Re: Desktop change consequences
Beware of sudo, it gives you godlike powers... the best advice I can give: If you have the resources, set up two computers, one of them being your stable production/work/school machine, the other being your experimental setup. Try the new commands on the experimental machine, in case they don't work out like you hope. Once you're comfortable with them, use them on the production machine. Good luck! Ben On 04/10/2013 10:07 AM, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks, Andrew. You and Alf are elevating my self-confidence to dangerous levels. cheers On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Andrew Huys musiek.sparta...@gmail.com mailto:musiek.sparta...@gmail.com wrote: I get something from the repository I do not have to use synaptic to keep it up to date? If you use update-manager and have automatic updates turned on, no, you do not need to use synaptic for anything. However, Synaptic is /very/ useful when you're searching for packages to install and maybe don't know the names (if you dislike the software-center). Synaptic is faster on my older machines (IBM/Lenovo T43p, etc.) than software center, as it does not have fancy graphics, ratings, reviews, etc. Also, being able to install multiple items just by checking the boxes and clicking [apply] seems easier to me than finding each individual software in software center. As far as updating goes, I almost never use the update-manager (had an issue with it at one time, don't remember what, but stopped using it then), I find it easier to do via command-line: sudo apt-get update Sudo apt-get upgrade I run these about once a week (or whenever i remember) just to keep on top of things. -AND Huys On 04/10/2013 09:46 AM, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks, Alf. So, to make sure I understand you, if I get something from the repository I do not have to use synaptic to keep it up to date? Is Synaptic still useful in any scenario, or is it completely irrelevant/obsolete? On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.no mailto:a...@mellomrommet.no wrote: No, Nothing updates in the background, the update manager will always ask. It just means updates are not taken care of by canonical's Ubuntu team and that they may (or may not) be provided by the community. Kind of the same way Microsoft provides updates for IE but not for Firefox, although the example is a bit flawed as Microsoft won't let you download software they don't own through their channels. But that's the wonder of open source! Actually the software repositories is one of my favorites with Ubuntu. Finding and installing programs is so simple and updates automatically taken care of (if there are any). Alf On 10. april 2013 14:52, Pete Wright wrote: Really? Updating automatic? I knew Ubuntu updates automatically, but many items in the Software Centre say Updates not provided by Ubuntu...may be provided by community or something like that. Are these packages/programs automagically updating themselves in the background? Even the main Ubuntu thingy asks me before updating. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.no mailto:a...@mellomrommet.nowrote: Not sure what you mean here (updates not included)? Unless it's become abandonware (no more in development), updating should be automatically taken care of. Anyway glad to hear it was what you looked for. Alf On 09. april 2013 13:54, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks again, Alf Synapse aboard and seems just the ticket. Also, after this morning's update, I find I am now able to put my own dubious artwork on the desktop. I see Synapse updates are not included in Ubuntu; will Synaptic do? I run it periodically. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Pete Wright pnwri...@gmail.com mailto:pnwri...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Alf, I will try Synapse. And as to desktop pic, I think that is what I did and it didn't work. It's my computer, I think. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.no mailto:a...@mellomrommet.no wrote: I don't use unity, so I might be
Re: Desktop change consequences
No, Nothing updates in the background, the update manager will always ask. It just means updates are not taken care of by canonical's Ubuntu team and that they may (or may not) be provided by the community. Kind of the same way Microsoft provides updates for IE but not for Firefox, although the example is a bit flawed as Microsoft won't let you download software they don't own through their channels. But that's the wonder of open source! Actually the software repositories is one of my favorites with Ubuntu. Finding and installing programs is so simple and updates automatically taken care of (if there are any). Alf On 10. april 2013 14:52, Pete Wright wrote: Really? Updating automatic? I knew Ubuntu updates automatically, but many items in the Software Centre say Updates not provided by Ubuntu...may be provided by community or something like that. Are these packages/programs automagically updating themselves in the background? Even the main Ubuntu thingy asks me before updating. