Re: usb/midi adapter - which ones work well?
Great, and you didn't require drivers for the pcicard?, then there should be no problem :), thx. On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Beldon Dominello bel...@ourbrokenhome.comwrote: I have an M-Audio Delta 1010, which uses a PCI card to interface with the audio/MIDI connector and it's worked out of the box with no additional drivers required (although the unit was installed when I first installed UBS). M-Audio releases their drivers through a third party, but they are true OEM drivers. -=Beldon On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 14:15 +1300, Atom Smasher wrote: i could be wrong here, someone feel free to jump in and correct what i think i've found... it seems like the m-audio (2x2, 4x4) adapters work, but require drivers that aren't supported by the manufacturer. it seems like the tapco link.midi 4x4 works out of the box, and the street price is close to (or less than) the m-audio 2x2. it also seems a little bit tougher (recessed front/rear panels, rubber padding) and a little better designed, overall (different color LEDs for input/output/power, kensington lock hole). of course, i'm just looking at pictures on the 'net, so i could be off by a tad ;) ideologically, i'm also leaning towards the mackie because it seems to just work. i'd rather spend my money with a company that's following standards, rather than a company that uses proprietary drivers and merely tolerates linux users developing an independent driver, with no company support (if i understand it correctly). it even looks like the tapco firmware upgrades are just a sysex file... so i wouldn't expect any problems using amidi to upgrade the firmware. that's actually two points they've scored; in addition to using sysex for upgrades, they have upgrades!! like i said, this is based on a few minutes googling, and may not accurately reflect reality. if anyone can comment on these (or other!) usb/midi adapters... please do... thanks... -- ...atom http://atom.smasher.org/ 762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808 - The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him. -- George dubya Bush, 13 Sep 2001 I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority. -- George dubya Bush, 13 Mar 2002 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: usb/midi adapter - which ones work well?
Hey Rob, Others here know the answers to your questions with certainty, but I'll tell you what I think based on my research so far. I'm pretty sure that you will need a driver for the expresscard. If you're lucky (or smart and look into it before you buy) you'll get a card that is supported by the FFADO driver - a free FW driver for Linux. Check the list of supported devices here: www.ffado.org to see if any card you're looking at is supported, and if so at what level. I too am thinking of getting a new Linux laptop (switching from a Mac) and find that most of them do not have FW ports. Since FW support is sketchy at best, and since the ALSA site (http://www.alsa- project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page) suggests that any standards compliant USB audio interface will work with the ALSA driver, I'm wondering why anyone would use FW over USB 2.0. The only reason I would is that I already have 2 FW audio interfaces. But I would sell one and get a USB interface if it worked with Linux (neither of my FW interfaces are supported by FFADO; one actually doesn't even work with my G4 Macs, but that's another story). In your case, if you have to go buy an audio interface of some kind anyway, I would check into USB interfaces. M-Audio has one that looks pretty good on paper (or display, as the case may be) - Fast Track Ultra something: http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/-Fast-Track-Ultra-8R-USB- Interface?sku=482555 And to comment on the original post below; I'm going to see if I can find out whether Mackie is supportive (either actively and/or philosophically) of a Linux driver (or at least providing sufficient info to FFADO) for the Onyx 400F firewire interface. This is the one I have that has never worked with my G4's - though I think they have a new driver release that I have yet to try. Needless to say I have not had a good experience with either Mackie or Apple concerning this device - I bought it a couple years ago when it first came out and it has the best sounding pres I've heard on anything at that price - or double the price. But it produces all kinds of pops and crackles when recording via FW. I kept it because it was worth the price just for the 4 pres in it; but thought it was pretty lame to put out such a broken product, and then take so long to fix it (if it is indeed fixed now, which it may not be). Anyway, all of that is to say that if Mackie is friendly to the FLOSS community - maybe sends a unit to FFADO developers, or gasp writes a Linux driver for it themselves - then that would be a very happy turn of events. Mackie has forums here: http://forums.mackie.com/scripts/forum/ ultimatebb.cgi that I stopped visiting out of disgust over a year ago, but as I said, I will go back and nose around. Maybe something good will happen if enough Linux users go over there and rile things up a bit - in a nice way of course. :-) ld On Jan 27, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Robert Klaar wrote: S'cuse me if I'm highjackin a bit but ok?!, so someone mentioned firewires; I was thinkin of buying a new computer, a laptop, problem is; it's got none!