[ubuntu-uk] was :How to torrent on a remote machine: was:Idea- Torrents!...now :help to do this!!!!
Ok inspired by Alans idea ive decided to go ahead with this. Im just wondering if someone can write this up in a bit more clear english Also i use Ktorrent. Whats the best nslu2 to go for? from where? Im currently running gutsy but thinking of installing hardy (desktop addition). anything else i should look out for? Sorry to be a pain...i know its been explained to me already...but im not really a techie and im only starting out with buntu. :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] My Hardy problems and their fixes
I don't suppose anyone has a solution to sound in Zatto? The video works perfectly in Hardy but there's absolutely no sound. I've tried running it through padsp and killing pulse-audio in case it was a problem with that but no success. Anyone have any ideas what might be the cause and how to solve it? On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Andrew Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gavin Ford wrote: I thought it would be helpful to share the solutions I've found. Thanks for doing this! An interesting read. My only Hardy upgrade woe so far, is that my VPS server running under Virtuoso won't successfully reboot after upgrade from Dapper Server to Hardy Server. I suspect this is a Virtuoso configuration issue. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to torrent on a remote machine
cool these are great starting points !!! I will start reading... To be continued.:) On 01/05/2008, Andrew Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Javad Ayaz wrote: Sorry to be a pain...i know its been explained to me already...but im not really a techie and im only starting out with buntu. :) It's great to have new people who are enthusiastic about Ubuntu. You might want to hold back from replying to each and every post, though, until you have read through the suggestions and spent a few hours trying them out ;-) i use Ktorrent. Whats the best nslu2 to go for? from where? Im currently I think you're fundamentally not understanding what an NSLU2 is. An NSLU2 is a very small type of headless server. Headless means that it runs WITHOUT a monitor. There is no desktop, and usually no keyboard nor mouse either. So you can't run Ktorrent, because there is nothing to display it on [1]. An NSLU2 has a Cat5 ethernet socket, for the network, and two USB sockets, typically used for external hard disk drives. And that's it. It's about the size of two CD cases. No VGA socket, so there is nowhere to connect a monitor to. So that begs the question... how do you use it, if there's no monitor, no mouse and no keyboard? The answer is, you connect to it from ANOTHER computer over the network, using either a web browser or the command line (the command line is also known as the terminal, the CLI command line interpreter, the shell or ssh [2]). You can access the command line in Ubuntu from the Applications menu - Accessories - Terminal. The web browser connection is fine if all you want to do is share an external USB drive over the network, but you won't be able to run torrents from the web browser. If you want to run torrents, you'll need install Debian Linux on it, which can only be done from the command line. What you want to do is pretty advanced (downloading torrents from an NSLU2). What I'd recommend is to learn to walk before you try to run. You will need to get used to using the command line first. You can practice using the command line on your existing Ubuntu machine. So, spend a couple of days learning how to use the command line: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885 Next, install GNU Screen, so that programs you run on the command line can continue to work even when you close the terminal window: sudo apt-get install screen Learn how to use GNU Screen here: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 Then try installing and using a web browser and a bittorrent client that you can use entirely and soley from the command line: sudo apt-get install bittorrent sudo apt-get install elinks For example, you could use these tools to download the Hardy install CD: screen elinks http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent; btdownloadheadless.py ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent You can practice this on your existing Ubuntu desktop machine using the Terminal, before you buy an NSLU2. [1] Not strictly true - you could run a remote desktop using X-server or KDE over VNC. But that's WAY too advanced for today, and very difficult to achieve on an NSLU2. [2] There are technical differences between a terminal, a command line, a shell and an SSH session. Again, WAY too advanced for today. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] was :How to torrent on a remote machine: was:Idea- Torrents!...now :help to do this!!!!
