Re: [ubuntu-uk] Promoting Ubuntu
On 30/10/2007, Gaurav Patel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a member of a team of an organisation where I volunteer every Wednesday to offer free wireless Internet in an estate in Kingston, London. A problem we had was that many people in this estate had very little money and very little computing knowledge. Long story short, we had to supply the computers. We had another charity organisation offer a around 80 old Dell Optiplex (I think the model number is GX1). We pre-install these computers with Ubuntu 6.06 and give everything away for a low low price of £0. If you want to know more about what we're doing, there's some information on the website at http://www.e-voice.org.uk/comcon/. I probably wrote all of this and has no valid part of the current discussion, so apologies if that's the case! On 30/10/2007, Andrew Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/10/2007, Ciaran Mooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, There is an event that already does this kind of advocacy. Its called Software Freedom Day. Every year around September time voluteers organise an event all on the same day to promote free software. Canonical sponsor the event and the official distro to hand out is Ubuntu, though you can hand out any one you want. Also we distribute The Open CD. I believe a combined effort from all free software advocates on Software Freedom Day is probably better than small lone Ubuntu specific events, sporadically happening through out the year. There are events held is quite a few major cities in the UK http://softwarefreedomday.org/teams/europe/uk I understand if Ubuntu-UK would like to organise their own event, separate from SFD, but from my experience organising an event by myself in Birmingham all the help I could get was very appreciated. Having Ubuntu-UK behind the next SFD would help a lot. Ciarán On 10/29/07, Matthew Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, this approach works very well. On 29/10/2007, Michael Holloway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys We're always trying to think of ideas and ways to promote Ubuntu/Linux... why not stick to the basics?? Canonical sends out CD's for free upon request... i don't know how many, and what they would think of this, but: We gets tons of CD's in boxes, we get an Ubuntu jacket with big writing saying something like: Ubuntu Linux Free OS Free Office ... and then some of us volunteer to stand in city centres on the weekend (maybe two or three in a group so we can answer questions etc) and hand them out like flyers. We include a little slip that explains how they can try it (live) and install it etc. Probably some of them will get thrown away, and many will remain unused, but surely the relatively low-cost of this type of promotion will prove effective??? Even if its just the oh yes i've heard of that type. What do you think? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- --- Matthew Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ The school idea sounds pretty good. I would possibly look into doing that here, keep us posted on how you do with sponsorship. Information on this would be great to provide to the community so that people everywhere could do the same. -- Andrew Alexander Barber -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ I wouldn't say it wasn't relative, as it *is* promotion of Ubuntu. How have things been since? Did the people stick to Ubuntu? Did they get a bootleg version of windows? Do you provide support to them? Sounds like a very nice thing that you have done :D -- Andrew Alexander Barber -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Promoting Ubuntu
People have heard of Windows but that's where it ends. They don't know better. However we had a lady come in a few weeks ago who came in with a Windows 2000 CD and asked us to install it and didn't even want to hear about Ubuntu. A couple which has mixed results. The wife is really eager to learn Ubuntu and has fully customized her desktop (different panels, rearranged icons, background wallpaper etc). She even found out how to install the necessary things to playback DVDs on the machine without asking us through the Internet! Little things, but I think it's amazing. The husband on the other hand! You can tell he just wants Windows on the machine and to forget about all about Ubuntu. =( Once they take their machines away we do say that they are more than welcome to pop into the shop every Wednesday and ask anything they want. So far, we haven't had anyone do that (as far as I know). We will be conducting a survey soon to find out exactly how well they are getting on with their boxes. The results will be interesting to say the least. As we don't know if they have completely removed our hard work that has gone into the boxes and whacked on Windows or just don't use the computers. On 02/11/2007, Andrew Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/10/2007, Gaurav Patel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a member of a team of an organisation where I volunteer every Wednesday to offer free wireless Internet in an estate in Kingston, London. A problem we had was that many people in this estate had very little money and very little computing knowledge. Long story short, we had to supply the computers. We had another charity organisation offer a around 80 old Dell Optiplex (I think the model number is GX1). We pre-install these computers with Ubuntu 6.06 and give everything away for a low low price of £0. If you want to know more about what we're doing, there's some information on the website at http://www.e-voice.org.uk/comcon/ . I probably wrote all of this and has no valid part of the current discussion, so apologies if that's the case! On 30/10/2007, Andrew Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/10/2007, Ciaran Mooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, There is an event that already does this kind of advocacy. Its called Software Freedom Day. Every year around September time voluteers organise an event all on the same day to promote free software. Canonical sponsor the event and the official distro to hand out is Ubuntu, though you can hand out any one you want. Also we distribute The Open CD. I believe a combined effort from