Re: Japanese team (reviewer) is not working

[Nobuto Murata]

Better not to contact a team admin individually, but through mailing lists
for this kind of topics. Personally I don't think the IRC meeting is
relevant at this stage.

Thanks,

2017/02/21 午後9:24 "BALLOON a.k.a. Fu-sen." <balloonakafu...@gmail.com>:

Hi, Mutata-san

I am in contact with the team admin. But there is no reaction.
amd Tuesday(Japan Time) was the meeting day of Japanese Team,
I entered IRC and posted, but there was not any conversation.
These are not working...


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2017-02-21 21:13 GMT+09:00 Nobuto Murata <nob...@nobuto-murata.org>:
> Hi,
>
> You can always reach out to Ubuntu local community in Japan via:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-jp
>
> Or translators team directly:
> ubuntu-l10n...@lists.launchpad.net
>
> Thanks,
>
> 2017/02/21 午後9:02 "BALLOON a.k.a. Fu-sen." <balloonakafu...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi everyone in the translation team.
>>
>> I recently performed Ubuntu flavor Japanese translation, but it is not
>> reflected.
>>
>> For example slideshow-ubuntu-mate has not been reviewed since 2014,
>> There are many items of Suggestions.
>>
>> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+
source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/slideshow-ubuntu-mate/ja/+translate
>>
>> The team has not approved a new reviewer last in 2014.
>> I still have a name on Pending approval.
>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ja
>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ja/+members
>>
>> It is approved by the local team "Ubuntu Japanese Team".
>> https://wiki.ubuntulinux.jp/enroll/translator_candidates
>>
>> But this team's meeting has not worked for about 2 years.
>> https://wiki.ubuntulinux.jp/IRCMeeting (Japanese)
>>
>> In this state, Japanese translation of Ubuntu flavors is getting worse!
>> Can you support this problem?
>>
>> BALLOON a.k.a. Fu-sen. (Keiichi SHIGA)
>> balloonakafu...@gmail.com
>> https://launchpad.net/~balloon
>>
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Re: Japanese team (reviewer) is not working

[Nobuto Murata]

Hi,

You can always reach out to Ubuntu local community in Japan via:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-jp

Or translators team directly:
ubuntu-l10n...@lists.launchpad.net

Thanks,

2017/02/21 午後9:02 "BALLOON a.k.a. Fu-sen." :

> Hi everyone in the translation team.
>
> I recently performed Ubuntu flavor Japanese translation, but it is not
> reflected.
>
> For example slideshow-ubuntu-mate has not been reviewed since 2014,
> There are many items of Suggestions.
> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/+
> source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/slideshow-ubuntu-mate/ja/+translate
>
> The team has not approved a new reviewer last in 2014.
> I still have a name on Pending approval.
> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ja
> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ja/+members
>
> It is approved by the local team "Ubuntu Japanese Team".
> https://wiki.ubuntulinux.jp/enroll/translator_candidates
>
> But this team's meeting has not worked for about 2 years.
> https://wiki.ubuntulinux.jp/IRCMeeting (Japanese)
>
> In this state, Japanese translation of Ubuntu flavors is getting worse!
> Can you support this problem?
>
> BALLOON a.k.a. Fu-sen. (Keiichi SHIGA)
> balloonakafu...@gmail.com
> https://launchpad.net/~balloon
>
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Re: Lucid SRU of d-i component pkgsel translations

[Nobuto MURATA]

(2011年07月04日 03:05), Anders Jenbo wrote:
 Hi, what is the deadline for this?

Hi, sorry for late reply. Now that the package has been released to
lucid-updates, we need to take a SRU process again if regressions are
discovered.

So the new deadline, I think, is July 14st, a week ahead of 10.04.3 release.

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Lucid SRU of d-i component pkgsel translations

[Nobuto MURATA]

Hi Ubuntu Translators,

I have requested translations update for Lucid as Bug #797985[1] against
pkgsel package, which is a component of debian-installer and contains
Ubuntu-specific strings and translations[2].

Could you check translations for your language?