On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 09:26 +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote: Ok inspired by Alans idea ive decided to go ahead with this. Yay! By this I guess you mean make a machine which I can use for torrenting when my desktop is switched off? Im just wondering if someone can write this up in a bit more clear english this? Also i use Ktorrent. On a desktop system running Kubuntu, that's not susprising. However if you want a very small, low power, low noise device which is _only_ going to be downloading torrents then installing the full KDE desktop is massive overkill. I appreciate that you're not an expert with *buntu but having a command line based system (maybe based on an nslu2) would be pretty easy to do, and the vast majority of instructions have already been provided in that lengthy mail I already sent. Whats the best nslu2 to go for? The nslu2 is a specific device from Linksys. Other small-form-factor machines are available. Personally I just use an old PC, but I did provide links to other options yesterday. from where? http://www.linutop.com/ http://aleutia.com/ http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40_trksid=m37satitle=nslu2 Whilst the lintop and aleutia will come with linux and a graphical environment pre-installed, the nslu2 will probably not, and might end up being more work. http://www.nslu2-linux.org/ has lots of info about the slug (nslu2). Im currently running gutsy but thinking of installing hardy (desktop addition). anything else i should look out for? Again, running a full graphical desktop is somewhat overkill for a single function device. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to torrent on a remote machine
Javad Ayaz wrote: Sorry to be a pain...i know its been explained to me already...but im not really a techie and im only starting out with buntu. :) It's great to have new people who are enthusiastic about Ubuntu. You might want to hold back from replying to each and every post, though, until you have read through the suggestions and spent a few hours trying them out ;-) i use Ktorrent. Whats the best nslu2 to go for? from where? Im currently I think you're fundamentally not understanding what an NSLU2 is. An NSLU2 is a very small type of headless server. Headless means that it runs WITHOUT a monitor. There is no desktop, and usually no keyboard nor mouse either. So you can't run Ktorrent, because there is nothing to display it on [1]. An NSLU2 has a Cat5 ethernet socket, for the network, and two USB sockets, typically used for external hard disk drives. And that's it. It's about the size of two CD cases. No VGA socket, so there is nowhere to connect a monitor to. So that begs the question... how do you use it, if there's no monitor, no mouse and no keyboard? The answer is, you connect to it from ANOTHER computer over the network, using either a web browser or the command line (the command line is also known as the terminal, the CLI command line interpreter, the shell or ssh [2]). You can access the command line in Ubuntu from the Applications menu - Accessories - Terminal. The web browser connection is fine if all you want to do is share an external USB drive over the network, but you won't be able to run torrents from the web browser. If you want to run torrents, you'll need install Debian Linux on it, which can only be done from the command line. What you want to do is pretty advanced (downloading torrents from an NSLU2). What I'd recommend is to learn to walk before you try to run. You will need to get used to using the command line first. You can practice using the command line on your existing Ubuntu machine. So, spend a couple of days learning how to use the command line: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885 Next, install GNU Screen, so that programs you run on the command line can continue to work even when you close the terminal window: sudo apt-get install screen Learn how to use GNU Screen here: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 Then try installing and using a web browser and a bittorrent client that you can use entirely and soley from the command line: sudo apt-get install bittorrent sudo apt-get install elinks For example, you could use these tools to download the Hardy install CD: screen elinks http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent; btdownloadheadless.py ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent You can practice this on your existing Ubuntu desktop machine using the Terminal, before you buy an NSLU2. [1] Not strictly true - you could run a remote desktop using X-server or KDE over VNC. But that's WAY too advanced for today, and very difficult to achieve on an NSLU2. [2] There are technical differences between a terminal, a command line, a shell and an SSH session. Again, WAY too advanced for today. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to torrent on a remote machine
Andrew Oakley wrote: Next, install GNU Screen, so that programs you run on the command line can continue to work even when you close the terminal window: sudo apt-get install screen Learn how to use GNU Screen here: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 I often SSH to my home computer and want to run and monitor certain programs (like bittorrent), and find VNC slow, and have had troubles with NX. From previous posts I have seen that screen is really what I want, so thanks for the link, I now have somewhere to start learning. Just a side note, it's great to have such lengthy detailed posts in reply to questions that are brought up. I'm sure many more people than just the original poster benefit from them (I guess this is the point of a mailing list!). Tom -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Port 2000 on Ubuntu
hello, I installed nessus on one ubuntu machine, and set the target to another ubuntu machine on the lan, after it finished, the report had a lot of warning and threats, but I assume they are ok, as they are services i know, and that i want running, one thing worried is a service running on port 2000, nessus said it's sometimes used by trojan horses, my first test was to access the server on that port with a web browser (epiphany) the reponse was a file download eX87YDOb.exe.part, which got me really worried now! running sudo netstat -n -tap | grep 2000 returns tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:20000.0.0.0:* LISTEN 6096/inetd so if it's inetd, where does that file download come from?? should i be worried? any links on what to do when you think your machine is compromised? Thanks in advance, Seif A. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Port 2000 on Ubuntu