all free software advocates on Software Freedom Day is probably better than small lone Ubuntu specific events, sporadically happening through out the year. There are events held is quite a few major cities in the UK http://softwarefreedomday.org/teams/europe/uk I understand if Ubuntu-UK would like to organise their own event, separate from SFD, but from my experience organising an event by myself in Birmingham all the help I could get was very appreciated. Having Ubuntu-UK behind the next SFD would help a lot. Ciarán On 10/29/07, Matthew Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, this approach works very well. On 29/10/2007, Michael Holloway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys We're always trying to think of ideas and ways to promote Ubuntu/Linux... why not stick to the basics?? Canonical sends out CD's for free upon request... i don't know how many, and what they would think of this, but: We gets tons of CD's in boxes, we get an Ubuntu jacket with big writing saying something like: Ubuntu Linux Free OS Free Office ... and then some of us volunteer to stand in city centres on the weekend (maybe two or three in a group so we can answer questions etc) and hand them out like flyers. We include a little slip that explains how they can try it (live) and install it etc. Probably some of them will get thrown away, and many will remain unused, but surely the relatively low-cost of this type of promotion will prove effective??? Even if its just the oh yes i've heard of that type. What do you think? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- --- Matthew Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ The school idea
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CD cover
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 13:54 +, Stephen Drake wrote: Are there any good CD covers like the one provided by the Open Disc project? Preferably using the same origami style template. I think it looks really good and would be better than just handing out a plain CD. http://www.theopendisc.com/latest-version/cover-art/ I know there's been talk of getting some CDs printed professionally, but I think this is also a great, fast, cheap solution. Regards, Steve https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DVDCover and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Marketing/CDWallets Most of the ones in the latter were made by me and are very out of date -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Promoting Ubuntu
Yep, Locustworld are the source of our mesh boxes (which are damn unstable right now, random reboots anyone?) We have a few problems where there are poor signal areas in the estate so we used to provide those nifty ethernet over powerline jobbys, but those are pretty lame and don't solve all the problems (we had the mesh boxes connected at the top of the tower blocks and then the network signal was injected into the electricity at the top) Right now we're piloting some Edimax wireless access points but pre-configured to act as a repeater as well. Go around to some charity organisations and simply ask if they're throwing any computer hardware out. You'll be amazed at what you'll find! Schools are worth trying aswell. On 02/11/2007, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Gaurav Patel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: People have heard of Windows but that's where it ends. They don't know better. However we had a lady come in a few weeks ago who came in with a Windows 2000 CD and asked us to install it and didn't even want to hear about Ubuntu. A couple which has mixed results. The wife is really eager to learn Ubuntu and has fully customized her desktop (different panels, rearranged icons, background wallpaper etc). She even found out how to install the necessary things to playback DVDs on the machine without asking us through the Internet! Little things, but I think it's amazing. The husband on the other hand! You can tell he just wants Windows on the machine and to forget about all about Ubuntu. =( Once they take their machines away we do say that they are more than welcome to pop into the shop every Wednesday and ask anything they want. So far, we haven't had anyone do that (as far as I know). We will be conducting a survey soon to find out exactly how well they are getting on with their boxes. The results will be interesting to say the least. As we don't know if they have completely removed our hard work that has gone into the boxes and whacked on Windows or just don't use the computers. That's really interesting, just had a look at the site, I could think of a couple of areas in Devon which would possibly benefit from a scheme like this, the only problem we have is finding a local supply of old machines. Is the free wireless internet access provided by those Locustworld Mesh boxes? (sorry not really clued up on these Mesh networks). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Promoting Ubuntu
Quoting Gaurav Patel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: People have heard of Windows but that's where it ends. They don't know better. However we had a lady come in a few weeks ago who came in with a Windows 2000 CD and asked us to install it and didn't even want to hear about Ubuntu. A couple which has mixed results. The wife is really eager to learn Ubuntu and has fully customized her desktop (different panels, rearranged icons, background wallpaper etc). She even found out how to install the necessary things to playback DVDs on the machine without asking us through the Internet! Little things, but I think it's amazing. The husband on the other hand! You can tell he just wants Windows on the machine and to forget about all about Ubuntu. =( Once they take their machines away we do say that they are more than welcome to pop into the shop every Wednesday and ask anything they want. So far, we haven't had anyone do that (as far as I know). We will be conducting a survey soon to find out exactly how well they are getting on with their boxes. The results will be interesting to say the least. As we don't know if they have completely removed our hard work that has gone into the boxes and whacked on Windows or just don't use the computers. That's really interesting, just had a look at the site, I could think of a couple of areas in Devon which would possibly benefit from a scheme like this, the only problem we have is finding a local supply of old machines. Is the free wireless internet access provided by those Locustworld Mesh boxes? (sorry not really clued up on these Mesh networks). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CD cover
