Re: [ubuntu-uk] asus EeePC touchscreen
the latest one (10.10 NBR) straight off the website. it's an Asus EeeTop * ET2010PNT* Jacob Mansfield Programmer On 25 October 2010 17:02, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 25 October 2010 16:58, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote: would anybody know how to get the touchscreen to work on an asus EeePC? I've just installed NBR but there's a 'no unity driver' error when starting the NBR version of gnome. all help appreciated. Which model of Eee PC is that, and what release of Ubuntu? Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Server won't start without screen
Hi I set up Ubuntu 10.04 LTS server on a Mac Mini and shipped it off to our other office (too far for me to go and troubleshoot) where they plugged in a screen configured the network settings in the cli and then unplugged the screen. Everything worked fine until at some point a few weeks later the machine was switched off and when turned on again it wouldn't boot up properly (well it wouldn't appear on the network) until a screen was plugged in at which point it booted fine and appeared on the network without any problem. Unfortunately I'm not sure how the unit came to have the power disconnected it is plugged into a UPS all I know is that it was turned off when staff came in in the morning. This same scenario occurred a second time a week or so later and once again a screen was required for the server to be fully operational. When it starts up with a screen I'm told there is nothing unusual and it just shows the login prompt - there is no windowing system installed it's a basic LAMP server installation We have another Mac Mini (not 100% the same spec but as close as damn it) with exactly the same Ubuntu 10.04 LTS server installation on it and that boots headless without any problems So my questions: Is there some setting somewhere in Ubuntu that requires a screen to be plugged in that I can disable? Is something else going on here? Is it possible that if the server is booted with a screen and then shut down by a power failure expects a screen on reboot and is confused if there isn't one attached? Cheers Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Server won't start without screen
On 26/10/10 20:50, Paul Willis wrote: Hi I set up Ubuntu 10.04 LTS server on a Mac Mini and shipped it off to our other office (too far for me to go and troubleshoot) where they plugged in a screen configured the network settings in the cli and then unplugged the screen. Everything worked fine until at some point a few weeks later the machine was switched off and when turned on again it wouldn't boot up properly (well it wouldn't appear on the network) until a screen was plugged in at which point it booted fine and appeared on the network without any problem. Unfortunately I'm not sure how the unit came to have the power disconnected it is plugged into a UPS all I know is that it was turned off when staff came in in the morning. This same scenario occurred a second time a week or so later and once again a screen was required for the server to be fully operational. When it starts up with a screen I'm told there i I've run a couple of headless servers and never had this issue, it just carries on. That's not to say there maybe a setting where the Mac expects a monitor to be connected. I've seen something along these lines on some PCs although it tends to be more a keyboard or mouse not plugged in rather than a screen not plugged in. Does it boot when the screen is plugged in but turned off? Also, could it be that some cleaner is unplugging the UPS or something thinks that the machine should be turned off to save electricity thinking they're being helpful? If you solve it or not I'd suggest maybe putting something on the plug or a note over the socket saying that the kit has to be kept plugged in and turned on. I've seen some things that you can get which fit round the plug and cover the power switch (although I don't know where you can get them from, maybe Maplins, CPC etc or even an office supplies company maybe?). By the way, I did a quick google search, looks like someone else is having a similar issue with a Mac Mini but with XP... http://forums.macnn.com/104/alternative-operating-systems/296206/headless-mac-mini-server-using-bootcamp/ Might give you more to go on. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Server won't start without screen
On 26 October 2010 21:09, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: On 26/10/10 20:50, Paul Willis wrote: Hi I set up Ubuntu 10.04 LTS server on a Mac Mini and shipped it off to our other office (too far for me to go and troubleshoot) where they plugged in a screen configured the network settings in the cli and then unplugged the screen. Everything worked fine until at some point a few weeks later the machine was switched off and when turned on again it wouldn't boot up properly (well it wouldn't appear on the network) until a screen was plugged in at which point it booted fine and appeared on the network without any problem. Unfortunately I'm not sure how the unit came to have the power disconnected it is plugged into a UPS all I know is that it was turned off when staff came in in the morning. This same scenario occurred a second time a week or so later and once again a screen was required for the server to be fully operational. When it starts up with a screen I'm told there i I've run a couple of headless servers and never had this issue, it just carries on. That's not to say there maybe a setting where the Mac expects a monitor to be connected. I've seen something along these lines on some PCs although it tends to be more a keyboard or mouse not plugged