Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Dobson wrote: It's naive to think that the .mov file extension refers to it being in a nonfree video format. Actually the reason get_iplayer can get the video is because the iphone (possibly one of the most drm'd devices in the world) couldnt support Windows media DRM so they made it h.264 codec video. You can find out more about this part of BBC iplayer here: http://beebhack.wikia.com You can find out about licencing issues of the h.264 codec here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264#Patents_and_GNU_Free_Software_license Just to reiterate, the decoding implementation for GNU/Linux the H.264 codec, which is used in the .mov files is freely licenced. There may be patent implications with regards to the format in the UK, but at this moment, it's not very clear... Tim === Own opinions only === ... Thanks for clearing that up. I just assumed that as h.264 support has to be manually compiled into ffmpeg in Debian and Ubuntu (it's called x264 in ffmpeg), that it was non-free. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ !E W+++ N o? K+ w--- O- M- V-PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+lQwACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GopNQCfdjCBYlnvFugkV79wJYDt36lK R+UAoMBfmgiMZChONI3nvPM22uHSomZM =ufo6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 9.04: Is the (newish) GNOME logout menu controllable by keyboard?
David M wrote: I've just upgraded both of my boxes to 9.04, and it seems (so far) to have gone reasonably smoothly, which is a great reassurance as a couple (only a few, mind you) of the previous Ubuntu upgrades have been a little hairy.. However, 9.04 has removed the Logout/Shutdown options from the System menu in GNOME, meaning that I have no alternative now but to use the newish logout menu (that was introduced in 8.10, I think). I'd got into the habit of: alt-F1 [1], and then cursoring over to System - Shutdown ..in order to shutdown my computer, but as this menu item is no longer present, is it possible to activate the new logout menu from the keyboard? I presume it must be somehow, as it would probably be Very Bad from an accessibility perspective otherwise.. (Come to that, why does keyboarding through the menus only apply to the menus themselves and not to any program icons that you may also have added to the panel?) Thanks for any advice, David. [1] an obscure enough keyboard combo by itself, which I'd only found out about because I'd read it somewhere.. It would probably be nice if the Applications menu hover tooltip mentioned the existence of this keyboard shortcut, as I'm sure few people would guess it otherwise. I asked the very same question the other day on IRC as I had the same habit. If you hit the power button on your pc/laptop it should pop up the shutdown menu, much quicker than alt+F1 followed by cursor keys :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chess Tournament?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johnathon Tinsley wrote: Hello All, For any chess lovers in ubuntu-uk, would you like a tournament? Using an online correspondence chess service, like chrss.co.uk, or yahoo's online chess system? Johnathon I'm not great at chess, but I think it would be a great idea. Chrss looks like a good site, but can you actually see the chess board on the site, or do you just have to visualise it from the moves you get from the RSS feed? - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+uq8ACgkQ1kZz3mRu0Go22gCbBHW8aWtCTSP0FF8XlGWmTn72 /UYAmwfw8Gz0xducDyhCybvt1ZaSVRcu =L6VB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Chess Tournament?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, For any chess lovers in ubuntu-uk, would you like a tournament? Using an online correspondence chess service, like chrss.co.uk, or yahoo's online chess system? Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+sgEACgkQ81bUwCB/xdhz4gCg4sIPD5Eb7pc5WNSGbuMuTjow vzUAoLFUhNMsLbg+O1SET71jKaiGSxIA =CiIJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chess Tournament?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Harry Rickards wrote: Johnathon Tinsley wrote: Hello All, For any chess lovers in ubuntu-uk, would you like a tournament? Using an online correspondence chess service, like chrss.co.uk, or yahoo's online chess system? Johnathon I'm not great at chess, but I think it would be a great idea. Chrss looks like a good site, but can you actually see the chess board on the site, or do you just have to visualise it from the moves you get from the RSS feed? I'm not brilliant either ;-) This is one of my games: http://chrss.co.uk/game/1212 You can also get email alerts of new moves, if you prefer email to RSS. All moves have to be made on the site, on the chessboard you can see above :-) Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+u+oACgkQ81bUwCB/xdiAagCdH9V9cioExeKO8zJcz8JDble2 zb4An0lW8fe5sUvZhzraLZ+qPhd69vPM =DbGX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chess Tournament?
