Re: Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[Brian David]

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:58 PM,  wrote:

> On Apr 27, 2009 1:49pm, Hartmut Noack  wrote:
> >
> >
> > same here with the Presonus Firebox. The same with Suse111 with the
> >
> > jengelh-rt-Kernel (that performs just great with my cheapo USB-interface
> >
> > a.t.o.h)
> >
> >
> >
> > very well: looks like its Linux itself. Anyone out there running any
> >
> > FW-interface successfully on a recent distro?
> >
> >
> >
> > HZN
> >
>
> I've been running a Presonus Firepod with no problems on my first
> generation MacBook using Hardy for many months. I was actually surprised at
> how well it worked. I was getting better performance out of it than I would
> in Cubase using OS X.
>
> The Firepod is also working on Jaunty on my desktop, but it's a bit more
> problematic, due mostly to the limitations of the computer itself. Ever
> since upgrading to Jaunty on my Macbook, I have been unable to get the
> firewire permissions worked out. Everything seems to be set fine, but JACK
> just refuses to start and spits out that 'FIFO priority -10" message, or
> whatever it is, that is usually given when the limits.conf file isn't set
> correctly. I can't figure out why. When I do, though, I'll let you know how
> firewire is working in Jaunty on the Macbook. These permissions are going to
> be the death of me. Can' wait for that new firewire stack people have
> mentioned to be incorporated.
>
> -Brian



Just a quick follow up to that last post, I finally solved my permissions
problems.  I had to go to System > Administration > Users and Groups, select
myself on the list, hit 'Properties', select the 'User Privileges' tab, and
pretty much check everything on there.  This in addition to adjusting the
Ubuntu Studio Controls settings as well as creating a 'video' group and
putting myself in it.  It's odd behaviour that I did not need to do on my
desktop.

So, I got JACK working and messed around in Ardour with some live recordings
I had done recently, and ran into some real problems, which I'll have to do
a write up on later.  Suffice it to say that the real-time kernel  running
on my Macbook was very shaky.  But Jaunty as a whole is turning out to be
real shaky, I might need to go back to Hardy for a few weeks until some of
the bugs (in particularly, some crazy issues with the brightness controls)
are worked out.

Keep trucking, though!  It's coming along, and the work you all are doing is
awesome.
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Re: Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[beejunk]

On Apr 27, 2009 1:49pm, Hartmut Noack  wrote:



same here with the Presonus Firebox. The same with Suse111 with the



jengelh-rt-Kernel (that performs just great with my cheapo USB-interface



atoh)





very well: looks like its Linux itself. Anyone out there running any



FW-interface successfully on a recent distro?





HZN



I've been running a Presonus Firepod with no problems on my first  
generation MacBook using Hardy for many months. I was actually surprised at  
how well it worked. I was getting better performance out of it than I would  
in Cubase using OS X.


The Firepod is also working on Jaunty on my desktop, but it's a bit more  
problematic, due mostly to the limitations of the computer itself. Ever  
since upgrading to Jaunty on my Macbook, I have been unable to get the  
firewire permissions worked out. Everything seems to be set fine, but JACK  
just refuses to start and spits out that 'FIFO priority -10" message, or  
whatever it is, that is usually given when the limits.conf file isn't set  
correctly. I can't figure out why. When I do, though, I'll let you know how  
firewire is working in Jaunty on the Macbook. These permissions are going  
to be the death of me. Can' wait for that new firewire stack people have  
mentioned to be incorporated.


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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

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mac schrieb:

>>
>  While I agree Ardour is not broken, something is.

I must confirm this. The Ardour-Package works OK. The same as the
ArdourSVN-Snapshot I build last week. But the overall performance of
jack is not much better than running the Standard-Kernel, only the
rt-kernel freezes the system from time to time ...


> I just installed UB Studio Jaunty. Adjusted things so I could actually
> run Jack & ffado.
> 
> Then started Ardour and began recording. Jack crashed after about 19
> minutes.

same here with the Presonus Firebox. The same with Suse111 with the
jengelh-rt-Kernel (that performs just great with my cheapo USB-interface
a.t.o.h)

very well: looks like its Linux itself. Anyone out there running any
FW-interface successfully on a recent distro?

HZN
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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[Christopher Stamper]

On Sunday, April 26, 2009, Cory K.  wrote:
> Yes. Skipping releases is *not* recommended. Really, I'd back up the
> important parts of my home dir and do a clean install

I would recommend the same. Upgrade installs have just too many
problems. There's just nothing like a clean install.