Seif, Seif Attar wrote: I installed nessus on one ubuntu machine, and set the target to another ubuntu machine on the lan, after it finished, the report had a lot of warning and threats, but I assume they are ok, as they are services i know, and that i want running, one thing worried is a service running on port 2000, nessus said it's sometimes used by trojan horses, my first test was to access the server on that port with a web browser (epiphany) the reponse was a file download eX87YDOb.exe.part, which got me really worried now! running sudo netstat -n -tap | grep 2000 returns tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:20000.0.0.0:* LISTEN 6096/inetd so if it's inetd, where does that file download come from?? should i be worried? any links on what to do when you think your machine is compromised? Have a look in /etc/services to see what service port 2000 is known by. On my system, it says 'Seive mail filter daemon'. Also look in /etc/inetd.conf to see what inetd is listening for and what it invokes when a connection is received on port 2000. HTH. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold,Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6093 Head of IT Security,Fax: +44 (0) 870 136 1004 University of Manchester, Mob: +44 (0) 773 330 0039 Manchester M13 9PL. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to torrent on a remote machine
Thomas Ibbotson wrote: big snip Just a side note, it's great to have such lengthy detailed posts in reply to questions that are brought up. I'm sure many more people than just the original poster benefit from them I'd like to concur wholeheartedly with what Tom says - and thank Andrew for troubling to compose a really useful, educative contribution that I'm sure many of the less-expert (like me!) found very clear and helpful. Thanks, Andrew, for doing your bit to help us up a rung on the ladder of our learning! Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Port 2000 on Ubuntu
On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 12:02 +0100, Tony Arnold wrote: Seif, Seif Attar wrote: I installed nessus on one ubuntu machine, and set the target to another ubuntu machine on the lan, after it finished, the report had a lot of warning and threats, but I assume they are ok, as they are services i know, and that i want running, one thing worried is a service running on port 2000, nessus said it's sometimes used by trojan horses, my first test was to access the server on that port with a web browser (epiphany) the reponse was a file download eX87YDOb.exe.part, which got me really worried now! running sudo netstat -n -tap | grep 2000 returns tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:20000.0.0.0:* LISTEN 6096/inetd so if it's inetd, where does that file download come from?? should i be worried? any links on what to do when you think your machine is compromised? Have a look in /etc/services to see what service port 2000 is known by. On my system, it says 'Seive mail filter daemon'. Also look in /etc/inetd.conf to see what inetd is listening for and what it invokes when a connection is received on port 2000. the relevant line in /etc/inetd.conf is: 2000 nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/images/amd64.img just googled what nndrootd does, and i guess mythtv installed it? or it's used by it. if i open the address host:2000 in a browser on a remote machine, i get an exe.part file, if i do it localy, iget a bin.part file, i ran strings on the files hoping to find something useful, all it had was NBDMAGIC, why is inetd and ltsp returning these files? is this normal behaviour? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Port 2000 on Ubuntu
Seif Attar wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 12:02 +0100, Tony Arnold wrote: Seif, Seif Attar wrote: I installed nessus on one ubuntu machine, and set the target to another ubuntu machine on the lan, after it finished, the report had a lot of warning and threats, but I assume they are ok, as they are services i know, and that i want running, one thing worried is a service running on port 2000, nessus said it's sometimes used by trojan horses, my first test was to access the server on that port with a web browser (epiphany) the reponse was a file download eX87YDOb.exe.part, which got me really worried now! running sudo netstat -n -tap | grep 2000 returns tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:20000.0.0.0:* LISTEN 6096/inetd so if it's inetd, where does that file download come from?? should i be worried? any links on what to do when you think your machine is compromised? Have a look in /etc/services to see what service port 2000 is known by. On my system, it says 'Seive mail filter daemon'. Also look in /etc/inetd.conf to see what inetd is listening for and what it invokes when a connection is received on port 2000. the relevant line in /etc/inetd.conf is: 2000 nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/images/amd64.img just googled what nndrootd does, and i guess mythtv installed it? or it's used by it. if i open the address host:2000 in a browser on a remote machine, i get an exe.part file, if i do it localy, iget a bin.part file, i ran strings on the files hoping to find something useful, all it had was NBDMAGIC, why is inetd and ltsp returning these files? is this normal behaviour? I'm afraid I don't know anything about mythtv or ltsp! You could comment out the line in inetd.conf and restart inetd and see if anything breaks! Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold,Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6093 Head of IT Security,Fax: +44 (0) 870 136 1004 University of Manchester, Mob: +44 (0) 773 330 0039 Manchester M13 9PL. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Port 2000 on Ubuntu
Hi Seif, On 1 May 2008, at 12:18, Seif Attar wrote: snip 2000 nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/images/ amd64.img That looks like an artifact from LTSP (http://www.ltsp.org/). I suspect someone has installed it into /opt (from parsing that line above). That .img file is probably an etherboot image or suchlike for booting via PXE. I have never installed the ubuntu package for LTSP so I don't know if it would put it's files in /opt but I would assume no and that it's been manually installed. just googled what nndrootd does, and i guess mythtv installed it? or it's used by it. if i open the address host:2000 in a browser on a remote machine, i get an exe.part file, if i do it localy, iget a bin.part file, i ran strings on the files hoping to find something useful, all it had was NBDMAGIC, why is inetd and ltsp returning these files? is this normal behaviour? Did you install LTSP? If not then it looks like someone has, otherwise it's normal. Does anyone else have access to that box? Cheers Huw -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Bacteria in your PC
(Which Report: Bacteria in your PC http://www.which.co.uk/reports_and_campaigns/computers_and_internet/reports/computers/computer_advice/How%20to%20clean%20your%20PC/How_to_clean_your_PC_657_136984_3.jsp ) Should we install those hand-washing facilities they use in hospitals by our PCs? Makes you wonder what kind of trojans and worms you're getting too :-) Forgot this bit: If you look at what grows on computer keyboards, and hospitals are worse, believe it or not, it's more or less a reflection of what's in your nose and in your gut, Luvverly - ice cream with that? (The Enquirer link http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/01/toilet-seats-cleaner-keyboards) Eddie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ripping and converting a dvd!