The best way to test pkgsel 0.25ubuntu7.1 is to install Lucid with d-i
and a boot parameter apt-setup/proposed=true[3]. But you can also use
debdiff[4] to see if there is any obvious regression.

If anything wrong, please feedback to the bug report. Also, please don't
hesitate to ask if you have any questions.

[1] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797985
[2] http://patches.ubuntu.com/p/pkgsel/
[3]
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed#Installation_testing_using_-proposed
[4]
https://launchpadlibrarian.net/73970080/pkgsel_0.25ubuntu7_0.25ubuntu7.1.diff.gz

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

[Nobuto MURATA]

(2011年02月21日 19:53), Ask Hjorth Larsen wrote:
 Then your locale is not enough to disable translations, right? In other
 words, keeping translated is fine?
 
 Indeed, they should be kept.

OK, I will keep Danish on not-affected list.

 [1]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-1#Languages_commonly_supported_but_with_incomplete_coverage

 This is not the incomplete coverage issue, because it doesn't relate
 to ǿ (i.e. ø with an apostrophe, which is used very rarely, and even
 then only optionally).  It is related to ø and Ø without apostrophe.
 The ø is replaced by an ø which is placed a few pixels above the
 baseline of the other letters, while the Ø is replaced by some kind of
 O-like character.  Ø is unicode 00D8 if this can help to reproduce the
 problem.

Thank you for explaining in detail. Then it might be a bug of font
itself. I think it's worth trying to report as a bug against
console-setup package. I'm not so familiar with this issue, could
someone, of course including Ask ;) try that?

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

[Nobuto MURATA]

Thank you all for your testing.

For clearing up again for making easy to catch up, the list below has
already tested locales.

Affected:
  ar_*
  he_IL
  ja_JP
  ko_KR
  ru_RU
  sl_SI (with 5%)
  vi_VN (with 70%)
  zh_*

NOT Affected:
  bg_BG
  da_DK (but some characters not displayed properly)
  en_*
  es_ES
  fr_FR
  gl_ES
  hr_HR
  is_IS
  nl_NL
  pt_BR


Thanks again to the testers! Still waiting other testers.

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

[Nobuto MURATA]

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Hi Khaled,

(2011年02月20日 06:55), Khaled Hosny wrote:
 For Arabic (testing ar_EG locale, but should be true for other ar_*
 ones), with default console font all the Arabic text is unreadable, but
 if change console font to an Arabic capable one (any of
 /usr/share/consolefonts/Arabic-* fonts) I get readable Arabic text (with
 proper right to left and shaping), so for Arabic a fix would involve
 choosing a suitable default console font. IIRC, some previous Ubuntu
 release had suitable Arabic font by default, I don't remember which one
 as it have been years since I tried Arabic in the console (I'm using
 10.04 right now).

Thank you for providing this information. I will forward it to
developers when attaching a complete list.

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

[Nobuto MURATA]

(2011年02月21日 11:42), Nobuto MURATA wrote:
 Hi Khaled,
 
 (2011年02月20日 06:55), Khaled Hosny wrote:
 For Arabic (testing ar_EG locale, but should be true for other ar_*
 ones), with default console font all the Arabic text is unreadable, but
 if change console font to an Arabic capable one (any of
 /usr/share/consolefonts/Arabic-* fonts) I get readable Arabic text (with
 proper right to left and shaping), so for Arabic a fix would involve
 choosing a suitable default console font. IIRC, some previous Ubuntu
 release had suitable Arabic font by default, I don't remember which one
 as it have been years since I tried Arabic in the console (I'm using
 10.04 right now).
 
 Thank you for providing this information. I will forward it to
 developers when attaching a complete list.

I have one question. When switching to Arabic font, untranslatable
strings like resume,clean,dpkg,failsafeX,… are also displayed properly?

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

[Nobuto MURATA]

Hi,

(2011年02月20日 11:23), Quynh Vu Do wrote:
 2011/2/20 Nobuto MURATA nob...@nobuto-murata.org:
 
 In case that menus are not translated yet in your locale, could you take
 additional steps below?