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.nowrote: Not sure what you mean here (updates not included)? Unless it's become abandonware (no more in development), updating should be automatically taken care of. Anyway glad to hear it was what you looked for. Alf On 09. april 2013 13:54, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks again, Alf Synapse aboard and seems just the ticket. Also, after this morning's update, I find I am now able to put my own dubious artwork on the desktop. I see Synapse updates are not included in Ubuntu; will Synaptic do? I run it periodically. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Pete Wright pnwri...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Alf, I will try Synapse. And as to desktop pic, I think that is what I did and it didn't work. It's my computer, I think. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.no wrote: I don't use unity, so I might be off target. But heads up search sounds like what synapse is doing for me. It's a small app that finds anything, files or programs. Hit ctrl-space to launch, type a few letters (just f and first suggestion is firefox, first suggestion adapts to what is most used). Navigate through suggestions with arrows. Synapse is available in software center and synaptic. As for changing desktop image, for me right-click on the desktop and choosing desktop settings gets me there. Or [ctrl-space], [de] and first suggestion is desktop settings. Good luck on ubuntu studio, and never be afraid to ask! All the best, Alf On 08. april 2013 21:31, Pete Wright wrote: I guess I would say the functions that play to my inherent laziness. Love the heads up search, especially. Nothing one can't do in Studio with a few more clicks, though. And I can't change the desktop picture to one of my own in Studio -- and no, I won't be surprised to learn that is a bug or glitch specific to my wheezy old computer, not the OS. grins Pete On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.no wrote: On 08. april 2013 19:45, Pete Wright wrote: If this question is too “newbie” or worse, heretical, please forgive and then ignore me. I changed from Ubuntu 12.10 to Ubuntu Studio 12.10 primarily because GIMP was slightly flakey (main problem was it wouldn't accept ctr key combination like ctr+ left click to select area for clone brush) and I hoped Studio would not have something hijacking the ctrl function. I also do lots of content creation (primarily writing and art photography) so Studio seemed a good choice. Now I find myself missing the much-maligned Unity desktop. So, can I change to Unity desktop in Studio without horrible consequences? (And if so, how do I do it?) Or is nobody checking to see if Unity works with all the rest of Studio, and so I should just shut up and sit down? Thanks. Pete I agree with other answers you got, better ask than not. And, out of curiosity, I've got my own question: Which functions of Unity do you miss? Alf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ub**untu.com http://ubuntu.com Ubuntu-Studio-users@**lists.**ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com Ubuntu-Studio-**us...@lists.ubuntu.comUbuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-**studio-usershttps://lists.** ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-usershttp://ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/**ubuntu-studio-users https://**lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/**listinfo/ubuntu-studio-usershttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.**ub**untu.com http://ubuntu.com Ubuntu-Studio-users@**lists.ubuntu.comUbuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-usershttps://lists.**
Re: Desktop change consequences
Beware of sudo, it gives you godlike powers... the best advice I can give: If you have the resources, set up two computers, one of them being your stable production/work/school machine, the other being your experimental setup. Try the new commands on the experimental machine, in case they don't work out like you hope. Once you're comfortable with them, use them on the production machine. Good luck! Ben On 04/10/2013 10:07 AM, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks, Andrew. You and Alf are elevating my self-confidence to dangerous levels. cheers On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Andrew Huys musiek.sparta...@gmail.com mailto:musiek.sparta...