Are there any good CD covers like the one provided by the Open Disc project? Preferably using the same origami style template. I think it looks really good and would be better than just handing out a plain CD. http://www.theopendisc.com/latest-version/cover-art/ I know there's been talk of getting some CDs printed professionally, but I think this is also a great, fast, cheap solution. Regards, Steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] C/C++ Development
I'd second the GT+ - for purely selfish reasons. It's one of the few libraries that's ATSPI compliant. E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Restall - System Administrator Sent: 01 November 2007 21:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] C/C++ Development Hi Jai, Guys, Don't forget the gals/dolls !!. Where is the best place to start with C/C++ development from a Linux (or GTK) perspective? Note that I haven't differentiated between C and C++. This is because I do not mind which I use. I've been looking on GNU's website and they feature a manual on glibc (which is a definite advantage if I use C). Where as C++ has cppreference.com (which I've been informed is quite out-of-date). I wouldn't recommend KR - it's not a book for beginners. My KR is well thumbed but was difficult to follow when I was starting out. I bought C The Complete Reference by Herbert Schildt (McGraw Hill I Think) but don't know if it is still in print (We're talking 1986 or thereabouts). If I was starting out today I'd go for Practical C++ programming by Steve Qualline (O'Reilly) (Excellent book and very readable and a good tutorial reference) and C++ The Core Reference by Gregory Satir Doug Brown - again published by O'Reilly. By all means by KR but don't make it your first book. Regardless of which of the two languages I use, I will probably be in need of some tutorials (please, Linux or GTK based as oppose to a Windows users' one). I don't yet have the hacker skills that some of you might so I would be very grateful for a ground-base instead of just diving into the glibc manual and trying to teach myself. Don't know about tutorials - though I would go with GTK+ http://www.gtk.org. I found this better documented than GTK, YMMV. Regards, David ubuntu/uk-2007-11-01.txubuntu-uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--- -+ | Dave Restall, Computer Nerd, Cyclist, Radio Amateur G4FCU, Bodger | | Mob +44 (0) 7973 831245 Skype: dave.restall Radio: G4FCU | | email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : Not Ready Yet :-( | +--- -+ | Aim for the moon. If you miss, you may hit a star. | | -- W. Clement Stone | +--- -+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Goodbye all
Just a quick note to say Goodbye to all those doing good work with Ubuntu. However, I'm afraid that given that appears acceptable behaviour on this list to make accusations of exploitation and corruption, and present that in language of a sexual nature, I no longer wish to be a part of this community. M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Do you use the forums...?
and if we don't -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 02 November 2007 14:10 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Do you use the forums...? If so could you please vote in this poll? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=599844 Many thanks! Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] medibuntu dapper packeages no longer available?
I've had to reinstall dapper on an old laptop, and tried to get the w32codecs from deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free but I get a 'Not Found' error. Forgive me if I'm being stupid, but have I missed something here? Are the packaged / repo no longer available? Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] C/C++ Development
Whoops, should have added this to previous post Why not look at a cross platform compiler like Mono for instance? It'd mean that when you've written your app, it'd work on your Linux box as well as M$ etc E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dougie Richardson Sent: 01 November 2007 21:03 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] C/C++ Development Hi Jai, I'll probably get castigated for this but I use both and found Python and GTK much less hassle and easier to get up to speed with quickly. C is what C is - a good strong language, C++ - well many have strong opinions on it (including Linux Torvalds). On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 20:55 +, Jai Harrison wrote: Hi Jai, Hey Dougie Would be interested as to why you are interested in C/C++, what are your objectives? My objects are to learn the language and then make GTK/GNOME applications to suit my requirements. A big one of these is a music player that suits my personal needs (and I shouldn't imagine it would be too hard provided I used a good back-end for music playback). Jai P.S: Seeker` from the IRC channel linked me to this: http://www.physics.drexel.edu/courses/Comp_Phys/General/C_basics/c_tutorial. html On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 18:11 +, Jai Harrison wrote: Guys, Where is the best place to start with C/C++ development from a Linux (or GTK) perspective? Note that I haven't differentiated between C and C++. This is because I do not mind which I use. I've been looking on GNU's website and they feature a manual on glibc (which is a definite advantage if I use C). Where as C++ has cppreference.com (which I've been informed is quite out-of-date). Regardless of which of the two languages I use, I will probably be in need of some tutorials (please, Linux or GTK based as oppose to a Windows users' one). I don't yet have the hacker skills that some of you might so I would be very grateful for a ground-base instead of just diving into the glibc manual and trying to teach myself. Jai -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] [Malvern] Fw: [Gloucs] Only 400-600 Linux users of bbc.co.ukwebsite?
