Re: Timeouts when trying to translate on Launchpad

2014-08-09 Thread Hannie Dumoleyn

Op 08-08-14 om 13:31 schreef Michael Bauer:

Ask

Had about a dozen timeouts in a row but when it eventually came back, 
yes, on this occasion the translations had gone through. But I have 
indeed lost translations this way and I imagine many people also do if 
they don't try the back button.
I am not sure what you mean by the back button. I use F5 (refresh) and 
I never lose any translations, but having to use F5 frequently is rather 
annoying. We have sent a bug report years ago, but it appears there is 
no solution.

Hannie


Michael

08/08/2014 12:28, sgrìobh Ask Hjorth Larsen:

Hi Michael

Are you sure they were lost?  Usually they get submitted correctly,
and it is the next page which refuses to load.  So far I have not lost
a page of translations due to the usual timeout error.

Best regards
Ask


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Re: Timeouts when trying to translate on Launchpad

2014-08-09 Thread Phillip Sz
Hi,

 I am not sure what you mean by the back button. I use F5 (refresh) and
I never lose any translations, but having to use F5 frequently is rather
annoying. We have sent a bug report years ago, but it appears there is no
solution.
 Hannie

If you look at the comments on the bug page:
https://launchpad.net/bugs/736005

they need new database servers to fix it, so there is a solution.

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Re: Timeouts when trying to translate on Launchpad

2014-08-08 Thread Kali Yuga Bodhisattva
 Hi,
+1 
I have the same problem.

WBR,
Jay

Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:03:35 +0300 от Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com:
Hi All,

When trying to translate on Launchpad, I get quite often Timeout errors.
That is, when I am submitting a translation and click to get the next 10 
message, 
the page give the Timeout error. I need to refresh several times in order to 
proceed to the next set of messages. 

I have tried with both Firefox and Chrome. 
Does anyone else exhibit this issue?
I am translating for Greek (in case there is some server-side extra processing 
for some languages).

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Re: Timeouts when trying to translate on Launchpad

2014-08-08 Thread Ask Hjorth Larsen
Hello

I see this quite frequently.  I assume it's the same for everyone.

Best regards
Ask

2014-08-08 13:03 GMT+02:00 Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com:
 Hi All,

 When trying to translate on Launchpad, I get quite often Timeout errors.
 That is, when I am submitting a translation and click to get the next 10
 message,
 the page give the Timeout error. I need to refresh several times in order to
 proceed to the next set of messages.

 I have tried with both Firefox and Chrome.
 Does anyone else exhibit this issue?
 I am translating for Greek (in case there is some server-side extra
 processing for some languages).

 Simos

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Re: Timeouts when trying to translate on Launchpad

2014-08-08 Thread Yuri Chornoivan
написане Fri, 08 Aug 2014 14:03:35 +0300, Simos Xenitellis  
simos.li...@googlemail.com:



Does anyone else exhibit this issue?


Hi,

Yes, this happens regularly for me for several years. ;)

Best regards,
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Re: Timeouts when trying to translate on Launchpad

2014-08-08 Thread Michael Bauer
Yep, get it a lot too. Especially annoying when the back button does not 
bring up your translations again. I actually just lost a whole page 
worth 2 minutes ago.


Michael

08/08/2014 12:08, sgrìobh ubuntu-translators-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com:

Hi All,

When trying to translate on Launchpad, I get quite often Timeout errors.
That is, when I am submitting a translation and click to get the next 10
message,
the page give the Timeout error. I need to refresh several times in order
to proceed to the next set of messages.

I have tried with both Firefox and Chrome.
Does anyone else exhibit this issue?
I am translating for Greek (in case there is some server-side extra
processing for some languages).

Simos



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Re: Timeouts when trying to translate on Launchpad

2014-08-08 Thread Ask Hjorth Larsen
Hi Michael

Are you sure they were lost?  Usually they get submitted correctly,
and it is the next page which refuses to load.  So far I have not lost
a page of translations due to the usual timeout error.

Best regards
Ask

2014-08-08 13:26 GMT+02:00 Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org:
 Yep, get it a lot too. Especially annoying when the back button does not
 bring up your translations again. I actually just lost a whole page worth 2
 minutes ago.

 Michael

 08/08/2014 12:08, sgrìobh ubuntu-translators-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com:

 Hi All,

 When trying to translate on Launchpad, I get quite often Timeout errors.
 That is, when I am submitting a translation and click to get the next 10
 message,
 the page give the Timeout error. I need to refresh several times in order
 to proceed to the next set of messages.

 I have tried with both Firefox and Chrome.
 Does anyone else exhibit this issue?
 I am translating for Greek (in case there is some server-side extra
 processing for some languages).