@gmail.com wrote: I get something from the repository I do not have to use synaptic to keep it up to date? If you use update-manager and have automatic updates turned on, no, you do not need to use synaptic for anything. However, Synaptic is /very/ useful when you're searching for packages to install and maybe don't know the names (if you dislike the software-center). Synaptic is faster on my older machines (IBM/Lenovo T43p, etc.) than software center, as it does not have fancy graphics, ratings, reviews, etc. Also, being able to install multiple items just by checking the boxes and clicking [apply] seems easier to me than finding each individual software in software center. As far as updating goes, I almost never use the update-manager (had an issue with it at one time, don't remember what, but stopped using it then), I find it easier to do via command-line: sudo apt-get update Sudo apt-get upgrade I run these about once a week (or whenever i remember) just to keep on top of things. -AND Huys On 04/10/2013 09:46 AM, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks, Alf. So, to make sure I understand you, if I get something from the repository I do not have to use synaptic to keep it up to date? Is Synaptic still useful in any scenario, or is it completely irrelevant/obsolete? On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.no mailto:a...@mellomrommet.no wrote: No, Nothing updates in the background, the update manager will always ask. It just means updates are not taken care of by canonical's Ubuntu team and that they may (or may not) be provided by the community. Kind of the same way Microsoft provides updates for IE but not for Firefox, although the example is a bit flawed as Microsoft won't let you download software they don't own through their channels. But that's the wonder of open source! Actually the software repositories is one of my favorites with Ubuntu. Finding and installing programs is so simple and updates automatically taken care of (if there are any). Alf On 10. april 2013 14:52, Pete Wright wrote: Really? Updating automatic? I knew Ubuntu updates automatically, but many items in the Software Centre say Updates not provided by Ubuntu...may be provided by community or something like that. Are these packages/programs automagically updating themselves in the background? Even the main Ubuntu thingy asks me before updating. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.no mailto:a...@mellomrommet.nowrote: Not sure what you mean here (updates not included)? Unless it's become abandonware (no more in development), updating should be automatically taken care of. Anyway glad to hear it was what you looked for. Alf On 09. april 2013 13:54, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks again, Alf Synapse aboard and seems just the ticket. Also, after this morning's update, I find I am now able to put my own dubious artwork on the desktop. I see Synapse updates are not included in Ubuntu; will Synaptic do? I run it periodically. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Pete Wright pnwri...@gmail.com mailto:pnwri...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Alf, I will try Synapse. And as to desktop pic, I think that is what I did and it didn't work. It's my computer, I think. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.no mailto:a...@mellomrommet.no wrote: I don't use unity, so I might be
Re: Desktop change consequences
Thanks, Ben I do have 2.5 linux setups (don't have full-time access to the third, so 2.5). The rub is they are not identical hardware and do not behave the same with identical software, which I gave up trying to achieve. So I am now running Ubuntu 12.10 on one, Ubuntu Studio 12.10 on my main machine, and a hodge-podge mostly 12.04 on a mini laptop which is ethernetted into my main one.. Am I correct that SUDO gives temporary super-user status (but not root)? I had what had to have been one of the rare few personally-owned Unix machines back in the early '80s, and am trying to dredge up and/or replace the old knowledge, after being mainly in the windows world from around 1984 until late last year.. Bizarre, I admit. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Andrew Huys musiek.sparta...@gmail.comwrote: Beware of sudo, it gives you godlike powers... the best advice I can give: If you have the resources, set up two computers, one of them being your stable production/work/school machine, the other being your experimental setup. Try the new commands on the experimental machine, in case they don't work out like you hope. Once you're comfortable with them, use them on the production machine. Good luck! Ben On 04/10/2013 10:07 AM, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks, Andrew. You and Alf are elevating my self-confidence to dangerous levels. cheers On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Andrew Huys musiek.sparta...@gmail.comwrote: I get something from the repository I do not have to use synaptic to keep it up to date? If you use update-manager and have automatic updates turned on, no, you do not need to use synaptic for anything. However, Synaptic is *very* useful when you're searching for packages to install and maybe don't know the names (if you dislike the software-center). Synaptic is faster on my older machines (IBM/Lenovo T43p, etc.) than software center, as it does not have fancy graphics, ratings, reviews, etc. Also, being able to install multiple items just by checking the boxes and clicking [apply] seems easier to me than finding each individual software in software center. As far as updating goes, I almost never use the update-manager (had an issue with it at one time, don't remember what, but stopped using it then), I find it easier to