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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[Eric Hedekar]

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:28 AM, mac  wrote:

> On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 09:21 -0500, Brian David wrote:
> > Yeah, I realized that I wrote my statements a bit too broadly up
> > there,  so just to make sure no one reads what I said and starts to
> > worry, Ardour IS NOT BROKEN.  I have issues with the Ubuntu maintained
> > Ardour package, but that's just with my personal set up, and even then
> > it's a fairly easily fixed issue.
> >
>

It'd still be nice to know what you mean by that.  What doesn't work with
your setup?


>
>  While I agree Ardour is not broken, something is.
>
> I just installed UB Studio Jaunty. Adjusted things so I could actually
> run Jack & ffado.
>
> Then started Ardour and began recording. Jack crashed after about 19
> minutes.
>
>
What did you adjust to run Jack & FFADO?  Was it just by using Ubuntu Studio
Controls to enable raw1394 access?

-Eric


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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[mac]

On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 09:21 -0500, Brian David wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:46 AM, laurent.bellegarde
>  wrote:
> Michael Sullivan a écrit :
> >> Thanks for the advice, Scott, I'm actually going to try to
> do this
> >> with the release of Jaunty, now that I feel more
> comfortable with
> >> Linux in general. At the moment, I can't use Ubuntu Studio
> properly
> >> for my production machine because of the somewhat broken
> state of the
> >> Ubuntu Ardour packages. So I'm going to set up one Jaunty
> regular
> >> partition, and one Studio partition so that I can continue
> testing
> >> Studio and hopefully help out in its development in any way
> I can.
> >>
> > Is Ardour in 9.04 broken??  I guess I don't know what
> "somewhat broken"
> > implies.  If it is broken, there are going to be a lot of
> sad people!
> >
> >
> 
> hi Michael.
> 
> Ardour 2.7 in jaunty 9.04 is not broken and works perfectly
> with the new
> RT kernel.
> 
> *SNIP* 
> 
> Laurent
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yeah, I realized that I wrote my statements a bit too broadly up
> there,  so just to make sure no one reads what I said and starts to
> worry, Ardour IS NOT BROKEN.  I have issues with the Ubuntu maintained
> Ardour package, but that's just with my personal set up, and even then
> it's a fairly easily fixed issue.
> 
 While I agree Ardour is not broken, something is.

I just installed UB Studio Jaunty. Adjusted things so I could actually
run Jack & ffado.

Then started Ardour and began recording. Jack crashed after about 19
minutes.




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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[Brian David]

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:46 AM, laurent.bellegarde <
laurent.bellega...@free.fr> wrote:

> Michael Sullivan a écrit :
> >> Thanks for the advice, Scott, I'm actually going to try to do this
> >> with the release of Jaunty, now that I feel more comfortable with
> >> Linux in general. At the moment, I can't use Ubuntu Studio properly
> >> for my production machine because of the somewhat broken state of the
> >> Ubuntu Ardour packages. So I'm going to set up one Jaunty regular
> >> partition, and one Studio partition so that I can continue testing
> >> Studio and hopefully help out in its development in any way I can.
> >>
> > Is Ardour in 9.04 broken??  I guess I don't know what "somewhat broken"
> > implies.  If it is broken, there are going to be a lot of sad people!
> >
> >
> hi Michael.
>
> Ardour 2.7 in jaunty 9.04 is not broken and works perfectly with the new
> RT kernel.
>
> *SNIP*


> Laurent
>  
>

Yeah, I realized that I wrote my statements a bit too broadly up there,  so
just to make sure no one reads what I said and starts to worry, Ardour IS
NOT BROKEN.  I have issues with the Ubuntu maintained Ardour package, but
that's just with my personal set up, and even then it's a fairly easily
fixed issue.


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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[Cory K.]

Gustin Johnson wrote:
> Michael Sullivan a wrote: 
>   
>> Just to clarify, I want to go from Ubuntu Studio 8.04 to Ubuntu Studio 
>> 9.04... without a clean install if possible.
>>
>> 
> Upgrade to 8.10, then upgrade to 9.04. You can only skip intermediate 
> releases if you are moving from LTS to LTS.

Yes. Skipping releases is *not* recommended. Really, I'd back up the
important parts of my home dir and do a clean install.