Johnathon Tinsley wrote: Hello All, For any chess lovers in ubuntu-uk, would you like a tournament? Using an online correspondence chess service, like chrss.co.uk, or yahoo's online chess system? Johnathon Is there a similar service for Go with a Linux Go board? -- Life is too short. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chess Tournament?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johnathon Tinsley wrote: Harry Rickards wrote: Johnathon Tinsley wrote: Hello All, For any chess lovers in ubuntu-uk, would you like a tournament? Using an online correspondence chess service, like chrss.co.uk, or yahoo's online chess system? Johnathon I'm not great at chess, but I think it would be a great idea. Chrss looks like a good site, but can you actually see the chess board on the site, or do you just have to visualise it from the moves you get from the RSS feed? I'm not brilliant either ;-) This is one of my games: http://chrss.co.uk/game/1212 You can also get email alerts of new moves, if you prefer email to RSS. All moves have to be made on the site, on the chessboard you can see above :-) Johnathon Ok, thanks for explaining. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+vG0ACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GrlxgCgth3+1xcGJeD5IQ0OELEX42YY HUkAn2oL9ju+kByY/ARBvhYUfz2newQ4 =5w2T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
Michael Douglas wrote: You're certainly better off than trying to get the Windows 7 Beta, or in 2 days, the RC. It took MSFT about 10hours just to make the thing available!!! -- Mehall I had an e-mail from Microsoft today, they're making Windows 7 RC available to the 'little people' (i.e. non Technet/MSDN subscribers) tomorrow although I like what it said in the e-mail about it being available until 30th June 2009 and there are no limits on product keys or downloads, it then goes on to say... * /So you don’t need rush to make sure you get your copy. When you’re ready to download the RC, it’ll be waiting for you./* I guess they're trying to get potential downloaders to hang fire until they really want it, but I still wouldn't be surprised if they get a whole load of downloads in the first couple of days. Having just reinstalled my laptop with Vista x64 and Ubuntu 9.04 dual booting I'll hang fire I think. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
Harry Rickards wrote: Yeah, I suppose you're right, if I download it in a proprietary format anyway, I might as well watch it in one. Still, if enough people want it the BBC may provide iplayer video in OGG like they do with RD TV. I doubt of but it's worth a try. Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) Other option is to watch it on BBC News 24 when it's repeated (no doubt it will be) or if you have something like Virgin you should be able to watch it on the iPlayer that Virgin provide. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
Just to piggy back onto this, has anyone got a product key they aren't going to use? I work in an IT shop so it would be good to have some practice on it (Windows 7) Also, I think it's a bit unfair to slow the servers down just because you can. It's a free world, let people choose what software they want to use! James Milligan On 4 May 2009, at 11:55, Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob Beard wrote: Michael Douglas wrote: You're certainly better off than trying to get the Windows 7 Beta, or in 2 days, the RC. It took MSFT about 10hours just to make the thing available!!! -- Mehall I had an e-mail from Microsoft today, they're making Windows 7 RC available to the 'little people' (i.e. non Technet/MSDN subscribers) tomorrow although I like what it said in the e-mail about it being available until 30th June 2009 and there are no limits on product keys or downloads, it then goes on to say... * /So you don’t need rush to make sure you get your copy. When yo u’re ready to download the RC, it’ll be waiting for you./* I guess they're trying to get potential downloaders to hang fire until they really want it, but I still wouldn't be surprised if they get a whole load of downloads in the first couple of days. Having just reinstalled my laptop with Vista x64 and Ubuntu 9.04 dual booting I'll hang fire I think. Rob I might download the RC a few times on my VPS in America that's got roughly 10 meg/sec connection, just to slow their servers down. I'd never willing use a Microsoft product in a million years. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+yaYACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GoxzQCgnnR8Skd1l4zxjOhbIjvqeDtj iX0An0TlKZZXSj6uogWZS5TIzqgQz38I =eIPd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
Harry Rickards wrote: I might download the RC a few times on my VPS in America that's got roughly 10 meg/sec connection, just to slow their servers down. I'd never willing use a Microsoft product in a million years. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) I have a feeling you have to use their download manager to download it (it's Java based IIRC). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Milligan wrote: Just to piggy back onto this, has anyone got a product key they aren't going to use? I work in an IT shop so it would be good to have some practice on it (Windows 7) Also, I think it's a bit unfair to slow the servers down just because you can. It's a free world, let people choose what software they want to use! James Milligan On 4 May 2009, at 11:55, Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote: Rob Beard wrote: Michael Douglas wrote: You're certainly better off than trying to get the Windows 7 Beta, or in 2 days, the RC. It took MSFT about 10hours just to make the thing available!!! -- Mehall I had an e-mail from Microsoft today, they're making Windows 7 RC available to the 'little people' (i.e. non Technet/MSDN subscribers) tomorrow although I like what it said in the e-mail about it being available until 30th June 2009 and there are no limits on product keys or downloads, it then goes on to say... * /So you dont need rush to make sure you get your copy. When yo ure ready to download the RC, itll be waiting for you./* I guess they're trying to get potential downloaders to hang fire until they really want it, but I still wouldn't be surprised if they get a whole load of downloads in the first couple of days. Having just reinstalled my laptop with Vista x64 and Ubuntu 9.04 dual booting I'll hang fire I think. Rob I might download the RC a few times on my VPS in America that's got roughly 10 meg/sec connection, just to slow their servers down. I'd never willing use a Microsoft product in a million years. I've got a product key you can use, it works with the beta, so should work with the RC. It's never been used, I just got it because I did consider downloading the beta, until I saw the size. Contact me off list if you want it. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+zFUACgkQ1kZz3mRu0Gry4ACfV8arPI4qMJVSCbiLUNgaKRyM 3sYAoM5EXG+SWmrhJPdk7cXcSAICWax1 =ctKZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob Beard wrote: Harry Rickards wrote: Yeah, for some reason I always get faster speeds using BitTorrent. I was downloading something via BT the other day that took about 25 seconds to download a 200MB file, yet I only get 10 MB/s download when downloading from Cachefly's 'distributed server network' or whatever they call it now. Surely everyone should just use BitTorrent, not pay expensive fees for Content Delivery Network's. One problem I find with Bit Torrent and my ISPs (I have both a Virgin 20 Meg connection and BT Broadband Option 3) is that they seem to throttle Bit Torrent traffic, at least BT certainly do in the day, Virgin not so much (sometimes I get fairly good speeds). What gets me is that these ISPs seem to think that Bit Torrent is only used for piracy and seem to disregard that it can also be used for legitimate purposes. Luckily with Vuze I can have it running on two PCs running on both different connections (each PC uses a different gateway) and they can also share stuff over the network so it gives me a little bit of a speed up as both connections are downloading different data and sharing it (plus it means I can upload a bit quicker too). Not an ideal situation as it requires twice the disc space but it seems to work. Rob Same here. I have suspicions that my ISP (PlusNet) is throttling BitTorrent, but I'm not 100% sure. Does anyone have a packet sniffer or something that allows you to see? Luckily I just use my VPS to download stuff via BitTorrent (from FSCKVPS BTW, great prices and service), tar it up and download it via scp. Luckily PlusNet haven't blocked torrent entirely, unlike BT who blocked The Pirate Bay (http://www.paidcontent.co.uk/entry/419-bt-blocking-pirate-bay-to-mobile-users-due-to-adult-content/), but if I can get evidence that they're throttling BitTorrent, I might write to them and ask them to unthrottle it, as not all stuff is illegal. Even the BBC have their RDTV show on The Pirate Bay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37996583...@n01/3429135133/). - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+zksACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GoA0ACeJcpg9LDyCTtiyVRxWbsxMwMR PgwAoNaQ1vPATRpNqfOA1/U45PuSyP0J =3pPp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Windows 7 was Click downloaded Ubuntu
James Milligan wrote: Just to piggy back onto this, has anyone got a product key they aren't going to use? I work in an IT shop so it would be good to have some practice on it (Windows 7) Also, I think it's a bit unfair to slow the servers down just because you can. It's a free world, let people choose what software they want to use! James Milligan You should be able to register for a new key from tomorrow (looks like the older BETA keys won't work on RC). You can get as many keys as you want. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
Harry Rickards wrote: Yeah, for some reason I always get faster speeds using BitTorrent. I was downloading something via BT the other day that took about 25 seconds to download a 200MB file, yet I only get 10 MB/s download when downloading from Cachefly's 'distributed server network' or whatever they call it now. Surely everyone should just use BitTorrent, not pay expensive fees for Content Delivery Network's. One problem I find with Bit Torrent and my ISPs (I have both a Virgin 20 Meg connection and BT Broadband Option 3) is that they seem to throttle Bit Torrent traffic, at least BT certainly do in the day, Virgin not so much (sometimes I get fairly good speeds). What gets me is that these ISPs seem to think that Bit Torrent is only used for piracy and seem to disregard that it can also be used for legitimate purposes. Luckily with Vuze I can have it running on two PCs running on both different connections (each PC uses a different gateway) and they can also share stuff over the network so it gives me a little bit of a speed up as both connections are downloading different data and sharing it (plus it means I can upload a bit quicker too). Not an ideal situation as it requires twice the disc space but it seems to work. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob Beard wrote: Harry Rickards wrote: I suppose now I think of it, the CD is approx 700 MB, so multiply that b/y 8 and you get 5600 Mb. If the connection is 100 Mb/s, one copy will take roughly 56 seconds so two will take approx (I just know some broadband expert will come and give me some value I haven't factored in, like surely the ping to the server should be in there somewhere) 1 min 52 sec. Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) Well that beats the 5 minutes it takes me on my 20 Meg Virgin connection from their FTP site. I do start to wonder though that as download speeds get quicker, how long is it going to be before we hit the limit on the servers we're downloading from? I mean I was downloading some stuff from Microsoft's web site the other day and I was limited to about 800K/sec or thereabouts, of course some of this might have been related to lack of capacity during the day (I find during the day my download speed can slow down to around 1.2MB/sec from about 2.2MB/sec - thats before the traffic management kicks in) but it makes me wonder if some of these servers can cope. Still with 100MBit/sec in theory you should get REALLY good speeds using Bit Torrent to download the Ubuntu ISO. Rob Yeah, for some reason I always get faster speeds using BitTorrent. I was downloading something via BT the other day that took about 25 seconds to download a 200MB file, yet I only get 10 MB/s download when downloading from Cachefly's 'distributed server network' or whatever they call it now. Surely everyone should just use BitTorrent, not pay expensive fees for Content Delivery Network's. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+ybUACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GpCOwCeMIuVvnf96x+OLVrfsld4E86b gDYAoOrqdQtRqVPazXB82Sn+Z5GlGACT =P+9C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Windows 7 was Click downloaded Ubuntu
Thanks for that - I'll try Harry's key first and if that doesn't work I'll sign up for others. James On 4 May 2009, at 12:18, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: James Milligan wrote: Just to piggy back onto this, has anyone got a product key they aren't going to use? I work in an IT shop so it would be good to have some practice on it (Windows 7) Also, I think it's a bit unfair to slow the servers down just because you can. It's a free world, let people choose what software they want to use! James Milligan You should be able to register for a new key from tomorrow (looks like the older BETA keys won't work on RC). You can get as many keys as you want. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob Beard wrote: Michael Douglas wrote: You're certainly better off than trying to get the Windows 7 Beta, or in 2 days, the RC. It took MSFT about 10hours just to make the thing available!!! -- Mehall I had an e-mail from Microsoft today, they're making Windows 7 RC available to the 'little people' (i.e. non Technet/MSDN subscribers) tomorrow although I like what it said in the e-mail about it being available until 30th June 2009 and there are no limits on product keys or downloads, it then goes on to say... * /So you don’t need rush to make sure you get your copy. When you’re ready to download the RC, it’ll be waiting for you./* I guess they're trying to get potential downloaders to hang fire until they really want it, but I still wouldn't be surprised if they get a whole load of downloads in the first couple of days. Having just reinstalled my laptop with Vista x64 and Ubuntu 9.04 dual booting I'll hang fire I think. Rob I might download the RC a few times on my VPS in America that's got roughly 10 meg/sec connection, just to slow their servers down. I'd never willing use a Microsoft product in a million years. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+yaYACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GoxzQCgnnR8Skd1l4zxjOhbIjvqeDtj iX0An0TlKZZXSj6uogWZS5TIzqgQz38I =eIPd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