do via command-line: sudo apt-get update Sudo apt-get upgrade I run these about once a week (or whenever i remember) just to keep on top of things. -AND Huys On 04/10/2013 09:46 AM, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks, Alf. So, to make sure I understand you, if I get something from the repository I do not have to use synaptic to keep it up to date? Is Synaptic still useful in any scenario, or is it completely irrelevant/obsolete? On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.nowrote: No, Nothing updates in the background, the update manager will always ask. It just means updates are not taken care of by canonical's Ubuntu team and that they may (or may not) be provided by the community. Kind of the same way Microsoft provides updates for IE but not for Firefox, although the example is a bit flawed as Microsoft won't let you download software they don't own through their channels. But that's the wonder of open source! Actually the software repositories is one of my favorites with Ubuntu. Finding and installing programs is so simple and updates automatically taken care of (if there are any). Alf On 10. april 2013 14:52, Pete Wright wrote: Really? Updating automatic? I knew Ubuntu updates automatically, but many items in the Software Centre say Updates not provided by Ubuntu...may be provided by community or something like that. Are these packages/programs automagically updating themselves in the background? Even the main Ubuntu thingy asks me before updating. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.no wrote: Not sure what you mean here (updates not included)? Unless it's become abandonware (no more in development), updating should be automatically taken care of. Anyway glad to hear it was what you looked for. Alf On 09. april 2013 13:54, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks again, Alf Synapse aboard and seems just the ticket. Also, after this morning's update, I find I am now able to put my own dubious artwork on the desktop. I see Synapse updates are not included in Ubuntu; will Synaptic do? I run it periodically. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Pete Wright pnwri...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Alf, I will try Synapse. And as to desktop pic, I think that is what I did and it didn't work. It's my computer, I think. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.no wrote: I don't use unity, so I might be off target. But heads up search sounds like what synapse is doing for me. It's a small app that finds anything, files or programs. Hit ctrl-space to launch, type a few letters (just
Re: Desktop change consequences
yes, sudo is temporary. Usually the default for sudo timeout is 15 minutes. there is a way to set it for longer/shorter, but I don't exactly remember how to accomplish it... On 04/10/2013 01:35 PM, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks, Ben I do have 2.5 linux setups (don't have full-time access to the third, so 2.5). The rub is they are not identical hardware and do not behave the same with identical software, which I gave up trying to achieve. So I am now running Ubuntu 12.10 on one, Ubuntu Studio 12.10 on my main machine, and a hodge-podge mostly 12.04 on a mini laptop which is ethernetted into my main one.. Am I correct that SUDO gives temporary super-user status (but not root)? I had what had to have been one of the rare few personally-owned Unix machines back in the early '80s, and am trying to dredge up and/or replace the old knowledge, after being mainly in the windows world from around 1984 until late last year.. Bizarre, I admit. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Andrew Huys musiek.sparta...@gmail.com mailto:musiek.sparta...@gmail.com wrote: Beware of sudo, it gives you godlike powers... the best advice I can give: If you have the resources, set up two computers, one of them being your stable production/work/school machine, the other being your experimental setup. Try the new commands on the experimental machine, in case they don't work out like you hope. Once you're comfortable with them, use them on the production machine. Good luck! Ben On 04/10/2013 10:07 AM, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks, Andrew. You and Alf are elevating my self-confidence to dangerous levels. cheers On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Andrew Huys musiek.sparta...@gmail.com mailto:musiek.sparta...