Re: Please realize...
Karoliina Salminen wrote: > Hi, > > >> So you can see how while we would _love_ to work on the issues that are >> repeatedly brought up but... we need help. Simple. If you want to see >> the things in and around Ubuntu Studio you need to get involved. We only >> have so much time. >> > > I have been lurking around for quite as long as Ubuntu studio has > existed and have not figured out how > to be able to contribute on it other than maybe doing contributions to > software involved which I may not > have enough time. Yes. Thats one way to contribute to Ubuntu/Ubuntu Studio. Work on upstream applications. But you said you have no time. > The biggest obstacle seems currently the fact that > the audio software, particularly > midi-audio sequencers, are not in the level of maturity a musician > needs for doing music without just feeling > the pain of creativity (I struggled and tried for about 5 years and > finally decided to get a Mac as I wanted > to get rid of the xruns in the audio and wanted just a simple thing: > record without recording stopping now and > then for xrun, and play the thing back too with similar results. As a > result, after a long time for doing nothing, I have now produced > even some new music lately and also edited some my videos (which was > impossible on Linux as there is no > high definition video editing software for Linux (kino and diva don't > work because they are DV editors and > not suitable for high def (1920x1080)). No xruns and the video is full > definition, no interlace-errors, etc.). > Yes all things we see also but have no control over. Its like asking Microsoft to fix problems with Premiere. They have no control over it. > So I see, there is plenty of work to do in the Ubuntu Studio and Linux > audio/video area anyway but how much of that > is directly on the Ubuntu Studio itself is a bit unclear to me, and I > would appreciate if you could elaborate a bit more about it. > Work on upstream applications. > So please tell me some concrete thing where you would need help in > Ubuntu studio distribution itself and I might think about it. > Time permitting I would like to help if I am allowed to. My work > laptop and our living room PC are running Ubuntu Studio. > My experience is mainly on area of programming languages (C, C++, > Python) + UI toolkits (Gtk+, Qt, Clutter) + > desktop framework + multithreading & synchronization. > > Best wishes > Karoliina > --- > http://www.karoliinasalminen.com/blog > Best way to get involved is learn packaging. That is the single biggest way to improve things in Ubuntu Studio right now. Bug-fixing. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing ISO testing. https://iso.qa.stgraber.org and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/UbuntuStudioAlternate Next is documentation. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio Next is art. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork We actually do very little programing though we have a small settings app in development. And I mean small. We should be able to handle it just fine. Ubuntu Studio Controls - https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-controls -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Please realize...
This will more probably be because the kernel in Ubuntu Studio isn't the same for Ubuntu. That's why the solutions in the Ubuntu Forums won't always work, specially if they are kernel related like wifi drivers. But this doesn't mean it can't be done, just that it must be done differently in some cases. Luis de Bethencourt On Nov 27, 2007 10:04 AM, Alper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What bothers me about Ubuntu Studio is, sometimes things working for the > same version of Ubuntu may not work in Studio. For example problems I'm > having with wireless and sound. The solutions mentioned at Ubuntu Forums > seems to work for Ubuntu, but when it comes to Studio I got stuck after some > process. > > I'm in love with Ubuntu Studio. I've done a short animation movie entirely > on it which will be showed in a festival in a week. At the end I put the > name of Ubuntu Studio proudly! > > I didn't know so few people are working on it. I'd like to help in anyway. > You just lead the way. > > Alper > > > > On Nov 27, 2007 5:33 AM, D. Michael McIntyre > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Monday 26 November 2007, Christopher Stamper wrote: > > > > > So, what needs done? A list would be helpful. > > > > I expect the first thing that really needs doing is to start a list of > what > > probably needs doing, so everybody can argue about it until nobody winds > up > > doing anything. > > > > Or maybe that's just at Rosegarden. > > > > I hope. > > -- > > D. Michael McIntyre > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > -- Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá luisbg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG: B0ED1326 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Please realize...
Hi, > So you can see how while we would _love_ to work on the issues that are > repeatedly brought up but... we need help. Simple. If you want to see > the things in and around Ubuntu Studio you need to get involved. We only > have so much time. I have been lurking around for quite as long as Ubuntu studio has existed and have not figured out how to be able to contribute on it other than maybe doing contributions to software involved which I may not have enough time. The biggest obstacle seems currently the fact that the audio software, particularly midi-audio sequencers, are not in the level of maturity a musician needs for doing music without just feeling the pain of creativity (I struggled and tried for about 5 years and finally decided to get a Mac as I wanted to get rid of the xruns in the audio and wanted just a simple thing: record without recording stopping now and then for xrun, and play the thing back too with similar results. As a result, after a long time for doing nothing, I have now produced even some new music lately and also edited some my videos (which was impossible on Linux as there is no high definition video editing software for Linux (kino and diva don't work because they are DV editors and not suitable for high def (1920x1080)). No xruns and the video is full definition, no interlace-errors, etc.). So I see, there is plenty of work to do in the Ubuntu Studio and Linux audio/video area anyway but how much of that is directly on the Ubuntu Studio itself is a bit unclear to me, and I would appreciate if you could elaborate a bit more about it. So please tell me some concrete thing where you would need help in Ubuntu studio distribution itself and I might think about it. Time permitting I would like to help if I am allowed to. My work laptop and our living room PC are running Ubuntu Studio. My experience is mainly on area of programming languages (C, C++, Python) + UI toolkits (Gtk+, Qt, Clutter) + desktop framework + multithreading & synchronization. Best wishes Karoliina --- http://www.karoliinasalminen.com/blog -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Please realize...