Hi, A bit of a weird one this. I want to rip a DVD and then convert it to avi. Only thing is i have media centre pc and in that pc i have a dual core 6600. Coz of lack of space it gets extremely hot..and is automatically set to shut down when it reaches a certain temp ( tht temp being 80 deg). So basically i want something that whilst converting and ripping i can pauselet the temp cool down a bit...and then resume after. Its prob a long shot...but i thought worth a try!!! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ripping and converting a dvd!
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 02:52:57PM +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote: A bit of a weird one this. I want to rip a DVD and then convert it to avi. Only thing is i have media centre pc and in that pc i have a dual core 6600. Coz of lack of space it gets extremely hot..and is automatically set to shut down when it reaches a certain temp ( tht temp being 80 deg). So basically i want something that whilst converting and ripping i can pauselet the temp cool down a bit...and then resume after. If you're using a two pass mencoder type method, couldn't you just do it step by step with a tea break? Pass one, have a cuppa, maybe some toast, read a book if it's really hot, then run pass two. This howto is very good, ignore the emerge stuff, that's gentoo specific, the Ubuntu equivalent is: sudo aptitude install mencoder The HowTo: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Rip_DVD_mencoder Just follow the stuff under Xvid and ignore all the H264 stuff for now. Its prob a long shot...but i thought worth a try!!! Always worth asking, you never know who has been through the same thing and figured it out. -- Gav Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://revford.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk I think we need to: Calibrate the kettle deflector signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bacteria in your PC
Eddie Armstrong wrote: (Which Report: Bacteria in your PC http://www.which.co.uk/reports_and_campaigns/computers_and_internet/reports/computers/computer_advice/How%20to%20clean%20your%20PC/How_to_clean_your_PC_657_136984_3.jsp ) Should we install those hand-washing facilities they use in hospitals by our PCs? Makes you wonder what kind of trojans and worms you're getting too :-) Forgot this bit: If you look at what grows on computer keyboards, and hospitals are worse, believe it or not, it's more or less a reflection of what's in your nose and in your gut, Luvverly - ice cream with that? (The Enquirer link http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/01/toilet-seats-cleaner-keyboards) Eddie After reading this I managed to bite into a grape a squirt juice all over my keyboard. Shows how much I learnt. Tom -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to torrent on a remote machine
so i can install this debian via a ubuntu pc? obv il be using the screen for my buntu pc to install this...or am i doing it blindly? The NSLU2 dont really have much mem on board do they so i need a very small OS right? On 01/05/2008, Andrew Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Javad Ayaz wrote: Sorry to be a pain...i know its been explained to me already...but im not really a techie and im only starting out with buntu. :) It's great to have new people who are enthusiastic about Ubuntu. You might want to hold back from replying to each and every post, though, until you have read through the suggestions and spent a few hours trying them out ;-) i use Ktorrent. Whats the best nslu2 to go for? from where? Im currently I think you're fundamentally not understanding what an NSLU2 is. An NSLU2 is a very small type of headless server. Headless means that it runs WITHOUT a monitor. There is no desktop, and usually no keyboard nor mouse either. So you can't run Ktorrent, because there is nothing to display it on [1]. An NSLU2 has a Cat5 ethernet socket, for the network, and two USB sockets, typically used for external hard disk drives. And that's it. It's about the size of two CD cases. No VGA socket, so there is nowhere to connect a monitor to. So that begs the question... how do you use it, if there's no monitor, no mouse and no keyboard? The answer is, you connect to it from ANOTHER computer over the network, using either a web browser or the command line (the command line is also known as the terminal, the CLI command line interpreter, the shell or ssh [2]). You can access the command line in Ubuntu from the Applications menu - Accessories - Terminal. The web browser connection is fine if all you want to do is share an external USB drive over the network, but you won't be able to run torrents from the web browser. If you want to run torrents, you'll need install Debian Linux on it, which can only be done from the command line. What you want to do is pretty advanced (downloading torrents from an NSLU2). What I'd recommend is to learn to walk before you try to run. You will need to get used to using the command line first. You can practice using the command line on your existing Ubuntu machine. So, spend a couple of days learning how to use the command line: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885 Next, install GNU Screen, so that programs you run on the command line can continue to work even when you close the terminal window: sudo apt-get install screen Learn how to use GNU Screen here: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 Then try installing and using a web browser and a bittorrent client that you can use entirely and soley from the command line: sudo apt-get install bittorrent sudo apt-get install elinks For example, you could use these tools to download the Hardy install CD: screen elinks http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent; btdownloadheadless.py ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent You can practice this on your existing Ubuntu desktop machine using the Terminal, before you buy an NSLU2. [1] Not strictly true - you could run a remote desktop using X-server or KDE over VNC. But that's WAY too advanced for today, and very difficult to achieve on an NSLU2. [2] There are technical differences between a terminal, a command line, a shell and an SSH session. Again, WAY too advanced for today. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Heron and Firefox
On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 13:36 +0100, Dianne Reuby wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 08:36 +0100, Jai Harrison wrote: I don't see what the problem is. Firefox 3 Beta 5 is more efficient and more stable than Firefox 2. The main problem for us is that (as someone else has reported) we can't access online banking - this doesn't look good when trying to persuade people to switch to Ubuntu. Dianne yeah that was (and still is) a problem on iceweasel in debian etch (4.1). Had to get opera instead. === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :-P attachment: smiley-10.png-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ripping and converting a dvd!
