Re: [ubuntu-uk] File copying problem to USB flash drive

2010-01-18 Thread Tony Travis
Paul Sutton wrote:
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> David King wrote:
>> When trying to copy video files to a USB flash drive, once the file has 
>> copied over, the original gets smaller, down to either 96 bytes or 0 
>> bytes. The copy also sometimes shrinks to the same size.
>>
>> What could be causing this and how can I keep the files intact on the 
>> hard drive?
>>
>> I am using Ubuntu 9.04 on an AMD64 PC. The USB flash drive is 16 GB in size.
>>
>>
>> David King
>>
>>
>>
> I have had similar issues, copied files over only to find they havn't
> actually been copied properly,

Hello, Paul and David.

There was a flood of bogus capacity USB sticks from China recently, in 
which 2GB devices were reprogrammed to look like they were 16GB. When 
you first use them, they work fine but as they fill up used parts of the 
flash memory are overwritten. There are several M$ Windows programs you 
can use to test your sticks, but you could also use "badblocks" to do a 
destructive write test. Have a look at:

   http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/safe-sellers/

HTH,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] File copying problem to USB flash drive

2010-01-18 Thread Paul Sutton
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David King wrote:
> When trying to copy video files to a USB flash drive, once the file has 
> copied over, the original gets smaller, down to either 96 bytes or 0 
> bytes. The copy also sometimes shrinks to the same size.
> 
> What could be causing this and how can I keep the files intact on the 
> hard drive?
> 
> I am using Ubuntu 9.04 on an AMD64 PC. The USB flash drive is 16 GB in size.
> 
> 
> David King
> 
> 
> 
I have had similar issues, copied files over only to find they havn't
actually been copied properly,


Paul

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Hour in the UK

2010-01-18 Thread Paul Sutton
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Rob Beard wrote:
> Alan Pope wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was lucky enough to attend the Ubuntu Developer Summit (UDS) at the
>> end of last year. Probably the most inspiring of the lightning talks
>> was one called Ubuntu Hour by Fabián Rodríguez. In it Fabián discussed
>> the problems of organising major events with venues and other
>> facilities, and diluted down a meeting to one hour. He explained the
>> incredibly simple premice of Ubuntu Hour.
>>
>> It is based on announcing your intention to be somewhere public at a
>> specified time and date for one hour only. No presentations planned,
>> no marketing, just a brief announcement of intent to be somewhere.
>> People are then invited to turn up and do whatever comes to mind for
>> the hour. This could be advocacy, informal ad-hoc training, fixing a
>> broken system, really whatever the attendees need at the time. It
>> could happen weekly, bi-weekly or monthly depending on the need in the
>> local area.
>>
>> What also got me thinking about this was a recent bug report filed
>> against the Ubuntu Community (yes, the community has a bug tracker :)
>> ).
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392986
>>
>> In it Randall Ross explains how he thinks that perhaps LoCos aren't
>> "LoCo" enough. There are plenty of people around the UK who run
>> Ubuntu, and probably don't know about other people in their region.
>> The Ubuntu Hour would be an ideal way to get mini-locos going. If
>> you're interested in getting together with people in your area, this
>> seems like an ideal initiative to do it. We can discuss what we're
>> doing on the list, and figure out the best way to promote and run
>> them. Remember they're designed to be informal, what works for an
>> Ubuntu Hour in one town/county may not work for someone else. Lets be
>> flexible.
>>
>> We have a wiki page listing Ubuntu Hours around the world, and I
>> wanted to encourage people to consider scheduling an hour to be
>> somewhere and let the community know. I'd love to start hearing about
>> Ubuntu Hours around the UK.
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour
>>
>> Here's a report of a previous Ubuntu Hour in the USA.
>>
>> http://www.ubuntu-user.com/layout/set/print/content/view/full/654
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Al.
>>   
> That sounds like a great idea, I bet something like that could work at 
> LUG meetings, or in our case down in Torbay, possibly at one of 
> Paignton's new venues which will hopefully in the next couple of months 

They would like this sorted ASAP, so by Feb if possible, From talking to
tyrone the sooner the better.  As it will be a source of income for them
which at present is lacking, the cafe will bring people in for a start.

I can't help on the server side, i don't know anything about servers,
apart from they are bigger and more powerful than desktops so they can
do more stuff and provide different services to the internal / external
network.


> get an Ubuntu based internet cafe.  I dare say having an Ubuntu hour 
> there would be good as not everyone going to the venue in Paignton would 
> be there as part of the LUG so it might be possible to spread the word 
> to others.
> 
Plus they are already ubuntu orientated.


> Rob
> 
> 


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Science Museum visit, Easter.

2010-01-18 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Isabell,

2010/1/18 Isabell Long :
> I would like to hear your views on this, the general consensus was that it 
> was a good idea from what I caught up on of last night's meeting... if anyone 
> feels the need to
> elaborate on what I've said or contribute some more ideas/information, please 
> of course feel free to do so!  Obviously we will need to organise suitable 
> dates.  :)
>

I haven't been for years, so I'd love to be counted in.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Science Museum visit, Easter.

2010-01-18 Thread Josh Holland
http://xkcd.com/320/ is a handy one too.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Science Museum visit, Easter.

