Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google & Privacy

[Jeff Fisher]

Mac wrote:
Snip
 >there's no Scroogle search
 >on the Mozilla addins site;  but there is at Mycroft:

http://mycroft.mozdev.org/search-engines.html?name=scroogle
 
Cheers, Mac, I'll be another one using Scroogle in future.
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[ubuntu-uk] crashes

[London School of Puppetry]

I have just asked for help re the computer crashes- it seems that everything
in the top tool bar freezes- applications, places, system , updates and shut
down button, and the bottom of the page any open documents won't close- they
don't respond to the mousepad.

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[ubuntu-uk] crashing

[London School of Puppetry]

When I try to shut down the computer crashesjust started happening. Any
ideas?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Geeks and Nerds

[Tony Arnold]

Chris,

Chris Rowson wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Yishay Mor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Nerd: someone who spawns a thread on "what's the difference between a geek
>> and a nerd" on a *nux user mailing list.
> 
> 
> Very nice lol :-)
> 
> I think from the replies, plus a little reading around - the answer
> seems to be that the boundaries between geek and nerd are so blurred
> that there isn't a single authoritative definition for either.
> 
> Any other opinions? Speak now or forever hold your geek

I'm not sure about the dirfference, but you can find out more about what
a geek is and get your own geek code on www.geekcode.com. Well, it's a
bit of fun!

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Emails being sent twice

[Gordon Allott]

Louisa Parry wrote:

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 18:12 +0100, Louisa Parry wrote:
Apologies for my 'Geeks and nerds' message been sent twice - Evolution
gets a bit carried away sometimes.  Anyone know why?


I only received one message, that might be the mailing list server being 
clever though



Any ideas though?  Evo getting out of sync with our mail server maybe?


Evolutions little 'quirks' has lead to me switching to thunderbird over 
the past few weeks, I know its not a proper solution but maybe something 
to keep in mind.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New FreeRunner

[James Tait]

Tim Dobson wrote:
> I have a freerunner which I bought from www.truebox.co.uk

So what are your impressions?  I certainly take Popey's point about a
phone that "works and works well", but just how much work/grief can one
expect with the Freerunner?  The two biggest drawbacks for me are the
lack of a built-in camera and the massive start-up time, though I have
to admit I don't expect to have to cold boot it that often.  I've read
numerous reviews, tech articles and so on and I'm still not really sure
how close to "end-user ready" it is -- I've read some somewhat worrying
stuff.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Geeks and Nerds

[Chris Rowson]

> Chris Rowson wrote:
>> I think from the replies, plus a little reading around - the answer
>> seems to be that the boundaries between geek and nerd are so blurred
>> that there isn't a single authoritative definition for either.
>>
>> Any other opinions? Speak now or forever hold your geek
>
> Chris >>> Is this part of your research for a  PhD in semiotics?  ;-)
>
> Mac

I'm afraid not old bean! I'd be somewhat pushed to do a GCSE in said
subject, never mind a PhD!

No, I'm sorry to say that my sudden interest in the meaning of Geek vs
Nerd stems from a conversation with the missus lol :-D

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Geeks and Nerds

[Mac]

Chris Rowson wrote:
> I think from the replies, plus a little reading around - the answer
> seems to be that the boundaries between geek and nerd are so blurred
> that there isn't a single authoritative definition for either.
> 
> Any other opinions? Speak now or forever hold your geek

Chris >>> Is this part of your research for a  PhD in semiotics?  ;-)

Mac



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[ubuntu-uk] Emails being sent twice

[Louisa Parry]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 18:12 +0100, Louisa Parry wrote:
> 
> I once read[0] the definition as being that a geek's skills are more
> saleable (so more valuable in our current society) than a nerd's... 
> *snip*

Apologies for my 'Geeks and nerds' message been sent twice - Evolution
gets a bit carried away sometimes.  Anyone know why?

It usually happens a few hours after I've sent the original message
(it's definitely reached its destination, not floating around in my
Outbox) then hit F9 (Send/Receive) - it resends the last message I
wrote.

It doesn't happen every time I send a message/hit F9 but happens every
few days or so - more enough to be annoying especially when it's to
mailing lists or work-related stuff but not the end of the world.

Any ideas though?  Evo getting out of sync with our mail server maybe?

-louisa :)
 


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Live CD - Auto mounting existing HDs

[Iain Lane]

Ian Pascoe wrote:
> Gents and Ladies
> 
> A, hopefully, quick and simple question.
> 
> Will the Live CD auto mount NTFS HD's automatically without any help from
> the user when running Ubuntu from the CD?
> 
> I am unsure on this point as my own Windows partitions are FAT32.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Ian
> 

IIRC, you have to double click on them in Nautlius to mount - they won't
be automounted. And woe betide you if they weren't cleanly unmounted,
for then you have to run a terminal command to force it to work.

hth,
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[ubuntu-uk] Live CD - Auto mounting existing HDs

[Ian Pascoe]

Gents and Ladies

A, hopefully, quick and simple question.