What bothers me about Ubuntu Studio is, sometimes things working for the same version of Ubuntu may not work in Studio. For example problems I'm having with wireless and sound. The solutions mentioned at Ubuntu Forums seems to work for Ubuntu, but when it comes to Studio I got stuck after some process. I'm in love with Ubuntu Studio. I've done a short animation movie entirely on it which will be showed in a festival in a week. At the end I put the name of Ubuntu Studio proudly! I didn't know so few people are working on it. I'd like to help in anyway. You just lead the way. Alper On Nov 27, 2007 5:33 AM, D. Michael McIntyre < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 26 November 2007, Christopher Stamper wrote: > > > So, what needs done? A list would be helpful. > > I expect the first thing that really needs doing is to start a list of > what > probably needs doing, so everybody can argue about it until nobody winds > up > doing anything. > > Or maybe that's just at Rosegarden. > > I hope. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Please realize...
On Monday 26 November 2007, Christopher Stamper wrote: > So, what needs done? A list would be helpful. I expect the first thing that really needs doing is to start a list of what probably needs doing, so everybody can argue about it until nobody winds up doing anything. Or maybe that's just at Rosegarden. I hope. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Please realize...
So, what needs done? A list would be helpful. Don't have much time, but maybe something... On Nov 26, 2007 8:00 AM, gabriel moreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not a programmer, I think I can´t help you so much. But, last week I > thought about buying a Ubuntu Studio coat I saw in a photo. > But, here in Brazil I couldn´t find the coat. Gotta make one for myself. > The whole thing about the coat is to say that I am here to engage the > Ubuntu Studio team the ways I can do that. It´s to early for me to use > binaries and thing like that, but anyway I´m here for what I can help. Just > because, my midi is working well, ardour is recording fine and I spent the > last 5 months implementing Linux and learning many things with that. > Best compliments, > > > Gabriel > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > -- Christopher Stamper [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tinyurl.com/39h3eg -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Please realize...
I am not a programmer, I think I can´t help you so much. But, last week I thought about buying a Ubuntu Studio coat I saw in a photo. But, here in Brazil I couldn´t find the coat. Gotta make one for myself. The whole thing about the coat is to say that I am here to engage the Ubuntu Studio team the ways I can do that. It´s to early for me to use binaries and thing like that, but anyway I´m here for what I can help. Just because, my midi is working well, ardour is recording fine and I spent the last 5 months implementing Linux and learning many things with that. Best compliments, Gabriel -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Please realize...
*This was sent right to me and not the list. -Cory* Hey, i've been using Ubuntu studio for a few months now. Even erased windows completely. It's working great. I did not realize so few people were working on it. I don't know what i can do in a few year (who can look into the future?) but at the moment and at least until next summer i could help with ubuntu studio if you like. I'm certain i could invest one evening each week, maybe more. At critical times, like before a release, i can manage to spend every evening on it for a few weeks. What can i do? Well, i am a musician and a C++programmer, but i learned the programming by myself so there are bound to be some gaps in my education. Just recently i learned to compile my own programs with the standard Autoconf utility, and i was able to make a package as part of an experiment. So undoubtly i would need some guidance if I get involved, but maybe there are some things I can do to help. I also do not know what exactly is involved with making ubuntu studio, so maybe i could do other things than what I currently think of. I am looking forward to your answer/suggestions. Regards, yvan vander sanden -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Please realize...
On Nov 26, 2007 4:21 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > > On Sunday 25 November 2007, Cory K. wrote: > > > >> * There are only 6 or so people that really work on it. > >> > > > > Whiner. WE WANT EVERYTHING FIXED PERFECTLY AND WE WANT IT WORKING IN 32.75 > > SECONDS AND NOT A MOMENT LONGER OR WE ARE ALL GOING BACK TO > > WINDOWS > > > > WE ALSO WANT YOU TO PORT ARDOUR AND THE GIMP TO KDE IMMEDIATELY OR WE ARE > > GOING BACK TO WINDOWS > > > > DON'T MAKE US GO BACK TO WINDOWS YOU WORTHLESS LAZY PILE OF MONKEY > > DUNG11 > > AND DON'T USE A DAY JOB AS AN EXCUSE, BECASE U R ALL JST 2 LAZY 2 DO THE JOB > > CORRECT1 MUCH TO > > LAZY!!1 > > > > Oh yeah!? ***_MMA_ packs his toys and goes home. :( > > > I decided to jump in and start a "Music Notation" page on the wiki, but I > > got > > stumped immediately. I'm not sure how to flesh it out, since Gutsy doesn't > > actually include two of the things I'd like to talk about, and I don't want > > to come off as a Rosegarden fanboy. Even though I really am. > > Can't you see he is just having excuses because he is 2 LAZY 2 DO THE JOB CORRECT? pfff... 1 MUCH TO LAZY! He even doesn't try to use his day job as an excuse like in his other email. I'm going back to Amiga. > > What are you looking for? Maybe we can get it in? And talk about > Rosegarden. :) It's better than nothing. :D Or hell. Just point us to > Rosegarden documentation. Actually I'm gonna make a page for links to > upstream documentation. > > > -Cory \m/ > > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá luisbg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG: B0ED1326 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Please realize...