 1. Translate messages on friendly-recovery roughly (just for testing).

 2. Save as a UTF-8 encoded text file.

 3. Go to console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2.

 4. Open the saved file like the line below.
 $ cat ~/saved_file.txt

 5. Check that unreadable characters exists.
 
 Doing steps above (full translation excepted for menu items left in
 English, item menu's descriptions fully translated)
 Changing locale to vi_VN.UTF8
 Going to console CTRL+ALT+F2
 the saved files shows with errors
 
 Locale=Vi_VN.UTF8
 Affected: YES
 Percentage: 70%
 
 Percentage is calculated as:
 
 (number of characters with accents not showing properly)/(total number
 of characters with accents)
 
 It is not 100% because in Vietnamese some characters with accents are
 the same as in French.
 
 Changing locale to vi_VN gives the same results.

Could you tell me which is your problem about 70% of the characters?
Either they are completely unreadable characters like squares or
readable but odd about accents?

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Call for friendly-recovery testing

[Nobuto MURATA]

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Hello Ubuntu Translators,

I'd like to ask translators to test whether your locales are affected by
Bug #573502[1]. This bug is related to friendly-recovery which is used
in order to solve unbootable situation that X setting is broken or disks
are fully filled. It can be accessed from an entry on bootloader.

Currently in some locales like Chinese, Japanese and Korean, the menu
has unreadable characters. You can see the example screenshot[2]. This
issue comes from limited fonts which we can use on console.

To show all characters properly, friendly-recovery is needed to use
framebuffer. Implement of the solution would take some time. So we are
going to make loading translations disable on affected locales as a
workaround.

To do so, we need complete list of affected locales. You can test
whether your locale is affected along with the steps below. Currently
zh_*, ja_JP and ko_KR are confirmed as affected, so no need to test on
that locales.

1. Open gnome-terminal. Then execute the line below.
$ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu

2. You can see menus fully translated. Then press Esc.

3. Go to the console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2 and input username and
password to login.

4. Execute the line below again and see whether unreadable characters exist.
$ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu

5. Then press Esc, and you can go back to the desktop by pressing Alt+F7.


Please feedback your result by replying to this e-mail like below.
Thanks in advance.

Locale: (output of locale command)
Affected: YES/NO
Percentage: (percentage of unreadable characters)

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/573502
[2]
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47192384/Ubuntu%2010.04%20LTS%20Lucid%20Lynx%20%28Installed%29%20%5B%E5%AE%9F%E8%A1%8C%E4%B8%AD%5D%20-%20VirtualBox%20OSE_001.png

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

[Nobuto MURATA]

2011/02/20 10:19 Quynh Vu Do vdqu...@gmail.com:
 Vietnamese is not translated = not affcted (yet)

 Locale: vi_VN

 The menu shows in English.

 After going to the console CTRL+ALT+F2

 the default locale is LANG=en_US.UTF8

 changing the locale by doing
 $LANG=vi_VN

 then
 /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu

 shows the menu in English

 changing the locale by doing
 $LANG=vi_VN.UTF8

 also shows a menu in English.

In case that menus are not translated yet in your locale, could you take
additional steps below?

1. Translate messages on friendly-recovery roughly (just for testing).

2. Save as a UTF-8 encoded text file.

3. Go to console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2.

4. Open the saved file like the line below.
$ cat ~/saved_file.txt

5. Check that unreadable characters exists.

This steps can simulate the issue and check your locale is potentially
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Re: Ubuntu 10.04 start page

[Nobuto MURATA]

Hi Adi,
thank you for your great work.

Translations of the start pages looks fine,
but searching with the start page, we get English result page which is
not localized.
I found that this problem was reported as Bug #363381[1].

And I realized that to fix is easy at least for Google.
So I sent a patch to the bug.
Please consider to include this fix for the start pages.

I don't know how many languages Google can display in.
So I would ask for translators whether your language is supported by Google,
and this fix has effect.

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-start-page/+bug/363381

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