Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Problem with Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop after installing 20.04
Update: I fixed the sound issue, by this: Edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf as root and add options snd-hda-intel dmic_detect=0 at the end of this file. https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/06/fix-no-sound-dummy-output-issue-in.html On 27/10/2020 16:46, David King wrote: Despite the Kubuntu installer saying it failed, I was able to boot into Kubuntu. It is using the nouveau driver and so far seems to work without freezing for at least 1 hour. However, currently I have no sound. David On 21/10/2020 16:47, David King wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, I'll download Kubuntu and try that. David On 21/10/2020 06:59, Dave in Dalek Zone wrote: I also have an Asus gaming laptop with an Nvidia Geforce graphic card, and use Kubuntu without problem, with either the proprietary Nvidia driver or the Xorg driver. Maybe you could try installing Kubuntu and then installing the Ubuntu Studio Desktop? That works fine for me. HTH. --- With all best wishes, Dave On 2020-10-20 23:19, David King wrote: It was originally using the Xorg nouveau driver but as it had problems I switched to the Nvidia, and I have the same problems. David On 20/10/2020 15:33, Mike Squires wrote: A data point: I'm using an HP Envy 17 laptop, older Intel i7 processor, and according to the "Software & Updates" panel I'm using the X.Org X server with the Noveau display driver. Nvidia hardware is "GeForce 940M". No problems. I'm not doing anything really complex, the usual home stuff but no gaming (D using VTT and discord, but nothing very taxing to the system). Installation was from the DVD, nothing other than the usual items asked for during the installation. Mike Squires On 10/19/20 4:19 PM, David King wrote: I bought an Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop, with Intel Core i5 CPU and Nvidia GPU. It came with Windows 10. I booted from USB to live Ubuntu Studio 20.04 and installed it after repartitioning. I can boot into Ubuntu Studio, but after a few minutes, everything except the mouse freezes. I can move the mouse around, but not click on anything, not drag anything. Key presses do nothing. I could press CTRL ALT F1 for a terminal and do things there, but since I updated the kernel to 5.8.0-23-lowlatency, even that no longer works after booting. I would really like to get Ubuntu Studio working on this laptop, as Windows 10 sucks. I can revert it all back to just Windows 10 if necessary, but would rather use Linux. Any ideas on what is wrong? Some websites suggest the graphics driver. I have the Nvidia proprietary driver installed and selected, originally the Xorg-nouveau driver was in use, but I removed this as some say it is buggy. David -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Problem with Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop after installing 20.04
Despite the Kubuntu installer saying it failed, I was able to boot into Kubuntu. It is using the nouveau driver and so far seems to work without freezing for at least 1 hour. However, currently I have no sound. David On 21/10/2020 16:47, David King wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, I'll download Kubuntu and try that. David On 21/10/2020 06:59, Dave in Dalek Zone wrote: I also have an Asus gaming laptop with an Nvidia Geforce graphic card, and use Kubuntu without problem, with either the proprietary Nvidia driver or the Xorg driver. Maybe you could try installing Kubuntu and then installing the Ubuntu Studio Desktop? That works fine for me. HTH. --- With all best wishes, Dave On 2020-10-20 23:19, David King wrote: It was originally using the Xorg nouveau driver but as it had problems I switched to the Nvidia, and I have the same problems. David On 20/10/2020 15:33, Mike Squires wrote: A data point: I'm using an HP Envy 17 laptop, older Intel i7 processor, and according to the "Software & Updates" panel I'm using the X.Org X server with the Noveau display driver. Nvidia hardware is "GeForce 940M". No problems. I'm not doing anything really complex, the usual home stuff but no gaming (D using VTT and discord, but nothing very taxing to the system). Installation was from the DVD, nothing other than the usual items asked for during the installation. Mike Squires On 10/19/20 4:19 PM, David King wrote: I bought an Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop, with Intel Core i5 CPU and Nvidia GPU. It came with Windows 10. I booted from USB to live Ubuntu Studio 20.04 and installed it after repartitioning. I can boot into Ubuntu Studio, but after a few minutes, everything except the mouse freezes. I can move the mouse around, but not click on anything, not drag anything. Key presses do nothing. I could press CTRL ALT F1 for a terminal and do things there, but since I updated the kernel to 5.8.0-23-lowlatency, even that no longer works after booting. I would really like to get Ubuntu Studio working on this laptop, as Windows 10 sucks. I can revert it all back to just Windows 10 if necessary, but would rather use Linux. Any ideas on what is wrong? Some websites suggest the graphics driver. I have the Nvidia proprietary driver installed and selected, originally the Xorg-nouveau driver was in use, but I removed this as some say it is buggy. David -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Problem with Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop after installing 20.04
