Re: [ubuntu-uk] HP Netbook release based on Ubuntu

2009-02-06 Thread Rob Beard
On 06/02/2009 20:10, Matt Jones wrote:
> Except HP won't be selling any linux versions in the UK anymore. It 
> does look very nice.
Was gonna say, funny that since HP are no longer going to sell Linux 
netbooks.  I thought the only Linux netbook they had out had OpenSuSE on 
anyway?

I think I'll stick with my Heinz, um... I mean Acer...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] HP Netbook release based on Ubuntu

2009-02-06 Thread Matt Jones
Except HP won't be selling any linux versions in the UK anymore. It does
look very nice.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Chris Rowson wrote:

> You may have seen this already, but I hadn't and thought it was pretty
> good!
>
>
> http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/02/04/hp-releases-netbook-interface-for-ubuntu/
>
> HP have managed to make Ubuntu look very pretty indeed, and if you've got a
> PC you'd like to install the theme on, you can do that too...
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1021351
>
> Chris
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[ubuntu-uk] HP Netbook release based on Ubuntu

2009-02-06 Thread Chris Rowson
You may have seen this already, but I hadn't and thought it was pretty good!

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/02/04/hp-releases-netbook-interface-for-ubuntu/

HP have managed to make Ubuntu look very pretty indeed, and if you've got a
PC you'd like to install the theme on, you can do that too...
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1021351

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is it Windows 7 or KDE 4?

2009-02-06 Thread Harry Rickards
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:44:46 +, Rob Beard  wrote:
> On 06/02/2009 17:59, Paul Sutton wrote:
>> 
>>
>> Thomas Ibbotson wrote:
>>
>>> Chris Rowson wrote:
>>>  

http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm

 Chris

>>> One of the applications they showed off there was Amarok. Personally I
>>> don't find that easy to use. I installed it to have a play, decided I'd
>>> like to randomly play all my tracks, and couldn't find a button to do
>>> that. The only way I could find to do it was to Ctrl-A to select all
the
>>> tracks in the collection and add them to the playlist. I then spent a
>>> while finding the button to turn random on. Found it pressed it,
pressed
>>> play and some time later realised that my tracks were playing in order,
>>> not randomly. At that point I did just what one of those women did: got
>>> "het up" and turned it off. Went back to Rhythmbox which I find much
>>> more easy and intuitive to use.
>>>
>>>  
>> This is the nice thing about Linux based systems you have choice out of
>> the box :)
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
> You mean the 'virtual' box?
> 
> I don't think I've ever dug out a Linux CD out of a box... Oh hang on, I 
> did buy SuSE 5.2 with the big thick manuals a few years back.  Ahh those 
> were the days, paper manuals and all that.
> 
> Rob

At least the Virtual Box doesn't need instructions on how to open it,
unlike Vista's Box, see
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-us/help/2e680b8d-211e-41c5-a0bf-9ccc6d7e62a21033.mspx.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is it Windows 7 or KDE 4?

2009-02-06 Thread Rob Beard
On 06/02/2009 17:59, Paul Sutton wrote:
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> Thomas Ibbotson wrote:
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>> Chris Rowson wrote:
>>  
>>> http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>> One of the applications they showed off there was Amarok. Personally I
>> don't find that easy to use. I installed it to have a play, decided I'd
>> like to randomly play all my tracks, and couldn't find a button to do
>> that. The only way I could find to do it was to Ctrl-A to select all the
>> tracks in the collection and add them to the playlist. I then spent a
>> while finding the button to turn random on. Found it pressed it, pressed
>> play and some time later realised that my tracks were playing in order,
>> not randomly. At that point I did just what one of those women did: got
>> "het up" and turned it off. Went back to Rhythmbox which I find much
>> more easy and intuitive to use.
>>
>>  
> This is the nice thing about Linux based systems you have choice out of
> the box :)
>
> Paul
>
>
You mean the 'virtual' box?