@gmail.com wrote: I get something from the repository I do not have to use synaptic to keep it up to date? If you use update-manager and have automatic updates turned on, no, you do not need to use synaptic for anything. However, Synaptic is /very/ useful when you're searching for packages to install and maybe don't know the names (if you dislike the software-center). Synaptic is faster on my older machines (IBM/Lenovo T43p, etc.) than software center, as it does not have fancy graphics, ratings, reviews, etc. Also, being able to install multiple items just by checking the boxes and clicking [apply] seems easier to me than finding each individual software in software center. As far as updating goes, I almost never use the update-manager (had an issue with it at one time, don't remember what, but stopped using it then), I find it easier to do via command-line: sudo apt-get update Sudo apt-get upgrade I run these about once a week (or whenever i remember) just to keep on top of things. -AND Huys On 04/10/2013 09:46 AM, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks, Alf. So, to make sure I understand you, if I get something from the repository I do not have to use synaptic to keep it up to date? Is Synaptic still useful in any scenario, or is it completely irrelevant/obsolete? On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.no mailto:a...@mellomrommet.no wrote: No, Nothing updates in the background, the update manager will always ask. It just means updates are not taken care of by canonical's Ubuntu team and that they may (or may not) be provided by the community. Kind of the same way Microsoft provides updates for IE but not for Firefox, although the example is a bit flawed as Microsoft won't let you download software they don't own through their channels. But that's the wonder of open source! Actually the software repositories is one of my favorites with Ubuntu. Finding and installing programs is so simple and updates automatically taken care of (if there are any). Alf On 10. april 2013 14:52, Pete Wright wrote: Really? Updating automatic? I knew Ubuntu updates automatically, but many items in the Software Centre say Updates not provided by Ubuntu...may be provided by community or something like that. Are these packages/programs automagically updating themselves in the background? Even the main Ubuntu thingy asks me before updating. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.no mailto:a...@mellomrommet.nowrote: Not sure what you mean here (updates not included)? Unless it's become
Re: Desktop change consequences
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudoTimeout On 10/04/13 17:43, Andrew Huys wrote: yes, sudo is temporary. Usually the default for sudo timeout is 15 minutes. there is a way to set it for longer/shorter, but I don't exactly remember how to accomplish it... On 04/10/2013 01:35 PM, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks, Ben I do have 2.5 linux setups (don't have full-time access to the third, so 2.5). The rub is they are not identical hardware and do not behave the same with identical software, which I gave up trying to achieve. So I am now running Ubuntu 12.10 on one, Ubuntu Studio 12.10 on my main machine, and a hodge-podge mostly 12.04 on a mini laptop which is ethernetted into my main one.. Am I correct that SUDO gives temporary super-user status (but not root)? I had what had to have been one of the rare few personally-owned Unix machines back in the early '80s, and am trying to dredge up and/or replace the old knowledge, after being mainly in the windows world from around 1984 until late last year.. Bizarre, I admit. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Andrew Huys musiek.sparta...@gmail.com mailto:musiek.sparta...@gmail.com wrote: Beware of sudo, it gives you godlike powers... the best advice I can give: If you have the resources, set up two computers, one of them being your stable production/work/school machine, the other being your experimental setup. Try the new commands on the experimental machine, in case they don't work out like you hope. Once you're comfortable with them, use them on the production machine. Good luck! Ben On 04/10/2013 10:07 AM, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks, Andrew. You and Alf are elevating my self-confidence to dangerous levels. cheers On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Andrew Huys musiek.sparta...@gmail.com mailto:musiek.sparta...@gmail.com wrote: I get something from the repository I do not have to use synaptic to keep it up to date? If you use update-manager and have automatic updates turned on, no, you do not need to use synaptic for anything. However, Synaptic is /very/ useful when you're searching for packages to install and maybe don't know the names (if you dislike the software-center). Synaptic is faster on my older machines (IBM/Lenovo T43p, etc.) than software center, as it does not have fancy graphics, ratings, reviews, etc. Also, being able to install multiple items just by checking the boxes and clicking [apply] seems easier to me than finding each individual software in software center. As far as updating goes, I almost never use the update-manager (had an issue with it at one time, don't remember what, but stopped using it then), I find it easier to do via command-line: sudo apt-get update Sudo apt-get upgrade I run these about once a week (or whenever i remember) just to keep on top of things. -AND Huys On 04/10/2013 09:46 AM, Pete Wright wrote: Thanks, Alf. So, to make sure I understand you, if I get something from the repository I do not have to use synaptic to keep it up to date? Is Synaptic still useful in any scenario, or is it completely irrelevant/obsolete? On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.no mailto:a...