Thanks for your reply. There are two reviewers on Amazon who bought the laptop who got Ubuntu 20.04 working, so I thought I could also do so. It is possible in theory, I think. David On 26/10/2020 21:30, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: David, On 10/26/20 2:20 PM, David King wrote: Actually in Ubuntu Mate, audio appeared to be working as in no notification of it not working, until I tried to use it and there was no sound. [snip] Based on all of this troubleshooting, I think you have stumbled onto the plague of Linux users everywhere: incompatible hardware. Not all hardware is guaranteed to work on Linux. In fact, there is a *lot* out there that is designed specifically to run Windows and does not work on Linux, no matter how hard you try. And seeing as how you have had no response in this email list with anything, I think it should confirm to you that your hardware just plain does not work on Linux. That might be a tough pill to swallow but it might very well be the truth, and you might need to consider that. I'm sorry I can't be of any help, but we're seeing more and more of this type of dilemma lately where hardware manufacturers, while they might otherwise manufacture Linux-compatible hardware, do still have a certain target audience, especially with so-called Gaming laptops: Windows gamers. So, keep that in mind. Many "gaming" laptops out there aren't Linux-compatible. It's a tough truth, but it's the truth. -- Erich Eickmeyer Project Leader Ubuntu Studio Council Member Ubuntu Community Council -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Problem with Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop after installing 20.04
See below On 10/26/20 5:30 PM, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: So, keep that in mind. Many "gaming" laptops out there aren't Linux-compatible. It's a tough truth, but it's the truth. -- Erich Eickmeyer Project Leader Ubuntu Studio Council Member Ubuntu Community Council I ran into this with FreeBSD. It apparently is common for PC board manaufacturers to request minor changes in third party hardware, or for the third party hardware makers to do so. This was done in a couple of cases where the hardware was supposed to work with FreeBSD and the hardware was listed during boot as being a supported piece of hardware, but it didn't work. In both cases one particular implementation of the hardware had a very minor change that had no impact, apparently, for MS Windows users but which stopped the hardware from working under FreeBSD. In both cases I was able to work with the group maintaining that piece of hardware and eventually getting a patch to the kernel that fixed the problem. I personally have tried to buy laptops particularly that the manufacturer supported LINUX. I've also learned not to buy the latest hardware since without manufacturer support the various BSD/LINUX implementations may take some time, if ever, to support new hardware or new versions of older hardware. The problems I've had with Ubuntu have not been with Studio but with code maintained upstream. This is different from my experience with (a long time ago) SCO UN*X and FreeBSD and it took me a bit to learn that. My primary workstation is an older Supermicro X7DAE motherboard, dual Xeon quad core, which at one point didn't like the low-latency kernel mods but upstream changes contained in v19 and V20 have solved that problem. My music room runs off a Dell T3600 which uses a single Xeon quad core, the nVidia card and LSI raid controller shipped with the unit, and a Presonus 24c USB sound inteface, all working well. My laptops are a HP Envy 17T, Intel i7, and a Dell Inspiron 5758, both of which run fine under Ubuntu Studio. The X7DAE is working well with a Radeon 7000 video card paired with an old M-Audio PCI card; the older nVidia display controller in the 17T is recognized and the "nouveau" driver is installed and works. None of this offers state-of-the-art game performance (my gaming is restricted to participating in an on-line D game and a lot of years as an SCA armored combat participant) but it all seems to work well under Ubuntu Studio. Michael L. Squires, Ph.D., M.P.A. 546 North Park Ridge Road Bloomington, IN 47408 Known in the SCA as Alan Culross, KSCA, OP, etc. "Michael Leslie Squires" on FB Home phone: 812-333-6564 Cell phone: 812-369-5232 www.siralan.org (personal) or www.smithgreensound.com (PA) UN*X at home since 1985 -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Problem with Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop after installing 20.04