-replied off list- On 4 May 2009, at 12:07, Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Milligan wrote: Just to piggy back onto this, has anyone got a product key they aren't going to use? I work in an IT shop so it would be good to have some practice on it (Windows 7) Also, I think it's a bit unfair to slow the servers down just because you can. It's a free world, let people choose what software they want to use! James Milligan On 4 May 2009, at 11:55, Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote: Rob Beard wrote: Michael Douglas wrote: You're certainly better off than trying to get the Windows 7 Beta, or in 2 days, the RC. It took MSFT about 10hours just to make the thing available!!! -- Mehall I had an e-mail from Microsoft today, they're making Windows 7 RC available to the 'little people' (i.e. non Technet/MSDN subscribers) tomorrow although I like what it said in the e-mail about it being available until 30th June 2009 and there are no limits on product keys or downloads, it then goes on to say... * /So you dont need rush to make sure you get your copy. When yo ure ready to download the RC, itll be waiting for you./* I guess they're trying to get potential downloaders to hang fire until they really want it, but I still wouldn't be surprised if they get a whole load of downloads in the first couple of days. Having just reinstalled my laptop with Vista x64 and Ubuntu 9.04 dual booting I'll hang fire I think. Rob I might download the RC a few times on my VPS in America that's got roughly 10 meg/sec connection, just to slow their servers down. I'd never willing use a Microsoft product in a million years. I've got a product key you can use, it works with the beta, so should work with the RC. It's never been used, I just got it because I did consider downloading the beta, until I saw the size. Contact me off list if you want it. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+zFUACgkQ1kZz3mRu0Gry4ACfV8arPI4qMJVSCbiLUNgaKRyM 3sYAoM5EXG+SWmrhJPdk7cXcSAICWax1 =ctKZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Windows 7 was Click downloaded Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob Beard wrote: James Milligan wrote: Just to piggy back onto this, has anyone got a product key they aren't going to use? I work in an IT shop so it would be good to have some practice on it (Windows 7) Also, I think it's a bit unfair to slow the servers down just because you can. It's a free world, let people choose what software they want to use! James Milligan You should be able to register for a new key from tomorrow (looks like the older BETA keys won't work on RC). You can get as many keys as you want. Rob According to Lord Ba'al on NeoWin (http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/04/30/windows-7-what-has-changed-from-beta-to-release-candidate), the beta keys work fine on the RC. The beta keys work fine, no need to wait. I've also seen this on a more reputable source someone, but I can't find it. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+0BsACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GpJcgCgpZ5sQrXBLhNG/YZquxXA3C31 SY0AoO6hvK8547AmYcC/Y4KiofB7GRwJ =KGab -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
Harry Rickards wrote: I suppose now I think of it, the CD is approx 700 MB, so multiply that b/y 8 and you get 5600 Mb. If the connection is 100 Mb/s, one copy will take roughly 56 seconds so two will take approx (I just know some broadband expert will come and give me some value I haven't factored in, like surely the ping to the server should be in there somewhere) 1 min 52 sec. Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) Well that beats the 5 minutes it takes me on my 20 Meg Virgin connection from their FTP site. I do start to wonder though that as download speeds get quicker, how long is it going to be before we hit the limit on the servers we're downloading from? I mean I was downloading some stuff from Microsoft's web site the other day and I was limited to about 800K/sec or thereabouts, of course some of this might have been related to lack of capacity during the day (I find during the day my download speed can slow down to around 1.2MB/sec from about 2.2MB/sec - thats before the traffic management kicks in) but it makes me wonder if some of these servers can cope. Still with 100MBit/sec in theory you should get REALLY good speeds using Bit Torrent to download the Ubuntu ISO. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 9.04: Is the (newish) GNOME logout menu controllable by keyboard?
On Sun, 03 May 2009 23:32:54 +0100, David M lists2...@trancepod.netmx.co.uk wrote: I've just upgraded both of my boxes to 9.04, and it seems (so far) to have gone reasonably smoothly, which is a great reassurance as a couple (only a few, mind you) of the previous Ubuntu upgrades have been a little hairy.. However, 9.04 has removed the Logout/Shutdown options from the System menu in GNOME, meaning that I have no alternative now but to use the newish logout menu (that was introduced in 8.10, I think). I'd got into the habit of: alt-F1 [1], and then cursoring over to System - Shutdown ..in order to shutdown my computer, but as this menu item is no longer present, is it possible to activate the new logout menu from the keyboard? I presume it must be somehow, as it would probably be Very Bad from an accessibility perspective otherwise.. (Come to that, why does keyboarding through the menus only apply to the menus themselves and not to any program icons that you may also have added to the panel?) Thanks for any advice, David. [1] an obscure enough keyboard combo by itself, which I'd only found out about because I'd read it somewhere.. It would probably be nice if the Applications menu hover tooltip mentioned the existence of this keyboard shortcut, as I'm sure few people would guess it otherwise. On my box running Karmic here, you can press Ctrl-Alt-Del to popup a shutdown menu, although it doesn't offer an option to logout or switch users. I'm pretty sure the shortcut was in Jaunty and Intrepid as well. Daniel -- Humanity is where the falling angel meets the rising ape. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Playing embeded flash movies.