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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

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Michael Sullivan wrote:

>> -- 
>> -Brian David
> To further add to my confusion, now it seems like the update manager 
> wants to upgrade 464 packages even though the DVD isn't in the drive and 
> I have tossed the iso from the hard drive.  Is this because I downloaded 
> 9.04 or is everyone else on 8.04 getting similar messages?  I looked 
> into it a bit, and update manager wants to remove quite a few packages 
> (120 IIRC) so I really don't want to mess things up with my current 
> setup, but worry that any security updates might force me to.   I have 
> only used Ubuntu Studio since 8.04 but used Debian for years and haven't 
> run into anything like this since running Debian unstable  5 years or so 
> ago
> 
Sure you did, unstable was always a little challenging.  At least with
debian you would only upgrade releases two or three times in a decade :)
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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

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Michael Sullivan wrote:
> Just to clarify, I want to go from Ubuntu Studio 8.04 to Ubuntu Studio 
> 9.04... without a clean install if possible.
> 
Upgrade to 8.10, then upgrade to 9.04.  You can only skip intermediate
releases if you are moving from LTS to LTS.

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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[laurent.bellegarde]

Michael Sullivan a écrit :
>> Thanks for the advice, Scott, I'm actually going to try to do this 
>> with the release of Jaunty, now that I feel more comfortable with 
>> Linux in general. At the moment, I can't use Ubuntu Studio properly 
>> for my production machine because of the somewhat broken state of the 
>> Ubuntu Ardour packages. So I'm going to set up one Jaunty regular 
>> partition, and one Studio partition so that I can continue testing 
>> Studio and hopefully help out in its development in any way I can. 
>> 
> Is Ardour in 9.04 broken??  I guess I don't know what "somewhat broken" 
> implies.  If it is broken, there are going to be a lot of sad people!
>
>   
hi Michael.

Ardour 2.7 in jaunty 9.04 is not broken and works perfectly with the new 
RT kernel.

I think (not sure) that hardy directly to jaunty is impossible.

Even you have an RT kernel under hardy, you can upgrade first to 
intrepid and then to jaunty.

here is the way you should do this (backup your important works and 
files in an external usb-drive  to keep them alive for safety)

under hardy, reboot on the generic kernel, not the RT one, and 
update/dist-upgrade your hardy completly.

Then, change your sources.list file to upgrade to intrepid, and with 
theses commands lines, do the upgrade.

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

when the upgrade is finish, reboot only on generic kernel to get back to 
intrepid desktop.

change your sources.list again to upgrade to jaunty without launching 
any programs, as it is said few lines before.

When the upgrade has been done, reboot on generic kernel to insure 
everything is good. Have a look to synaptic to see if linuxrt package is 
installed, if not, do it.

Reboot and use the arrow keyboard under grub to choose RT jaunty to 
boot, now you're under Jaunty RT.

I've done this, upgrading using the generic kernel works, and the RT 
kernel is going to be installed if you starting from hardy.

even the upgrade is not very well done, never forget that the important 
and personnal files are keep safe on the hard disk and that you can get 
them by using an external usb drive/key (large one) by using jaunty 
ubuntu live CD which can mount internal HD and external devices.

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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[Michael Sullivan]

beej...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 25, 2009 7:43pm, Scott  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'd like to chime in here and suggest something that may help people 
> in the future.
> >
> > Linux partitioning is quite robust and provides a great opportunity 
> to do seamless
> >
> > upgrades.  If you create two 10-20GB partitions at the front of your 
> volume and leave
> >
> > the rest for '/home/' (minus a couple GB for swap at the end) you 
> can do system
> >
> > upgrades without breaking your previous setup.
> >
> >
> >
> > I alternate releases between the two 20GB '/' partitions and always 
> set my '/home/'
> >
> > and 'swap' to the same partition leaving it untouched.  That way I 
> can comfortably
> >
> > test or upgrade new releases without breaking my production system 
> while having access
> >
> > to the same settings and data.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you went with the default 'everything in "/"' install, you can 
> use gparted from a
> >
> > live CD or USB-boot to adjust your existing partitions to 
> accommodate the method
> >
> > above.  As always, backup first if adjusting partitions isn't in 
> your blood and make
> >
> > sure you have enough room when you resize.  YMMV
> >
> >
> >
> > -Scott
> >
>
> Thanks for the advice, Scott, I'm actually going to try to do this 
> with the release of Jaunty, now that I feel more comfortable with 
> Linux in general. At the moment, I can't use Ubuntu Studio properly 
> for my production machine because of the somewhat broken state of the 
> Ubuntu Ardour packages. So I'm going to set up one Jaunty regular 
> partition, and one Studio partition so that I can continue testing 
> Studio and hopefully help out in its development in any way I can. 
Is Ardour in 9.04 broken??  I guess I don't know what "somewhat broken" 
implies.  If it is broken, there are going to be a lot of sad people!