@mellomrommet.no wrote: No, Nothing updates in the background, the update manager will always ask. It just means updates are not taken care of by canonical's Ubuntu team and that they may (or may not) be provided by the community. Kind of the same way Microsoft provides updates for IE but not for Firefox, although the example is a bit flawed as Microsoft won't let you download software they don't own through their channels. But that's the wonder of open source! Actually the software repositories is one of my favorites with Ubuntu. Finding and installing programs is so simple and updates automatically taken care of (if there are any). Alf On 10. april 2013 14:52, Pete Wright wrote: Really? Updating automatic? I knew Ubuntu updates automatically, but many items in the Software Centre say Updates not provided by Ubuntu...may be provided by community or something like that. Are these packages/programs automagically updating themselves in the background? Even the main Ubuntu thingy asks me before updating. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.no mailto:a...@mellomrommet.nowrote:
Re: Desktop change consequences
Sure, I did it for a while, then realized that XFCE is way better ;) sudo apt-get install unity If it doesn't work out like you hope, to get rid of unity: sudo apt-get purge unity sudo apt-get autoremove Good luck! On 04/08/2013 01:45 PM, Pete Wright wrote: If this question is too newbie or worse, heretical, please forgive and then ignore me. I changed from Ubuntu 12.10 to Ubuntu Studio 12.10 primarily because GIMP was slightly flakey (main problem was it wouldn't accept ctr key combination like ctr+ left click to select area for clone brush) and I hoped Studio would not have something hijacking the ctrl function. I also do lots of content creation (primarily writing and art photography) so Studio seemed a good choice. Now I find myself missing the much-maligned Unity desktop. So, can I change to Unity desktop in Studio without horrible consequences? (And if so, how do I do it?) Or is nobody checking to see if Unity works with all the rest of Studio, and so I should just shut up and sit down? Thanks. Pete -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 19:45:40 +0200, Pete Wright pnwri...@gmail.com wrote: If this question is too “newbie” or worse, heretical, please forgive and then ignore me. It isn't, you should asked what ever you want, sure, you also should search the web yourself a little bit, but since that isn't easy for a newbie, you better asked a question to much, than a question to less. I don't use Unity, so I don't have knowledge about it. Usually, if a window is focused, the shortcut should work for that Window. This doesn't work for every shortcut, but every desktop environment, resp. windows manager should provide the option to change shortcuts by the user. I suspect that if you install Unity, everything will become as it was, but there might be a menu to change or disable shortcuts. OTOH in a hurry I couldn't find how to disable the mouse wheel button for Xfce4, they can hide options very good, if they want ;). As somebody else already mentioned, you can install Unity beside Xfce4. Theoretically this should work for all DEs, but sometimes it does cause issues, when using on Desktop environment A the browser from environment B the session could become a mix of both desktop environments, or desktop environment X has got 2 trash cans on the Desktop, one that is used and another, from environment Z. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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Thanks to all for all the helpful feedback. The reference to GIMP while we're at school... made me smile. I am a newbie to Ubuntu and Linux. But not to messing with new things in a world not quite ready. I was laughed out of a technical meeting of movie equipment pros one time when I told them that one day soon the 35mm and 16mm cameras we were using would be the exception and video cameras would be used for just about everything, especially since nearly everything would be on small screens. That was about 1973, I think. I made the first film that used post-produced synthesized music. About 1975, I think. Won some significant awards. Got some smart buddies in Nashville to help make post-produced music work in a user controlled interactive video exhibit for a science museum. 1986 maybe? Probably never been done again (it was a pretty crazy thing to do, after all), and I was told as recently as last month that it was impossible. So in return for all the kind advice, I will give you all some: Never stop being a newbie. I have been at it 75 years now. Works for me. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Andrew Huys musiek.sparta...@gmail.comwrote: On 04/08/2013 02:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 19:45:40 +0200, Pete Wright pnwri...@gmail.compnwri...@gmail.comwrote: If this question is too “newbie” or worse, heretical, please forgive and then ignore me. It isn't, you should asked what ever you want, sure, you also should search the web yourself a little bit, but since that isn't easy for a newbie, you better asked a question to much, than a question to less. Because if nobody asks, then all of us that sit around in front of the studio monitors (or work on GIMP while we're at school...) don't have anything to do... No, seriously, it's better to ask, no matter what the question is, rather than having somthing drive you crazy... -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Desktop change consequences
