/Ubuntu Studio users > prefer the LTS, so do I. I voted for Ubuntu12.10 + KXStudio It works so perfectly well for me, that I doubted, that qjackctl failed to catch xruns after the upgrade from 12.04 -- it does not, there simply are no xruns anymore... > > For me it's reasonable that so many people use Arch Linux. I only > dropped it (perhaps temporarily), regarding to the transition to > systemd. > > FWIW, the release model is discussed in the Xubuntu mailing list. > > Regards, > Ralf > > -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Poll
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtrwZ7irPN7TdGdNUUltUzZ2ZGpqa2RZdmtZRllIM1E#gid=0 http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2013-January/089753.html My vote is "Ubuntu Studio 12.04 LTS, Ubuntu 12.12", the later is a typo and should be 12.10 ;). It seems to be, that Ubuntu/Ubuntu Studio users prefer the LTS, so do I. For me it's reasonable that so many people use Arch Linux. I only dropped it (perhaps temporarily), regarding to the transition to systemd. FWIW, the release model is discussed in the Xubuntu mailing list. Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [Fwd: [Poll] Changing permissions on raw1394]
Hi, Andrew. I don't know if it would be the case to deal with what I'm going to write about in this app your are developing. If it isn't, please just ignore this post. My trouble is to set jack to accept the 4 outs my Audigy soundcard has as independent channels. I've been trying to do so since I first started using Linux with Demudi about 2 years ago with no luck. Alsa recongnizes and adresses them correctly (with speaker test and alsa mixer), but I can't make it with jack nor with pd. I found some changes to be done at the .asoundrc file at the Alsa unofficial wiki, but that didn't work either. I've been doing the best I can, but being a musician and not a computer programmer, it's been quite a tough time trying to unveil all these magic spells to configure things by hand. I'd really apreciate it if this could be done in a more intuitive way. Or maybe I just should start saving money for another soundcard. :^) Thanks anyway. Best regards, Pietro Andrew Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: I seem to have sent this message only to the -devel list, so here it is. :) Original Message Subject: [Poll] Changing permissions on raw1394 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:13:40 + From: Andrew Hunter Reply-To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion , Ubuntu Studio Development & Technical Discussion Hey everyone! If you have not heard about it already, the Ubuntu Studio team is looking at creating an app that would easily allow users to change common settings that they may be currently editing by hand.[1] One of the features that we are considering is changing the permissions on raw1394 /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules from disk to audio or video. This is a necessary change currently to enable firewire based devices to work as a regular user, such as firewire sound cards and video cameras. The other alternative solution is to add the user to group "disk", though this may also cause problems. The issue with this is that it creates a rather large security risk for the system, in that any device on the firewire bus can run with root privileges. This risk is less of an issue for stand-alone machines that do not use Ethernet over firewire, but is still something to consider. I would like to stress that it _will not_ be changed by default. All that we are considering is providing a more accessible way to modify those settings. In the future, when Ubuntu and by extension Ubuntu Studio move to the new firewire stack in the kernel, this issue will be an non-issue. The new kernel stack provides much finer granularity and control over permissions on specific devices. The question then I am posing to you guys is this: How many of you already change this setting by hand? Thanks, Andrew [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2007-November/95.html -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users - Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o único sem limite de espaço para armazenamento! -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [Fwd: [Poll] Changing permissions on raw1394]
Hartmut Noack wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Andrew Hunter schrieb: > >> One of the features that we are considering is changing the permissions >> on raw1394 /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules from disk to audio or >> video. This is a necessary change currently to enable firewire based >> devices to work as a regular user, such as firewire sound cards and >> video cameras. > > Video cams also? Quite strange - I can download easily from a > mini-dv-cam whithout any hassle. First time I mentioned the > permission-issue was when I used a firewire-soundcard first. IIRC, it is needed to control the camera via firewire. > > > >> The other alternative solution is to add the user to group "disk", >> though this may also cause problems. > > I did this and do not have any problems right now - of course I do notdo > that on a server, it is my Laptop on wich I use the FW-card for mobile > recording. Seriously: I do not see a realworld useage-scenario, whre > adding the user to group disk could be a problem > > >> The issue with this is that it creates a rather large security risk for >> the system, in that any device on the firewire bus can run with root >> privileges. This risk is less of an issue for stand-alone machines that >> do not use Ethernet over firewire, > > I never saw a machine using firewire to connect to a network - USB yes > for stuff like Zaurus but FW? While uncommon, the support for Ethernet over firewire does exist. > >> I would like to stress that it _will not_ be changed by default. All >> that we are considering is providing a more accessible way to modify >> those settings. > > Very good idea: PLUS: such a tool should allow to set stuff like > max_user_freq and limits.conf also... If you have any suggestions for items that you are currently editing by hand, consider adding them to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/SettingsApp > > >> In the future, when Ubuntu and by extension Ubuntu Studio move to the >> new firewire stack in the kernel, this issue will be an non-issue. The >> new kernel stack provides much finer granularity and control over >> permissions on specific devices. >> >> The question then I am posing to you guys is this: How many of you >> already change this setting by hand? > > I did, be member of group disk now and it works quite OK for me... > > bg > hzn > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHTvRk1Aecwva1SWMRAgtQAJ98zfQiBVcNXocWDDFAHcKJp/41PgCffjAf > TnLNZrKMAKqiTNNGWT7mjFo= > =YwvP > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [Fwd: [Poll] Changing permissions on raw1394]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Hunter schrieb: > One of the features that we are considering is changing the permissions > on raw1394 /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules from disk to audio or > video. This is a necessary change currently to enable firewire