D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Sunday 25 November 2007, Cory K. wrote: > >> * There are only 6 or so people that really work on it. >> > > Whiner. WE WANT EVERYTHING FIXED PERFECTLY AND WE WANT IT WORKING IN 32.75 > SECONDS AND NOT A MOMENT LONGER OR WE ARE ALL GOING BACK TO > WINDOWS > > WE ALSO WANT YOU TO PORT ARDOUR AND THE GIMP TO KDE IMMEDIATELY OR WE ARE > GOING BACK TO WINDOWS > > DON'T MAKE US GO BACK TO WINDOWS YOU WORTHLESS LAZY PILE OF MONKEY > DUNG11 > AND DON'T USE A DAY JOB AS AN EXCUSE, BECASE U R ALL JST 2 LAZY 2 DO THE JOB > CORRECT1 MUCH TO > LAZY!!1 > Oh yeah!? ***_MMA_ packs his toys and goes home. :( > I decided to jump in and start a "Music Notation" page on the wiki, but I got > stumped immediately. I'm not sure how to flesh it out, since Gutsy doesn't > actually include two of the things I'd like to talk about, and I don't want > to come off as a Rosegarden fanboy. Even though I really am. > What are you looking for? Maybe we can get it in? And talk about Rosegarden. :) It's better than nothing. :D Or hell. Just point us to Rosegarden documentation. Actually I'm gonna make a page for links to upstream documentation. -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Please realize...
On Sunday 25 November 2007, Cory K. wrote: > * There are only 6 or so people that really work on it. Whiner. WE WANT EVERYTHING FIXED PERFECTLY AND WE WANT IT WORKING IN 32.75 SECONDS AND NOT A MOMENT LONGER OR WE ARE ALL GOING BACK TO WINDOWS WE ALSO WANT YOU TO PORT ARDOUR AND THE GIMP TO KDE IMMEDIATELY OR WE ARE GOING BACK TO WINDOWS DON'T MAKE US GO BACK TO WINDOWS YOU WORTHLESS LAZY PILE OF MONKEY DUNG11 AND DON'T USE A DAY JOB AS AN EXCUSE, BECASE U R ALL JST 2 LAZY 2 DO THE JOB CORRECT1 MUCH TO LAZY!!1 I decided to jump in and start a "Music Notation" page on the wiki, but I got stumped immediately. I'm not sure how to flesh it out, since Gutsy doesn't actually include two of the things I'd like to talk about, and I don't want to come off as a Rosegarden fanboy. Even though I really am. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Please realize...
Amen! On Nov 25, 2007 6:25 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There have been a couple of posts from presumably new-to-linux users > making assumptions about how things work in Ubuntu Studio/Linux. > > Now, while I will _never_ say there isn't a myriad of things that need > attention in linux in general "please realize" that linux is so > volunteer driven its crazy. > > Specific to Ubuntu Studio: > > * There are only 6 or so people that really work on it. > * 1 of which can be even remotely considered "full-time". > * The rest are students with various other demands on their schedule. > > So you can see how while we would _love_ to work on the issues that are > repeatedly brought up but... we need help. Simple. If you want to see > the things in and around Ubuntu Studio you need to get involved. We only > have so much time. > > So we will try to address things that we can handle and direct you to > places where either people can find the needed info or places where they > can get involved to help. > > -Cory \m/ > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá luisbg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG: B0ED1326 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Please realize...
Hello Cory, Thanks for you note to the list. On Nov 25, 2007 10:25 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There have been a couple of posts from presumably new-to-linux users > making assumptions about how things work in Ubuntu Studio/Linux. > > Now, while I will _never_ say there isn't a myriad of things that need > attention in linux in general "please realize" that linux is so > volunteer driven its crazy. > > Specific to Ubuntu Studio: > > * There are only 6 or so people that really work on it. > * 1 of which can be even remotely considered "full-time". > * The rest are students with various other demands on their schedule. > > So you can see how while we would _love_ to work on the issues that are > repeatedly brought up but... we need help. Simple. If you want to see > the things in and around Ubuntu Studio you need to get involved. We only > have so much time. > > So we will try to address things that we can handle and direct you to > places where either people can find the needed info or places where they > can get involved to help. > I have used Linux since the early '90s but have only been using UbuntuStudio since it came out. I will help where I can, but some of the stuff I have forgotten with age. I always read list mail to see if I can help or learn something. I have learned a lot from this list and I thank you. Peaceed Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan 4646 Glenwood Drive Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 http://doas.montanalinux.org -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