2010-01-18 Thread YaManicKill
Can I suggest http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/15/103358/720 if you need
more hours in the day?

ymk

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Rob Beard  wrote:

> I would but there's not enough hours in the day, I'm thinking of putting
> up a petition to have days extended to 40 hours :-)
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Science Museum visit, Easter.

2010-01-18 Thread Josh Holland
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:07:49PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
> What I would like to arrange is a trip down to Goonhilly in Cornwall, I 
> went a couple of years back when I went to Cornwall on holiday.  Not 
> sure if it's still open though, I heard rumors that it was closing.  
> Saying that though, in our neck of the woods, we can't even get the 
> folks in Cornwall to agree to a LUG meeting, never mind a day out!

I went down there a year or two ago with the family, and it was great
fun. We did a tour of the thing with Segways :). I doubt it'd be easy to
get down there for something like that though; it's a bit far from
Worcester.

I did hear something about it closing, but I'm not really sure about
what's going on there.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Science Museum visit, Easter.

2010-01-18 Thread Rob Beard
James Thomas wrote:
>
>
> 2010/1/18 Rob Beard mailto:r...@esdelle.co.uk>>
>
> Isabell Long wrote:
> > Hello there,
> >
> > As decided at last night's meeting, I am now emailing the list
> about my idea of a group trip to the Science Museum in London at
> Easter.
> >
> > So, as I just mentioned, I was thinking of things to do at
> Easter and came up with Science Museum!  As there is free entry to
> museums in London at the moment, I (with a
> > little persuasion from Alan Bell, admittedly!) thought why not
> organise a trip to the science museum, a paradise for science
> minded geeks (and others)!  Of course this
> > would be an event during the school holidays, so bringing your
> family along is okay I guess.  I was also thinking about
> organising a group tour (that would obviously come
> > at a price, but if everyone can in theory chip in a bit) and
> then just generally a great day out!  More information about the
> Science museum can be found at
> > http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/
> >
> > I would like to hear your views on this, the general consensus
> was that it was a good idea from what I caught up on of last
> night's meeting... if anyone feels the need to
> > elaborate on what I've said or contribute some more
> ideas/information, please of course feel free to do so!  Obviously
> we will need to organise suitable dates.  :)
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Isabell.
> >
> >
> I'd be interested but being in Devon, it's possibly a bit far for me,
> not to mention last time I went to London in the half term holidays it
> was manic!
>
> Personally I'd like to go to a trip to the Museum Of Computing in
> Swindon :-)
>
>
> Then why don't you arrange one for down your neck of the woods?  :)
I would but there's not enough hours in the day, I'm thinking of putting 
up a petition to have days extended to 40 hours :-)

Seriously though, there aren't really any exciting museums around Devon, 
well not unless you're an Agatha Christie fan, in that case, Torquay is 
the place to visit :-)

What I would like to arrange is a trip down to Goonhilly in Cornwall, I 
went a couple of years back when I went to Cornwall on holiday.  Not 
sure if it's still open though, I heard rumors that it was closing.  
Saying that though, in our neck of the woods, we can't even get the 
folks in Cornwall to agree to a LUG meeting, never mind a day out!

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Hour in the UK

2010-01-18 Thread YaManicKill
Sounds fantastic. I love the idea. With such large loco areas, lots of
people would feel like they don't feel really as "included" as others. Such
as in UK, a lot of stuff is London central, which is fine, but this sort of
thing would allow a lot more "local" stuff to happen. Sounds great.

Ymk

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Rob Beard  wrote:

> Alan Pope wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was lucky enough to attend the Ubuntu Developer Summit (UDS) at the
> > end of last year. Probably the most inspiring of the lightning talks
> > was one called Ubuntu Hour by Fabián Rodríguez. In it Fabián discussed
> > the problems of organising major events with venues and other
> > facilities, and diluted down a meeting to one hour. He explained the
> > incredibly simple premice of Ubuntu Hour.
> >
> > It is based on announcing your intention to be somewhere public at a
> > specified time and date for one hour only. No presentations planned,
> > no marketing, just a brief announcement of intent to be somewhere.
> > People are then invited to turn up and do whatever comes to mind for
> > the hour. This could be advocacy, informal ad-hoc training, fixing a
> > broken system, really whatever the attendees need at the time. It
> > could happen weekly, bi-weekly or monthly depending on the need in the
> > local area.
> >
> > What also got me thinking about this was a recent bug report filed
> > against the Ubuntu Community (yes, the community has a bug tracker :)
> > ).
> >
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392986
> >
> > In it Randall Ross explains how he thinks that perhaps LoCos aren't
> > "LoCo" enough. There are plenty of people around the UK who run
> > Ubuntu, and probably don't know about other people in their region.
> > The Ubuntu Hour would be an ideal way to get mini-locos going. If
> > you're interested in getting together with people in your area, this
> > seems like an ideal initiative to do it. We can discuss what we're
> > doing on the list, and figure out the best way to promote and run
> > them. Remember they're designed to be informal, what works for an
> > Ubuntu Hour in one town/county may not work for someone else. Lets be
> > flexible.
> >
> > We have a wiki page listing Ubuntu Hours around the world, and I
> > wanted to encourage people to consider scheduling an hour to be
> > somewhere and let the community know. I'd love to start hearing about
> > Ubuntu Hours around the UK.
> >
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour
> >
> > Here's a report of a previous Ubuntu Hour in the USA.
> >
> > http://www.ubuntu-user.com/layout/set/print/content/view/full/654
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Al.
> >
> That sounds like a great idea, I bet something like that could work at
> LUG meetings, or in our case down in Torbay, possibly at one of
> Paignton's new venues which will hopefully in the next couple of months
> get an Ubuntu based internet cafe.  I dare say having an Ubuntu hour
> there would be good as not everyone going to the venue in Paignton would
> be there as part of the LUG so it might be possible to spread the word
> to others.
>
> Rob
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Science Museum visit, Easter.