Hi, I finally took the plunge, reformatted my harddrive on my laptop, and installed Ubuntu 9.04 through wubi on an xp machine. It installed the very basic verion, so there arent any compiz capabilities, which are fine by me, at least I can use Ubuntu on my laptop now. My problem is, I am trying to watch the Ubuntu Screencasts, but it just wont play. Sometimes it wont even download onto the page, it just hangs. I have tried following some of the instructions found to install some packages, and free flash player versions, but it still wont work. Can somebody point me in the right direction, for getting flash to play on my laptop please? Thank you. John. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 9.04: Is the (newish) GNOME logout menu controllable by keyboard?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Rhodes-Mumby wrote: ... On my box running Karmic here, you can press Ctrl-Alt-Del to popup a shutdown menu, although it doesn't offer an option to logout or switch users. I'm pretty sure the shortcut was in Jaunty and Intrepid as well. Daniel Where did you get that from? I'd love to test it, but the Release Schedule say's it's not even at Alpha 1 yet. Did you just change jaunty to karmic in sources.list? Thanks - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+2q0ACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GrM3wCfXI77CxbKv4fWAf1sZdYCyoCy 1MYAoMuSEjYh4R2CM4sixSsP5iXCvkth =Qbyy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 9.04: Is the (newish) GNOME logout menu controllable by keyboard?
On Mon, 04 May 2009 13:08:13 +0100, Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Rhodes-Mumby wrote: ... On my box running Karmic here, you can press Ctrl-Alt-Del to popup a shutdown menu, although it doesn't offer an option to logout or switch users. I'm pretty sure the shortcut was in Jaunty and Intrepid as well. Daniel Where did you get that from? I'd love to test it, but the Release Schedule say's it's not even at Alpha 1 yet. Did you just change jaunty to karmic in sources.list? Thanks - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+2q0ACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GrM3wCfXI77CxbKv4fWAf1sZdYCyoCy 1MYAoMuSEjYh4R2CM4sixSsP5iXCvkth =Qbyy -END PGP SIGNATURE- That was pretty much it, yes, and as an aside this is one area where it really helps to make proper use of sources.list.d/ as well - it's far easier to simply sed the sources.list and not have to worry about changing PPAs back to the right version. I've got some minor dependency breakage, as always happens in a develop- ment release, and there aren't any noticeable changes yet. It's nice to be at the bleeding edge of things though - and with AS module exams in only a couple of weeks, and half a year's worth of politics and physics notes on this laptop, 'bleeding' could well be appropriate should some- thing break! Daniel -- Humanity is where the falling angel meets the rising ape. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rampant gnome-system-monitor!!
Hi I'm still running 8.04; a little while after installing it I found I needed to increase the default setting for updating information about file systems (Edit - Preferences - File Systems - Update interval in seconds). That fixed it for me. -- Kevin Safford -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
After all, better to have people use Ubuntu because they like it, rather than because they hate Windows. Aww... can't I use Ubuntu because I like it *and* I hate Windows? :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 LeeGroups wrote: Same here. I have suspicions that my ISP (PlusNet) is throttling BitTorrent, but I'm not 100% sure. PlusNet *do* throttle torrent traffic, it's in their TC's check here - http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/quality_broadband/speed.shtml#unlimitedspeeds It varies depending on the time of day, but at least they are totally open about it. Unlike a lot of other ISPs Lee Ok, thanks for the link. Looks like the worst time to download is 6 to 10 PM, which is probably when I'm downloading via BitTorrent most. I wonder how many ISP's acknowledge USENET still exists, let alone throttle it. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn/BcEACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GomdQCfe9fcVjnZpf1yCPIukcqhiorO TFoAoK8lA+qscR+WaTdRrSxvkTLqj2I7 =Jk/P -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
Same here. I have suspicions that my ISP (PlusNet) is throttling BitTorrent, but I'm not 100% sure. PlusNet *do* throttle torrent traffic, it's in their TC's check here - http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/quality_broadband/speed.shtml#unlimitedspeeds It varies depending on the time of day, but at least they are totally open about it. Unlike a lot of other ISPs Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
Yeah, like your little network would make any significant difference to the capabilities of Microsofts. Lets try to be realistic here. Denial of service is just another form censorship. --- On Mon, 4/5/09, James Milligan lak...@lake54.com wrote: From: James Milligan lak...@lake54.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Monday, 4 May, 2009, 12:04 PM Just to piggy back onto this, has anyone got a product key they aren't going to use? I work in an IT shop so it would be good to have some practice on it (Windows 7) Also, I think it's a bit unfair to slow the servers down just because you can. It's a free world, let people choose what software they want to use! James Milligan On 4 May 2009, at 11:55, Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob Beard wrote: Michael Douglas wrote: You're certainly better off than trying to get the Windows 7 Beta, or in 2 days, the RC. It took MSFT about 10hours just to make the thing available!!! -- Mehall I had an e-mail from Microsoft today, they're making Windows 7 RC available to the 'little people' (i.e. non Technet/MSDN subscribers) tomorrow although I like what it said in the e-mail about it being available until 30th June 2009 and there are no limits on product keys or downloads, it then goes on to say... * /So you don’t need rush to make sure you get your copy. When yo u’re ready to download the RC, it’ll be waiting for you./* I guess they're trying to get potential downloaders to hang fire until they really want it, but I still wouldn't be surprised if they get a whole load of downloads in the first couple of days. Having just reinstalled my laptop with Vista x64 and Ubuntu 9.04 dual booting I'll hang fire I think. Rob I might download the RC a few times on my VPS in America that's got roughly 10 meg/sec connection, just to slow their servers down. I'd never willing use a Microsoft product in a million years. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+yaYACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GoxzQCgnnR8Skd1l4zxjOhbIjvqeDtj iX0An0TlKZZXSj6uogWZS5TIzqgQz38I =eIPd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic Koala (9.10) Upgrade - Was: 9.04: Is the (newish) GNOME logout menu controllable by keyboard?