On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 14:52 +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote: Hi, A bit of a weird one this. I want to rip a DVD and then convert it to avi. Only thing is i have media centre pc and in that pc i have a dual core 6600. Coz of lack of space it gets extremely hot..and is automatically set to shut down when it reaches a certain temp ( tht temp being 80 deg). So basically i want something that whilst converting and ripping i can pauselet the temp cool down a bit...and then resume after. Its prob a long shot...but i thought worth a try!!! install dvdrip (or dvd-rip, can't remember). It's in the repos, and once you understand what's going on, it's easy enough to use. And it has a pause button :D hope that helps === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :-P attachment: smiley-10.pngattachment: smiley-1.png-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to torrent on a remote machine
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 03:51:34PM +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote: so i can install this debian via a ubuntu pc? Before I go any further I should try and explain what Debian is. Debian is the OS Ubuntu is built from. Without Debian there would be no Ubuntu as we know it. Debian is a hugely important part of the Free Software world. The standard bearer for Freedom in software. Ubuntu is a version of Debian, built to use cutting edge versions of software and with simplicity for human users in mind. More about Debian: http://www.uk.debian.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian Understanding what Debian is, and why it is the way it is, is essential to understanding what Ubuntu is. obv il be using the screen for my buntu pc to install this...or am i doing it blindly? It's done by running the installer on the NSLU2 and connecting to it from your Ubuntu machine over the network. The NSLU2 dont really have much mem on board do they so i need a very small OS right? 32MB of RAM is plenty for the tasks you're going to set it. Without Gnome/Xorg Ubuntu, an OS Heavyweight only uses about 48MB of RAM on my machine. -- Gav Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://revford.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk I think we need to: Plug in the sonar relay signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ripping and converting a dvd!
cool... thank you matey :) 2008/5/1 Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 14:52 +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote: Hi, A bit of a weird one this. I want to rip a DVD and then convert it to avi. Only thing is i have media centre pc and in that pc i have a dual core 6600. Coz of lack of space it gets extremely hot..and is automatically set to shut down when it reaches a certain temp ( tht temp being 80 deg). So basically i want something that whilst converting and ripping i can pauselet the temp cool down a bit...and then resume after. Its prob a long shot...but i thought worth a try!!! install dvdrip (or dvd-rip, can't remember). It's in the repos, and once you understand what's going on, it's easy enough to use. And it has a pause button [image: :D] hope that helps === Farran Lee I'm only 15 [image: :-P] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to torrent on a remote machine
Javad Ayaz wrote: [in the context of creating a dedicated torrent machine from an NSLU2] so i can install this debian via a ubuntu pc? Yes. obv il be using the screen for my buntu pc to install this...or am i doing it blindly? Correct, using the screen on your Ubuntu/Kubuntu PC. You'll be using the terminal. Learn how to use the terminal on your own Ubuntu PC first, then you'll be able to connect to other machines and use the terminal to control other machines such as the NSLU2. Go to the Applications menu - Accessories - Terminal and have a look at these tutorials: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885 http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 For example, I rent a server in Texas, whilst I live in Gloucestershire. Obviously I can't see the screen in Texas from here, so I use the terminal and the ssh command to control that server from Gloucestershire. The NSLU2 dont really have much mem on board do they so i need a very small OS right? Correct. Also the NSLU2 uses a completely different type of processor, and has no hard drive - it uses USB sticks, external USB hard drives or memory cards instead. Thankfully, lots of people have already taken the trouble to create a version of the Debian operating system, stripped down and ready to use on the NSLU2. Debian is very similar to Ubuntu (Ubuntu is based on Debian) so right now, you should learn how to use the terminal in Ubuntu before worrying about all that. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Port 2000 on Ubuntu
On 1 May 2008, at 15:02, Seif Attar wrote: snip thanks for the reply, I have mythtv installed, after upgrading to hardy and option became avaiable in the mythtv control center, where you can have the master backend run as a diskless server, I enabled that and built an image (not knowing what the techonlogy behing it is :). No worries :) The package ltsp-server is installed, if i try to remove it, it tries to remove the packages mythbuntu-diskless-server, so it is mythbuntu running that service on port 2000 as for why the /opt, well ltsp is not installed there, it just stores the images in /opt/. Fair dues. snip that was scary, but i discovered new things which i like, iftop, ntop, snort, ltsp ;) thanks again :) The joys of linux! You get to learn new and exciting things. I am glad your mystery is solved. Cheers Huw -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ripping and converting a dvd!