David, On 10/26/20 2:20 PM, David King wrote: Actually in Ubuntu Mate, audio appeared to be working as in no notification of it not working, until I tried to use it and there was no sound. [snip] Based on all of this troubleshooting, I think you have stumbled onto the plague of Linux users everywhere: incompatible hardware. Not all hardware is guaranteed to work on Linux. In fact, there is a *lot* out there that is designed specifically to run Windows and does not work on Linux, no matter how hard you try. And seeing as how you have had no response in this email list with anything, I think it should confirm to you that your hardware just plain does not work on Linux. That might be a tough pill to swallow but it might very well be the truth, and you might need to consider that. I'm sorry I can't be of any help, but we're seeing more and more of this type of dilemma lately where hardware manufacturers, while they might otherwise manufacture Linux-compatible hardware, do still have a certain target audience, especially with so-called Gaming laptops: Windows gamers. So, keep that in mind. Many "gaming" laptops out there aren't Linux-compatible. It's a tough truth, but it's the truth. -- Erich Eickmeyer Project Leader Ubuntu Studio Council Member Ubuntu Community Council -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Problem with Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop after installing 20.04
Actually in Ubuntu Mate, audio appeared to be working as in no notification of it not working, until I tried to use it and there was no sound. David On 26/10/2020 21:17, David King wrote: I have tried booting with Kubuntu 20.04 from a USB flash drive, but on its default boot option, it gets stuck on the Kubuntu logo. I tried the safe graphics mode, and it booted but there was no sound hardware detected. I also tried booting into Linux Mint 20, the default did not boot, and with the safe graphics mode I could not get the trackpad to work. With Ubuntu Mate 20.04 it will only boot from the safe graphics mode, although both audio and trackpad are working. But display is very low res, as per all linuxes without proper drivers. David On 21/10/2020 16:47, David King wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, I'll download Kubuntu and try that. David On 21/10/2020 06:59, Dave in Dalek Zone wrote: I also have an Asus gaming laptop with an Nvidia Geforce graphic card, and use Kubuntu without problem, with either the proprietary Nvidia driver or the Xorg driver. Maybe you could try installing Kubuntu and then installing the Ubuntu Studio Desktop? That works fine for me. HTH. --- With all best wishes, Dave On 2020-10-20 23:19, David King wrote: It was originally using the Xorg nouveau driver but as it had problems I switched to the Nvidia, and I have the same problems. David On 20/10/2020 15:33, Mike Squires wrote: A data point: I'm using an HP Envy 17 laptop, older Intel i7 processor, and according to the "Software & Updates" panel I'm using the X.Org X server with the Noveau display driver. Nvidia hardware is "GeForce 940M". No problems. I'm not doing anything really complex, the usual home stuff but no gaming (D using VTT and discord, but nothing very taxing to the system). Installation was from the DVD, nothing other than the usual items asked for during the installation. Mike Squires On 10/19/20 4:19 PM, David King wrote: I bought an Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop, with Intel Core i5 CPU and Nvidia GPU. It came with Windows 10. I booted from USB to live Ubuntu Studio 20.04 and installed it after repartitioning. I can boot into Ubuntu Studio, but after a few minutes, everything except the mouse freezes. I can move the mouse around, but not click on anything, not drag anything. Key presses do nothing. I could press CTRL ALT F1 for a terminal and do things there, but since I updated the kernel to 5.8.0-23-lowlatency, even that no longer works after booting. I would really like to get Ubuntu Studio working on this laptop, as Windows 10 sucks. I can revert it all back to just Windows 10 if necessary, but would rather use Linux. Any ideas on what is wrong? Some websites suggest the graphics driver. I have the Nvidia proprietary driver installed and selected, originally the Xorg-nouveau driver was in use, but I removed this as some say it is buggy. David -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Problem with Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop after installing 20.04