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Rhodes-Mumby wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 13:08:13 +0100, Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote: Daniel Rhodes-Mumby wrote: ... On my box running Karmic here, you can press Ctrl-Alt-Del to popup a shutdown menu, although it doesn't offer an option to logout or switch users. I'm pretty sure the shortcut was in Jaunty and Intrepid as well. Daniel Where did you get that from? I'd love to test it, but the Release Schedule say's it's not even at Alpha 1 yet. Did you just change jaunty to karmic in sources.list? Thanks That was pretty much it, yes, and as an aside this is one area where it really helps to make proper use of sources.list.d/ as well - it's far easier to simply sed the sources.list and not have to worry about changing PPAs back to the right version. I've got some minor dependency breakage, as always happens in a develop- ment release, and there aren't any noticeable changes yet. It's nice to be at the bleeding edge of things though - and with AS module exams in only a couple of weeks, and half a year's worth of politics and physics notes on this laptop, 'bleeding' could well be appropriate should some- thing break! I agree, I like running unstable stuff. I've upgraded to Karmic Koala, but I didn't have any dependency breakage, so I'm either very lucky or don't have many packages installed compared to everyone else. Does anyone know if it's possible to have the entry's in sources.list always be for the unstable version of Ubuntu? For example, in Debian I could have unstable as the version which would download Sid, or testing which would be squeeze. Thanks. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+/PkACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GpbrgCcDPBrQULCUlcLsk4OgZqqCyJs wDAAoI9T9Sf4H0ob/zWTvEuFRbEFh1R2 =lq1A -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] [9.04]Nokia E65 returns bad CDC descriptors
I am trying to use my E65 as a modem, but Jaunty isn't recognising it properly. When I connect I get :- May 4 15:42:33 Aero kernel: [ 271.232053] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 May 4 15:42:34 Aero kernel: [ 271.430319] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 4 15:42:34 Aero kernel: [ 271.470760] cdc_acm 2-2:1.10: ttyACM0: USB ACM device May 4 15:42:34 Aero kernel: [ 271.989863] usb 2-2: bad CDC descriptors May 4 15:42:34 Aero kernel: [ 271.989882] usb 2-2: bad CDC descriptors Anybody got a solution? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John McCourt wrote: Yeah, like your little network would make any significant difference to the capabilities of Microsofts. Lets try to be realistic here. Denial of service is just another form censorship. ... I might download the RC a few times on my VPS in America that's got roughly 10 meg/sec connection, just to slow their servers down. I'd never willing use a Microsoft product in a million years. I won't make any difference on my own, but if every Ubuntu user downloaded it a couple of times I doubt the Microsoft servers would be capable. You're right though, in all seriousness I probably won't download it. After all, better to have people use Ubuntu because they like it, rather than because they hate Windows. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn++Z0ACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GoprQCfUgEcqi2onzF376FTQlcd24BQ MhcAoJIvKZad5Hq9QCtaE97fPh+bR5cz =iC7s -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
Same here. I have suspicions that my ISP (PlusNet) is throttling BitTorrent, but I'm not 100% sure. PlusNet *do* throttle torrent traffic, it's in their TC's check here - http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/quality_broadband/speed.shtml#unlimitedspeeds It varies depending on the time of day, but at least they are totally open about it. Unlike a lot of other ISPsOk, thanks for the link. Looks like the worst time to download is 6 to 10 PM, which is probably when I'm downloading via BitTorrent most. I wonder how many ISP's acknowledge USENET still exists, let alone throttle it. Never seen it mentioned in others TCs, but then it's high volume use was always binary groups, and they've pretty much died out from via ISPs, so you have to pay subs to someone like Giganews otherwise they don't work... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
LeeGroups wrote: Never seen it mentioned in others TCs, but then it's high volume use was always binary groups, and they've pretty much died out from via ISPs, so you have to pay subs to someone like Giganews otherwise they don't work... Well they certainly don't promote the fact on Virgin and BT that they have Newsgroups servers. Virgin have reasonable servers (I get full speed pretty much all the time on them) but they only have a 1 week retention on binary groups and BT use a larger provider (can't remember off the top of my head) but they offer up to about 70 days retention but limited to 3 connections which gives me about 150K/sec. Still it saves me a tenner a month on what I was paying to Thundernews. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] DFEY - Logo Competition - Cash Prizes
DFEY is having a Logo Competition. Top Prize: £40 First Runner Up: £10 Brief for Entries = * Should be easily recognisable, visually pleasing and easily reproduced in different mediums. * Should echo themes of Digital Freedom, Technology, Young People and Education. * All entries must be licenced under Creative Commons Zero Licence http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0 * Should be submitted in SVG format, though high resolution bitmap might be acceptable. * Ideally, should be created solely using free software but entries created using non-free software will be accepted. * Ideally, shouldn't use that many different primary colours. * Have been emailed entry to l...@dfey.org with the SVG or other image file attached by 23:59, 31st May 2009 Eligibility of Entrants === * Anyone can enter, regardless of age, geographic location etc. * There is no limit to the number of entries per entrant How to Enter 1. Take a moment to read http://nw.dfey.org/wiki/Logo_Competition 2. Send an email to l...@dfey.org with the SVG or other image file attached by 23:59, 31st May 2009. 3. Include a statement that you have read and understand you are are licencing this piece of work to us under the Creative Commons Zero Licence v1 (http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0) 4. Please include your name and (if desired) a link to your blog/website etc. 5. Your entry will be processed and uploaded on to the Entries page. http://nw.dfey.org/wiki/Logo_Competition/Entries --- Winners will be decided upon through a Schulze Method voting system. More information at http://nw.dfey.org/wiki/Logo_Competition --- About DFEY == DFEY (Digital Freedom in Education and Youth) is a group formed in response from a growing need to encourage and promote young people's involvement with the free software and technical communities by creating a social space to make it more comfortable for young people to get involved with LUGs and other technical groups. Find out more and get involved at www.dfey.org -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chess Tournament?
