Re: Premiere Pro
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Sergio Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 16:12 +0200, Litus Mayol i Ricart wrote: >> 2008/10/21 Rafael Chacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Litus Mayol i Ricart wrote: >> >> >> Two programs instead of one? >> Isn't there any all-in-one film editing program? >> >> >> -- >> On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 16:27 -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote: >> >> >> Stop thinking like a Windows or Mac user. Here we use the >> right tool >> for the right job. Generally in the FLOSS world, you will >> find less of >> the all in one programs, but you will find more specialized >> tools that >> excel at their task. >> >> At the end of the day does it really matter? I know that I >> care about >> getting the job done. >> >> -- >> From: Sergio Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion >> >> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 4:58:41 PM >> Subject: Re: Premiere Pro >> >> Closed source applications have the tendency to close the door >> to other >> products so that users aren't free to choose the best tool >> from other >> vendors for the job. >> >> Linux developers, on the other hand, favor interoperability at >> a high >> degree. The audio routing system is a major example: you can >> chain audio >> application so that a signal can flow from an an app to the >> other >> freely, with enormous flexibility. >> >> The same applies to video, text, command outputs and so on. >> You can pipe >> data at your wish, filter it, elaborate it through the best >> tools >> around. >> >> Having to use more than an application is not a weakness: it's >> added >> value. >> >> Sergio >> >> -- >> For some users: "Simplicity is the name of the game". I mean: >> "I do not want to be a programmer or a software expert to >> take advantage of a computer. In those terms, I prefer a >> "wizard" that helps me to a quick start in a home video >> production instead to study days or months to become an expert >> in a specialized tool and... continue to study to become an an >> expert in an other specialized tool and so on.. to get the job >> done." >> >> I do not deny --if video is my hobby-- I will take that path >> (and very interested in learning in all related tools --that >> is the reason I am here--) and I agree with Gustin and Sergio. >> But, if you are a beginner or you have little time to get the >> job done, a "good-enough-tool" that does all-in-one probably >> is the best solution. I did this comment because for a >> beginner in Linux (like me) it is very hard the first steps >> when you come from a "few-clicks-world" to get the job done. >> >> __ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection >> around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list >> Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users >> >> >> I'm a total newbie just now. But I'm not learning to use it as a >> hobby, it's my futur. So probably I'll choose the difficult way. >> Diferent programs, more exact tools. >> >> That's the way it works...! >> >> Thanks anyway to everybody! >> > > So, good luck, and have a nice time with linux! > >> -- >> Carles Mayol i Ricart >> >> Rocker, socialdemocrata, independentista, culé, republicà, ubuntaire i >> catòlic >> ~-AMANI→[ser la 6a part d'alguna cosa] > -- > Sergio Bello - Software Architect > > Sintechno S.r.l. [www.sintechno.it] > > Via Dante, 188 > 26100 - Cremona (ITALY) > > Phone 0372 22942 > Fax 0372 565287 > Mobile 329 9499343 &
Re: Premiere Pro
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 16:12 +0200, Litus Mayol i Ricart wrote: > 2008/10/21 Rafael Chacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Litus Mayol i Ricart wrote: > > > Two programs instead of one? > Isn't there any all-in-one film editing program? > > > -- > On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 16:27 -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote: > > > Stop thinking like a Windows or Mac user. Here we use the > right tool > for the right job. Generally in the FLOSS world, you will > find less of > the all in one programs, but you will find more specialized > tools that > excel at their task. > > At the end of the day does it really matter? I know that I > care about > getting the job done. > > -- > From: Sergio Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 4:58:41 PM > Subject: Re: Premiere Pro > > Closed source applications have the tendency to close the door > to other > products so that users aren't free to choose the best tool > from other > vendors for the job. > > Linux developers, on the other hand, favor interoperability at > a high > degree. The audio routing system is a major example: you can > chain audio > application so that a signal can flow from an an app to the > other > freely, with enormous flexibility. > > The same applies to video, text, command outputs and so on. > You can pipe > data at your wish, filter it, elaborate it through the best > tools > around. > > Having to use more than an application is not a weakness: it's > added > value. > > Sergio > > -- > For some users: "Simplicity is the name of the game". I mean: > "I do not want to be a programmer or a software expert to > take advantage of a computer. In those terms, I prefer a > "wizard" that helps me to a quick start in a home video > production instead to study days or months to become an expert > in a specialized tool and... continue to study to become an an > expert in an other specialized tool and so on.. to get the job > done." > > I do not deny --if video is my hobby-- I