Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking.....

2009-10-16 Thread John Matthews

> Can you check your sharing settings?
>
> If I remember correctly when I upgraded it backed up my existing Samba 
> configuration file and replaced it with a default one.
>
> I wonder if Samba isn't running? (Not sure if it'll make any difference 
> or not).
>
> Rob
>
>
>   
Hi, I wonder can somebody help with this please? How do you find out if 
Samba isnt running?

John

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Release schedule

2009-10-16 Thread LeeGroups

>> Anybody else fear that with the pace of change in Linux a 6-month
>> release schedule is becoming rather a challenge?  I realise it's neat
>> and tidy to do it, but wonder whether it is rather ambitious.
>> 
>
> Yup. After hassle with 8.10 upgrade, I've reverted back to 8.04 and 
> sworn to only use LTS releases. And to only migrate to new LTS releases 
> three months after their official launch date.
>
> The LTS releases are essentially Ubuntu's "stable" branch.
>
> In any case, seriously, who has time to upgrade all of their PCs every 6 
> months? I've got 5 Ubuntu PCs, a wife, three kids and a full time job.
Sadly, I'm with you there Andrew, especially after the catastrophic 
upgrade on my own Dell Vostro from Intrepid to Jaunty.
Mashed upgrade, and the fresh install wasn't too hot either...

That said, one of my kids PC's died yesterday (hardware I think) so 
that's getting taste of Karmic and depending on the results going back 
to Hardy (8.04.3!)...

Going back to original post, I don't think the release cycle is too 
ambitious, I think it's the amount of stuff in each release that's too 
ambitious...
Looking though the forums and Launchpad, there seems to an amazing 
amount of stuff that gets broken and re-broken on each release.
Being a ex-developer I understand why this happens, but from an end user 
perspective, it looks pretty bad. I.e. They have a perfectly working 
machine. Out comes the latest version of their favourite OS (which is 
better/faster/prettier) but now several things don't work any more. I 
appreciate they get fixed and pretty rapidly, but I'm finding it pretty 
difficult to justify new upgrades to people I've converted to Ubuntu for 
fear that something will break and I'll have to spend a load of (unpaid) 
time fixing it...

Lee


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kubuntu Hardy to Jaunty failed

2009-10-16 Thread Alan Pope
2009/10/16 Rob Beard :
> Oh dear.  I'm sure it was discussed a week or so ago about upgrading
> between versions.  I gather it's not a good idea to upgrade from more
> than one version to another at a time, so I guess from Hardy, you'd need
> to upgrade to Intrepid, then Jaunty.
>

Indeed. The best approach is to go from one release to the next
consecutive one. The documentation for this is here:-

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading

> Fraid I can't help much other than suggest maybe looking at backing up
> the system, at least the home directory and then reinstalling from a
> fresh install of Jaunty.  Maybe someone else might be able to offer some
> more advice on how to fix it?

You can install over the top and if you choose 'manual' partition, and
_don't_ tick the 'format' option, it will install over the top without
wiping the home folder.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kubuntu Hardy to Jaunty failed

2009-10-16 Thread Rob Beard
Mark Fraser wrote:
> I've tried the Kubuntu mailinglist, but haven't had a response. So I thought 
> I'd try here.
>
> I tried to upgrade my wife's computer from Hardy to Jaunty this week after 
> successfully doing it on 2 other computers. This time it started coming up 
> with error messages saying certain packages couldn't be installed and stopped.
> I dropped into tty1 and carried on with the install there, but the part of 
> the 
> upgrade where it removes old packages didn't happen.
>
> If I do
> apt-show-versions |grep hardy
> on the computer I'm presented with a whole list of packages that I presume 
> should have been removed. Can I safely remove all these packages?
>
> Also, if I do
> apt-show-versions |grep -v jaunty
> on my computer I have a list of packages that must've been from when I had 
> Gutsy.
>   
Oh dear.  I'm sure it was discussed a week or so ago about upgrading 
between versions.  I gather it's not a good idea to upgrade from more 
than one version to another at a time, so I guess from Hardy, you'd need 
to upgrade to Intrepid, then Jaunty.