2010-01-18 Thread James Thomas
2010/1/18 Rob Beard 

> Isabell Long wrote:
> > Hello there,
> >
> > As decided at last night's meeting, I am now emailing the list about my
> idea of a group trip to the Science Museum in London at Easter.
> >
> > So, as I just mentioned, I was thinking of things to do at Easter and
> came up with Science Museum!  As there is free entry to museums in London at
> the moment, I (with a
> > little persuasion from Alan Bell, admittedly!) thought why not organise a
> trip to the science museum, a paradise for science minded geeks (and
> others)!  Of course this
> > would be an event during the school holidays, so bringing your family
> along is okay I guess.  I was also thinking about organising a group tour
> (that would obviously come
> > at a price, but if everyone can in theory chip in a bit) and then just
> generally a great day out!  More information about the Science museum can be
> found at
> > http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/
> >
> > I would like to hear your views on this, the general consensus was that
> it was a good idea from what I caught up on of last night's meeting... if
> anyone feels the need to
> > elaborate on what I've said or contribute some more ideas/information,
> please of course feel free to do so!  Obviously we will need to organise
> suitable dates.  :)
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Isabell.
> >
> >
> I'd be interested but being in Devon, it's possibly a bit far for me,
> not to mention last time I went to London in the half term holidays it
> was manic!
>
> Personally I'd like to go to a trip to the Museum Of Computing in
> Swindon :-)
>

Then why don't you arrange one for down your neck of the woods?  :)



>
> I guess it kind of depends on where you are though, I suppose if you're
> closer to London it's not so bad.
>
> Rob
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Hour in the UK

2010-01-18 Thread Rob Beard
Alan Pope wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was lucky enough to attend the Ubuntu Developer Summit (UDS) at the
> end of last year. Probably the most inspiring of the lightning talks
> was one called Ubuntu Hour by Fabián Rodríguez. In it Fabián discussed
> the problems of organising major events with venues and other
> facilities, and diluted down a meeting to one hour. He explained the
> incredibly simple premice of Ubuntu Hour.
>
> It is based on announcing your intention to be somewhere public at a
> specified time and date for one hour only. No presentations planned,
> no marketing, just a brief announcement of intent to be somewhere.
> People are then invited to turn up and do whatever comes to mind for
> the hour. This could be advocacy, informal ad-hoc training, fixing a
> broken system, really whatever the attendees need at the time. It
> could happen weekly, bi-weekly or monthly depending on the need in the
> local area.
>
> What also got me thinking about this was a recent bug report filed
> against the Ubuntu Community (yes, the community has a bug tracker :)
> ).
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392986
>
> In it Randall Ross explains how he thinks that perhaps LoCos aren't
> "LoCo" enough. There are plenty of people around the UK who run
> Ubuntu, and probably don't know about other people in their region.
> The Ubuntu Hour would be an ideal way to get mini-locos going. If
> you're interested in getting together with people in your area, this
> seems like an ideal initiative to do it. We can discuss what we're
> doing on the list, and figure out the best way to promote and run
> them. Remember they're designed to be informal, what works for an
> Ubuntu Hour in one town/county may not work for someone else. Lets be
> flexible.
>
> We have a wiki page listing Ubuntu Hours around the world, and I
> wanted to encourage people to consider scheduling an hour to be
> somewhere and let the community know. I'd love to start hearing about
> Ubuntu Hours around the UK.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour
>
> Here's a report of a previous Ubuntu Hour in the USA.
>
> http://www.ubuntu-user.com/layout/set/print/content/view/full/654
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
>   
That sounds like a great idea, I bet something like that could work at 
LUG meetings, or in our case down in Torbay, possibly at one of 
Paignton's new venues which will hopefully in the next couple of months 
get an Ubuntu based internet cafe.  I dare say having an Ubuntu hour 
there would be good as not everyone going to the venue in Paignton would 
be there as part of the LUG so it might be possible to spread the word 
to others.

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Science Museum visit, Easter.

2010-01-18 Thread Rob Beard
Isabell Long wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> As decided at last night's meeting, I am now emailing the list about my idea 
> of a group trip to the Science Museum in London at Easter.
>
> So, as I just mentioned, I was thinking of things to do at Easter and came up 
> with Science Museum!  As there is free entry to museums in London at the 
> moment, I (with a 
> little persuasion from Alan Bell, admittedly!) thought why not organise a 
> trip to the science museum, a paradise for science minded geeks (and others)! 
>  Of course this 
> would be an event during the school holidays, so bringing your family along 
> is okay I guess.  I was also thinking about organising a group tour (that 
> would obviously come 
> at a price, but if everyone can in theory chip in a bit) and then just 
> generally a great day out!  More information about the Science museum can be 
> found at 
> http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/
>
> I would like to hear your views on this, the general consensus was that it 
> was a good idea from what I caught up on of last night's meeting... if anyone 
> feels the need to 
> elaborate on what I've said or contribute some more ideas/information, please 
> of course feel free to do so!  Obviously we will need to organise suitable 
> dates.  :)
>
> Thank you,
>
> Isabell.
>
>   
I'd be interested but being in Devon, it's possibly a bit far for me, 
not to mention last time I went to London in the half term holidays it 
was manic!

