Re: [ubuntu-uk] UFW and IPv6 Tunnelling

2010-09-11 Thread Jon Farmer 
> This one caught me too. Have you looked in /etc/default/ufw and changed the 
> IPV6= line ?
>
> Shaun
>

Hi

Yes, I had that enabled. What I didn't have was forwarding allowed.
That fixed it :-)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UFW and IPv6 Tunnelling

2010-09-11 Thread Shaun ONeil 

On 11 Sep 2010, at 18:29, Jon Farmer  wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I have setup a machine to tunnel IPv6 traffic over IPv4 using
> Freenet6. I am also using radvd to auto config the other IPv6 capable
> clients with IP's from the assigned /56 .With IPv6 forwarding I can
> use IPv6 from any machine on the LAN through the tunnel.
> 
> However when I turn on ufw on the tunnelled machine I lose the IPv6
> routing. I have enable IPv6 in ufw.
> 
> Any idea's what I need to do to get the machine to forward the IPv6
> requests from the LAN?
> 
> My google-fu has failed me on this one.
> 
> Any help appreciated.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Jon
> 
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This one caught me too. Have you looked in /etc/default/ufw and changed the 
IPV6= line ?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Direction

2010-09-11 Thread Anton Piatek 
I generally disagree with the original comments - Ubuntu has always
shipped non-free software (flash, sun java, ...) and this is mostly
for the user's benefit in that these applications are very much
desired. If I want a pure, free environment I use Debian.

The software centre is not new - I recall partner repositories as far
back as at least jaunty, but probably earlier, and I think these are
not only a good idea but important for the long-term success of Ubuntu
- Being able to provide things like IBM's free-to-use DB2 and WAS-CE
are important for making the platform more successful and being able
to get support from other software suppliers.

Of course not everyone will agree with me, and that is fine.

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[ubuntu-uk] UFW and IPv6 Tunnelling

2010-09-11 Thread Jon Farmer 
Hi

I have setup a machine to tunnel IPv6 traffic over IPv4 using
Freenet6. I am also using radvd to auto config the other IPv6 capable
clients with IP's from the assigned /56 .With IPv6 forwarding I can
use IPv6 from any machine on the LAN through the tunnel.

However when I turn on ufw on the tunnelled machine I lose the IPv6
routing. I have enable IPv6 in ufw.

Any idea's what I need to do to get the machine to forward the IPv6
requests from the LAN?

My google-fu has failed me on this one.

Any help appreciated.

Regards

Jon


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Direction

2010-09-11 Thread John Stevenson 
On 11 September 2010 16:39, Daniel Case  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have just tried the 10.10 Beta and here are my thoughts.
>
> Is it just me, or does anyone else think Ubuntu is losing its direction
> from its initial philosophy? I have seen it happen all too often with
> company-owned software, first it will be open source, then it will have some
> closed source stuff (which Ubuntu now gives you option to install at the
> install screen - despite it being closed source)
>
> There is also now a paid software section in the Ubuntu Software Center and
> finally...a tiny one, but the one that really annoyed me, the fact that
> ctrl+alt+d no longer takes you the desktop as it does in every other
> distribution and did since Ubuntu was first thought of, it is now
> "WINDOWS+d".
>
> Just my 2p (since its UK ;))
>
> Daniel
>
> Daniel,
I am afraid I dont share your thought that Ubuntu is loosing direction, in
fact I feel that Ubuntu and Canonical have not only kept in line with that
philosophy they have also been responsible for a lot more people getting
interested in open source and widening its appeal.  I am more concerned
about other open source communities and companies that seem to have
something against them.

You mention that you can now install "closed source" software as part of the
install, I have not seen any indication that there is additional software in
the installation that is not already part of the Ubuntu repositories.  Can
you elaborate?

Most of my laptops dont have a windows key and neither do many of the apple
computers running Ubuntu - I hope that your comment was more venting than a
real argument as I could understand that better.  I hope you are not
inferring that everyone running Ubuntu has to buy a windows computer first
:-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Direction

2010-09-11 Thread Rob Beard 
On 11/09/10 16:39, Daniel Case wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have just tried the 10.10 Beta and here are my thoughts.

Okay to be fair I haven't had chance to try the 10.10 Beta yet, when I 
free up some space I'm going to to give it a try.

>
> Is it just me, or does anyone else think Ubuntu is losing its direction
> from its initial philosophy? I have seen it happen all too often with
> company-owned software, first it will be open source, then it will have
> some closed source stuff (which Ubuntu now gives you option to install
> at the install screen - despite it being closed source)

Yes and no.  I'd be the first to admit I wasn't keen on the UI changes 
in Ubuntu 10.04 although now I'm used to the changes.  AFAIK Ubuntu has 
always offered some closed source stuff (closed source drivers and 
things like the option of adding Flash, Adobe Reader etc).  I guess the 
idea of adding closed source software to the Ubuntu Software Centre is 
so that Canonical can maybe take commission on sales of software.  IIRC 
for a while they've had the option to add commercial software, possibly 
not so easily but it's been available (things like video codecs, 
CrossOver Office maybe).  More and more people are getting used to 'App 
Stores', possibly because of the sheer popularity of the iPhone/iPod 
Touch/iPad.