Fraid I can't help much other than suggest maybe looking at backing up 
the system, at least the home directory and then reinstalling from a 
fresh install of Jaunty.  Maybe someone else might be able to offer some 
more advice on how to fix it?

Rob



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[ubuntu-uk] Kubuntu Hardy to Jaunty failed

2009-10-16 Thread Mark Fraser
I've tried the Kubuntu mailinglist, but haven't had a response. So I thought 
I'd try here.

I tried to upgrade my wife's computer from Hardy to Jaunty this week after 
successfully doing it on 2 other computers. This time it started coming up 
with error messages saying certain packages couldn't be installed and stopped.
I dropped into tty1 and carried on with the install there, but the part of the 
upgrade where it removes old packages didn't happen.

If I do
apt-show-versions |grep hardy
on the computer I'm presented with a whole list of packages that I presume 
should have been removed. Can I safely remove all these packages?

Also, if I do
apt-show-versions |grep -v jaunty
on my computer I have a list of packages that must've been from when I had 
Gutsy.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party

2009-10-16 Thread Tim Dobson
Gordon Allott wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 22:32 +0100, Daniel Drummond wrote:
>> I love that the address for Pitcher and Piano is Arches 9-10 Deansgate
>> Locks.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
> 
> I have absolutely no idea if thats the correct address, I just copied
> whatever google told me. if its not please correct me and I can change
> it, I'm not from Manchester'

I can't comment which arches it occupies by arch number, but it 
certainly does occupy two railway arches on Deansgate Locks :)


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[ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: [LUG] windows 7 poll]

2009-10-16 Thread Paul Sutton
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Not sure if any one has already sent this to the list,  but lets see if
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Lets give Linux a boost :)

Paul Sutton
www.zleap.net

Ubuntu 9.10 out 29th October 2009 - www.ubuntu.com
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can we down the MS shills ...with linux shills...
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party

2009-10-16 Thread Tim Dobson
Gordon Allott wrote:
> added to the ubuntu wiki
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseParties
> 
> added to http://houseparty.cx
> 
> If we could all post to the local LUGS as well that would be
> fantastic :)

Someone mail a sample announcement mail to (td at tdobson dot net) which 
we are happy to send out to the local LUGS and I'll send it to LUGs 
within an hours travel of Manchester.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party

2009-10-16 Thread Jon Spriggs
I'm just waiting for a call back from the manager, when she'll take my
confirmation.

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2009/10/16 Simon Wears :
> I think a Facebook group is a good idea. Also, is the Pitcher & Piano
> confirmed then? If so, I can post it up around the computing department at
> Manchester Met uni, and on our forums. Hopefully that'll get a few people
> interested.
>
> 2009/10/16 Jon Spriggs 
>>
>> I've added the event to Upcoming.org, more for promotional purposes
>> than to get numbers. I've put the details on http://geekery.in
>> although it's awaiting moderation at the moment. Is it worth setting
>> up an event on Facebook?
>>
>> The Upcoming.org event is http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/4674854
>>
>> Rgds,
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>>
>>
>> 2009/10/16 Gordon Allott :
>> > added to the ubuntu wiki
>> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseParties
>> >
>> > added to http://houseparty.cx
>> >
>> > If we could all post to the local LUGS as well that would be
>> > fantastic :)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaws - text to speech

2009-10-16 Thread Dean Sas
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 09:35, Rob Beard  wrote:
> Dean Sas wrote:
>> Rik Boland wrote:
>>
>>> There is a programme named Jaws it runs under windows it will basically
>>> read text from a scanner so it great for people that may be blind or
>>> like me have episodic sight  issue's that affect reading and typing.
>>>
>>
>> Orca does this and is installed by default. Once you've logged in you
>> can hold alt press f2, then type orca and hit return and it should start up.
>>
> That's great, I love the Lancashire option.  Shame there isn't a
> Yorkshire voice (being originally from Yorkshire myself) (or using a
> Yorkshire translator - *'em theear int eur Yorksha voice (bein
> originally fra Yorksha myself). *

Nah then Rob, tha ses theear int eur Yorksha one? Tha shud see if tha
can add wun.

