[ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
As promised, I've had a bash at writing something which would be suitable for inclusion in a local magazine. As always please correct, suggest and improve :-) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArticleForLocalMagazine Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
Pretty good, but: Ubuntu doesn't get viruses should be Ubuntu rarely gets viruses. You should point out that antivirus firewalls slow down your computer. Linux runs the entire internet should be Linux runs about half of the internet as about 50% of websites are hosted on linux. Also, you should recommend that people download CDs if they have fast internet, rather than getting them off of shipit, but still state that shipit is an option if you have slow/no internet. On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 13:57 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: As promised, I've had a bash at writing something which would be suitable for inclusion in a local magazine. As always please correct, suggest and improve :-) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArticleForLocalMagazine Cheers Chris -- Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
I've made some slight alterations, I think some of the bottom part needs re-writing though :( It claims a little too much and would make any I.T. literate person ignore it as a fanboy rant. Great idea though, engaging in some guerilla tactics to get the word out. Do you mind if I edit a little more? You can always change it back. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 23 July 2007 13:58 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag As promised, I've had a bash at writing something which would be suitable for inclusion in a local magazine. As always please correct, suggest and improve :-) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArticleForLocalMagazine Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
Do you mind if I edit a little more? You can always change it back That's the idea folks ;-) Get in there and edit it - it's just a concept. I have the original anyway. I just want something effective and I'm not big headed enough to assume I have all the answers ;-) Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
Edited to say rarely gets viruses Made less fanboy'ey !! Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
Linux runs the entire internet should be Linux runs about half of the internet as about 50% of websites are hosted on linux. I know it's probably misstating the fact 'slightly' but I'm not just on about hosting, I'm including bind, dns, dhcp etc etc ... Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
I edited it say runs the majority of websites, which is true. Anyway there was an edit conflict so I saved it with the highlighted conflicts. You can have a look at delete whatever you don't like. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 23 July 2007 15:09 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag Linux runs the entire internet should be Linux runs about half of the internet as about 50% of websites are hosted on linux. I know it's probably misstating the fact 'slightly' but I'm not just on about hosting, I'm including bind, dns, dhcp etc etc ... Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
Anyway there was an edit conflict so I saved it with the highlighted conflicts. You can have a look at delete whatever you don't like. Whilst I do like the edits, I worry that they make the article seem a little more caustic and technical. The audience I had in mind when writing the article was older folk with little IT experience. Have I been dumbing them down too much do you think? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
No not at all, I agree with you. I would like to see the part about rarely crashing staying out though. I've never had it crash through something that wasn't my own doing ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 23 July 2007 15:21 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag Anyway there was an edit conflict so I saved it with the highlighted conflicts. You can have a look at delete whatever you don't like. Whilst I do like the edits, I worry that they make the article seem a little more caustic and technical. The audience I had in mind when writing the article was older folk with little IT experience. Have I been dumbing them down too much do you think? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
Alec Wright wrote: Pretty good, but: Ubuntu doesn't get viruses should be Ubuntu rarely gets viruses. I appreciate your point. However, as of recently, are there *any* reports of ubuntu suffering from viruses? To 'rarely' get a virus supposes that a virus has actually been 'got'. With 60,000 viruses in the wild I still think that 'ubuntu does not get viruses' is a very fair thing to state. It would be an interesting local letter reply if any reader has experienced one. It might make more than local news? I have come to believe that what readers expect is interesting informative items, not necessarily a theoretical truth. A leaflet that I offer by hand says that linux does 'not get viruses'. I am not persuaded that there is an advantage to change this wording. I am told that it is easy to write a virus for linux, and also that there are websites explaining how. The reason why, for example, I, have not been infected is that it is very difficult to spread them. Linux is infertile ground. Note: To 99.999% of readers, a virus is a virus. That they are 'Windows viruses' goes without being said. With a *Marketing* activity in mind, we have a message to get across. It is not the job of *marketing* to undersell our product. It is the job of marketing to get the product noticed and used, not to point out possible future shortcomings. No reservations. What does our competitor do and say? This is a Marketing point, not a study paper. You should point out that antivirus firewalls slow down your computer. Linux runs the entire internet should be Linux runs about half of the internet as about 50% of websites are hosted on linux. Also, you should recommend that people download CDs if they have fast internet, rather than getting them off of shipit, but still state that shipit is an option if you have slow/no internet. On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 13:57 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: As promised, I've had a bash at writing something which would be suitable for inclusion in a local magazine. As always please correct, suggest and improve :-) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArticleForLocalMagazine Cheers Chris -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