I have tried booting with Kubuntu 20.04 from a USB flash drive, but on its default boot option, it gets stuck on the Kubuntu logo. I tried the safe graphics mode, and it booted but there was no sound hardware detected. I also tried booting into Linux Mint 20, the default did not boot, and with the safe graphics mode I could not get the trackpad to work. With Ubuntu Mate 20.04 it will only boot from the safe graphics mode, although both audio and trackpad are working. But display is very low res, as per all linuxes without proper drivers. David On 21/10/2020 16:47, David King wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, I'll download Kubuntu and try that. David On 21/10/2020 06:59, Dave in Dalek Zone wrote: I also have an Asus gaming laptop with an Nvidia Geforce graphic card, and use Kubuntu without problem, with either the proprietary Nvidia driver or the Xorg driver. Maybe you could try installing Kubuntu and then installing the Ubuntu Studio Desktop? That works fine for me. HTH. --- With all best wishes, Dave On 2020-10-20 23:19, David King wrote: It was originally using the Xorg nouveau driver but as it had problems I switched to the Nvidia, and I have the same problems. David On 20/10/2020 15:33, Mike Squires wrote: A data point: I'm using an HP Envy 17 laptop, older Intel i7 processor, and according to the "Software & Updates" panel I'm using the X.Org X server with the Noveau display driver. Nvidia hardware is "GeForce 940M". No problems. I'm not doing anything really complex, the usual home stuff but no gaming (D using VTT and discord, but nothing very taxing to the system). Installation was from the DVD, nothing other than the usual items asked for during the installation. Mike Squires On 10/19/20 4:19 PM, David King wrote: I bought an Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop, with Intel Core i5 CPU and Nvidia GPU. It came with Windows 10. I booted from USB to live Ubuntu Studio 20.04 and installed it after repartitioning. I can boot into Ubuntu Studio, but after a few minutes, everything except the mouse freezes. I can move the mouse around, but not click on anything, not drag anything. Key presses do nothing. I could press CTRL ALT F1 for a terminal and do things there, but since I updated the kernel to 5.8.0-23-lowlatency, even that no longer works after booting. I would really like to get Ubuntu Studio working on this laptop, as Windows 10 sucks. I can revert it all back to just Windows 10 if necessary, but would rather use Linux. Any ideas on what is wrong? Some websites suggest the graphics driver. I have the Nvidia proprietary driver installed and selected, originally the Xorg-nouveau driver was in use, but I removed this as some say it is buggy. David -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Problem with Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop after installing 20.04
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll download Kubuntu and try that. David On 21/10/2020 06:59, Dave in Dalek Zone wrote: I also have an Asus gaming laptop with an Nvidia Geforce graphic card, and use Kubuntu without problem, with either the proprietary Nvidia driver or the Xorg driver. Maybe you could try installing Kubuntu and then installing the Ubuntu Studio Desktop? That works fine for me. HTH. --- With all best wishes, Dave On 2020-10-20 23:19, David King wrote: It was originally using the Xorg nouveau driver but as it had problems I switched to the Nvidia, and I have the same problems. David On 20/10/2020 15:33, Mike Squires wrote: A data point: I'm using an HP Envy 17 laptop, older Intel i7 processor, and according to the "Software & Updates" panel I'm using the X.Org X server with the Noveau display driver. Nvidia hardware is "GeForce 940M". No problems. I'm not doing anything really complex, the usual home stuff but no gaming (D using VTT and discord, but nothing very taxing to the system). Installation was from the DVD, nothing other than the usual items asked for during the installation. Mike Squires On 10/19/20 4:19 PM, David King wrote: I bought an Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop, with Intel Core i5 CPU and Nvidia GPU. It came with Windows 10. I booted from USB to live Ubuntu Studio 20.04 and installed it after repartitioning. I can boot into Ubuntu Studio, but after a few minutes, everything except the mouse freezes. I can move the mouse around, but not click on anything, not drag anything. Key presses do nothing. I could press CTRL ALT F1 for a terminal and do things there, but since I updated the kernel to 5.8.0-23-lowlatency, even that no longer works after booting. I would really like to get Ubuntu Studio working on this laptop, as Windows 10 sucks. I can revert it all back to just Windows 10 if necessary, but would rather use Linux. Any ideas on what is wrong? Some websites suggest the graphics driver. I have the Nvidia proprietary driver installed and selected, originally the Xorg-nouveau driver was in use, but I removed this as some say it is buggy. David -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Problem with Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop after installing 20.04