Will the Live CD auto mount NTFS HD's automatically without any help from
the user when running Ubuntu from the CD?

I am unsure on this point as my own Windows partitions are FAT32.

Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Geeks and Nerds

[Chris Rowson]

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Yishay Mor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nerd: someone who spawns a thread on "what's the difference between a geek
> and a nerd" on a *nux user mailing list.

>

Very nice lol :-)

I think from the replies, plus a little reading around - the answer
seems to be that the boundaries between geek and nerd are so blurred
that there isn't a single authoritative definition for either.

Any other opinions? Speak now or forever hold your geek

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google & Privacy

[Mac]

Mac wrote:
> Since Firefox does not have 
> scroogle as a 'search engine' to add to the search bar

Sorry, this isn't true.  Or, more precisely, there's no Scroogle search 
on the Mozilla addins site;  but there is at Mycroft:

http://mycroft.mozdev.org/search-engines.html?name=scroogle

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google & Privacy

[Mac]

LeeGroups wrote:
>> Thanks, guys, for the info.
>> For anyone who prefers to use a less obvious method of searching, may I 
>> suggest using Vivismo's Clusty search engine - IE/Netscape/Mozilla 
>> plugin available at http://clusty.com/toolbar/mozilla. Found, naturally, 
>> with an extensive Google search - why hand it to monoliths on a plate?
>>
>> Jeffef
> That sounds useful, however the T&C's are a bit vague "we don't collect 
> data, but might in the future"...
> 
> I've been using Scoogle.org for a while now... they really have a 
> paranoid streak... no data collection, log deletion etc.. have a look at 
> their T&C's... :)


Thought you might be interested in the outcome of a bit of digging 
around on this.  I discovered that if you just type some search terms 
into the address bar of Firefox (as you might do by mistake, or a naive 
user, not knowing the difference between the address bar and the search 
bar, might do on purpose), Firefox passes these terms to Google, which 
returns the search results.

This somewhat surprising behaviour on Firefox's part is due to a 
Preference (see about:config) called 'keyword.URL' whose default value 
is a google search string to which the words you enter get passed.

However, you can change the value of 'keyword.URL' to

https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi?Gw=

and this will pass the words to a secure scroogle search.

This is more than just a fix for a default Firefox behaviour you might 
not like if you are bothered about Google.  Since Firefox does not have 
scroogle as a 'search engine' to add to the search bar (not surprising, 
seeing how Firefox gets a lot of financial support from Google), this 
method provides a 'workaround' that lets you do instant searches with 
Scroogle by typing search terms in the address bar.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Geeks and Nerds

[Louisa Parry]

On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 21:52 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote:
> I've been reading around this topic, but I'm not sure that there is a
> definitive answer.
> 
> A bit OT I know, but sing out if you have an opinion (or even know the
> definitive answer!)
> 
> What's the difference between a nerd and a geek?
> 
> Chris
> 

I once read[0] the definition as being that a geek's skills are more
saleable (so more valuable in our current society) than a nerd's - a
computer geek can fix your business work server or a language geek can
proofread your new sales brochure but people are unlikely to pay to to
hear a SF nerd list how much skin Scully flashes in each X-Files
episode.

I'm not sure I totally agree (I suspect that information has a
market ;) ) but think it's an interesting idea.


-louisa :)


[0] in Douglas Coupland's 1995 novel Microserfs - amusingly outdated
from a tech point of view ;)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] How 'Free' is a Linux Laptop :-)

[Eddie Armstrong]

Eddie Armstrong wrote:

This is what $600 of  free pc buys you

"The laptop will have the following configuration:
14" Refurbished unit with:
- Pentium 900 MHz
- 512 MB RAM
- 20.0+ GB Hard Drive
- Active Matrix Screen
- 24x CD-ROM or DVD drive
- Built-in 10/100 Network"

Lovely
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[ubuntu-uk] How 'Free' is a Linux Laptop :-)

[Eddie Armstrong]

 From Linux Certified 

"*All attendees get a Free Linux Laptop, an excellent tool for 
post-class learning! *"
and later:
"FEE : $1299 (includes all class materials and Linux laptop.) This class 
is also available without the option of the laptop for $700."
Mmm?
Maybe this:
"(Regardless of which option you pick, you will be provided with a Linux 
laptop for the duration of the class.)"
is the rationalisation?