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool... thank you matey :) 2008/5/1 Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 14:52 +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote: Hi, A bit of a weird one this. I want to rip a DVD and then convert it to avi. Only thing is i have media centre pc and in that pc i have a dual core 6600. Coz of lack of space it gets extremely hot..and is automatically set to shut down when it reaches a certain temp ( tht temp being 80 deg). So basically i want something that whilst converting and ripping i can pauselet the temp cool down a bit...and then resume after. Its prob a long shot...but i thought worth a try!!! install dvdrip (or dvd-rip, can't remember). It's in the repos, and once you understand what's going on, it's easy enough to use. And it has a pause button hope that helps === Farran Lee I'm only 15 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ If the machine is getting that hot with use, have you not looked into a way of more efficiantly cooling the device? Our tiny box has an Athlon 64 X2 5000 in it, and it runs fine.. the box is also no larger than a Sky box/ DVD player... Just a thought, but also, the package that Farran recommends sounds quite suitable for your needs, rather than running through manual configuration of encoder/decoder settings. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Company No. 6135915 Registered in England And Northern Ireland -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bacteria in your PC
Thomas Ibbotson wrote: Eddie Armstrong wrote: (Which Report: Bacteria in your PC http://www.which.co.uk/reports_and_campaigns/computers_and_internet/reports/computers/computer_advice/How%20to%20clean%20your%20PC/How_to_clean_your_PC_657_136984_3.jsp ) Should we install those hand-washing facilities they use in hospitals by our PCs? Makes you wonder what kind of trojans and worms you're getting too :-) Forgot this bit: If you look at what grows on computer keyboards, and hospitals are worse, believe it or not, it's more or less a reflection of what's in your nose and in your gut, Luvverly - ice cream with that? (The Enquirer link http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/01/toilet-seats-cleaner-keyboards) Eddie After reading this I managed to bite into a grape a squirt juice all over my keyboard. Shows how much I learnt. When I was recycling PCs I used to clean them up well. I used the original keyboards, but first, washed them (!) using a brush and some detergent. The trick was that the whole operation had to be done, circus act style, with the keyboard upside down, so not a drop went in the wrong way. No mean feat I can tell you. But - back to the story - occasionally when I turned a keyboard upside down, what seemed like a whole packet of crisps fell out. (I suspect pizza would be too big to fit between the keys) :-) -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ripping and converting a dvd!
strange that you dont get heat with that small of a box...i have a mozart thermaltake sx. normally a sensors command will give me a temp of 30 ish ...when i first installed...44 degs now adays...and thats with just typing this email now..nothing else..anyway i think its goin off topic.. :) i will try the recommended package! 2008/5/1 Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool... thank you matey :) 2008/5/1 Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 14:52 +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote: Hi, A bit of a weird one this. I want to rip a DVD and then convert it to avi. Only thing is i have media centre pc and in that pc i have a dual core 6600. Coz of lack of space it gets extremely hot..and is automatically set to shut down when it reaches a certain temp ( tht temp being 80 deg). So basically i want something that whilst converting and ripping i can pauselet the temp cool down a bit...and then resume after. Its prob a long shot...but i thought worth a try!!! install dvdrip (or dvd-rip, can't remember). It's in the repos, and once you understand what's going on, it's easy enough to use. And it has a pause button hope that helps === Farran Lee I'm only 15 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ If the machine is getting that hot with use, have you not looked into a way of more efficiantly cooling the device? Our tiny box has an Athlon 64 X2 5000 in it, and it runs fine.. the box is also no larger than a Sky box/ DVD player... Just a thought, but also, the package that Farran recommends sounds quite suitable for your needs, rather than running through manual configuration of encoder/decoder settings. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Company No. 6135915 Registered in England And Northern Ireland -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ripping and converting a dvd!
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: strange that you dont get heat with that small of a box...i have a mozart thermaltake sx. normally a sensors command will give me a temp of 30 ish ...when i first installed...44 degs now adays...and thats with just typing this email now..nothing else..anyway i think its goin off topic.. :) i will try the recommended package! Have you had taken it apart and made sure that it's not full of fluff mate ? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ripping and converting a dvd!