(no firewire), but I was thinkin that it's got an expansion(Expresscard/54), I've found such firewireexpresscards and I was wondering; is there going to be a problem in linux, do I need somekind of drivers for the expresscard? Anyways, I'm a bit intrested in using midi to for my beatmachines, I'm gona look it up a bit and post what I find... //Rob On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Atom Smasher a...@smasher.org wrote: i could be wrong here, someone feel free to jump in and correct what i think i've found... it seems like the m-audio (2x2, 4x4) adapters work, but require drivers that aren't supported by the manufacturer. it seems like the tapco link.midi 4x4 works out of the box, and the street price is close to (or less than) the m-audio 2x2. it also seems a little bit tougher (recessed front/rear panels, rubber padding) and a little better designed, overall (different color LEDs for input/output/power, kensington lock hole). of course, i'm just looking at pictures on the 'net, so i could be off by a tad ;) ideologically, i'm also leaning towards the mackie because it seems to just work. i'd rather spend my money with a company that's following standards, rather than a company that uses proprietary drivers and merely tolerates linux users developing an independent driver, with no company support (if i understand it correctly). it even looks like the tapco firmware upgrades are just a sysex file... so i wouldn't expect any problems using amidi to upgrade the firmware. that's actually two points they've scored; in addition to using sysex for upgrades, they have upgrades!! like i said, this is based on a few minutes googling, and may not accurately reflect reality. if anyone can comment on these (or other!) usb/midi adapters... please
Re: usb/midi adapter - which ones work well?
I have an M-Audio Delta 1010, which uses a PCI card to interface with the audio/MIDI connector and it's worked out of the box with no additional drivers required (although the unit was installed when I first installed UBS). M-Audio releases their drivers through a third party, but they are true OEM drivers. -=Beldon On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 14:15 +1300, Atom Smasher wrote: i could be wrong here, someone feel free to jump in and correct what i think i've found... it seems like the m-audio (2x2, 4x4) adapters work, but require drivers that aren't supported by the manufacturer. it seems like the tapco link.midi 4x4 works out of the box, and the street price is close to (or less than) the m-audio 2x2. it also seems a little bit tougher (recessed front/rear panels, rubber padding) and a little better designed, overall (different color LEDs for input/output/power, kensington lock hole). of course, i'm just looking at pictures on the 'net, so i could be off by a tad ;) ideologically, i'm also leaning towards the mackie because it seems to just work. i'd rather spend my money with a company that's following standards, rather than a company that uses proprietary drivers and merely tolerates linux users developing an independent driver, with no company support (if i understand it correctly). it even looks like the tapco firmware upgrades are just a sysex file... so i wouldn't expect any problems using amidi to upgrade the firmware. that's actually two points they've scored; in addition to using sysex for upgrades, they have upgrades!! like i said, this is based on a few minutes googling, and may not accurately reflect reality. if anyone can comment on these (or other!) usb/midi adapters... please do... thanks... -- ...atom http://atom.smasher.org/ 762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808 - The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him. -- George dubya Bush, 13 Sep 2001 I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority. -- George dubya Bush, 13 Mar 2002 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
usb/midi adapter - which ones work well?
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Atom Smasher wrote: and i recently bought what seems to be the worlds cheapest usb-midi adapter. when i connect it to my pc1600x, i have to add 40uS delay per byte, or else amidi doesn't get to see all of what's coming in. at least, a delay of 40uS/byte lets the computer receive a complete sysex dump (~19K), but i'm still loosing a lot of CC info when i move sliders on the pc1600x (verified with a few different midi monitors). this seems like a problem with the usb-midi adapter having too small a buffer... even using amidi to monitor the input from the usb adapter (pc1600x -- usb adapter), and using the pc1600x just to send control change messages, a lot of it is not getting past the adapter. if i use the usb port on my controller keyboard (bypassing the cheap usb-midi adapter), and turn a knob, EVERYTHING comes through. so, what should i be looking for in a low-end/entry-level usb-midi adapter that can handle large sysex dumps and plays well with linux? it seems like that didn't get any attention with a subject dumb midi questions, so here it is with a different subject. so, should i expect the problem, above, to disappear with a less crappy usb/midi adapter? which ones are ya'll happy with? thanks... -- ...atom http://atom.smasher.org/ 762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808 - It is not only [the juror's] right, but his duty... to find the verdict according to his own best understanding, judgment, and conscience, though in direct opposition to the direction of the court. -- John Adams, 1771 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