Personally I'd like to go to a trip to the Museum Of Computing in 
Swindon :-)

I guess it kind of depends on where you are though, I suppose if you're 
closer to London it's not so bad.

Rob



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Science Museum visit, Easter.

2010-01-18 Thread Alan Bell
well that sounds like a cracking idea to me :-) Looks like the Easter
holiday dates are from the 1st to the 18th of April. Maybe a doodle poll
would reveal a good date for everyone.

Alan.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Science Museum visit, Easter.

2010-01-18 Thread Bruno Girin
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 21:47 +, Isabell Long wrote:
> Hello there,
> 
> As decided at last night's meeting, I am now emailing the list about my idea 
> of a group trip to the Science Museum in London at Easter.
> 
> So, as I just mentioned, I was thinking of things to do at Easter and came up 
> with Science Museum!  As there is free entry to museums in London at the 
> moment, I (with a 
> little persuasion from Alan Bell, admittedly!) thought why not organise a 
> trip to the science museum, a paradise for science minded geeks (and others)! 
>  Of course this 
> would be an event during the school holidays, so bringing your family along 
> is okay I guess.  I was also thinking about organising a group tour (that 
> would obviously come 
> at a price, but if everyone can in theory chip in a bit) and then just 
> generally a great day out!  More information about the Science museum can be 
> found at 
> http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/
> 
> I would like to hear your views on this, the general consensus was that it 
> was a good idea from what I caught up on of last night's meeting... if anyone 
> feels the need to 
> elaborate on what I've said or contribute some more ideas/information, please 
> of course feel free to do so!  Obviously we will need to organise suitable 
> dates.  :)
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Isabell.
> 

Great idea! Count me in.

Bruno Girin



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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Hour in the UK

2010-01-18 Thread Alan Pope
Hi,

I was lucky enough to attend the Ubuntu Developer Summit (UDS) at the
end of last year. Probably the most inspiring of the lightning talks
was one called Ubuntu Hour by Fabián Rodríguez. In it Fabián discussed
the problems of organising major events with venues and other
facilities, and diluted down a meeting to one hour. He explained the
incredibly simple premice of Ubuntu Hour.

It is based on announcing your intention to be somewhere public at a
specified time and date for one hour only. No presentations planned,
no marketing, just a brief announcement of intent to be somewhere.
People are then invited to turn up and do whatever comes to mind for
the hour. This could be advocacy, informal ad-hoc training, fixing a
broken system, really whatever the attendees need at the time. It
could happen weekly, bi-weekly or monthly depending on the need in the
local area.

What also got me thinking about this was a recent bug report filed
against the Ubuntu Community (yes, the community has a bug tracker :)
).

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392986

In it Randall Ross explains how he thinks that perhaps LoCos aren't
"LoCo" enough. There are plenty of people around the UK who run
Ubuntu, and probably don't know about other people in their region.
The Ubuntu Hour would be an ideal way to get mini-locos going. If
you're interested in getting together with people in your area, this
seems like an ideal initiative to do it. We can discuss what we're
doing on the list, and figure out the best way to promote and run
them. Remember they're designed to be informal, what works for an
Ubuntu Hour in one town/county may not work for someone else. Lets be
flexible.

We have a wiki page listing Ubuntu Hours around the world, and I
wanted to encourage people to consider scheduling an hour to be
somewhere and let the community know. I'd love to start hearing about
Ubuntu Hours around the UK.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour

Here's a report of a previous Ubuntu Hour in the USA.

http://www.ubuntu-user.com/layout/set/print/content/view/full/654

Cheers,
Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Proposed Manchester Ubuntu 10.04 Jam

2010-01-18 Thread Ged Byrom
I'll have that, dates and times permitting of course.


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[ubuntu-uk] Science Museum visit, Easter.

2010-01-18 Thread Isabell Long
Hello there,

As decided at last night's meeting, I am now emailing the list about my idea of 
a group trip to the Science Museum in London at Easter.