Just to follow up on the whole BBC thing came around the LUG today. E This was forwarded by Andrey Oakley Begin forwarded message: The BBC's head of technology states that We have 17.1 million users of bbc.co.uk in the UK and, as far as our server logs can make out ... around 400 to 600 are Linux users http://tinyurl.com/23ojj6 If you suspect that this figure is wrong, please sign up to say that you use Linux to access bbc.co.uk : http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/linuxbbc/ -- Andrew Oakley -- Cheers Phil Ironside Creative Spaces 01684-561495 http://creativespaces.co.uk http://malvern.lug.org.uk http://birmingham.pm.org ___ Malvern mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/malvern -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids
Chris, Sorry, but I am offended by the choice of language like Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids. Are you actually accusing Ballmer of sexual exploitation of vulnerable people? Or are you saying that selling Western products to African nations is the moral equivalent thereof? Mark You're not a stupid man Mark, you know exactly what I mean. I'm not getting into conversations about the sexual exploitation of children with you. I'm a mild manner person but I won't tolerate that kind of discussion anywhere - full stop. Please knock it off - Insinuating that a member of the community is alledging the filth that you have just written goes against the Ubuntu code of conduct. I do not wish to indulge in this conversation with you anymore. Regards Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Do you use the forums...?
If so could you please vote in this poll? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=599844 Many thanks! Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Malvern] Fw: [Gloucs] Only 400-600 Linux users of bbc.co.ukwebsite?
I noticed this earlier (though not the register piece) I have to say though even the new figures are weird, I mean what's the margin of error on a calculation giving a difference of over 6 - twice as high as the lowest figure? How on earth are the calculating this figure? Dougie On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 17:29 +, John Levin wrote: Ian Pascoe wrote: Just to follow up on the whole BBC thing came around the LUG today. E This was forwarded by Andrey Oakley Begin forwarded message: The BBC's head of technology states that We have 17.1 million users of bbc.co.uk in the UK and, as far as our server logs can make out ... around 400 to 600 are Linux users http://tinyurl.com/23ojj6 If you suspect that this figure is wrong, please sign up to say that you use Linux to access bbc.co.uk : http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/linuxbbc/ Ashley Highfield (BBC head of tech) has backpedaled a bit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2007/11/linux_figures_1.html Good reportage here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/02/highfield_bbc_linux_website_users_bafflement/ John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids
Chris Rowson wrote: On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 22:38 +, Chris Rowson wrote: I'm hope you see me as an exploiter of innocent children for posting this here. To be honest though, I don't have an agenda or petty points to make. Despite writing in rant mode, without remembering to include the customary rant/rant tags I didn't mean to write that. Strangely I actually hope that people DO NOT see me as an exploiter of innocent children! Chris Chris, Sorry, but I am offended by the choice of language like Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids. Are you actually accusing Ballmer of sexual exploitation of vulnerable people? Or are you saying that selling Western products to African nations is the moral equivalent thereof? Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Goodbye all
On 02/11/2007, STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did all this happen? I *presume* Mark is referring to the thread that evolved from this email: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2007-November/008836.html Full thread: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2007-November/thread.html#8836 though I can not be sure, but it does seem the most likely. (I hadn't read this myself till I did a search for Marks email to work out what we may have been referring to.). Incidentally Stone Cold the line breaks seem to be missing when I view your email (not sure if anyone else has this problem). Andy -- Computers are like air conditioners. Both stop working, if you open windows. -- Adam Heath -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids
Mark Harrison wrote: Chris, Sorry, but I am offended by the choice of language like Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids. Are you actually accusing Ballmer of sexual exploitation of vulnerable people? Or are you saying that selling Western products to African nations is the moral equivalent thereof? Mark See http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=screw 1st entry, #19, #20, #22 for example... -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids
Mark Harrison wrote: Chris Rowson wrote: On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 22:38 +, Chris Rowson wrote: I'm hope you see me as an exploiter of innocent children for posting this here. To be honest though, I don't have an agenda or petty points to make. Despite writing in rant mode, without remembering to include the customary rant/rant tags I didn't mean to write that. Strangely I actually hope that people DO NOT see me as an exploiter of innocent children! Chris Chris, Sorry, but I am offended by the choice of language like Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids. Are you actually accusing Ballmer of sexual exploitation of vulnerable people? Or are you saying that selling Western products to African nations is the moral equivalent thereof? Mark Please don't feed the troll. -- People choose Microsoft Windows for their PC in the same manner that the citizens of Soviet Russia elected the General Secretary of the Communist Party during the cold war. Jim Kissel Open Source Migrations Limited w: http://www.osml.eu e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44(0) 8703 301044 m: +44(0) 7976 411 679 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Goodbye all
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:37:18 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Goodbye all Just a quick note to say Goodbye to all those doing good work with Ubuntu. However, I'm afraid that given that appears acceptable behaviour on this list to make accusations of exploitation and corruption, and present that in language of a sexual nature, I no longer wish to be a part of this community. M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ When did all this happen? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Do you use the forums...?
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 17:19 +, Ian Pascoe wrote: and if we don't Then you cannot take part in the Poll .. yet another reason the forums are limiting. Kind Regards, Dave Walker signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] gutsy temp issues?
just wondering if anyone is having temp issues with gutsy? i was...well i thought it was me switching on the indexing! switched it off and that seemed to work! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] medibuntu dapper packeages no longer available?
Dave Walker wrote: On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 17:33 +, Mac wrote: I've had to reinstall dapper on an old laptop, and tried to get the w32codecs from deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free but I get a 'Not Found' error. Forgive me if I'm being stupid, but have I missed something here? Are the packaged / repo no longer available? Mac Hi Mac, No it is still there, but the url has changed. It is now: deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ dapper free non-free Further information is available here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-7486ed038a9becc1dff10a24cc07a38a00d70e9f Kind Regards, Dave Walker Dave You're a star! Thanks. Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Goodbye all
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 18:20 +, Andy wrote: On 02/11/2007, STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did all this happen? I *presume* Mark is referring to the thread that evolved from this SNIP I think it's probably best if we just put this thread to bed now. Kind Regards, Dave Walker signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Goodbye all
On 11/2/07, Mark Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick note to say Goodbye to all those doing good work with Ubuntu. However, I'm afraid that given that appears acceptable behaviour on this list to make accusations of exploitation and corruption, and present that in language of a sexual nature, I no longer wish to be a part of this community. M. Sorry to see you go Mark :( The community really needs more level headed people like yourself to offset the occasional overzealous behaviour exhibited by a minority (this is not an attack on anyone!) The only advice I could offer would be to try and ignore the zealots and fan boys. It's unfortunate that the Linux community attracts this sort of user. It would be even more unfortunate if these users discorouged you from playing an active role in the community. Best of luck and hope to see you back soon. Philip -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Do you use the forums...?
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 18:07 +, Dave Walker wrote: On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 17:19 +, Ian Pascoe wrote: and if we don't Then you cannot take part in the Poll .. yet another reason the forums are limiting. Woah there cowboy. I created the poll on the forum _specifically_ to ask a question of forum members. I posted here to raise the profile of my poll. If you don't use the forums, I'm not asking you to sign up in order to vote on the poll, I'm asking people who use the forum to answer a simple question. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Goodbye all
Andy wrote: On 02/11/2007, STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did all this happen? I *presume* Mark is referring to the thread that evolved from this email: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2007-November/008836.html Full thread: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2007-November/thread.html#8836 though I can not be sure, but it does seem the most likely. (I hadn't read this myself till I did a search for Marks email to work out what we may have been referring to.). Incidentally Stone Cold the line breaks seem to be missing when I view your email (not sure if anyone else has this problem). All Stone Cold postings I've received have been virtually unreadable due to the lack of line breaks. Andy -- People choose Microsoft Windows for their PC in the same manner that the citizens of Soviet Russia elected the General Secretary of the Communist Party during the cold war. Jim Kissel Open Source Migrations Limited w: http://www.osml.eu e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44(0) 8703 301044 m: +44(0) 7976 411 679 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Do you use the forums...?