Javad Ayaz wrote: Hi, A bit of a weird one this. I want to rip a DVD and then convert it to avi. Only thing is i have media centre pc and in that pc i have a dual core 6600. Coz of lack of space it gets extremely hot..and is automatically set to shut down when it reaches a certain temp ( tht temp being 80 deg). So basically i want something that whilst converting and ripping i can pauselet the temp cool down a bit...and then resume after. Its prob a long shot...but i thought worth a try!!! Not sure if avidemux will do the job. You might want to look into a better cooling solution though if your box is running hot. I went for a Zalman cooler on my Pentium Dualcore E2160 (OC'd to over 3GHz) and now it's running a Phenom 9600, it's quiet and it runs well (it is all copper, it's huge and was over £30! - most I've spent on a cooler!). If I understand correctly though, Zalman do coolers specifically for media centre cases that don't have as much room. Maybe a couple of fans on fan controllers would help too. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bacteria in your PC
alan c wrote: , what seemed like a whole packet of crisps fell out. I recently recycled some PCs and gave them to members of my family - the worse part of it was cleaning the keyboards. I didn't have the courage to try your method :-) Eddie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bacteria in your PC
alan c wrote: Thomas Ibbotson wrote: Eddie Armstrong wrote: (Which Report: Bacteria in your PC http://www.which.co.uk/reports_and_campaigns/computers_and_internet/reports/computers/computer_advice/How%20to%20clean%20your%20PC/How_to_clean_your_PC_657_136984_3.jsp ) Should we install those hand-washing facilities they use in hospitals by our PCs? Makes you wonder what kind of trojans and worms you're getting too :-) Forgot this bit: If you look at what grows on computer keyboards, and hospitals are worse, believe it or not, it's more or less a reflection of what's in your nose and in your gut, Luvverly - ice cream with that? (The Enquirer link http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/01/toilet-seats-cleaner-keyboards) Eddie After reading this I managed to bite into a grape a squirt juice all over my keyboard. Shows how much I learnt. When I was recycling PCs I used to clean them up well. I used the original keyboards, but first, washed them (!) using a brush and some detergent. The trick was that the whole operation had to be done, circus act style, with the keyboard upside down, so not a drop went in the wrong way. No mean feat I can tell you. But - back to the story - occasionally when I turned a keyboard upside down, what seemed like a whole packet of crisps fell out. (I suspect pizza would be too big to fit between the keys) :-) I've heard that you can put a keyboard in a dishwasher and it comes out all shiney and still works. Can't say I've tried it as I don't personally have a dish washer and they'd kill me at work if I screwed up their dish washer! Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ripping and converting a dvd!
On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 18:33 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: Javad Ayaz wrote: Hi, A bit of a weird one this. I want to rip a DVD and then convert it to avi. Only thing is i have media centre pc and in that pc i have a dual core 6600. Coz of lack of space it gets extremely hot..and is automatically set to shut down when it reaches a certain temp ( tht temp being 80 deg). So basically i want something that whilst converting and ripping i can pauselet the temp cool down a bit...and then resume after. Its prob a long shot...but i thought worth a try!!! Not sure if avidemux will do the job. You might want to look into a better cooling solution though if your box is running hot. I went for a Zalman cooler on my Pentium Dualcore E2160 (OC'd to over 3GHz) and now it's running a Phenom 9600, it's quiet and it runs well (it is all copper, it's huge and was over £30! - most I've spent on a cooler!). If I understand correctly though, Zalman do coolers specifically for media centre cases that don't have as much room. Maybe a couple of fans on fan controllers would help too. Rob don't think avidemux takes dvds does it? I thought it was just to join videos together and convert them. Unless it can read .vob... can't help on the temperature thing - my pc has always been too old for sensors to work! === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :-P attachment: smiley-10.png-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ripping and converting a dvd!
