Re: [ubuntu-uk] Amusing typo
On 2008-03-08, Steve Cook wrote: > Just started upgrading to Hardy, and noticed the following rather > amusing typo > > retching file 17... :-) Downloaded something indigestable. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Minimal, Lighttpd, Perl CGI, PHP and & MySQL with Tiny Memory
Ah ignore previous posting -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Oakley Sent: 06 March 2008 21:27 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Minimal, Lighttpd, Perl CGI, PHP and & MySQL with Tiny Memory Kris Douglas wrote: > Sounds cool, but I bet there are much better replacements for MySQL, > like Postgres, which runs in quite a low mem footprint. Indeed - and I'd start with SQLite which requires no server and is built-in to PHP. My aim was to maintain compatibility with the vast number of ready-made PHP applications that use MySQL, though. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Minimal, Lighttpd, Perl CGI, PHP and & MySQL with Tiny Memory
Just catching up on mails. What about SQLite instead? Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Douglas Sent: 06 March 2008 17:38 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Minimal, Lighttpd, Perl CGI,PHP and & MySQL with Tiny Memory On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Andrew Oakley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've written a guide to installing Ubuntu Server, Lighttpd (an > alternative to the Apache web server), Perl CGI, PHP and & MySQL on a > machine (or virtual machine) with 64MB of memory or less. > > http://www.aoakley.com/articles/2008-03-06-ubuntu-minimal-memory.php > > Comments very much appreciated, in particular the MySQL config. > > Although Ubuntu does provide a LAMP default install in Ubuntu Server > edition, this requires 256MB memory. In particular, Apache and > especially the default MySQL install are real memory hogs, and are > designed for reasonably heavy-use environments. I saw around 200MB RAM > in use with no users connected! > > My config, in contrast, is designed for test/development environments or > very low-use websites, typically serving no more than 6 concurrent users > and only simple SQL requests. My tests under Ubuntu 6 LTS Server showed > less than 34MB of memory in use. > > In particular, my config is suitable for very cheap VPS hosting accounts > such as vpsville.ca , tektonic.net , cheapvps.co.uk and so forth - > basically your own root-access Internet server for less than five quid a > month! Sounds cool, but I bet there are much better replacements for MySQL, like Postgres, which runs in quite a low mem footprint. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] SwapBoost - A great idea or a terrible misgiving?
Yep you make a lot of sense. So to go one step further does Linux have something like prefetch(taking flash memory out of the picture)? Kind regards, Jimbo. Sent from my iPhone On 8 Mar 2008, at 18:41, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 17:10 +, James Saveker wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Whilst browsing the interweb today I came across this shell script >> called SwapBoost. >> >> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/02/swapboost-v01alpha-early-testers-wanted/ >> > > > > Everything you've said has already been posted in comments to his site > as far as I can see. Although many are somewhat rude and misguided > (flash doesn't have _that_ short a life), they have a point. > >> So I guess my question is do you think that even though this chap >> may be >> a little wrong in his approach the basic premise would benefit some >> Linux users on older systems lacking lot's of RAM? >> > > Nope, not really. It's much better to load less stuff in RAM or have > more RAM than load to much and have to swap all the time. > > Cheers, > Al. > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] SwapBoost - A great idea or a terrible misgiving?
James Saveker wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Whilst browsing the interweb today I came across this shell script > called SwapBoost. > > http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/02/swapboost-v01alpha-early-testers-wanted/ > > The gentleman who wrote it appears to believe it emulates Windows > Vista's "ReadyBoost" technology. > > - From what I can tell ReadyBoost does an awful lot more than act as more > page memory.. it uses the Windows SuperFetch technology to monitor your > usage habits and load apps you are going to be using in to system memory > prior to you launching them. So it's kinda more like an intelligent cache. > > So I guess my question is do you think that even though this chap may be > a little wrong in his approach the basic premise would benefit some > Linux users on older systems lacking lot's of RAM? > > Just my $0.02 > > Jimbo. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFH0siGdhSJLTwZPzIRAhYZAJ4kNEUFLd6RikuDTzO5xjM45Dkd9ACfWl6g > ibPVGQ3WLS6OUvC79H2N40Y= > =95kh > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > I'm not sure that readyboost is very good, It seems like a bit of a bodge/another 'revolutionary' feature. Ram is very cheap, and even vista does not use more than can be cheaply bought. Flash wear may be an issue, as I suspect it would be very write heavy. I use a SD card as swap in my eee to save excessive writes to the SSD in it, just as a precaution (I suspect that it would be fine without) I do have a USB flash drive is starting to fail, this was a very cheap one and has seen a lot of use, so I guess I can't be too grumpy. Mj -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Any interest in a Packaging Jam/Bug Jam?