On 11/2/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 18:07 +, Dave Walker wrote:
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 17:19 +, Ian Pascoe wrote:
and if we don't
Then you cannot take part in the Poll .. yet another reason the forums
are limiting.
Woah there cowboy.
I created the poll on the forum _specifically_ to ask a question of
forum members. I posted here to raise the profile of my poll. If you
don't use the forums, I'm not asking you to sign up in order to vote on
the poll, I'm asking people who use the forum to answer a simple
question.
Cheers,
Al.
I use the wiki more than I use the forums, I still voted though :) I
joined the forums over two years ago and so far I've managed a whole 5
posts -- not too impressive.
Philip
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Goodbye all
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:11:03 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Goodbye all Andy wrote: On 02/11/2007, STONE COLD wrote: When did all this happen? I *presume* Mark is referring to the thread that evolved from this email: Full thread: though I can not be sure, but it does seem the most likely. (I hadn't read this myself till I did a search for Marks email to work out what we may have been referring to.). Incidentally Stone Cold the line breaks seem to be missing when I view your email (not sure if anyone else has this problem). All Stone Cold postings I've received have been virtually unreadable due to the lack of line breaks. Andy -- People choose Microsoft Windows for their PC in the same manner that the citizens of Soviet Russia elected the General Secretary of the Communist Party during the cold war. Jim Kissel Open Source Migrations Limited w: http://www.osml.eu e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44(0) 8703 301044 m: +44(0) 7976 411 679 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ so how i fix these line breaks? dont even know what one is? sorry off topic! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Topic Changed to Stone Cold's Email - was Re: Goodbye
Hi, See - it even b*ggerd up my outgoing mail :-) TTFN D ubuntu/uk-2007-11-02.2.tx ubuntu-uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ | Dave Restall, Computer Nerd, Cyclist, Radio Amateur G4FCU, Bodger | | Mob +44 (0) 7973 831245 Skype: dave.restall Radio: G4FCU | | email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : Not Ready Yet :-( | ++ | If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy people? | ++ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Goodbye all
I can't read anything Stone Cold writes, gave up ages ago... he must be using some strange command line utility that simply doesn't render for me... Was it something he said that caused the issue, because I'm perplexed as to why anybody should be leaving the list. I've always found it very good natured. Confused. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Freeview
Hey guys (and girls), I've been looking into FreeView today and the switch for my area isn't until 2011 (a LONG, unbearable way away). Freeview.co.uk reports my area is without any FreeView whatsoever while DigitalUK says that I can receive some channels now. It also says I'll suffer from a poor reception, that an aerial upgrade may be required and that I will have 47 TV channels/radio stations in orange status (variable reception). These are as follows: * BBC ONE * BBC TWO * BBC THREE * CBBC * BBC NEWS 24 * BBCi * BBC FOUR * Cbeebies * BBC Parliament * The Community Channel * BBC Radio 1 (radio) * 1 Xtra BBC (radio) * BBC Radio 2 (radio) * BBC Radio 3 (radio) * BBC Radio 4 (radio) * BBC Radio 5 Live (radio) * BBC Five Live Sports Extra (radio) * BBC 6 Music (radio) * BBC 7 (radio) * BBC Asian Network (radio) * Five * QVC * UK Gold (subscription only) * bid tv * price-drop.tv * UKTV Style (subscription only) * Eurosport (subscription only) * SETANTA Sports (subscription only) * Five US * Five Life * TopUp Anytime1 (subscription only) * TopUp Anytime2 (subscription only) * TopUp Anytime3 (subscription only) * Teachers' TV * Television X (subscription only) * Teletext Holidays * Teletext Games * Heat (radio) * Mojo (radio) * UKTV History * The HITS * Dave TV * Virgin 1 * TMF * Ideal World * Film 4 * ITV 2+1 * BBC World Service (radio) * The Hits Radio (radio) * Smash Hits! (radio) * KISS (radio) * Magic (radio) * Q (radio) * oneword (radio) * SMOOTH RADIO (radio) * Kerrang! (radio) * 4TV Interactive What I would like to know is what my chances are of receiving these channels at a watch-able quality. What exactly variable reception means in terms of quality. How come there's no ITV or C4. I'm not easily able to attach an aerial to the roof but a friend suggested this: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=115127doy=2m11C=SOU=strat15 I have absolutely no clue what I'm doing. I figured that some people on the mailing list would have a better idea than I do. Thanks for any help any of you can provide me with :) Jai -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Freeview