I don't think I've ever dug out a Linux CD out of a box... Oh hang on, I 
did buy SuSE 5.2 with the big thick manuals a few years back.  Ahh those 
were the days, paper manuals and all that.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is it Windows 7 or KDE 4?

2009-02-06 Thread David King
An interesting video. Of course I expect we would all spot the KDE icon 
on the taskbar without being tricked into thinking it was Windows 7. But 
what it shows is that what people really want is an OS that works, is 
easy to use and does what they want. They really do not care who makes 
it or what it is called, except that most people probably still perceive 
that they need something called "Windows" on their computer because they 
believe there is no other choice.

I have used the Windows 7 beta, as a virtual machine, and I have also 
used Vista on a friend's laptop. Windows 7 is a big improvement over 
Vista, but I still prefer using any Linux over Windows 7, as it is the 
easiest to use. I have also briefly used Mac OS X in an Apple shop, and 
still think Linux is the easiest. I suppose if people really did have a 
choice when buying a PC, they are still going to go for
1. Whatever comes with the PC so long as it works
2. Or, if they know what they are doing, go for the OS that does what 
they want, including running the software they want to use or something 
that works with the hardware they have
3. Or the OS that is marketed most successfully to them.

Maybe what we really need is for PC vendors to offer a choice of various 
OSes to the end user, with demonstration models set up in the shop that 
people can try out. Of course the netbooks give users a taste of Linux, 
but the basic interfaces they use can make people think such an OS would 
not work on a proper PC.

If I had a computer shop or was running a branch of PC World, I would 
try to do that, and let each person try out each OS. Although Mac OS X 
can only be used on a Mac, but Linux is the OS that runs on any 
hardware. I would also like to offer buyers a dual-boot system, 
preinstalled on the PC they buy, either Mac OS X/Linux, Windows/Linux, 
or even two versions of Linux.

We really need to get PC sellers on our side, particularly the shops, so 
that people can try out Linux for themselves before buying a PC.

The video shows that anyone can use Linux, if they are given the 
opportunity and without being given any geeky terminology.


David King


Chris Rowson wrote:
> http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is it Windows 7 or KDE 4?

2009-02-06 Thread Rob Beard
On 06/02/2009 16:37, Harry Rickards wrote:
> It seems as though there's no official packages for Kubuntu/*buntu, but you
> can get the latest nightly build of KDE 4 (codenamed Project Neon) by
> adding the following to your sources.list:
>
> http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main
>
> and running
>
> sudo aptitude update
>
> and
>
> sudo aptitude kde-nightly
>
>
Great, has to be worth a try.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is it Windows 7 or KDE 4?

2009-02-06 Thread Paul Sutton
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Thomas Ibbotson wrote:
> Chris Rowson wrote:
>> http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm
>>
>> Chris
> One of the applications they showed off there was Amarok. Personally I 
> don't find that easy to use. I installed it to have a play, decided I'd 
> like to randomly play all my tracks, and couldn't find a button to do 
> that. The only way I could find to do it was to Ctrl-A to select all the 
> tracks in the collection and add them to the playlist. I then spent a 
> while finding the button to turn random on. Found it pressed it, pressed 
> play and some time later realised that my tracks were playing in order, 
> not randomly. At that point I did just what one of those women did: got 
> "het up" and turned it off. Went back to Rhythmbox which I find much 
> more easy and intuitive to use.
> 
This is the nice thing about Linux based systems you have choice out of
the box :)

Paul

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is it Windows 7 or KDE 4?