will take that path > (and very interested in learning in all related tools --that > is the reason I am here--) and I agree with Gustin and Sergio. > But, if you are a beginner or you have little time to get the > job done, a "good-enough-tool" that does all-in-one probably > is the best solution. I did this comment because for a > beginner in Linux (like me) it is very hard the first steps > when you come from a "few-clicks-world" to get the job done. > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection > around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > I'm a total newbie just now. But I'm not learning to use it as a > hobby, it's my futur. So probably I'll choose the difficult way. > Diferent programs, more exact tools. > > That's the way it works...! > > Thanks anyway to everybody! > So, good luck, and have a nice time with linux! > -- > Carles Mayol i Ricart > > Rocker, socialdemocrata, independentista, culé, republicà, ubuntaire i > catòlic > ~-AMANI→[ser la 6a part d'alguna cosa] -- Sergio Bello - Software Architect Sintechno S.r.l. [www.sintechno.it] Via Dante, 188 26100 - Cremona (ITALY) Phone 0372 22942 Fax 0372 565287 Mobile 329 9499343 EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't... -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Premiere Pro
2008/10/21 Rafael Chacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Litus Mayol i Ricart wrote: > > > Two programs instead of one? > Isn't there any all-in-one film editing program? > > -- > On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 16:27 -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote: > > Stop thinking like a Windows or Mac user. Here we use the right tool > for the right job. Generally in the FLOSS world, you will find less of > the all in one programs, but you will find more specialized tools that > excel at their task. > > At the end of the day does it really matter? I know that I care about > getting the job done. > -- > From: Sergio Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion < > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 4:58:41 PM > Subject: Re: Premiere Pro > > Closed source applications have the tendency to close the door to other > products so that users aren't free to choose the best tool from other > vendors for the job. > > Linux developers, on the other hand, favor interoperability at a high > degree. The audio routing system is a major example: you can chain audio > application so that a signal can flow from an an app to the other > freely, with enormous flexibility. > > The same applies to video, text, command outputs and so on. You can pipe > data at your wish, filter it, elaborate it through the best tools > around. > > Having to use more than an application is not a weakness: it's added > value. > > Sergio > -- > For some users: "Simplicity is the name of the game". I mean: "I do not > want to be a programmer or a software expert to take advantage of a > computer. In those terms, I prefer a "wizard" that helps me to a quick start > in a home video production instead to study days or months to become an > expert in a specialized tool and... continue to study to become an an expert > in an other specialized tool and so on.. to get the job done." > > I do not deny --if video is my hobby-- I will take that path (and very > interested in learning in all related tools --that is the reason I am > here--) and I agree with Gustin and Sergio. But, if you are a beginner or > you have little time to get the job done, a "good-enough-tool" that does > all-in-one probably is the best solution. I did this comment because for a > beginner in Linux (like me) it is very hard the first steps when you come > from a "few-clicks-world" to get the job done. > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > I'm a total newbie just now. But I'm not learning to use it as a hobby, it's my futur. So probably I'll choose the difficult way. Diferent programs, more exact tools. That's the way it works...! Thanks anyway to everybody! -- Carles Mayol i Ricart Rocker, socialdemocrata, independentista, culé, republicà, ubuntaire i catòlic ~-AMANI→[ser la 6a part d'alguna cosa] -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Premiere Pro
Litus Mayol i Ricart wrote: Two programs instead of one? Isn't there any all-in-one film editing program? -- On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 16:27 -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote: Stop thinking like a Windows or Mac user. Here we use the right tool for the right job. Generally in the FLOSS world, you will find less of the all in one programs, but you will find more specialized tools that excel at their task. At the end of the day does it really matter? I know that I care about getting the job done. -- From: Sergio Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 4:58:41 PM Subject: Re: Premiere Pro Closed source applications have the tendency to close the door to other products so that users aren't free to choose the best tool from other vendors for the job. Linux developers, on the other hand, favor interoperability at a high degree. The audio routing system is a major example: you can chain audio application so that a signal can flow from an an app to the other freely, with enormous flexibility. The same applies to video, text, command outputs and so on. You can pipe data at your wish, filter it, elaborate it through the best tools around. Having to use more than an application is not a weakness: it's added value. Sergio -- For some users: "Simplicity is the name of the game". I mean: "I do not want to be a programmer or a software expert to take advantage of a computer. In those terms, I prefer a "wizard" that helps me to a quick start in a home video production instead to study days or months to become an expert in a specialized tool and... continue to study to become an an expert in an other specialized tool and so on.. to get the job done." I do not deny --if video is my hobby-- I will take that path (and very interested in learning in all related tools --that is the reason I am here--) and I agree with Gustin and Sergio. But, if you are a beginner or you have little time to get the job done, a "good-enough-tool" that does all-in-one probably is the best solution. I did this comment because for a beginner in Linux (like me) it is very hard the first steps when you come from a "few-clicks-world" to get the job done. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Premiere Pro
Closed source applications have the tendency to close the door to other products so that users aren't free to choose the best tool from other vendors for the job. Linux developers, on the other hand, favor interoperability at a high degree. The audio routing system is a major example: you can chain audio application so that a signal can flow from an an app to the other freely, with enormous flexibility. The same applies to video, text, command outputs and so on. You can pipe data at your wish, filter it, elaborate it through the best tools around. Having to use more than an application is not a weakness: it's added value. Sergio On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 16:27 -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Litus Mayol i Ricart wrote: > > > > Two programs instead of one? > > Isn't there any all-in-one film editing program? > > Stop thinking like a Windows or Mac user. Here we use the right tool > for the right job. Generally in the FLOSS world, you will find less of > the all in one programs, but you will find more specialized tools that > excel at their task. > > At the end of the day does it really matter? I know that I care about > getting the job done. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFI/QXiwRXgH3rKGfMRAjp1AJwKmq7O31ar3MJIESvAmwfM3n4LyQCeJJy9 > D5RjfZIR5FHJ1WnK6OGzKg0= > =lct+ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > -- Sergio Bello - Software Architect Sintechno S.r.l. [www.sintechno.it] Via Dante, 188 26100 - Cremona (ITALY) Phone 0372 22942 Fax 0372 565287 Mobile 329 9499343 EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't... -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Premiere Pro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Litus Mayol i Ricart wrote: > > Two programs instead of one? > Isn't there any all-in-one film editing program? Stop thinking like a Windows or Mac user. Here we use the right tool for the right job. Generally in the FLOSS world, you will find less of the all in one programs, but you will find more specialized tools that excel at their task. At the end of the day does it really matter? I know that I care about getting the job done. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI/QXiwRXgH3rKGfMRAjp1AJwKmq7O31ar3MJIESvAmwfM3n4LyQCeJJy9 D5RjfZIR5FHJ1WnK6OGzKg0= =lct+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Premiere Pro
2008/10/19 simone-www. io-lab. org <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > i ve recently and happily used kdenlive for editing, avidemux for > format switch and > qdvdauthor or varsha for authoring > Simone > > 2008/10/18 Litus Mayol i Ricart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi mates! > > > > I'm studying an audiovisual degree. Now I'm starting to use "Premier Pro" > > for editing films. I would like to know if there's any program there that > > can do the same. I've heard about Cinelarra but if there's any other I'd > > like to know it, in the purpose of test a pair of programs, compare and > then > > decide which one I prefer. > > > > Does anyone know any other film editing program? > > > > Thanks! > > -- > > Carles Mayol i Ricart > > > > Rocker, socialdemocrata, independentista, culé, republicà, ubuntaire i > > catòlic > > ~-AMANI→[ser la 6a part d'alguna cosa] > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > > > > > > -- > .wmv , .wma , .pps along with all proprietary Windows formats won t be > accepted and/or viewed > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > Two programs instead of one? Isn't there any all-in-one film editing program? *-- Carles Mayol i Ricart* Rocker, socialdemocrata, independentista, culé, republicà, ubuntaire i catòlic *~-AMANI→[ser la 6a part d'alguna cosa]* -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Premiere Pro
i ve recently and happily used kdenlive for editing, avidemux for format switch and qdvdauthor or varsha for authoring Simone 2008/10/18 Litus Mayol i Ricart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi mates! > > I'm studying an audiovisual degree. Now I'm starting to use "Premier Pro" > for editing films. I would like to know if there's any program there that > can do the same. I've heard about Cinelarra but if there's any other I'd > like to know it, in the purpose of test a pair of programs, compare and then > decide which one I prefer. > > Does anyone know any other film editing program? > > Thanks! > -- > Carles Mayol i Ricart > > Rocker, socialdemocrata, independentista, culé, republicà, ubuntaire i > catòlic > ~-AMANI→[ser la 6a part d'alguna cosa] > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > -- .wmv , .wma , .pps along with all proprietary Windows formats won t be accepted and/or viewed -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