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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[Michael Sullivan]

Brian David wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Michael Sullivan  > wrote:
>
> Yes, with the DVD in the drive it says that there are 464 packages
> that
> I can install, when I click on the icon to start the update
> manager, it
> comes up, but then a warning comes up saying that not all updates
> can be
> installed.  When I look at the package list, many of the main audio
> packages are not checked - like for example, Ardour (main reason
> for the
> upgrade!) so I'm a bit confused.  Is this one of those situations
> where
> the upgrade has to be done in several passes or what?   The vanilla
> ubuntu documentation says you cannot to a direct upgrade from 8.04 -
> 9.04, but with Kubuntu you can - hence the confusion and the
> question
>
>
> Christian Masser wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > No, you don't need to to a clean install. When you put in the CD
> while
> > running 8.04 there should be a message, that a new version has been
> > found or something like that, there you can do a system upgrade to
> > 9.04 directly.
> >
> > 2009/4/25 Michael Sullivan    >>
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I just downloaded the alternate iso for 9.04 and wanted to
> know if
> > I can
> > upgrade directly from Ubuntu Studio 8.04. I avoided 8.10
> because of no
> > RT kernel, but does that mean that I have to do a clean
> install (which
> > would be a real pain in the ass)?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
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> I can't seem to find it in my mail archives at the moment, but I seem 
> to remember that this issue was discussed before and at that time it 
> was said that upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04 would NOT be supported, so 
> you'd have to upgrade to Intrepid first and then to Jaunty, or just do 
> a clean install.  However, an upgrade between LTS releases (such as 
> Hardy to Karmic) would be supported.
>
> -- 
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To further add to my confusion, now it seems like the update manager 
wants to upgrade 464 packages even though the DVD isn't in the drive and 
I have tossed the iso from the hard drive.  Is this because I downloaded 
9.04 or is everyone else on 8.04 getting similar messages?  I looked 
into it a bit, and update manager wants to remove quite a few packages 
(120 IIRC) so I really don't want to mess things up with my current 
setup, but worry that any security updates might force me to.   I have 
only used Ubuntu Studio since 8.04 but used Debian for years and haven't 
run into anything like this since running Debian unstable  5 years or so 
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Re: Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

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On Apr 25, 2009 7:43pm, Scott  wrote:


I'd like to chime in here and suggest something that may help people in  
the future.


Linux partitioning is quite robust and provides a great opportunity to do  
seamless


upgrades. If you create two 10-20GB partitions at the front of your  
volume and leave


the rest for '/home/' (minus a couple GB for swap at the end) you can do  
system



upgrades without breaking your previous setup.




I alternate releases between the two 20GB '/' partitions and always set  
my '/home/'


and 'swap' to the same partition leaving it untouched. That way I can  
comfortably


test or upgrade new releases without breaking my production system while  
having access



to the same settings and data.




If you went with the default 'everything in "/"' install, you can use  
gparted from a


live CD or USB-boot to adjust your existing partitions to accommodate the  
method


above. As always, backup first if adjusting partitions isn't in your  
blood and make



sure you have enough room when you resize. YMMV





-Scott



Thanks for the advice, Scott, I'm actually going to try to do this with the  
release of Jaunty, now that I feel more comfortable with Linux in general.  
At the moment, I can't use Ubuntu Studio properly for my production machine  
because of the somewhat broken state of the Ubuntu Ardour packages. So I'm  
going to set up one Jaunty regular partition, and one Studio partition so  
that I can continue testing Studio and hopefully help out in its  
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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[Scott]

Brian David wrote:
> I can't seem to find it in my mail archives at the moment, but I seem to 
> remember
> that this issue was discussed before and at that time it was said that 
> upgrading
> from 8.04 to 9.04 would NOT be supported, so you'd have to upgrade to Intrepid
> first and then to Jaunty, or just do a clean install.  However, an upgrade 
> between
> LTS releases (such as Hardy to Karmic) would be supported.

I'd like to chime in here and suggest something that may help people in the 
future.
Linux partitioning is quite robust and provides a great opportunity to do 
seamless
upgrades.  If you create two 10-20GB partitions at the front of your volume and 
leave
the rest for '/home/' (minus a couple GB for swap at the end) you can do system
upgrades without breaking your previous setup.

I alternate releases between the two 20GB '/' partitions and always set my 
'/home/' 
and 'swap' to the same partition leaving it untouched.  That way I can 
comfortably 
test or upgrade new releases without breaking my production system while having 
access 
to the same settings and data.