2009-02-06 Thread Adam Bagnall
Rob Beard wrote:
> On 06/02/2009 14:19, Chris Rowson wrote:
>   
>> http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm
>>
>> Chris
>> 
> I guess some people don't care as long as they can get what they want.  
> I'm running Windows 7 at the moment on my laptop (I dumped Vista after 
> it decided to start spooling phantom documents to my work network 
> printer).  I'm impressed, it does run quicker than Vista (a lot quicker, 
> although I am running Windows 7 64-Bit compared to Vista Home Premium 
> 32-Bit so my 4GB is fully utilised) but I'm certainly going back to 
> Ubuntu as it's more stable (I've had a couple of crashes and a BSOD 
> today, but in fairness it is a Beta).  I'm seriously consdiering KDE4 
> actually for a change.  Does anyone know if the latest release of KDE4 
> (4.2?) has any official packages for Kubuntu or is it more likely to 
> arrive in Jaunty?).
>
> Ta,
>
> Rob
>
>
>   
There are instructions here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 for 
adding kde 4.2 to Intrepid.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is it Windows 7 or KDE 4?

2009-02-06 Thread Harry Rickards
It seems as though there's no official packages for Kubuntu/*buntu, but you
can get the latest nightly build of KDE 4 (codenamed Project Neon) by
adding the following to your sources.list:

http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main

and running

sudo aptitude update

and 

sudo aptitude kde-nightly

On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:29:12 +, Rob Beard  wrote:
> On 06/02/2009 14:19, Chris Rowson wrote:
>>
http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm
>>
>> Chris
> I guess some people don't care as long as they can get what they want.  
> I'm running Windows 7 at the moment on my laptop (I dumped Vista after 
> it decided to start spooling phantom documents to my work network 
> printer).  I'm impressed, it does run quicker than Vista (a lot quicker, 
> although I am running Windows 7 64-Bit compared to Vista Home Premium 
> 32-Bit so my 4GB is fully utilised) but I'm certainly going back to 
> Ubuntu as it's more stable (I've had a couple of crashes and a BSOD 
> today, but in fairness it is a Beta).  I'm seriously consdiering KDE4 
> actually for a change.  Does anyone know if the latest release of KDE4 
> (4.2?) has any official packages for Kubuntu or is it more likely to 
> arrive in Jaunty?).
> 
> Ta,
> 
> Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is it Windows 7 or KDE 4?

2009-02-06 Thread Rob Beard
On 06/02/2009 14:19, Chris Rowson wrote:
> http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm
>
> Chris
I guess some people don't care as long as they can get what they want.  
I'm running Windows 7 at the moment on my laptop (I dumped Vista after 
it decided to start spooling phantom documents to my work network 
printer).  I'm impressed, it does run quicker than Vista (a lot quicker, 
although I am running Windows 7 64-Bit compared to Vista Home Premium 
32-Bit so my 4GB is fully utilised) but I'm certainly going back to 
Ubuntu as it's more stable (I've had a couple of crashes and a BSOD 
today, but in fairness it is a Beta).  I'm seriously consdiering KDE4 
actually for a change.  Does anyone know if the latest release of KDE4 
(4.2?) has any official packages for Kubuntu or is it more likely to 
arrive in Jaunty?).

Ta,

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is it Windows 7 or KDE 4?

2009-02-06 Thread Thomas Ibbotson
Chris Rowson wrote:
> http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm
>
> Chris
One of the applications they showed off there was Amarok. Personally I 
don't find that easy to use. I installed it to have a play, decided I'd 
like to randomly play all my tracks, and couldn't find a button to do 
that. The only way I could find to do it was to Ctrl-A to select all the 
tracks in the collection and add them to the playlist. I then spent a 
while finding the button to turn random on. Found it pressed it, pressed 
play and some time later realised that my tracks were playing in order, 
not randomly. At that point I did just what one of those women did: got 
"het up" and turned it off. Went back to Rhythmbox which I find much 
more easy and intuitive to use.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is it Windows 7 or KDE 4?

2009-02-06 Thread Matt Jones
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Chris Rowson wrote:

>
> http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm
>
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> Well from using both, the start/kde menu are very similar in a way.


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[ubuntu-uk] Is it Windows 7 or KDE 4?

2009-02-06 Thread Chris Rowson
http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm

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