in rather than a screen not plugged in. Does it boot when the screen is plugged in but turned off? Also, could it be that some cleaner is unplugging the UPS or something thinks that the machine should be turned off to save electricity thinking they're being helpful? If you solve it or not I'd suggest maybe putting something on the plug or a note over the socket saying that the kit has to be kept plugged in and turned on. I've seen some things that you can get which fit round the plug and cover the power switch (although I don't know where you can get them from, maybe Maplins, CPC etc or even an office supplies company maybe?). By the way, I did a quick google search, looks like someone else is having a similar issue with a Mac Mini but with XP... http://forums.macnn.com/104/alternative-operating-systems/296206/headless-mac-mini-server-using-bootcamp/ Might give you more to go on. You could try disabling the DVI port in the Ubuntu config. Xorg does test on boot whether a screen is installed or not, so you might need to set the DVI port to be ignored. This article gives a clue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=992602 but not much detail. s/ -- My CV: http://bit.ly/sfgreenwood_cv Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/simonfgreenwood Twitter: @sfgreenwood -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Server won't start without screen
Do you get to see what happens when the screen is plugged in? i.e,. is it stuck before grub or after? I kind of assume you aren't running X on the server (stock ubuntu server, right?) I know of a hosting company who uses mac minis (though I can't think of who they are at the moment... grumble...) as a server that sits between dedicated machines and virtual servers. Obviously only good for low-intensity i/o tasks. You might try to find them to see if there's something mac-specific that's going on. I would easily put £20 on it being a mac thing that has to be disabled in the mac prom, but I've no idea how to do that (I don't think that apple opens up their firmwares to outside people) Aha! Here's the company. The short version suggests not using boot camp (I'm not sure what else you might use) http://www.mythic-beasts.com/support/macminicolo_howto.html On 26/10/10 21:57, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 26 October 2010 21:09, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk mailto:r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: On 26/10/10 20:50, Paul Willis wrote: Hi I set up Ubuntu 10.04 LTS server on a Mac Mini and shipped it off to our other office (too far for me to go and troubleshoot) where they plugged in a screen configured the network settings in the cli and then unplugged the screen. Everything worked fine until at some point a few weeks later the machine was switched off and when turned on again it wouldn't boot up properly (well it wouldn't appear on the network) until a screen was plugged in at which point it booted fine and appeared on the network without any problem. Unfortunately I'm not sure how the unit came to have the power disconnected it is plugged into a UPS all I know is that it was turned off when staff came in in the morning. This same scenario occurred a second time a week or so later and once again a screen was required for the server to be fully operational. When it starts up with a screen I'm told there i I've run a couple of headless servers and never had this issue, it just carries on. That's not to say there maybe a setting where the Mac expects a monitor to be connected. I've seen something along these lines on some PCs although it tends to be more a keyboard or mouse not plugged in rather than a screen not plugged in. Does it boot when the screen is plugged in but turned off? Also, could it be that some cleaner is unplugging the UPS or something thinks that the machine should be turned off to save electricity thinking they're being helpful? If you solve it or not I'd suggest maybe putting something on the plug or a note over the socket saying that the kit has to be kept plugged in and turned on. I've seen some things that you can get which fit round the plug and cover the power switch (although I don't know where you can get them from, maybe Maplins, CPC etc or even an office supplies company maybe?). By the way, I did a quick google search, looks like someone else is having a similar issue with a Mac Mini but with XP... http://forums.macnn.com/104/alternative-operating-systems/296206/headless-mac-mini-server-using-bootcamp/ Might give you more to go on. You could try disabling the DVI port in the Ubuntu config. Xorg does test on boot whether a screen is installed or not, so you might need to set the DVI port to be ignored. This article gives a clue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=992602 but not much detail. s/ -- My CV: http://bit.ly/sfgreenwood_cv Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/simonfgreenwood Twitter: @sfgreenwood -- Glen Mehn glen.m...@oba.co.uk skype: glenmehn | blog: http://glen.mehn.net/mba UK: +44(0)7942 675 755 | US: +1 415 704 4737 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Server won't start without screen
On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 21:57 +0100, Simon Greenwood wrote: You could try disabling the DVI port in the Ubuntu config. I doubt very, very much that Ubuntu has anything to do with this. Start by checking that EFI, the Mac equivalent of BIOS, has a setting to ignore boot errors, or headless boot, or something like that. Disclaimer: I'm very familiar with the boot process on PC hardware, but have never done anything with EFI. Regards, Tyler -- Your enemy is never a villain in his own eyes. Keep this in mind; it may offer a way to make him your friend. If not, you can kill him without hate - and quickly. -- Lazarus Long, Time Enough for Love, by Robert A. Heinlein -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Server won't start without screen