based > devices to work as a regular user, such as firewire sound cards and > video cameras. Video cams also? Quite strange - I can download easily from a mini-dv-cam whithout any hassle. First time I mentioned the permission-issue was when I used a firewire-soundcard first. > The other alternative solution is to add the user to group "disk", > though this may also cause problems. I did this and do not have any problems right now - of course I do notdo that on a server, it is my Laptop on wich I use the FW-card for mobile recording. Seriously: I do not see a realworld useage-scenario, whre adding the user to group disk could be a problem > The issue with this is that it creates a rather large security risk for > the system, in that any device on the firewire bus can run with root > privileges. This risk is less of an issue for stand-alone machines that > do not use Ethernet over firewire, I never saw a machine using firewire to connect to a network - USB yes for stuff like Zaurus but FW? > I would like to stress that it _will not_ be changed by default. All > that we are considering is providing a more accessible way to modify > those settings. Very good idea: PLUS: such a tool should allow to set stuff like max_user_freq and limits.conf also... > In the future, when Ubuntu and by extension Ubuntu Studio move to the > new firewire stack in the kernel, this issue will be an non-issue. The > new kernel stack provides much finer granularity and control over > permissions on specific devices. > > The question then I am posing to you guys is this: How many of you > already change this setting by hand? I did, be member of group disk now and it works quite OK for me... bg hzn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHTvRk1Aecwva1SWMRAgtQAJ98zfQiBVcNXocWDDFAHcKJp/41PgCffjAf TnLNZrKMAKqiTNNGWT7mjFo= =YwvP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[Fwd: [Poll] Changing permissions on raw1394]
I seem to have sent this message only to the -devel list, so here it is. :) Original Message Subject: [Poll] Changing permissions on raw1394 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:13:40 + From: Andrew Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion , Ubuntu Studio Development & Technical Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey everyone! If you have not heard about it already, the Ubuntu Studio team is looking at creating an app that would easily allow users to change common settings that they may be currently editing by hand.[1] One of the features that we are considering is changing the permissions on raw1394 /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules from disk to audio or video. This is a necessary change currently to enable firewire based devices to work as a regular user, such as firewire sound cards and video cameras. The other alternative solution is to add the user to group "disk", though this may also cause problems. The issue with this is that it creates a rather large security risk for the system, in that any device on the firewire bus can run with root privileges. This risk is less of an issue for stand-alone machines that do not use Ethernet over firewire, but is still something to consider. I would like to stress that it _will not_ be changed by default. All that we are considering is providing a more accessible way to modify those settings. In the future, when Ubuntu and by extension Ubuntu Studio move to the new firewire stack in the kernel, this issue will be an non-issue. The new kernel stack provides much finer granularity and control over permissions on specific devices. The question then I am posing to you guys is this: How many of you already change this setting by hand? Thanks, Andrew [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2007-November/95.html -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [Poll] Changing permissions on raw1394
Andrew Hunter a écrit : > Hey everyone! > > If you have not heard about it already, the Ubuntu Studio team is > looking at creating an app that would easily allow users to change > common settings that they may be currently editing by hand.[1] > > One of the features that we are considering is changing the permissions > on raw1394 /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules from disk to audio or > video. This is a necessary change currently to enable firewire based > devices to work as a regular user, such as firewire sound cards and > video cameras. > > The other alternative solution is to add the user to group "disk", > though this may also cause problems. > > The issue with this is that it creates a rather large security risk for > the system, in that any device on the firewire bus can run with root > privileges. This risk is less of an issue for stand-alone machines that > do not use Ethernet over firewire, but is still something to consider. > > I would like to stress that it _will not_ be changed by default. All > that we are considering is providing a more accessible way to modify > those settings. > > In the future, when Ubuntu and by extension Ubuntu Studio move to the > new firewire stack in the kernel, this issue will be an non-issue. The > new kernel stack provides much finer granularity and control over > permissions on specific devices. > > The question then I am posing to you guys is this: How many of you > already change this setting by hand? Hi, Laurent from France, on my 2 computers, i'd done it each time by hand with a 1394 pcmcia card Pinnacle + video camera Canon MV10 or standard pci/1394 and the same video camera. Many friends have to do the same by hand Laurent -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[Poll] Changing permissions on raw1394
Hey everyone! If you have not heard about it already, the Ubuntu Studio team is looking at creating an app that would easily allow users to change common settings that they may be currently editing by hand.[1] One of the features that we are considering is changing the permissions on raw1394 /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules from disk to audio or video. This is a necessary change currently to enable firewire based devices to work as a regular user, such as firewire sound cards and video cameras. The other alternative solution is to add the user to group "disk", though this may also cause problems. The issue with this is that it creates a rather large security risk for the system, in that any device on the firewire bus can run with root privileges. This risk is less of an issue for stand-alone machines that do not use Ethernet over firewire, but is still something to consider. I would like to stress that it _will not_ be changed by default. All that we are considering is providing a more accessible way to modify those settings. In the future, when Ubuntu and by extension Ubuntu Studio move to the new firewire stack in the kernel, this issue will be an non-issue. The new kernel stack provides much finer granularity and control over permissions on specific devices. The question then I am posing to you guys is this: How many of you already change this setting by hand? Thanks, Andrew [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2007-November/95.html -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