On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 00:49 +, Jai Harrison wrote: Hey guys (and girls), snip I have absolutely no clue what I'm doing. I figured that some people on the mailing list would have a better idea than I do. Thanks for any help any of you can provide me with :) Jai We were diagonsed with this as well. We got a box and it worked perfectly. No messing about with aerial replacements etc. Thing is, with freeview, you cant get bad reception. You've either got reception or nothing. It's digital, so if there;s any packet loss, something's gonna go badly wrong. Eh? How did i manage to make TV sound so geeky!? Packet loss!? -- Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Freeview
Hey guys, Will all FreeView boxes work in the same way? If so then all I need to do is borrow one from a friend and see if it works, right? Either way I'll need the aerial because I don't have one on my roof. Is the aerial I linked to a good one? Will one of those be suitable or do I need to somehow get a good one installed on the roof? Jai -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Freeview
I forgot to ask in the previous e-mail. Is a card required for Freeview like with Sky? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Freeview
Flippin heck Jai u been living under a stone? No, no card is required for freeview, it's 'free' Btw if you can get it I almost guarantee you will spend most of your time watching channels 'Dave' and 'Virgin1' - both recent additions and have decent programming :) 'Dave' has things like QI and Top Gear, and 'Virgin1' are currently running DS9 at 8pm every night, and Enterprise every few nights :D I'm a happy geek On 03/11/2007, Jai Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot to ask in the previous e-mail. Is a card required for Freeview like with Sky? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- 'In letters of gold, on a snow-white kite, I will write I Love You! And send it soaring high above you, for all to read!' RIP Billy M 1957-1997 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Freeview
On 11/3/07, Jai Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys (and girls), I've been looking into FreeView today and the switch for my area isn't until 2011 (a LONG, unbearable way away). Freeview.co.uk reports my area is without any FreeView whatsoever while DigitalUK says that I can receive some channels now. It also says I'll suffer from a poor reception, that an aerial upgrade may be required and that I will have 47 TV channels/radio stations in orange status (variable reception). These are as follows: * BBC ONE * BBC TWO * BBC THREE * CBBC * BBC NEWS 24 * BBCi * BBC FOUR * Cbeebies * BBC Parliament * The Community Channel * BBC Radio 1 (radio) * 1 Xtra BBC (radio) * BBC Radio 2 (radio) * BBC Radio 3 (radio) * BBC Radio 4 (radio) * BBC Radio 5 Live (radio) * BBC Five Live Sports Extra (radio) * BBC 6 Music (radio) * BBC 7 (radio) * BBC Asian Network (radio) * Five * QVC * UK Gold (subscription only) * bid tv * price-drop.tv * UKTV Style (subscription only) * Eurosport (subscription only) * SETANTA Sports (subscription only) * Five US * Five Life * TopUp Anytime1 (subscription only) * TopUp Anytime2 (subscription only) * TopUp Anytime3 (subscription only) * Teachers' TV * Television X (subscription only) * Teletext Holidays * Teletext Games * Heat (radio) * Mojo (radio) * UKTV History * The HITS * Dave TV * Virgin 1 * TMF * Ideal World * Film 4 * ITV 2+1 * BBC World Service (radio) * The Hits Radio (radio) * Smash Hits! (radio) * KISS (radio) * Magic (radio) * Q (radio) * oneword (radio) * SMOOTH RADIO (radio) * Kerrang! (radio) * 4TV Interactive What I would like to know is what my chances are of receiving these channels at a watch-able quality. What exactly variable reception means in terms of quality. How come there's no ITV or C4. I'm not easily able to attach an aerial to the roof but a friend suggested this: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=115127doy=2m11C=SOU=strat15 I have absolutely no clue what I'm doing. I figured that some people on the mailing list would have a better idea than I do. Thanks for any help any of you can provide me with :) Jai -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Not entirely sure on what they define as variable, but I would suggest if you do decide to buy a Freeview box.. don't buy an aerial, as you may find your current aerial is fine. At my house, I find that if it rains, then the signal starts going bad. By bad, it goes a little blocky and stuttery - not unlike Real player ;-) Kris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