Hi all, You may have heard about Packaging Jams. These are sessions which give you a face to face opportunity to learn about packaging. Here's a couple of links about them: http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=1082 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/RunningPackagingJam There are also Bug Jams, where a group of people come together to work on triaging and squashing bugs. This is especially important work in the run up to Hardy. I'd like to gauge the interest level of people in the group for this. Would you be interested in attending one of these sessions? Would you be interested in doing both in a day, or just one? Obviously we have to come up with a location, but I'd like to see if anyone is interested before thinking about that. Thanks, James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] SwapBoost - A great idea or a terrible misgiving?
On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 17:10 +, James Saveker wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Whilst browsing the interweb today I came across this shell script > called SwapBoost. > > http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/02/swapboost-v01alpha-early-testers-wanted/ > Everything you've said has already been posted in comments to his site as far as I can see. Although many are somewhat rude and misguided (flash doesn't have _that_ short a life), they have a point. > So I guess my question is do you think that even though this chap may be > a little wrong in his approach the basic premise would benefit some > Linux users on older systems lacking lot's of RAM? > Nope, not really. It's much better to load less stuff in RAM or have more RAM than load to much and have to swap all the time. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] SwapBoost - A great idea or a terrible misgiving?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Whilst browsing the interweb today I came across this shell script called SwapBoost. http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/02/swapboost-v01alpha-early-testers-wanted/ The gentleman who wrote it appears to believe it emulates Windows Vista's "ReadyBoost" technology. - From what I can tell ReadyBoost does an awful lot more than act as more page memory.. it uses the Windows SuperFetch technology to monitor your usage habits and load apps you are going to be using in to system memory prior to you launching them. So it's kinda more like an intelligent cache. So I guess my question is do you think that even though this chap may be a little wrong in his approach the basic premise would benefit some Linux users on older systems lacking lot's of RAM? Just my $0.02 Jimbo. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH0siGdhSJLTwZPzIRAhYZAJ4kNEUFLd6RikuDTzO5xjM45Dkd9ACfWl6g ibPVGQ3WLS6OUvC79H2N40Y= =95kh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Amusing typo
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Johnathon Tinsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - "Kris Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Steve Cook > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Just started upgrading to Hardy, and noticed the following rather > > > amusing typo > > > > > > retching file 17... :-) > > > > > > steve > > > > Sweet.. :-) > > > > Sounds like need to run a nice Microsoft spell check on the code. =] > > -- > > No.. sounds like someone DID run a nice Microsoft spell check on the code :P Hah, agreed. "It looks like you're writing a live update manager, would you like some help?" -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Amusing typo
- "Kris Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Steve Cook > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just started upgrading to Hardy, and noticed the following rather > > amusing typo > > > > retching file 17... :-) > > > > steve > > Sweet.. :-) > > Sounds like need to run a nice Microsoft spell check on the code. =] > -- No.. sounds like someone DID run a nice Microsoft spell check on the code :P -- Blog: http://www.kirrus.co.uk UK Plone Hosting: http://www.plone-hosting.co.uk RPG: Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5. http://ds5.brisub.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Amusing typo
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Steve Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just started upgrading to Hardy, and noticed the following rather > amusing typo > > retching file 17... :-) > > steve Sweet.. :-) Sounds like need to run a nice Microsoft spell check on the code. =] -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Amusing typo
Just started upgrading to Hardy, and noticed the following rather amusing typo retching file 17... :-) steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron Alpha 6
On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 17:25 +, Michael Holloway wrote: > Hi Everyone > > Hardy Heron is nearly here - Just a month and a half(ish) till final > release! > > I see Alpha 6 is available. Has anyone tried it. How buggy/unusable is > it for the Desktop? Hi, I've been running Hardy for a while now, and had very few major problems. Hardy is still zipping along at a fast pace, so there is still a possibility of getting a broken system, so at this point I would say that you should only upgrade if you can revert to an older kernel (i.e. press down in grub), and handle an X that won't start. The next (I think) release will be a beta, so that should be much more stable, so if you are not happy with the above, then wait for that. Of course, if you install the alpha, you can report bugs. This will mean that they have a much greater chance of being fixed for hardy, and you'll be helping to improve the distro you use. Thanks, James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