 Simos



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Re: Timeouts when trying to translate on Launchpad

2014-08-08 Thread Åka Sikrom
Hi Simos,

It happens to me quite frequently, especially if I am on a busy
network. 
That reminds me, I once got rid of this problem almost completely by
disabling my browser's HTTPS Everywhere for Launchpad.net.
Even though the pages were still sent to me in HTTPS, the timeouts
went away. When I turned the extension back on, the timeouts returned.
Not sure if I can reproduce this now, but I will try it again the next
time I get a timeout spree.

For what it is worth, when I am at home, this almost never happens, no
matter if HTTPS Everywhere is enabled or not.

I am quite surprised that there are no (easily searchable, at least)
bug reports for this.
Anybody seen one?

Best regards,
Åka Sikrom

Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:03:35 +0300
From: Simos Xenitellis 

Hi All,

When trying to translate on Launchpad, I get quite often Timeout
errors.
That is, when I am submitting a translation and click to get the next
10
message,
the page give the Timeout error. I need to refresh several times in
order
to proceed to the next set of messages.

I have tried with both Firefox and Chrome.
Does anyone else exhibit this issue?
I am translating for Greek (in case there is some server-side extra
processing for some languages).

Simos
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Re: Timeouts when trying to translate on Launchpad

2014-08-08 Thread Michael Bauer

Ask

Had about a dozen timeouts in a row but when it eventually came back, 
yes, on this occasion the translations had gone through. But I have 
indeed lost translations this way and I imagine many people also do if 
they don't try the back button.


Michael

08/08/2014 12:28, sgrìobh Ask Hjorth Larsen:

Hi Michael

Are you sure they were lost?  Usually they get submitted correctly,
and it is the next page which refuses to load.  So far I have not lost
a page of translations due to the usual timeout error.

Best regards
Ask


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Re: Timeouts when trying to translate on Launchpad

2014-08-08 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2014-08-08 13:29, Åka Sikrom wrote:
 I am quite surprised that there are no (easily searchable, at least) bug
 reports for this.
 Anybody seen one?

https://launchpad.net/bugs/736005

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Re: Timeouts when trying to translate on Launchpad

2014-08-08 Thread Simos Xenitellis
According to the patch on that bug report, the source of the problem has
been the loading of suggestions when you view the next set of messages to
translate.
That is, the current translations are most likely sent successfully, but
the new set of ten messages fail to load on time.
The patch (preload those suggestions so that they are not computed all the
time) has not been applied yet, so it is an issue of getting that done.
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/stable/revision/17086

If launchpad.net has been working for translations, then most probably
there was minimal server load, or the specific language had too few
suggestions to compute.

Thus, if you get the Timeout message, simply hit Refresh/Reload in order to
get the next set of messages.
It does not help to hit back, as the translations most likely made it
through.

I hope the patch gets added to launchpad.net soon.

Simos


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson gunna...@ubuntu.com
wrote:

 On 2014-08-08 13:29, Åka Sikrom wrote:
  I am quite surprised that there are no (easily searchable, at least) bug
  reports for this.
  Anybody seen one?

 https://launchpad.net/bugs/736005

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Re: Timeouts when trying to translate on Launchpad

2014-08-08 Thread David Planella
Hi all,

Thanks everyone for the heads up. Launchpad Engineers are very aware of
this issue, and I apologise for the disruptions it makes in translating. I
adds even more credit to the work that you guys are doing that you've
managed to translate the phone and the desktop even with the frequent
timeouts.

William Grant replied to the bug with some updates, but the gist of it is
that we're working on getting the new dataservers that will bring
improvements up and running, so this is still work in progress:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/736005

Thanks again.

Cheers,
David



On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 According to the patch on that bug report, the source of the problem has
 been the loading of suggestions when you view the next set of messages to
 translate.
 That is, the current translations are most likely sent successfully, but
 the new set of ten messages fail to load on time.
 The patch (preload those suggestions so that they are not computed all the
 time) has not been applied yet, so it is an issue of getting that done.
 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/stable/revision/17086

 If launchpad.net has been working for translations, then most probably
 there was minimal server load, or the specific language had too few
 suggestions to compute.

 Thus, if you get the Timeout message, simply hit Refresh/Reload in order
 to get the next set of messages.
 It does not help to hit back, as the translations most likely made it
 through.

 I hope the patch gets added to launchpad.net soon.

 Simos


 On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson gunna...@ubuntu.com
 wrote:

 On 2014-08-08 13:29, Åka Sikrom wrote:
  I am quite surprised that there are no (easily searchable, at least) bug
  reports for this.
  Anybody seen one?

 https://launchpad.net/bugs/736005

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