On 26/10/10 22:41, Glen Mehn wrote: Do you get to see what happens when the screen is plugged in? i.e,. is it stuck before grub or after? I kind of assume you aren't running X on the server (stock ubuntu server, right?) I know of a hosting company who uses mac minis (though I can't think of who they are at the moment... grumble...) as a server that sits between dedicated machines and virtual servers. Obviously only good for low-intensity i/o tasks. You might try to find them to see if there's something mac-specific that's going on. I would easily put £20 on it being a mac thing that has to be disabled in the mac prom, but I've no idea how to do that (I don't think that apple opens up their firmwares to outside people) Aha! Here's the company. The short version suggests not using boot camp (I'm not sure what else you might use) http://www.mythic-beasts.com/support/macminicolo_howto.html Doing some more reading on http://forums.macnn.com/104/alternative-operating-systems/296206/headless-mac-mini-server-using-bootcamp/ it looks like a couple of pins need to be connected together with a resistor on the DVI port. Details are on the thread a bit further down (there is a link from the link to the Macnn.com forum but it's a broken link). It appears to be something to do with Bootcamp. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Server won't start without screen
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 23:28:35 +0100 Rob Beard wrote: On 26/10/10 22:41, Glen Mehn wrote: Do you get to see what happens when the screen is plugged in? i.e,. is it stuck before grub or after? I kind of assume you aren't running X on the server (stock ubuntu server, right?) I know of a hosting company who uses mac minis (though I can't think of who they are at the moment... grumble...) as a server that sits between dedicated machines and virtual servers. Obviously only good for low-intensity i/o tasks. You might try to find them to see if there's something mac-specific that's going on. I would easily put £20 on it being a mac thing that has to be disabled in the mac prom, but I've no idea how to do that (I don't think that apple opens up their firmwares to outside people) Aha! Here's the company. The short version suggests not using boot camp (I'm not sure what else you might use) http://www.mythic-beasts.com/support/macminicolo_howto.html Doing some more reading on http://forums.macnn.com/104/alternative-operating-systems/296206/headless-mac-mini-server-using-bootcamp/ it looks like a couple of pins need to be connected together with a resistor on the DVI port. Details are on the thread a bit further down (there is a link from the link to the Macnn.com forum but it's a broken link). It appears to be something to do with Bootcamp. Rob I have not looked into this, but is there no way of installing Ubuntu natively without resorting to bootcamp's fake BIOS environment? If it is bootcamp's VGA issue that is causing this problem, and Ubuntu can be installed natively sans bootcamp, then surely there's the answer right there. (BTW, I do not have an EFI IntelliMac... mine is a nice old OF G3 iBook.) Grant. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Unity and Gnome Shell
rant I have been looking at reviews of Gnome Shell, and I do not like what I have seen. (I have also tried running it, without success so far.) The screenshots show lots of white text on a black background, which I dislike as I find it difficult to read, although I suppose that there will be themes available in due course which I will find more acceptable. More importantly, I suspect that for some uses it will be more awkward than Gnome 2. If I am understanding it correctly, if there are two or more maximised windows open on one desktop, switching between them will take 2 or 3 mouse clicks, rather than just one as at present. However, I dare say if I used it for a while once it has been more fully developed I could get used to it. I have also tried using Unity, which is apparently to be the default for 11.04. The first problem was that it was unacceptably slow, taking several seconds to respond to mouse clicks, and therefore I quickly uninstalled it. However, I saw enough of it to decide that there is no way I want to use it; the whole concept seems totally unsuitable for desktop computers. I do not think I would be happy using it even on a netbook. If, when I first tried Ubuntu, I had been faced with someting along the lines of Unity, I would probably still be using Windows. The decision to move the window controls from the right to the left would have been annoying, but it is easy to move them back. I doubt if I will be installing any version of Ubuntu which includes Unity, unless it is possible to replace it easily with Gnome 2 or an improved Gnome Shell. I guess I will be sticking to 10.4 and 10.10 for a while, and then if Canonical are still touting Unity I will just have to switch to Debian. /rant Les. __ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Comunity meetups
Hello All, New to this mailing list, just wanted to ask a quick question for the moment. Anybody know of active ubuntu (or plain Linux) communities in the southwest london area? Richmond or Kingston? Would be nice to meet up with other users and have a share: I just casually met this guy in Clapham but it's way out of may way. Is the people nearby account in epifany supposed to help? Regards, Andrés Muñiz-Piniella -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