So, as I just mentioned, I was thinking of things to do at Easter and came up 
with Science Museum!  As there is free entry to museums in London at the 
moment, I (with a 
little persuasion from Alan Bell, admittedly!) thought why not organise a trip 
to the science museum, a paradise for science minded geeks (and others)!  Of 
course this 
would be an event during the school holidays, so bringing your family along is 
okay I guess.  I was also thinking about organising a group tour (that would 
obviously come 
at a price, but if everyone can in theory chip in a bit) and then just 
generally a great day out!  More information about the Science museum can be 
found at 
http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/

I would like to hear your views on this, the general consensus was that it was 
a good idea from what I caught up on of last night's meeting... if anyone feels 
the need to 
elaborate on what I've said or contribute some more ideas/information, please 
of course feel free to do so!  Obviously we will need to organise suitable 
dates.  :)

Thank you,

Isabell.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Proposed Manchester Ubuntu 10.04 Jam

2010-01-18 Thread Steve
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:23:25 -, Tommy Pyatt  
 wrote:


>
> 2010/1/18 Simon Wears 
>
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> This is an announcement of plans for an Ubuntu 10.04 "Lucid Lynx" Jam in
>> Manchester.
>>
>> As the Ubuntu Wiki puts it, *"an Ubuntu Jam is a local event, where  
>> people
>> meet to do something with Ubuntu. The point is to have fun, meet great
>> people, learn something new and make Ubuntu better in a way that you  
>> like
>> and enjoy."* Essentially, it will be a group of geeks with computers
>> meeting up, socialising, and making Ubuntu better through bug fixing,
>> documentation, translation, etc. to help make Ubuntu 10.04 be as good  
>> as it
>> can be.
>>
>> What every event needs is people, so - how many of you would be  
>> interested
>> in such an event? Anything from just turning up for an hour, or turning  
>> up
>> for the entire thing, from working quietly by yourself or helping to  
>> keep
>> the whole Jam going. If you've never contributed to Ubuntu before, this  
>> will
>> be a good way for you to learn how to.
>>
>> So far no date/venue has been planned, so if you think you know a  
>> suitable
>> place, post it up. Some things to remember about the venue is that it  
>> needs
>> plenty of power available, and an Internet connection, and preferably a
>> place to get drinks & snacks. As for the date, mostly we can speculate  
>> it
>> will probably be an evening/weekend event, as most people tend to work
>> during the week.
>>
>> If you're interested, let us know! If you're on the Ubuntu-UK mailing  
>> list
>> (for those who get this from elsewhere), it would be appreciated if you
>> responded on there, as it'd be good to keep most of the discussion on  
>> the
>> Ubuntu-UK list.
>>
> Hi,
>
> I'd be interested in this. Sounds like fun,
>
> Tommy Pyatt
> Ubuntu user
>
Ditto


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Proposed Manchester Ubuntu 10.04 Jam

2010-01-18 Thread Tommy Pyatt
Hi,

I'd be interested in this. Sounds like fun,

Tommy Pyatt
Ubuntu user

2010/1/18 Simon Wears 

> Hello everyone!
>
> This is an announcement of plans for an Ubuntu 10.04 "Lucid Lynx" Jam in
> Manchester.
>
> As the Ubuntu Wiki puts it, *"an Ubuntu Jam is a local event, where people
> meet to do something with Ubuntu. The point is to have fun, meet great
> people, learn something new and make Ubuntu better in a way that you like
> and enjoy."* Essentially, it will be a group of geeks with computers
> meeting up, socialising, and making Ubuntu better through bug fixing,
> documentation, translation, etc. to help make Ubuntu 10.04 be as good as it
> can be.
>
> What every event needs is people, so - how many of you would be interested
> in such an event? Anything from just turning up for an hour, or turning up
> for the entire thing, from working quietly by yourself or helping to keep
> the whole Jam going. If you've never contributed to Ubuntu before, this will
> be a good way for you to learn how to.
>
> So far no date/venue has been planned, so if you think you know a suitable
> place, post it up. Some things to remember about the venue is that it needs
> plenty of power available, and an Internet connection, and preferably a
> place to get drinks & snacks. As for the date, mostly we can speculate it
> will probably be an evening/weekend event, as most people tend to work
> during the week.
>
> If you're interested, let us know! If you're on the Ubuntu-UK mailing list
> (for those who get this from elsewhere), it would be appreciated if you
> responded on there, as it'd be good to keep most of the discussion on the
> Ubuntu-UK list.
>
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[ubuntu-uk] Proposed Manchester Ubuntu 10.04 Jam

2010-01-18 Thread Simon Wears
Hello everyone!

This is an announcement of plans for an Ubuntu 10.04 "Lucid Lynx" Jam in
Manchester.

As the Ubuntu Wiki puts it, *"an Ubuntu Jam is a local event, where people
meet to do something with Ubuntu. The point is to have fun, meet great
people, learn something new and make Ubuntu better in a way that you like
and enjoy."* Essentially, it will be a group of geeks with computers meeting
up, socialising, and making Ubuntu better through bug fixing, documentation,
translation, etc. to help make Ubuntu 10.04 be as good as it can be.

What every event needs is people, so - how many of you would be interested
in such an event? Anything from just turning up for an hour, or turning up
for the entire thing, from working quietly by yourself or helping to keep
the whole Jam going. If you've never contributed to Ubuntu before, this will
be a good way for you to learn how to.

So far no date/venue has been planned, so if you think you know a suitable
place, post it up. Some things to remember about the venue is that it needs
plenty of power available, and an Internet connection, and preferably a
place to get drinks & snacks. As for the date, mostly we can speculate it
will probably be an evening/weekend event, as most people tend to work
during the week.

If you're interested, let us know! If you're on the Ubuntu-UK mailing list
(for those who get this from elsewhere), it would be appreciated if you
responded on there, as it'd be good to keep most of the discussion on the
Ubuntu-UK list.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Tweeta into thunderbirds?