(apologies for the accent, I live 10 miles the right side of the south
yorkshire border ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party

2009-10-16 Thread Simon Wears
I think a Facebook group is a good idea. Also, is the Pitcher & Piano
confirmed then? If so, I can post it up around the computing department at
Manchester Met uni, and on our forums. Hopefully that'll get a few people
interested.

2009/10/16 Jon Spriggs 

> I've added the event to Upcoming.org, more for promotional purposes
> than to get numbers. I've put the details on http://geekery.in
> although it's awaiting moderation at the moment. Is it worth setting
> up an event on Facebook?
>
> The Upcoming.org event is http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/4674854
>
> Rgds,
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>
>
>
> 2009/10/16 Gordon Allott :
> > added to the ubuntu wiki
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseParties
> >
> > added to http://houseparty.cx
> >
> > If we could all post to the local LUGS as well that would be
> > fantastic :)
> >
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party

2009-10-16 Thread Jon Spriggs
I've added the event to Upcoming.org, more for promotional purposes
than to get numbers. I've put the details on http://geekery.in
although it's awaiting moderation at the moment. Is it worth setting
up an event on Facebook?

The Upcoming.org event is http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/4674854

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2009/10/16 Gordon Allott :
> added to the ubuntu wiki
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseParties
>
> added to http://houseparty.cx
>
> If we could all post to the local LUGS as well that would be
> fantastic :)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking.....

2009-10-16 Thread John Matthews
Rob Beard wrote:
> John Matthews wrote:
>   
>> Rob Beard wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> John Matthews wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 Hi I am trying to get my Laptop to see the windows partition and the pc 
 and netbook, but it wont mount. How can I set up networking?

 John.
   
 
   
 
>>> You're trying to get the laptop to see the Windows partition on the 
>>> laptop or another PC?
>>>
>>> If it's on the laptop itself then it should appear on Places.  For 
>>> instance my Vista partition appears under Places as a 63GB Filesystem.
>>>
>>> If you click on Network on the Places menu what do you get?
>>>
>>> On my laptop I get an icon for my laptop and also a Windows Network 
>>> icon.  Double clicking on the Windows Network icon comes up with some 
>>> more icons work the workgroups on my network and going into one of these 
>>> icons displays icons for the machines in the workgroup.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>> Hi I get only the Windows Network Icon, not the Laptop one. I used to 
>> get both before I upgraded. I click on the Windows one and it says 
>> unable to mount. I am connected via router and ethernet cable to my pc. 
>> So it should work.
>>
>> John
>>
>>   
>> 
> Can you check your sharing settings?
>
> If I remember correctly when I upgraded it backed up my existing Samba 
> configuration file and replaced it with a default one.
>
> I wonder if Samba isn't running? (Not sure if it'll make any difference 
> or not).
>
> Rob
>
>
>   
Um, how do I do that?

John

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] NW Learning Grid?

2009-10-16 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 16/10/09 08:00, mac wrote:
> You may have come across this:
>
> http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/open-source-could-save-uk-schools--60-million-a-year-2100
>
> It mentions the 'North West Learning Grid' - a consortium of 18 local
> authorities in the NW.  Does anyone have any connection with this?  Does
> it have any interest in Ubuntu?
>
> mac

I'm not sure about the OS they use, but the company that did a fair bit 
of the work is Siruis.

http://www.siriusit.co.uk/resources/siriuspress/pressrelease/15-oct-2009/uk-education-partnership-save-%C2%A360m-year-using-open-so

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking.....