If you went with the default 'everything in "/"' install, you can use gparted 
from a
live CD or USB-boot to adjust your existing partitions to accommodate the method
above.  As always, backup first if adjusting partitions isn't in your blood and 
make
sure you have enough room when you resize.  YMMV

-Scott


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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[Brian David]

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Michael Sullivan  wrote:

> Yes, with the DVD in the drive it says that there are 464 packages that
> I can install, when I click on the icon to start the update manager, it
> comes up, but then a warning comes up saying that not all updates can be
> installed.  When I look at the package list, many of the main audio
> packages are not checked - like for example, Ardour (main reason for the
> upgrade!) so I'm a bit confused.  Is this one of those situations where
> the upgrade has to be done in several passes or what?   The vanilla
> ubuntu documentation says you cannot to a direct upgrade from 8.04 -
> 9.04, but with Kubuntu you can - hence the confusion and the question
>
>
> Christian Masser wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > No, you don't need to to a clean install. When you put in the CD while
> > running 8.04 there should be a message, that a new version has been
> > found or something like that, there you can do a system upgrade to
> > 9.04 directly.
> >
> > 2009/4/25 Michael Sullivan mailto:gar...@wi.rr.com>>
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I just downloaded the alternate iso for 9.04 and wanted to know if
> > I can
> > upgrade directly from Ubuntu Studio 8.04. I avoided 8.10 because of
> no
> > RT kernel, but does that mean that I have to do a clean install
> (which
> > would be a real pain in the ass)?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
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I can't seem to find it in my mail archives at the moment, but I seem to
remember that this issue was discussed before and at that time it was said
that upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04 would NOT be supported, so you'd have to
upgrade to Intrepid first and then to Jaunty, or just do a clean install.
However, an upgrade between LTS releases (such as Hardy to Karmic) would be
supported.

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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[Michael Sullivan]

Yes, with the DVD in the drive it says that there are 464 packages that 
I can install, when I click on the icon to start the update manager, it 
comes up, but then a warning comes up saying that not all updates can be 
installed.  When I look at the package list, many of the main audio 
packages are not checked - like for example, Ardour (main reason for the 
upgrade!) so I'm a bit confused.  Is this one of those situations where 
the upgrade has to be done in several passes or what?   The vanilla 
ubuntu documentation says you cannot to a direct upgrade from 8.04 - 
9.04, but with Kubuntu you can - hence the confusion and the question


Christian Masser wrote:
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>
> No, you don't need to to a clean install. When you put in the CD while 
> running 8.04 there should be a message, that a new version has been 
> found or something like that, there you can do a system upgrade to 
> 9.04 directly.
>
> 2009/4/25 Michael Sullivan mailto:gar...@wi.rr.com>>
>
> Hi
>
> I just downloaded the alternate iso for 9.04 and wanted to know if
> I can
> upgrade directly from Ubuntu Studio 8.04. I avoided 8.10 because of no
> RT kernel, but does that mean that I have to do a clean install (which
> would be a real pain in the ass)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[Kjel Anderson]

Michael,

I don't know the answer to your question, but I waited for the same
reason, and I am having problems getting the realtime kernel to boot.
I've added my info to a bug report at:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/366352

Just a heads up.

Kjel



On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Michael Sullivan  wrote:
> Hi
>
> I just downloaded the alternate iso for 9.04 and wanted to know if I can
> upgrade directly from Ubuntu Studio 8.04. I avoided 8.10 because of no
> RT kernel, but does that mean that I have to do a clean install (which
> would be a real pain in the ass)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[Michael Sullivan]

Just to clarify, I want to go from Ubuntu Studio 8.04 to Ubuntu Studio 
9.04... without a clean install if possible.

Michael Sullivan wrote:
> Hi
>
> I just downloaded the alternate iso for 9.04 and wanted to know if I can 
> upgrade directly from Ubuntu Studio 8.04. I avoided 8.10 because of no 
> RT kernel, but does that mean that I have to do a clean install (which 
> would be a real pain in the ass)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>   


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Re: Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 upgrade

[Christian Masser]

Hi

No, you don't need to to a clean install. When you put in the CD while
running 8.04 there should be a message, that a new version has been found or
something like that, there you can do a system upgrade to 9.04 directly.

2009/4/25 Michael Sullivan 

> Hi
>
> I just downloaded the alternate iso for 9.04 and wanted to know if I can
> upgrade directly from Ubuntu Studio 8.04. I avoided 8.10 because of no
> RT kernel, but does that mean that I have to do a clean install (which
> would be a real pain in the ass)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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