2010-01-18 Thread YaManicKill
If in doubt, you can get an RSS feed of your followers tweets, and add that.
Wouldn't allow you to reply to it, but I'm sure there are addons that let
you tweet.


> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Alan Bell <
> alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com> wrote:
>
>> red wrote:
>> > Hi all
>> >
>> > Is there any add ins for thunderbirds that I can collect my twitters
>> > like I can rss feeds?
>> >
>> > Shalom
>> >
>> Hi red,
>>
>> yes, there are quite a few twitter related things in the addon directory
>>
>>
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/search?q=twitter&cat=all&advancedsearch=1&as=1&appid=18&lver=any&atype=0&pp=20&pid=2&sort=&lup=
>> let us know if you find something particularly handy
>>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Tweeta into thunderbirds?

2010-01-18 Thread Alan Bell
red wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Is there any add ins for thunderbirds that I can collect my twitters 
> like I can rss feeds?
>
> Shalom
>   
Hi red,

yes, there are quite a few twitter related things in the addon directory

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/search?q=twitter&cat=all&advancedsearch=1&as=1&appid=18&lver=any&atype=0&pp=20&pid=2&sort=&lup=
let us know if you find something particularly handy


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[ubuntu-uk] Tweeta into thunderbirds?

2010-01-18 Thread red
Hi all

Is there any add ins for thunderbirds that I can collect my twitters 
like I can rss feeds?

Shalom

Alan Bell wrote:
> Alistair McKinlay wrote:
>   
>> Did we not decide to trial using #ubuntu-uk-meeting for the next
>> meeting? Maybe I got that wrong...
>>
>> YaManicKill
>> 
> sorry, my mistake, will fix shortly . . .
>
>   

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-18 Thread Dave Etheridge
How about a training on basic Linux security such as monitoring server
access, failed access attempts etc. Preferably without taking a desktop type
user through Nagios, Munin and Monit.

Has any thought gone into the delivery method yet such as Classroom or the
numerous online delivery methods?

Dave

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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:13:34 -, John Matthews  wrote:

> Steve wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:50:56 -, John Matthews 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I would like to be part of it. I am learning on my own, but it would 
>>> be good to have taught lessons.
>>>
>>> John.
>>>
>>>
>> So what would you like to be taught?
>>
>>
> Installation stuff, using the Terminal, problem solving using 
> terminal, and how to correct the problem once found. I still cant use 
> my laptop for watching any vids or using the network. Basic stuff, but 
> stuff that you can only learn with somebody actually showing you. Its 
> ok reading, but its really confusing reading through all that stuff.
>
This is what I suspect a lot of people might want.  Which to me is more of a
workshop type thing.  Bring your 'puter and get it sorted.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-18 Thread Steve
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:42:32 -, Paul Sutton  wrote:

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>
>
>>>
>>
>> I believe that the course content and arrangements are an issue that
>> can be solved as required. I think the major question is - Who is
>> going to, or wants to, attend?
>> Maybe this is a chicken and egg situation with 'marketing'?
>>
>
> There is already a ubuntu desktop training course, surely any materials
> can be based around this,  that way if someone then wants to undertake
> the online ubuntu desktop training course they can do.
>
> In fact it does not cost that much to do anyway, so why not charge a fee
> that covers the online course bit,  plus a bit extra to cover the tutors
> time, (that way you have tutor support), at the end of it you end up
> with i guess a certificate to say you have completed that course.
>
> no point in re-inventing the wheel
>
> if you are to do informal courses,  then again base them on the course
> requirements as the ubuntu desktop training manual is already written
> and well known,.
>
> Just an idea
>
The more you look the more material there is, I dodn’t think that’s the  
problem.
What we need are some potential customers and find out what they want.  A  
bit of market research.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Meeting minutes

2010-01-18 Thread Alan Bell
Alistair McKinlay wrote:
> Did we not decide to trial using #ubuntu-uk-meeting for the next
> meeting? Maybe I got that wrong...
>
> YaManicKill
sorry, my mistake, will fix shortly . . .

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Meeting minutes

2010-01-18 Thread Ashley Whetter
I agree. It was also put as an action in IRC. I say next meeting in
#ubuntu-uk-meeting unless anyone objects. Someone needs to update wiki as
well please.

gadget3000



2010/1/18 Alistair McKinlay 

> Did we not decide to trial using #ubuntu-uk-meeting for the next meeting?
> Maybe I got that wrong...
>
> YaManicKill
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Alistair McKinlay <
> alist...@10people.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>  Hi All,
>>>
>>> Minutes of last nights meeting are now available at
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/LastMeeting thanks to all who attended
>>> and thanks to Mez for chairing.
>>>
>>> One of the action items from the meeting was for me to come up with an
>>> improved format for the agenda, in particular so that action items don't
>>> all end up as separate topics. I ended up with quite a different concept
>>> for the agenda, it is optimised for use with MootBot and easy copy and
>>> pasting. It will no doubt be tweaked further over the course of the next
>>> few weeks and I may add some guidance notes. If you wish to add
>>> additional items to the agenda please feel free to edit the wiki page
>>> and add them, just follow the format of the existing one. This is
>>> experimental, lets see if it works. Any questions please email me or
>>> find me, AlanBell on the IRC channel.
>>>
>>> With that here is the agenda for our next meeting to be held in
>>> #ubuntu-uk on the Freenode network on February 7th at 19:30 GMT:
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeamMeetingAgenda
>>>
>>> Alan.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Did we not agree last night that next time we would trial using
>> #ubuntu-uk-meeting?
>>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-18 Thread Steve
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:13:34 -, John Matthews  wrote:

> Steve wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:50:56 -, John Matthews   
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I would like to be part of it. I am learning on my own, but it would be
>>> good to have taught lessons.
>>>
>>> John.
>>>
>>>
>> So what would you like to be taught?
>>
>>
> Installation stuff, using the Terminal, problem solving using terminal,
> and how to correct the problem once found. I still cant use my laptop
> for watching any vids or using the network. Basic stuff, but stuff that
> you can only learn with somebody actually showing you. Its ok reading,
> but its really confusing reading through all that stuff.
>
This is what I suspect a lot of people might want.  Which to me is more of  
a workshop type thing.  Bring your 'puter and get it sorted.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Meeting minutes

2010-01-18 Thread Alistair McKinlay
Did we not decide to trial using #ubuntu-uk-meeting for the next meeting?
Maybe I got that wrong...

YaManicKill

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Alistair McKinlay
wrote:

>
>  Hi All,
>>
>> Minutes of last nights meeting are now available at
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/LastMeeting thanks to all who attended
>> and thanks to Mez for chairing.
>>
>> One of the action items from the meeting was for me to come up with an
>> improved format for the agenda, in particular so that action items don't
>> all end up as separate topics. I ended up with quite a different concept
>> for the agenda, it is optimised for use with MootBot and easy copy and
>> pasting. It will no doubt be tweaked further over the course of the next
>> few weeks and I may add some guidance notes. If you wish to add
>> additional items to the agenda please feel free to edit the wiki page
>> and add them, just follow the format of the existing one. This is
>> experimental, lets see if it works. Any questions please email me or
>> find me, AlanBell on the IRC channel.
>>
>> With that here is the agenda for our next meeting to be held in
>> #ubuntu-uk on the Freenode network on February 7th at 19:30 GMT:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeamMeetingAgenda
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>>
>>
> Did we not agree last night that next time we would trial using
> #ubuntu-uk-meeting?
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[ubuntu-uk] Meeting minutes

2010-01-18 Thread Alan Bell
Hi All,

Minutes of last nights meeting are now available at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/LastMeeting thanks to all who attended
and thanks to Mez for chairing.

One of the action items from the meeting was for me to come up with an
improved format for the agenda, in particular so that action items don't
all end up as separate topics. I ended up with quite a different concept
for the agenda, it is optimised for use with MootBot and easy copy and
pasting. It will no doubt be tweaked further over the course of the next
few weeks and I may add some guidance notes. If you wish to add
additional items to the agenda please feel free to edit the wiki page
and add them, just follow the format of the existing one. This is
experimental, lets see if it works. Any questions please email me or
find me, AlanBell on the IRC channel.

With that here is the agenda for our next meeting to be held in
#ubuntu-uk on the Freenode network on February 7th at 19:30 GMT:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeamMeetingAgenda

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-18 Thread Ged Byrom
2010/1/18 John Matthews 

> Steve wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:50:56 -, John Matthews 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I would like to be part of it. I am learning on my own, but it would be
> >> good to have taught lessons.
> >>
> >> John.
> >>
> >>
> > So what would you like to be taught?
> >
> >
> Installation stuff, using the Terminal, problem solving using terminal,
> and how to correct the problem once found. I still cant use my laptop
> for watching any vids or using the network. Basic stuff, but stuff that
> you can only learn with somebody actually showing you. Its ok reading,
> but its really confusing reading through all that stuff.
>
> John
>




> Hi John,
>
Try this for restricted formats:
   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats

>
>  ged.
>



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-18 Thread Paul Sutton
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> 
> I believe that the course content and arrangements are an issue that
> can be solved as required. I think the major question is - Who is
> going to, or wants to, attend?
> Maybe this is a chicken and egg situation with 'marketing'?
> 

There is already a ubuntu desktop training course, surely any materials
can be based around this,  that way if someone then wants to undertake
the online ubuntu desktop training course they can do.

In fact it does not cost that much to do anyway, so why not charge a fee
that covers the online course bit,  plus a bit extra to cover the tutors
time, (that way you have tutor support), at the end of it you end up
with i guess a certificate to say you have completed that course.

no point in re-inventing the wheel

if you are to do informal courses,  then again base them on the course
requirements as the ubuntu desktop training manual is already written
and well known,.