2009-10-16 Thread Rob Beard
John Matthews wrote:
> Rob Beard wrote:
>   
>> John Matthews wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Hi I am trying to get my Laptop to see the windows partition and the pc 
>>> and netbook, but it wont mount. How can I set up networking?
>>>
>>> John.
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>> You're trying to get the laptop to see the Windows partition on the 
>> laptop or another PC?
>>
>> If it's on the laptop itself then it should appear on Places.  For 
>> instance my Vista partition appears under Places as a 63GB Filesystem.
>>
>> If you click on Network on the Places menu what do you get?
>>
>> On my laptop I get an icon for my laptop and also a Windows Network 
>> icon.  Double clicking on the Windows Network icon comes up with some 
>> more icons work the workgroups on my network and going into one of these 
>> icons displays icons for the machines in the workgroup.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
> Hi I get only the Windows Network Icon, not the Laptop one. I used to 
> get both before I upgraded. I click on the Windows one and it says 
> unable to mount. I am connected via router and ethernet cable to my pc. 
> So it should work.
>
> John
>
>   
Can you check your sharing settings?

If I remember correctly when I upgraded it backed up my existing Samba 
configuration file and replaced it with a default one.

I wonder if Samba isn't running? (Not sure if it'll make any difference 
or not).

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaws - text to speech

2009-10-16 Thread Rob Beard
Dean Sas wrote:
> Rik Boland wrote:
>   
>> There is a programme named Jaws it runs under windows it will basically 
>> read text from a scanner so it great for people that may be blind or 
>> like me have episodic sight  issue's that affect reading and typing.
>>
>> So there should really be some thing out there can any one suggest 
>> anything please.  This would so help me, as well as perhaps full sight 
>> individuals perhaps students that need to read a lot of books.
>> 
>
> Orca does this and is installed by default. Once you've logged in you
> can hold alt press f2, then type orca and hit return and it should start up.
>   
That's great, I love the Lancashire option.  Shame there isn't a 
Yorkshire voice (being originally from Yorkshire myself) (or using a 
Yorkshire translator - *'em theear int eur Yorksha voice (bein 
originally fra Yorksha myself). *

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaws - text to speech

2009-10-16 Thread Rik Boland
Thank-you Dean.

I hope this package would work with a bed scanner it would save so much 
money over Jaws.

Thank you. I looking fwd to learning more!

Shalom

Rik

Dean Sas wrote:
> Rik Boland wrote:
>   
>> There is a programme named Jaws it runs under windows it will basically 
>> read text from a scanner so it great for people that may be blind or 
>> like me have episodic sight  issue's that affect reading and typing.
>>
>> So there should really be some thing out there can any one suggest 
>> anything please.  This would so help me, as well as perhaps full sight 
>> individuals perhaps students that need to read a lot of books.
>> 
>
> Orca does this and is installed by default. Once you've logged in you
> can hold alt press f2, then type orca and hit return and it should start up.
>
>   

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking.....

2009-10-16 Thread John Matthews
Rob Beard wrote:
> John Matthews wrote:
>   
>> Hi I am trying to get my Laptop to see the windows partition and the pc 
>> and netbook, but it wont mount. How can I set up networking?
>>
>> John.
>>   
>> 
> You're trying to get the laptop to see the Windows partition on the 
> laptop or another PC?
>
> If it's on the laptop itself then it should appear on Places.  For 
> instance my Vista partition appears under Places as a 63GB Filesystem.
>
> If you click on Network on the Places menu what do you get?
>
> On my laptop I get an icon for my laptop and also a Windows Network 
> icon.  Double clicking on the Windows Network icon comes up with some 
> more icons work the workgroups on my network and going into one of these 
> icons displays icons for the machines in the workgroup.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
>   
Hi I get only the Windows Network Icon, not the Laptop one. I used to 
get both before I upgraded. I click on the Windows one and it says 
unable to mount. I am connected via router and ethernet cable to my pc. 
So it should work.

John

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[ubuntu-uk] NW Learning Grid?

2009-10-16 Thread mac
You may have come across this:

http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/open-source-could-save-uk-schools--60-million-a-year-2100

It mentions the 'North West Learning Grid' - a consortium of 18 local 
authorities in the NW.  Does anyone have any connection with this?  Does 
it have any interest in Ubuntu?

mac




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