its not :) i only recently put it together :) 2008/5/1 Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: strange that you dont get heat with that small of a box...i have a mozart thermaltake sx. normally a sensors command will give me a temp of 30 ish ...when i first installed...44 degs now adays...and thats with just typing this email now..nothing else..anyway i think its goin off topic.. :) i will try the recommended package! Have you had taken it apart and made sure that it's not full of fluff mate ? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bacteria in your PC
On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 18:50 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: alan c wrote: Thomas Ibbotson wrote: Eddie Armstrong wrote: (Which Report: Bacteria in your PC http://www.which.co.uk/reports_and_campaigns/computers_and_internet/reports/computers/computer_advice/How%20to%20clean%20your%20PC/How_to_clean_your_PC_657_136984_3.jsp ) Should we install those hand-washing facilities they use in hospitals by our PCs? Makes you wonder what kind of trojans and worms you're getting too :-) Forgot this bit: If you look at what grows on computer keyboards, and hospitals are worse, believe it or not, it's more or less a reflection of what's in your nose and in your gut, Luvverly - ice cream with that? (The Enquirer link http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/01/toilet-seats-cleaner-keyboards) Eddie After reading this I managed to bite into a grape a squirt juice all over my keyboard. Shows how much I learnt. When I was recycling PCs I used to clean them up well. I used the original keyboards, but first, washed them (!) using a brush and some detergent. The trick was that the whole operation had to be done, circus act style, with the keyboard upside down, so not a drop went in the wrong way. No mean feat I can tell you. But - back to the story - occasionally when I turned a keyboard upside down, what seemed like a whole packet of crisps fell out. (I suspect pizza would be too big to fit between the keys) :-) I've heard that you can put a keyboard in a dishwasher and it comes out all shiney and still works. Can't say I've tried it as I don't personally have a dish washer and they'd kill me at work if I screwed up their dish washer! Rob Trust me when I say apple pro keyboards don't like it. Mj -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bacteria in your PC
Rob Beard wrote: alan c wrote: Thomas Ibbotson wrote: Eddie Armstrong wrote: (Which Report: Bacteria in your PC http://www.which.co.uk/reports_and_campaigns/computers_and_internet/reports/computers/computer_advice/How%20to%20clean%20your%20PC/How_to_clean_your_PC_657_136984_3.jsp ) Should we install those hand-washing facilities they use in hospitals by our PCs? Makes you wonder what kind of trojans and worms you're getting too :-) Forgot this bit: If you look at what grows on computer keyboards, and hospitals are worse, believe it or not, it's more or less a reflection of what's in your nose and in your gut, Luvverly - ice cream with that? (The Enquirer link http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/01/toilet-seats-cleaner-keyboards) Eddie After reading this I managed to bite into a grape a squirt juice all over my keyboard. Shows how much I learnt. When I was recycling PCs I used to clean them up well. I used the original keyboards, but first, washed them (!) using a brush and some detergent. The trick was that the whole operation had to be done, circus act style, with the keyboard upside down, so not a drop went in the wrong way. No mean feat I can tell you. But - back to the story - occasionally when I turned a keyboard upside down, what seemed like a whole packet of crisps fell out. (I suspect pizza would be too big to fit between the keys) :-) I've heard that you can put a keyboard in a dishwasher and it comes out all shiney and still works. Can't say I've tried it as I don't personally have a dish washer and they'd kill me at work if I screwed up their dish washer! The get firefox video 'soap' may make you smile, then! http://www.revver.com/video/19836/give-me-the-soap/ :-) -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rhythmbox not resuming after youtube play
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 06:36 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Michael Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Josh Blacker wrote: Hi everyone, Before I submit this as a bug, just wondered if anyone could replicate this problem I have in Hardy. With firefox and rhythmbox open initially, playing something in rhythmbox, I pause rhythmbox to watch a youtube video. After watching the video (i.e. it coming to an end, closing the tab or even closing firefox), I am unable to resume playback in rhythmbox from either the otherwise working multimedia keys on my laptop or indeed from within rhythmbox, which must be restarted (forced to quit and opened again) to play any sound. One final thing - I am guessing this is a pulseaudio problem as well, so do I report against rhythmbox or pulseaudio? Test to see if you can replicate the same problem with Totem Movie Player. if the same problem happens It would be safe to rule out the bug being in rhythmbox, I'd say you should then file a bug with pulseaudio. Regards, Michael Wood (X3N on IRC) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ I have had this problem too, and doesn't seem to be affected by changing between alsa or pulseaud1io. I will do some more experimenting when I get home. Mj Thanks for the replies guys - sorry I've not been back to you, had a little exam to prepare for today so that's been my priority! Different combinations of programmes seem to affect this differently on my machine - for example, pausing a dvd to watch a youtube video (admittedly, I'm not sure why you'd want to do that!) results in no sound for youtube - so I guess it's a pulseaudio bug. -- All the best, Josh Blacker -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bacteria in your PC
Andrew Oakley wrote: Rob Beard wrote: alan c wrote: Thomas Ibbotson wrote: Eddie Armstrong wrote: http://www.which.co.uk/reports_and_campaigns/computers_and_internet/reports/computers/computer_advice/How%20to%20clean%20your%20PC/How_to_clean_your_PC_657_136984_3.jsp Oh, for heaven's sake. A new keyboard is two quid from a computer fair. You're really not saving any money, and wasting considerable effort, if you need to clean your keyboard more than once or twice a year. I have found some cheap keyboards do not last long. Ancient ones are built sturdy. I also prefer to re use and recycle if I can practically do that. It is partly a matter of principle too. The people making the new cheap keyboards are the same ones needing to buy more fuel as their factories increase in size, and putting the price up so that I cannot buy it. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