Just an idea

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[ubuntu-uk] HELP: Flashing a Dell 9200 bios

2010-01-18 Thread Ken Robson
I am trying to update the bios in this Dell that I have just been given.
The Dell page suggests using :-
sudo dellBiosUpdate -u -f ./bios.hdr

this runs but I get a crash on line 185:-
Performing BIOS update...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/sbin/dellBiosUpdate", line 185, in 
sys.exit( main() )
  File "/usr/sbin/dellBiosUpdate", line 153, in main
exit_code = updateBios(HdrFile(options.hdr), options)
  File "", line 3, in updateBios
  File 
"/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/libsmbios_c/trace_decorator.py", line 
98, in trace
result = func(*args, **kw)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/libsmbios_c/rbu_update.py", 
line 95, in updateBios
if compareBiosVersions(ver, hdrfile.biosVersion()) >= 0:
  File "", line 3, in biosVersion
  File 
"/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/libsmbios_c/trace_decorator.py", line 
98, in trace
result = func(*args, **kw)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/libsmbios_c/rbu_hdr.py", line 
86, in biosVersion
ver = "%d.%d.%d" % struct.unpack("BBB", self.hdr.biosVersion)
NameError: global name 'struct' is not defined


Anybody got any clues?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Possible Training Events

2010-01-18 Thread etali
On 18/01/2010 16:06, Bruno Girin wrote:
>
> Beginners are not the easiest people to teach to. I would suggest
> starting with some moderately advanced topics like "how to package an
> app for Ubuntu". That would enable us to rehearse the process with
> trainees who already know the environment, know what they want to get
> out of the training and are more able to provide valuable feedback. It's
> also the sort of training that has simple success criteria, such as by
> the end of it every trainee should be able to package "hello world", so
> you can easily verify that you've met said criteria.
>

Targetting people who already have some experience sounds like a good 
idea.  It should be easier to find people who are interested, through 
LUGs, etc.  They may even have a ready made venue if you offered to go 
to their meetings and do training sessions there.

Of course that doesn't help in terms of promoting Ubuntu to new people, 
but it's better to iron out any kinks in the training process with 
people who already have experience about the product, rather than 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Possible Training Events

2010-01-18 Thread Bruno Girin
On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 12:03 +, Matthew Daubney wrote:
> On 17/01/10 04:08, Bruno Girin wrote:

[snip]

> > In terms of material, I agree that there's no point in having a slide
> > deck as trainees will promptly forget the content. Furthermore it
> > requires a projector, which is more equipment to get hold of. On the
> > other hand, it is essential to give comprehensive course material,
> > including exercises, that they can take home and refer to at their
> > leisure. This can take the form of a CD, the URL of a file to download,
> > etc. One thing to consider as well is a printout of the core course
> > material so that they can follow during the course and take notes.
> >
> >
> At one point there was a proposal to make a DVD from the screencasts, if 
> we could create a set of screencasts with some kind of leaflet to go 
> with it giving some exercises we could achieve two aims at once.

I would add to that some training notes, exercises, answers, etc. in the
form of a text or PDF file. Once people have had any sort of training,
they will want to put it into practice but may not remember everything
that was said so would want to refer back to some material. A screencast
is good but is not always the most practical form when you want to
quickly search for a particular aspect of the session and you can't
copy / paste from a screencast. This material could also include things
like code samples or command line history.

[snip]

>  
> > True but it doesn't have to be huge on day 1. We can test drive the
> > concept with small sessions in a coffee shop between interested people
> > bringing their own laptops.
> >
> > Bruno Girin
> >
> 
> Indeed. It may be best then to create a syllabus for absolute beginners, 
> and then work upwards. I'll be quite happy to run a session at Oggcamp 
> (for those who are planning to attend) to run some real life discussion 
> on this.

Beginners are not the easiest people to teach to. I would suggest
starting with some moderately advanced topics like "how to package an
app for Ubuntu". That would enable us to rehearse the process with
trainees who already know the environment, know what they want to get
out of the training and are more able to provide valuable feedback. It's
also the sort of training that has simple success criteria, such as by
the end of it every trainee should be able to package "hello world", so
you can easily verify that you've met said criteria.

Bruno



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kline'd from Freenode following yesterday's clone bot attack

2010-01-18 Thread Isabell Long
2010/1/18 Jacob Williams :
> Hi there,
>
> I frequent the #ubuntu-uk IRC channel on freenode and was foolish enough to
> click the link in yesterday's clone bot attack (is that right?) and now
> appear to be Kline'd from Freenode. Is anybody else affected? How do I
> resolve this?

Hi,

Basically, just follow the instructions in the kline message and send
an email to kli...@freenode.net with the affected IP address.

Thanks, and hope you either get it sorted or already have got it sorted!

Isabell
issyl0

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-18 Thread John Matthews
Steve wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:50:56 -, John Matthews  wrote:
>
>   
>> I would like to be part of it. I am learning on my own, but it would be
>> good to have taught lessons.
>>
>> John.
>>
>> 
> So what would you like to be taught?
>
>   
Installation stuff, using the Terminal, problem solving using terminal, 
and how to correct the problem once found. I still cant use my laptop 
for watching any vids or using the network. Basic stuff, but stuff that 
you can only learn with somebody actually showing you. Its ok reading, 
but its really confusing reading through all that stuff.

John



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kline'd from Freenode following yesterday's clone bot attack

2010-01-18 Thread David Jones


Jacob Williams wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> 
> I frequent the #ubuntu-uk IRC channel on freenode and was foolish enough 
> to click the link in yesterday's clone bot attack (is that right?) and 
> now appear to be Kline'd from Freenode. Is anybody else affected? How do 
> I resolve this?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jacob (jacobw7)
> 
> 
Jacob you need to send an email to kli...@freenode.net.  Explain what 
happened and you should get a reply.

Regards

DJones

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[ubuntu-uk] Kline'd from Freenode following yesterday's clone bot attack

2010-01-18 Thread Jacob Williams

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