Re: Jack and SB-awe soundcard
On Saturday 29 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a way to force it to use the same one every time. I think it is done with alsa's configuration. When I get a chance, I will look it up. I diddled around with a couple of different suggestions people made in response to previous queries on that matter, but nothing actually worked. If you do come up with a suggestion that does the job, we should publish it widely, and in an idiot-proof format. I rarely reboot anyway, so I can live with this. It sure is annoying though. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Jack and SB-awe soundcard
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:50:47 +, Toby Smithe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Ray Edester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used Creative's Sound Blaster cards for as long as I've had a PC and never a problem. DOS, Winsloth and several distros of Linux. The Audigy line are pretty good, and have a decent feature set. I'd recommend going for the Audigy 2 ZS, if possible, rather than the Audigy SE. Two more words: *not* X-Fi. They do not work *at all*. snip I have the Audigy2 ZS. It works great for games and sounds good as well. I have the breakout box too. I haven't been able to get anything on the breakout box going. Anyone have any links for how to get it working? One other issue going with creative anything is for recording. Everything I've been reading about creative cards is that the latency makes them pretty much unusable for recording. Thanks -- Best Regards, Mike Reynolds -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Jack and SB-awe soundcard
On Friday 28 March 2008, Mike Reynolds wrote: One other issue going with creative anything is for recording. Everything I've been reading about creative cards is that the latency makes them pretty much unusable for recording. I guess it depends on how high your expectations are. With my current setup, every time I reboot, it's a crapshoot whether I'm going to come up with my emu10k1 or my ice1712 as the card JACK is using. I once went a month before I noticed JACK was talking to the emu10k1. I did eventually notice, and go ah ha, but they're not exactly light years apart in performance. Considering the one was about $100 and the other about $15, the SB Live 5.1 Value Edition is really pretty damn good. It's a pity they have become unobtanium. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Jack and SB-awe soundcard
On Friday 14 March 2008, Gary Ball wrote: * Starting TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation...[fail] Hard to say why this is, but it looks like either the snd-seq-midi module isn't loading, or maybe it's a problem like JACK is having. Sorry. The audio interface hw:0 doesn't support any of the hardware sample formats that JACK's alsa-driver can use. That's a weird one, and doesn't look encouraging. This is my system hardware. it's old, but so am I. I don't even see a soundcard listed here. I eliminated things that weren't soundcards until the list was gone. Your subject line says SB-awe soundcard. Just what do you have in here? I would guess perhaps you have an old ISA AWE-32 in there. Is that right? That would make sense, since that's not a PCI card, and it didn't show up in a list of PCI devices. If it really is an ISA card, the short story is please move along. In fact, let's just move along no matter what, because it doesn't sound like this card could be worth any struggle. No use putting a lot of effort into getting unsatisfactory results. Could it be the sound card is too old? If so, can anyone recommend a linux friendly alternative. Almost anything manufactured after 1997 should work reasonably well. What are you trying to do? What's your budget? You can go cheaper and still see acceptable results, but if you're of a Studio bent, you can't go wrong with anything mAudio from the Audiophile 24/96 on up. These are good cards that work really well. If you can't afford one of those, I can dig around to try to come up with a recommendation for something else of current manufacture. The stuff I used to recommend the most is no longer in production, and I'm not really sure what's out there these days, since my own soundcards are old. Just not as old as yours! :) -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Jack and SB-awe soundcard
Thanks for your help! This Ubuntustudio User help is a great community Although it looks as if I'm going shopping for a new soundcard today. I'm a graphic designer, so the sound mixing element of my day isn't huge. But that's about half of what this flavour of Linux is supposed to excel in right? Who knows, maybe a career change as a DJ in a nightclub is in order? I'll keep you posted. Thanks again, Gary Ball On 15-Mar-08, at 11:34 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: On Friday 14 March 2008, Gary Ball wrote: * Starting TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation...[fail] Hard to say why this is, but it looks like either the snd-seq-midi module isn't loading, or maybe it's a problem like JACK is having. Sorry. The audio interface hw:0 doesn't support any of the hardware sample formats that JACK's alsa-driver can use. That's a weird one, and doesn't look encouraging. This is my system hardware. it's old, but so am I. I don't even see a soundcard listed here. I eliminated things that weren't soundcards until the list was gone. Your subject line says SB-awe soundcard. Just what do you have in here? I would guess perhaps you have an old ISA AWE-32 in there. Is that right? That would make sense, since that's not a PCI card, and it didn't show up in a list of PCI devices. If it really is an ISA card, the short story is please move along. In fact, let's just move along no matter what, because it doesn't sound like this card could be worth any struggle. No use putting a lot of effort into getting unsatisfactory results. Could it be the sound card is too old? If so, can anyone recommend a linux friendly alternative. Almost anything manufactured after 1997 should work reasonably well. What are you trying to do? What's your budget? You can go cheaper and still see acceptable results, but if you're of a Studio bent, you can't go wrong with anything mAudio from the Audiophile 24/96 on up. These are good cards that work really well. If you can't afford one of those, I can dig around to try to come up with a recommendation for something else of current manufacture. The stuff I used to recommend the most is no longer in production, and I'm not really sure what's out there these days, since my own soundcards are old. Just not as old as yours! :) -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Jack and SB-awe soundcard