This should encourage people to trust *'free*' software.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Geeks and Nerds

[Yishay Mor]

Nerd: someone who spawns a thread on "what's the difference between a geek
and a nerd" on a *nux user mailing list.
Geek: someone who responds with cultural and historical references spanning
from ancient Mesopotamia to firefly.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google & Privacy

[Mac]

LeeGroups wrote:

> Scroogle.ORG  not  scroogle.com   :)


Doh!  Thanks for correction.  Good T&Cs on Scroogle.org.  I'll use it! 
Thanks! :-)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New FreeRunner

[Tim Dobson]

James Tait wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Need to be straight to the point, battery running low.  Someone (Popey?)
> mentioned something several months ago about a group of people getting
> New FreeRunners and a discount being available.  I'm looking to jump on
> that bandwagon -- can anyone remind me of details and whether the
> initiative is still alive?

I have a freerunner which I bought from www.truebox.co.uk

I believe it was one of the southern LUGs which was running a scheme. I 
*imagine* it has long since closed.

Looking forward to seeing you on #openmoko & stuff - the freerunner is 
one cool piece of kit!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs

[Tony Travis]

John Levin wrote:
> Rob Beard wrote:
> 
>> I'm with Vivaciti who are an Enta reseller.  I can highly recommend 
>> Enta.  You might want to give www.ukfsn.org a look as they are Enta 
>> re-sellers who fund Open Source development with the profits, plus 
>> they're Linux friendly.
>>
> 
> I'm with UKFSN, and am quite happy with the service; enta run most of 
> the show, and they do a good job.

Hello, John.

I use UKFSN for authenticated SMTP, and email when I'm not at work. I 
did consider moving to UKFSN for ADSL, but BT locked me into another 12 
month contract when I moved house and I've stayed with them ever since.

I get a HUGE amount of spam on my UKFSN email accounts, but that's not 
really their fault. I support UKFSN's objectives, and I would like to 
see them succeed. Unfortunately, I registered for this list from work.

My 'other' email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Geeks and Nerds

[Gordon Allott]

On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 21:52 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote:

> What's the difference between a nerd and a geek?

In my experience a geek is someone who enjoys a particular subject, such
as computing or engineering or hell i don't know comic books or
something. A nerd is screech from saved by the bell

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google & Privacy

[LeeGroups]

>> I've been using Scoogle.org for a while now... they really have a 
>> paranoid streak... no data collection, log deletion etc.. have a look at 
>> their T&C's... :)
>> 
>
> I just went to www.scoogle.com, and there is a search box there, but the 
> site and the searches it returns seem buried under mounds of commercial 
> and advertising links.  The page I saw had no information at all about 
> the site itself, and certainly no T&Cs.  Am I looking at the right site?
>
> Mac
Scroogle.ORG  not  scroogle.com   :)

The .com appears to be someone hoping to pick up free advertising from 
the .org...


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] (OT) routers capable of full bridge mode.

[Alan Pope]

On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 09:35:25AM +0100, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:
> Sounds perfect.
> 
> I've got a static IP at the moment, but I'm trying to persuade my ISP  
> to provision me with a block of 4 statics for various servers I'm  
> running from my garage!
> 

4 isn't many and probably isn't enough.

You'll lose one to the default gateway, one will be the network address and 
one will be broadcast. So you'll end up with one :)

Get a block of 8 and then you'll have 5 usable.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] (OT) routers capable of full bridge mode.

[Matthew Macdonald-Wallace]

Quoting Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 07:34:11AM +,   
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Hi all, does anyone know of a reasonably cheap routes that will do   
>> full bridge mode? Thanks, matt.
>
> I used to use a Thompson Speedtouch V4 in full bridged mode. Not sure if
> this is what you want but it is an ADSL modem / router. I had it setup in
> bridged mode so that I could use multiple IP addresses which were managed by
> the ipcop running PC behind the router, rather than the router itself.

Sounds perfect.

I've got a static IP at the moment, but I'm trying to persuade my ISP  
to provision me with a block of 4 statics for various servers I'm  
running from my garage!

Cheers Al,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] (OT) routers capable of full bridge mode.

[Alan Pope]

On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 07:34:11AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all, does anyone know of a reasonably cheap routes that will do full 
> bridge mode? Thanks, matt. 

I used to use a Thompson Speedtouch V4 in full bridged mode. Not sure if 
this is what you want but it is an ADSL modem / router. I had it setup in 
bridged mode so that I could use multiple IP addresses which were managed by 
the ipcop running PC behind the router, rather than the router itself.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New FreeRunner

[Alan Pope]

On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 01:26:14AM +0100, James Tait wrote:
> Need to be straight to the point, battery running low.  Someone (Popey?)
> mentioned something several months ago about a group of people getting
> New FreeRunners and a discount being available.  I'm looking to jump on
> that bandwagon -- can anyone remind me of details and whether the
> initiative is still alive?
> 

There are a few initiatives of people grouping together to get a freerunner. 

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales

Personally I'm not getting one any time soon. Having played with a Neo 1973 
and been on the openmoko mailing list, it's not for me. Instead I got a 
Nokia N82 which has a few features the OpenMoko doesn't, and more 
importantly - works and works reliably - which for me is more important in a 
phone than "Runs Linux".

Cheers,
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