It seems like harddisk configuration problem if live was ok. I think it's not good idea installing linux on Win optimized laptop... (this is my personal theory, I am not programmer, i use Ubuntu studio since 8.04, but always as clean installation on my self building PCs, on my HP laptops are Win10). On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 22:21 David King wrote: > I bought an Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop, with Intel Core i5 CPU and > Nvidia GPU. > > It came with Windows 10. I booted from USB to live Ubuntu Studio 20.04 > and installed it after repartitioning. > > I can boot into Ubuntu Studio, but after a few minutes, everything > except the mouse freezes. I can move the mouse around, but not click on > anything, not drag anything. Key presses do nothing. I could press CTRL > ALT F1 for a terminal and do things there, but since I updated the > kernel to 5.8.0-23-lowlatency, even that no longer works after booting. > > I would really like to get Ubuntu Studio working on this laptop, as > Windows 10 sucks. I can revert it all back to just Windows 10 if > necessary, but would rather use Linux. > > Any ideas on what is wrong? > > Some websites suggest the graphics driver. I have the Nvidia proprietary > driver installed and selected, originally the Xorg-nouveau driver was in > use, but I removed this as some say it is buggy. > > > David > > > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Problem with Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop after installing 20.04
I also have an Asus gaming laptop with an Nvidia Geforce graphic card, and use Kubuntu without problem, with either the proprietary Nvidia driver or the Xorg driver. Maybe you could try installing Kubuntu and then installing the Ubuntu Studio Desktop? That works fine for me. HTH. --- With all best wishes, Dave On 2020-10-20 23:19, David King wrote: It was originally using the Xorg nouveau driver but as it had problems I switched to the Nvidia, and I have the same problems. David On 20/10/2020 15:33, Mike Squires wrote: A data point: I'm using an HP Envy 17 laptop, older Intel i7 processor, and according to the "Software & Updates" panel I'm using the X.Org X server with the Noveau display driver. Nvidia hardware is "GeForce 940M". No problems. I'm not doing anything really complex, the usual home stuff but no gaming (D using VTT and discord, but nothing very taxing to the system). Installation was from the DVD, nothing other than the usual items asked for during the installation. Mike Squires On 10/19/20 4:19 PM, David King wrote: I bought an Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop, with Intel Core i5 CPU and Nvidia GPU. It came with Windows 10. I booted from USB to live Ubuntu Studio 20.04 and installed it after repartitioning. I can boot into Ubuntu Studio, but after a few minutes, everything except the mouse freezes. I can move the mouse around, but not click on anything, not drag anything. Key presses do nothing. I could press CTRL ALT F1 for a terminal and do things there, but since I updated the kernel to 5.8.0-23-lowlatency, even that no longer works after booting. I would really like to get Ubuntu Studio working on this laptop, as Windows 10 sucks. I can revert it all back to just Windows 10 if necessary, but would rather use Linux. Any ideas on what is wrong? Some websites suggest the graphics driver. I have the Nvidia proprietary driver installed and selected, originally the Xorg-nouveau driver was in use, but I removed this as some say it is buggy. David 0xA4FB3059.asc Description: application/pgp-keys -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Problem with Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop after installing 20.04
A data point: I'm using an HP Envy 17 laptop, older Intel i7 processor, and according to the "Software & Updates" panel I'm using the X.Org X server with the Noveau display driver. Nvidia hardware is "GeForce 940M". No problems. I'm not doing anything really complex, the usual home stuff but no gaming (D using VTT and discord, but nothing very taxing to the system). Installation was from the DVD, nothing other than the usual items asked for during the installation. Mike Squires On 10/19/20 4:19 PM, David King wrote: I bought an Asus FX505 Tuf Gaming laptop, with Intel Core i5 CPU and Nvidia GPU. It came with Windows 10. I booted from USB to live Ubuntu Studio 20.04 and installed it after repartitioning. I can boot into Ubuntu Studio, but after a few minutes, everything except the mouse freezes. I can move the mouse around, but not click on anything, not drag anything. Key presses do nothing. I could press CTRL ALT F1 for a terminal and do things there, but since I updated the kernel to 5.8.0-23-lowlatency, even that no longer works after booting. I would really like to get Ubuntu Studio working on this laptop, as Windows 10 sucks. I can revert it all back to just Windows 10 if necessary, but would rather use Linux. Any ideas on what is wrong? Some websites suggest the graphics driver. I have the Nvidia proprietary driver installed and selected, originally the Xorg-nouveau driver was in use, but I removed this as some say it is buggy. David -- Michael L. Squires, Ph.D., M.P.A. michael.leslie.squi...@gmail.com "Michael Leslie Squries" on Facebook Known in the SCA as Alan Culross, KSCA, OP Web: www.siralan.org and www.smithgreensound.com 812-369-5232 (cell) 812-333-6564 (home) -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