Hi Gary, Were you able to get sound to work before running Jack or installing ubuntustudio ? Gary Ball wrote: Hi All. Forgive me, But I'm a linux-ly challenged old fart who left the cushy world of Mac OSX and I am currently trying to set up the sound in UbuntuStudio. Two issues: I get a timidity error whenever it updates ... Setting up timidity (2.13.2-15ubuntu1) ... * Starting timidity * Starting TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation... [fail] invoke-rc.d: initscript timidity, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing timidity (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ubuntustudio-audio: ubuntustudio-audio depends on timidity; however: Package timidity is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing ubuntustudio-audio (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: timidity ubuntustudio-audio E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) The second issue is when I try to run the JACK controller. Creating link /home/gary/.kde/socket-unixOffice. 10:15:14.387 Startup script terminated with exit status=256. 10:15:14.387 JACK is starting... 10:15:14.388 /usr/bin/jackd -R -dalsa -dhw:0 -r44100 -p64 -n2 -m 10:15:14.393 JACK was started with PID=12849 (0x3231). jackd 0.103.0 Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others. jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details JACK compiled with System V SHM support. loading driver .. apparent rate = 44100 creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|64|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit control device hw:0 configuring for 44100Hz, period = 64 frames, buffer = 2 periods Sorry. The audio interface "hw:0" doesn't support any of the hardware sample formats that JACK's alsa-driver can use. ALSA: cannot configure capture channel cannot load driver module alsa no message buffer overruns 10:15:15.069 JACK was stopped successfully. 10:15:15.074 Post-shutdown script... 10:15:15.078 killall jackd jackd: no process killed 10:15:15.390 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit status=256. 10:15:16.700 Could not connect to JACK server as client. Please check the messages window for more info. JACK tmpdir identified as [/dev/shm] Could it be the sound card is too old? If so, can anyone recommend a linux friendly alternative. UbuntuStudio looks awesome, but I haven't been able to take full advantage of it yet This is my system hardware. it's old, but so am I. 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C693A/694x [Apollo PRO133x] (rev c4) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 Memory at e000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] Capabilities: access denied 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP] (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 I/O behind bridge: a000-bfff Memory behind bridge: dde0-dfef Prefetchable memory behind bridge: ddc0-ddcf Capabilities: access denied 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 22) Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686/A PCI to ISA Bridge Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 10) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32 [virtual] Memory at 01f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8] [virtual] Memory at 03f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [size=1] [virtual] Memory at 0170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8] [virtual] Memory at 0370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [size=1] I/O ports at ffa0 [size=16] Capabilities: access denied 00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 10) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: First International Computer, Inc. VA-502 Mainboard Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 I/O ports at dc00 [size=32] Capabilities: access denied 00:07.4 SMBus: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 30) Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11 Capabilities: access denied 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 42) Subsystem: D-Link System Inc DFE-530TX rev A Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 I/O ports at d800 [size=256] Memory at df00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Expansion ROM at dffe [disabled] [size=64K]
Re: Jack and SB-awe soundcard
Yes, the sound eventually did work (after a lot of trial error self help on the internet) using the SB-awe alsa driver, just not anything to do with JACK. Regards, Gary Ball Tel.: 905-632-6263 • Cell:905-580-0587 [EMAIL PROTECTED] home.cogeco.ca/~gball On 15-Mar-08, at 12:35 PM, Mark Stuart Burge wrote: Hi Gary, Were you able to get sound to work before running Jack or installing ubuntustudio ? Gary Ball wrote: Hi All. Forgive me, But I'm a linux-ly challenged old fart who left the cushy world of Mac OSX and I am currently trying to set up the sound in UbuntuStudio. Two issues: I get a timidity error whenever it updates ... Setting up timidity (2.13.2-15ubuntu1) ... * Starting timidity * Starting TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation...[fail] invoke-rc.d: initscript timidity, action start failed. dpkg: error processing timidity (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ubuntustudio- audio: ubuntustudio-audio depends on timidity; however: Package timidity is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing ubuntustudio-audio (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: timidity ubuntustudio-audio E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) The second issue is when I try to run the JACK controller. Creating link /home/gary/.kde/socket-unixOffice. 