Personally I think if adding a Software Centre brings in more users then 
that has to be a good thing.  Plus we're not being forced to buy 
commercial software or even download free proprietary software if we 
don't want to.  If we do however want to add non-free components (Flash, 
codecs etc) then it's being made easier (especially for new users who 
possibly come to expect this sort of thing when they're coming from 
Windows/Mac).

Thinking back a few years ago, one of the complaints that I heard from 
some Windows users (one complaint I had myself when I first started 
using Linux was that I couldn't download a setup program).  Some people 
kind of expect this too and I think maybe the simplicity of the Software 
Centre is a good thing until they learn that they can add repositories 
and install deb (or even rpm packages with Alien and .tar.gz packages).


> There is also now a paid software section in the Ubuntu Software Center
> and finally...a tiny one, but the one that really annoyed me, the fact
> that ctrl+alt+d no longer takes you the desktop as it does in every
> other distribution and did since Ubuntu was first thought of, it is now
> "WINDOWS+d".

You can always change it back.  Personally I change it to Windows + D as 
I use Windows at work and it's just habit for me.  Same goes for Windows 
+ L.  Maybe they'll change the Ctrl + Alt + L shortcut to Windows + L 
before the final release.


> Just my 2p (since its UK ;))

That's fair enough.  At the end of the day we do have plenty of choice 
on distros, themes, desktop environments.  In a way I think we're lucky 
that we're not stuck with one thing, and I also think we're really lucky 
that we don't have to purchase a specific version for specific features 
(as with Windows where you get Windows Media Center on Windows 7 Home 
Premium and Ultimate or the ability to add to domains on Windows 7 
Professional or Ultimate).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Direction

2010-09-11 Thread Daniel Case 
Looking again, its still ctrl+alt+l to lock...crazy!

Daniel

On 11 September 2010 16:39, Daniel Case  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have just tried the 10.10 Beta and here are my thoughts.
>
> Is it just me, or does anyone else think Ubuntu is losing its direction
> from its initial philosophy? I have seen it happen all too often with
> company-owned software, first it will be open source, then it will have some
> closed source stuff (which Ubuntu now gives you option to install at the
> install screen - despite it being closed source)
>
> There is also now a paid software section in the Ubuntu Software Center and
> finally...a tiny one, but the one that really annoyed me, the fact that
> ctrl+alt+d no longer takes you the desktop as it does in every other
> distribution and did since Ubuntu was first thought of, it is now
> "WINDOWS+d".
>
> Just my 2p (since its UK ;))
>
> Daniel
>
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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Direction

2010-09-11 Thread Daniel Case 
Hi All,

I have just tried the 10.10 Beta and here are my thoughts.

Is it just me, or does anyone else think Ubuntu is losing its direction from
its initial philosophy? I have seen it happen all too often with
company-owned software, first it will be open source, then it will have some
closed source stuff (which Ubuntu now gives you option to install at the
install screen - despite it being closed source)

There is also now a paid software section in the Ubuntu Software Center and
finally...a tiny one, but the one that really annoyed me, the fact that
ctrl+alt+d no longer takes you the desktop as it does in every other
distribution and did since Ubuntu was first thought of, it is now
"WINDOWS+d".

Just my 2p (since its UK ;))

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[ubuntu-uk] Kernel/BugTriage/Summit/Maverick Taking place today

2010-09-11 Thread Laura Czajkowski 
  Aloha folks

Just to let you know that the Kernel team have organised the first 
Kernel Bug Triage Summit taking place today! Everyone is invited to take 
part and learn from the experts.  The time table is HERE -> 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BugTriage/Summit/Maverick  It's a short 
day so if you can't make all of the sessions pop in for one

This will take place on Saturday September 11, 2010  (TODAY) in 
#ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat.

Please note: This event is the first one of its kind planned. As such, 
we are keenly interested in your feedback on how you think it went. 
Please send feedback to kernel-t...@lists.ubuntu.com 
. Based on your feedback, and that 
of the various involved parties, we may change the way we do the next one.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem Installing Ubuntu 10.04.1 Desktop

2010-09-11 Thread Liam Proven 
On 10 September 2010 12:08, pmgazz  wrote:
> On 10.04 Gwibber has suddenly started opening the add account window
> spontaneously whether Gwibber is running or not. Anyone else getting this?

Please don't hijack other threads. Start a new message to
 if you want to change the subject.


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[ubuntu-uk] Gwibber account window spontaneously opening

2010-09-11 Thread Liam Proven 
On 10 September 2010 12:08, pmgazz  wrote:
> On 10.04 Gwibber has suddenly started opening the add account window
> spontaneously whether Gwibber is running or not. Anyone else getting this?

I am getting this as well; I don't know why, but it is extremely
annoying. Just started late this week.

I even tried ensuring all my account info was up to date and current,
so it didn't need to ask, but it didn't help.

FWIW, I am on Mint 9, a respin of Ubuntu, not the main thing.

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