On 08. april 2013 19:45, Pete Wright wrote: If this question is too “newbie” or worse, heretical, please forgive and then ignore me. I changed from Ubuntu 12.10 to Ubuntu Studio 12.10 primarily because GIMP was slightly flakey (main problem was it wouldn't accept ctr key combination like ctr+ left click to select area for clone brush) and I hoped Studio would not have something hijacking the ctrl function. I also do lots of content creation (primarily writing and art photography) so Studio seemed a good choice. Now I find myself missing the much-maligned Unity desktop. So, can I change to Unity desktop in Studio without horrible consequences? (And if so, how do I do it?) Or is nobody checking to see if Unity works with all the rest of Studio, and so I should just shut up and sit down? Thanks. Pete I agree with other answers you got, better ask than not. And, out of curiosity, I've got my own question: Which functions of Unity do you miss? Alf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Desktop change consequences
I guess I would say the functions that play to my inherent laziness. Love the heads up search, especially. Nothing one can't do in Studio with a few more clicks, though. And I can't change the desktop picture to one of my own in Studio -- and no, I won't be surprised to learn that is a bug or glitch specific to my wheezy old computer, not the OS. grins Pete On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Alf Haakon Lund a...@mellomrommet.nowrote: On 08. april 2013 19:45, Pete Wright wrote: If this question is too “newbie” or worse, heretical, please forgive and then ignore me. I changed from Ubuntu 12.10 to Ubuntu Studio 12.10 primarily because GIMP was slightly flakey (main problem was it wouldn't accept ctr key combination like ctr+ left click to select area for clone brush) and I hoped Studio would not have something hijacking the ctrl function. I also do lots of content creation (primarily writing and art photography) so Studio seemed a good choice. Now I find myself missing the much-maligned Unity desktop. So, can I change to Unity desktop in Studio without horrible consequences? (And if so, how do I do it?) Or is nobody checking to see if Unity works with all the rest of Studio, and so I should just shut up and sit down? Thanks. Pete I agree with other answers you got, better ask than not. And, out of curiosity, I've got my own question: Which functions of Unity do you miss? Alf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.**ubuntu.comUbuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-**studio-usershttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Desktop change consequences
I loved our Arriflex. Couldn't afford its care and feeding today, though. Even in 1975 it cost about $11 a minute to turn it on. That was the number that ran in my head while shooting; I think it was total cost of film, processing, and one copy one-light work print. On the subject of sound on film, I was once asked to help out a public TV station whose intern shot some critical footage with an Auricon. Kind of a cubical camera that recorded sound directly on the optical sound track. Problem was, the kid held the camera upside down. How to fix it without going shipping the film 120 miles to nearest available (prohibitively expensive) optical printer? Oh, and there was a film at eleven kind of time crunch, too. Got a couple of friends in and we dismantled the stations film chain (which was basically a projector/camera combination) and temporarily inverted the camera -- the projector wouldn't run upside down; couldn't be cooled in that position. If you are of recent vintage and want to imagine the analog world we all lived in, just think slow, cranky, and everything you do cast in bronze. I am out of here now, before I get the OT boot! On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote: On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 21:11:50 +0200, Pete Wright pnwri...@gmail.com wrote: I have been at it 75 years now. I'm 46 years old and have never seen an Arriflex when working. We used analog video before the Betacam was released and later with the Sony Betacam, much later still the Sony Betacam, but the digital version. Sure, studio cams in Germany were Bosch. If I would win much money, I would buy an Arriflex. I don't like audio on analog film, neither magnet nor light audio tracks are ok, but that's another issue. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.**ubuntu.comUbuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-**studio-usershttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