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 10:14 +0100, Johnathon Tinsley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, For any chess lovers in ubuntu-uk, would you like a tournament? Using an online correspondence chess service, like chrss.co.uk, or yahoo's online chess system? Johnathon Hiya, I'd be interested in having a go. It's been a while since I last played though. -Matt Daubney signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
Hi all A clip of the Ubuntu download can be seen at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/enhancedmobile/programmes/click/8028913 .stm No need for iPlayer, unless you want to see the whole program. Further clips of this program are at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/default.stm Tony -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chess Tournament?
Johnathon Tinsley wrote: Hello All, For any chess lovers in ubuntu-uk, would you like a tournament? Using an online correspondence chess service, like chrss.co.uk, or yahoo's online chess system? Johnathon Whilst avoiding the typical notion that all geeks love Chess. I'd be interested in a couple of games. There is no reason we couldn't use the Chess that ships with Gnome using GGZ servers. I think a mini-tournament might be a good idea! Suggesting a list of names: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ChessTournament Kind Regards, Dave Walker -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 9.04: Is the (newish) GNOME logout menu controllable by keyboard?
Dean Sas wrote in gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.british David M wrote: However, 9.04 has removed the Logout/Shutdown options from the System menu in GNOME, meaning that I have no alternative now but to use the newish logout menu (that was introduced in 8.10, I think). If you remove the quit applet then you should get the menu items back in the System menu. Thanks for that advice. I'm not sure if I'll do that (yet?), as the quit applet does look kinda purty.. ;-) I think the idea is that it is confusing to have shutdown options from the quit applet and in the System menu. That doesn't make sense to me - application launchers are available in multiple places as are mounted volumes. Hmm, I agree that does seem a pretty silly policy. I gather that kind of thing is very typically 'GNOME', however.. :-( I wonder if I should file a bug/feature-request.. -- David M. Edinburgh, Scotland. [en,fr,(de) -- corrections welcome] * Please only quote minimum required for context; interleave reply text. * On-list replies preferred. Please don't 'cc:' list messages to me! * HTML/slug-trails/excess-quoting/no-context/zero-content = filtered! Read lists as news: nntp://news.gmane.org info: http://gmane.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 9.04: Is the (newish) GNOME logout menu controllable by keyboard?
Adam Bagnall wrote in gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.british David M wrote: ..in order to shutdown my computer, but as this menu item is no longer present, is it possible to activate the new logout menu from the keyboard? I presume it must be somehow, as it would probably be Very Bad from an accessibility perspective otherwise.. I asked the very same question the other day on IRC as I had the same habit. If you hit the power button on your pc/laptop it should pop up the shutdown menu, much quicker than alt+F1 followed by cursor keys :) goes away and experiments ..h, that's neat! That'd never have occurred to me! (although the power button isn't really closer to hand on my desktop, or should I say, buried under the desk, box!) An interesting example of where us techie-types /know/ that pressing the power button without first shutting down is /obviously/ a Bad Idea, but, actually, instead, what would turn out to be the instinctive action for a 'normal' person turns out in actual fact to Do The Right Thing.. Hey, does this mean that all that power management stuff is safe to play with now? plays further ..it even looks as though Suspend/Hibernate are working on my laptoy (Advent 4211), although Hibernate takes longer to defrost than booting up from scratch, which rather defeats the point! No such luck on my desktop, though, which is, as I suspect, probably a bit too old (~2004) to like that kind of thing. I could still do with a keyboard shortcut for when I just want to logout and hand over to a different user, though. David. -- David M. Edinburgh, Scotland. [en,fr,(de) -- corrections welcome] * Please only quote minimum required for context; interleave reply text. * On-list replies preferred. Please don't 'cc:' list messages to me! * HTML/slug-trails/excess-quoting/no-context/zero-content = filtered! Read lists as news: nntp://news.gmane.org info: http://gmane.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 9.04: Is the (newish) GNOME logout menu controllable by keyboard?
Daniel Rhodes-Mumby wrote in gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.british On my box running Karmic here, you can press Ctrl-Alt-Del to popup a shutdown menu, although it doesn't offer an option to logout or switch users. I'm pretty sure the shortcut was in Jaunty and Intrepid as well. Thanks for that: again, not another key combo that it would have occurred to me to use, since it /obviously/ does bad things.. ;-) (You can imagine how perplexed I was the first time I came across a Whinedos box that asked me to do that in order to login..) -- David M. Edinburgh, Scotland. [en,fr,(de) -- corrections welcome] * Please only quote minimum required for context; interleave reply text. * On-list replies preferred. Please don't 'cc:' list messages to me! * HTML/slug-trails/excess-quoting/no-context/zero-content = filtered! Read lists as news: nntp://news.gmane.org info: http://gmane.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 9.04: Is the (newish) GNOME logout menu controllable by keyboard?
