Beware of "sudo", it gives you godlike powers...

the best advice I can give: If you have the resources, set up two computers, one of them being your stable production/work/school machine, the other being your experimental setup. Try the new commands on the experimental machine, in case they don't work out like you hope. Once you're comfortable with them, use them on the production machine.

Good luck!

Ben
On 04/10/2013 10:07 AM, Pete Wright wrote:
Thanks, Andrew.
You and Alf are elevating my self-confidence to dangerous levels.
cheers


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Andrew Huys <musiek.sparta...@gmail.com <mailto:musiek.sparta...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    "I get something from the repository I do not have to use synaptic
    to keep it up to date?"  If you use update-manager and have
    automatic updates turned on, no, you do not need to use synaptic
    for anything.

    However, Synaptic is /very/ useful when you're searching for
    packages to install and maybe don't know the names (if you dislike
    the software-center).  Synaptic is faster on my older machines
    (IBM/Lenovo T43p, etc.) than software center, as it does not have
    fancy graphics, ratings, reviews, etc.  Also, being able to
    install multiple items just by checking the boxes and clicking
    [apply] seems easier to me than finding each individual software
    in software center.

    As far as updating goes, I almost  never use the "update-manager"
    (had an issue with it at one time, don't remember what, but
    stopped using it then), I find it easier to do via command-line:

    sudo apt-get update
    Sudo apt-get upgrade

    I run these about once a week (or whenever i remember) just to
    keep on top of things.

    -AND Huys



    On 04/10/2013 09:46 AM, Pete Wright wrote:
    Thanks, Alf.
    So, to make sure I understand you, if I get something from the
    repository I do not have to use synaptic to keep it up to date?
    Is Synaptic still useful in any scenario, or is it completely
    irrelevant/obsolete?



    On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Alf Haakon Lund
    <a...@mellomrommet.no <mailto:a...@mellomrommet.no>> wrote:

        No,

        Nothing updates in the background, the update manager will
        always ask. It just means updates are not taken care of by
        canonical's Ubuntu team and that they may (or may not) be
        provided by the community.

        Kind of the same way Microsoft provides updates for IE but
        not for Firefox, although the example is a bit flawed as
        Microsoft won't let you download software they don't own
        through their channels.

        But that's the wonder of open source! Actually the software
        repositories is one of my favorites with Ubuntu. Finding and
        installing programs is so simple and updates automatically
        taken care of (if there are any).

        Alf




        On 10. april 2013 14:52, Pete Wright wrote:

            Really? Updating automatic? I knew Ubuntu updates
            automatically, but many
            items in the Software Centre say "Updates not provided by
            Ubuntu...may be
            provided by community" or something like that. Are these
            packages/programs
            automagically updating themselves in the background? Even
            the main Ubuntu
            thingy asks me before updating.


            On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Alf Haakon Lund
            <a...@mellomrommet.no <mailto:a...@mellomrommet.no>>wrote:

                Not sure what you mean here (updates not included)?
                Unless it's become
                abandonware (no more in development), updating should
                be automatically
                taken care of.

                Anyway glad to hear it was what you looked for.

                Alf




                On 09. april 2013 13:54, Pete Wright wrote:

                    Thanks again, Alf
                    Synapse aboard and seems just the ticket.
                    Also, after this morning's update, I find I am
                    now able to put my own
                    dubious artwork on the desktop.
                    I see Synapse updates are not included in Ubuntu;
                    will Synaptic do? I run
                    it periodically.



                    On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Pete Wright
                    <pnwri...@gmail.com <mailto:pnwri...@gmail.com>>
                    wrote:

                      Thanks Alf, I will try Synapse.

                        And as to desktop pic, I think that is what I
                        did and it didn't work.
                        It's
                        my computer, I think.


                        On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Alf Haakon
                        Lund <a...@mellomrommet.no
                        <mailto:a...@mellomrommet.no>

                            wrote:


                          I don't use unity, so I might be off
                        target. But "heads up search"

                            sounds
                            like what synapse is doing for me. It's a
                            small app that finds anything,
                            files or programs. Hit ctrl-space to
                            launch, type a few letters (just f
                            and
                            first suggestion is firefox, first
                            suggestion adapts to what is most
                            used).
                            Navigate through suggestions with arrows.

                            Synapse is available in software center
                            and synaptic.

                            As for changing desktop image, for me
                            right-click on the desktop and
                            choosing desktop settings gets me there.
                            Or [ctrl-space], [de] and first
                            suggestion is desktop settings.

                            Good luck on ubuntu studio, and never be
                            afraid to ask!

                            All the best,
                            Alf




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