No not at all, I agree with you. I would like to see the part about rarely crashing staying out though. I've never had it crash through something that wasn't my own doing ;) I've merged the conflicts and reworded slightly - what'da ya think? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
Hi alan c wrote: To 'rarely' get a virus supposes that a virus has actually been 'got'. But then doesn't get implies it's somehow impossible, which it isn't. I would maybe say something like Ubuntu inherits over 3 decades of secure design, making infection by viruses or spyware exceedingly difficult (to date there are no known cases). Cheers, -- Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.canonical.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
Chris Rowson wrote: Anyway there was an edit conflict so I saved it with the highlighted conflicts. You can have a look at delete whatever you don't like. Whilst I do like the edits, I worry that they make the article seem a little more caustic and technical. The audience I had in mind when writing the article was older folk with little IT experience. Have I been dumbing them down too much do you think? Chris This a non specialist marketing list and discussion is getting diffused and distracted from the main event of marketing. Sincere and genuine opinions are being exchanged in a technical context and I continue to believe that this context is not the best for marketing discussions. I think that a separate list for uk marketing would bring benefits in ideas, and energy. This would not prevent ideas being fielded and would not be a closed list. However a marketing mind-set is a world away from a technical mindset. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
But then doesn't get implies it's somehow impossible, which it isn't. I would maybe say something like Ubuntu inherits over 3 decades of secure design, making infection by viruses or spyware exceedingly difficult (to date there are no known cases). Currently reads Ubuntu stands up very well against online security threats. Because of the way it is built, it is exceptionally resilient against viruses. Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
Reads very nicely to me now. I also agree with the other point that we are quite within our rights to push the boat back out a bit more WRT virii. I'll leave that up to you. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 23 July 2007 15:32 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag No not at all, I agree with you. I would like to see the part about rarely crashing staying out though. I've never had it crash through something that wasn't my own doing ;) I've merged the conflicts and reworded slightly - what'da ya think? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
Hi Chris Rowson wrote: Ubuntu stands up very well against online security threats. Because of the way it is built, it is exceptionally resilient against viruses. If I was feeling particularly pedantic I'd object to exceptionally (because there are lots of UNIXy things, so maybe exceedingly), but otherwise that's great :) Cheers, -- Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.canonical.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
Can I just remind people that there is a launchpad group set up for ubuntu-uk marketing activities. I try to keep it up to date: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-uk-marketing It's worth joining the group as then you'll get notified whenever there are new projects, updates etc etc. Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reads very nicely to me now. I also agree with the other point that we are quite within our rights to push the boat back out a bit more WRT virii. I heartily agree. When the competition has a poor product fro years, but good marketing, it is certainly the time to use marketing techniques. Surely that is what marketing actually *is*? The Ubuntu Shipit pack says: '..is easy to install, free of viruses, and perfect for laptops, desktops and servers.' Just 14 words. Impact. Clarity. Marketing. Can we please get some push into UK marketing without hints of reservation or apology? -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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Fair enough. It's a difficult balance between factually correct and marketing. I left it as viruses because I thought virii may be too confusing for the uninitiated? I'm impressed by the leaflet by the way. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of alan c Sent: 23 July 2007 17:10 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reads very nicely to me now. I also agree with the other point that we are quite within our rights to push the boat back out a bit more WRT virii. I heartily agree. When the competition has a poor product fro years, but good marketing, it is certainly the time to use marketing techniques. Surely that is what marketing actually *is*? The Ubuntu Shipit pack says: '..is easy to install, free of viruses, and perfect for laptops, desktops and servers.' Just 14 words. Impact. Clarity. Marketing. Can we please get some push into UK marketing without hints of reservation or apology? -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag
I've just read through the article outloud (I often find it helps to pick out small errors in readability) and edited a word here and there. I think that it reads OK to me now. I might run with it unless anyone else has anything to add Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Marketing] BBC site headlines Linux OLPC
On 23/07/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not Ubuntu specific, but revolutionary item creating interest and helping the bandwagon to roll onwards. http://www.bbc.co.uk/ 'The World In their Hands' '$100 laptop' goes into production' http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6908946.stm -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 This is a pretty cool event. A lot of people poured scorn upon the OLPC project and it's great to see them going into production :-D You can emulate 'sugar' (that's the OLPC operating system) using Qemu, or download a live CD. I checked it out a couple of months ago and the interface is pretty weird. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_images_for_emulation Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