10:15:14.387 Startup script terminated with exit status=256. 10:15:14.387 JACK is starting... 10:15:14.388 /usr/bin/jackd -R -dalsa -dhw:0 -r44100 -p64 -n2 -m 10:15:14.393 JACK was started with PID=12849 (0x3231). jackd 0.103.0 Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others. jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details JACK compiled with System V SHM support. loading driver .. apparent rate = 44100 creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|64|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-| 32bit control device hw:0 configuring for 44100Hz, period = 64 frames, buffer = 2 periods Sorry. The audio interface hw:0 doesn't support any of the hardware sample formats that JACK's alsa-driver can use. ALSA: cannot configure capture channel cannot load driver module alsa no message buffer overruns 10:15:15.069 JACK was stopped successfully. 10:15:15.074 Post-shutdown script... 10:15:15.078 killall jackd jackd: no process killed 10:15:15.390 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit status=256. 10:15:16.700 Could not connect to JACK server as client. Please check the messages window for more info. JACK tmpdir identified as [/dev/shm] Could it be the sound card is too old? If so, can anyone recommend a linux friendly alternative. UbuntuStudio looks awesome, but I haven't been able to take full advantage of it yet This is my system hardware. it's old, but so am I. 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C693A/694x [Apollo PRO133x] (rev c4) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 Memory at e000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] Capabilities: access denied 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP] (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 I/O behind bridge: a000-bfff Memory behind bridge: dde0-dfef Prefetchable memory behind bridge: ddc0-ddcf Capabilities: access denied 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 22) Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686/A PCI to ISA Bridge Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/ A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 10) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32 [virtual] Memory at 01f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8] [virtual] Memory at 03f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [size=1] [virtual] Memory at 0170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8] [virtual] Memory at 0370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [size=1] I/O ports at ffa0 [size=16] Capabilities: access denied 00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 10) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: First International Computer, Inc. VA-502 Mainboard Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 I/O ports at dc00 [size=32] Capabilities: access denied 00:07.4 SMBus: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 30) Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11 Capabilities: access denied 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: VIA
Re: Jack and SB-awe soundcard
On Saturday 15 March 2008, Gary Ball wrote: Although it looks as if I'm going shopping for a new soundcard today. I'm a graphic designer, so the sound mixing element of my day isn't huge. You probably don't need something as good as the Audiophile I suggested, but if you don't mind spending the money, I still recommend going that way. I sat down to do some homework for you and try to make a recommendation for a consumer soundcard. I can't make a recommendation. I've looked around online at what people are listing in their inventories, and looked at the ALSA soundcard matrix, and it all looks pretty ugly to me. You could easily make do with what everybody has in their motherboard these days, but they no longer sell those as a card, and there are many cards around now that have problems. Don't buy anything without checking out the soundcard matrix. http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Jack and SB-awe soundcard
I have used Creative's Sound Blaster cards for as long as I've had a PC and never a problem. DOS, Winsloth and several distros of Linux. The price is right here. (I have no association with the vendor) Ray http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16829102010 D. Michael McIntyre wrote: On Saturday 15 March 2008, Gary Ball wrote: Although it looks as if I'm going shopping for a new soundcard today. I'm a graphic designer, so the sound mixing element of my day isn't huge. You probably don't need something as good as the Audiophile I suggested, but if you don't mind spending the money, I still recommend going that way. I sat down to do some homework for you and try to make a recommendation for a consumer soundcard. I can't make a recommendation. I've looked around online at what people are listing in their inventories, and looked at the ALSA soundcard matrix, and it all looks pretty ugly to me. You could easily make do with what everybody has in their motherboard these days, but they no longer sell those as a card, and there are many cards around now that have problems. Don't buy anything without checking out the soundcard matrix. http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Jack and SB-awe soundcard
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Ray Edester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used Creative's Sound Blaster cards for as long as I've had a PC and never a problem. DOS, Winsloth and several distros of Linux. The Audigy line are pretty good, and have a decent feature set. I'd recommend going for the Audigy 2 ZS, if possible, rather than the Audigy SE. Two more words: *not* X-Fi. They do not work *at all*. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