David M wrote: Daniel Rhodes-Mumby wrote in gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.british On my box running Karmic here, you can press Ctrl-Alt-Del to popup a shutdown menu, although it doesn't offer an option to logout or switch users. I'm pretty sure the shortcut was in Jaunty and Intrepid as well. Thanks for that: again, not another key combo that it would have occurred to me to use, since it /obviously/ does bad things.. ;-) (You can imagine how perplexed I was the first time I came across a Whinedos box that asked me to do that in order to login..) There is, of course, always the terminal alternative: sudo poweroff sudo shutdown -h now to shutdown or: sudo shutdown -r now sudo reboot to reboot (that's two examples for each. Always useful to know if you're dropped to tty1 for some reason ;) -- Mehall -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DFEY - Logo Competition - Cash Prizes
On Mon, 04 May 2009 19:38:20 +0100, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: DFEY is having a Logo Competition. Top Prize: £40 First Runner Up: £10 Brief for Entries = * Should be easily recognisable, visually pleasing and easily reproduced in different mediums. * Should echo themes of Digital Freedom, Technology, Young People and Education. * All entries must be licenced under Creative Commons Zero Licence http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0 * Should be submitted in SVG format, though high resolution bitmap might be acceptable. * Ideally, should be created solely using free software but entries created using non-free software will be accepted. * Ideally, shouldn't use that many different primary colours. * Have been emailed entry to l...@dfey.org with the SVG or other image file attached by 23:59, 31st May 2009 Eligibility of Entrants === * Anyone can enter, regardless of age, geographic location etc. * There is no limit to the number of entries per entrant How to Enter 1. Take a moment to read http://nw.dfey.org/wiki/Logo_Competition 2. Send an email to l...@dfey.org with the SVG or other image file attached by 23:59, 31st May 2009. 3. Include a statement that you have read and understand you are are licencing this piece of work to us under the Creative Commons Zero Licence v1 (http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0) 4. Please include your name and (if desired) a link to your blog/website etc. 5. Your entry will be processed and uploaded on to the Entries page. http://nw.dfey.org/wiki/Logo_Competition/Entries --- Winners will be decided upon through a Schulze Method voting system. More information at http://nw.dfey.org/wiki/Logo_Competition --- About DFEY == DFEY (Digital Freedom in Education and Youth) is a group formed in response from a growing need to encourage and promote young people's involvement with the free software and technical communities by creating a social space to make it more comfortable for young people to get involved with LUGs and other technical groups. Find out more and get involved at www.dfey.org Thanks for this. I'm just forwarding it on to a local youth council I'm involved in - it's not typical of our activities, but maybe I'll be able to change that. The issue of digital freedom, both in terms of surveillance and source availability, is also something we might be able to bring up in the UKYP. One of our members is an MYP so it's a possibility. Daniel -- Humanity is where the falling angel meets the rising ape. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] 9.04: WiFi now works on Advent 4211 netbook
I'd just like to say a particular big Thank you to the Ubuntu devs as the built-in WiFi card on my Advent 4211 netbook is now working, now that I've upgraded to 9.04. The WiFi card hadn't been detected in 8.04 or 8.10, and although I'd tried to follow the instructions on the MSI Wind wiki (the Advent 4211 is a rebranded MSI Wind), I hadn't had any success, and had put this off as a project to look at again when I got around to it... I'm therefore very pleased that Ubuntu has saved me the effort, and I can now use my netbook as a proper portable! Now, if they could just get the webcam working in 9.10, I'd be 100% [1] sorted! :-) Thanks again to Ubuntu and any upstream devs for their work.. David. [1] Bluetooth worked right from the word go, which I was extremely impressed with at the time, as did synching files with my mobile via Bluetooth or USB cable. I'm genuinely impressed that the hardware hurdles in the way of Linux definitely seem to be getting fewer and fewer. -- David M. Edinburgh, Scotland. [en,fr,(de) -- corrections welcome] * Please only quote minimum required for context; interleave reply text. * On-list replies preferred. Please don't 'cc:' list messages to me! * HTML/slug-trails/excess-quoting/no-context/zero-content = filtered! Read lists as news: nntp://news.gmane.org info: http://gmane.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DFEY - Logo Competition - Cash Prizes
Daniel Rhodes-Mumby wrote: Thanks for this. I'm just forwarding it on to a local youth council I'm involved in - it's not typical of our activities, but maybe I'll be able to change that. Wow, this sounds like a really good opportunity! It's worth a go at least! The issue of digital freedom, both in terms of surveillance and source availability, is also something we might be able to bring up in the UKYP. One of our members is an MYP so it's a possibility. Definitely, if I can help at all, speaking to people, writing letters, doing talks, please do drop me mail. You should probably join our mailing list too... http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dfey-nw-discuss We're fairly northwest UK centric at the moment, but I'm hoping this will change fairly soon... :) I'd be really interested to know how it goes with the council.. in fact if you get the chance, drop into #dfey on freenode - a few of us have done similar things in the past, I think. Cheers Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rampant gnome-system-monitor!!
I have a system running a fresh install of 8.04, I haven't messed with it much but it doesn't seem to be having the same problem. Even so I've changed the interval to 30 seconds. Is that too much ? The system running 9.04 is in for a plug pulling session I think. I'll reinstall off the cd. I uninstalled gnome-system-manager and installed xosview which is a system monitor. The cpu use only hits about 50% now thanks to Xorg. But it is struggling to start up and I don't think I'll be able to cure it. Not clever enough. Thanks to Farran and Kevin for suggestions. Ged On Mon, 04 May 2009 13:53:05 +0100, Kevin Safford kevin.saff...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi I'm still running 8.04; a little while after installing it I found I needed to increase the default setting for updating information about file systems (Edit - Preferences - File Systems - Update interval in seconds). That fixed it for me. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 9.04: Is the (newish) GNOME logout menu controllable by keyboard?
David M wrote: Dean Sas wrote in gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.british I think the idea is that it is confusing to have shutdown options from the quit applet and in the System menu. That doesn't make sense to me Hmm, I agree that does seem a pretty silly policy. I gather that kind of thing is very typically 'GNOME', however.. :-( Nothing to do with GNOME, this is a Ubuntu specific change. I wonder if I should file a bug/feature-request.. There was a little pushback from the Ubuntu desktop team, sabdfl pushed the change through though. See bug 283278 for more details. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
