Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nouveau

2010-12-05 Thread danteash...@gmail.com
Sorry, but GMail does not like posting at the bottom...

It was suggested that I run the 'apt-get install nvidia-current' command if
booting into Ubuntu leads to a failed X session (and thus, text-mode). This
is due to an issue between Nouveau and my onboard graphics, which is
extremely disconcerting to me as, every time I need to reinstall my system,
I have to install from 10.04 (which, unlike 10.10, accepts 'xforcevesa' at
the boot options) and upgrade from there.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nouveau

2010-12-05 Thread Colin Law
On 5 December 2010 08:21, danteash...@gmail.com danteash...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, but GMail does not like posting at the bottom...

You don't have to worry about what GMail likes or does not like, you
will not significantly hurt its feelings by going against its attempts
to force undesirable practices on you.  Remember, you are in charge,
not Google.  Just scroll down to the bottom before typing  (even
better delete the first couple of blank lines before starting).


 It was suggested that I run the 'apt-get install nvidia-current' command if
 booting into Ubuntu leads to a failed X session (and thus, text-mode). This
 is due to an issue between Nouveau and my onboard graphics, which is
 extremely disconcerting to me as, every time I need to reinstall my system,
 I have to install from 10.04 (which, unlike 10.10, accepts 'xforcevesa' at
 the boot options) and upgrade from there.

By top posting and not even quoting the previous reply this message
does not mean a lot.  Is it in reply to a previous post or just a
statement.

Colin

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nouveau

2010-12-05 Thread danteash...@gmail.com
On 5 December 2010 08:27, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On 5 December 2010 08:21, danteash...@gmail.com danteash...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Sorry, but GMail does not like posting at the bottom...

 You don't have to worry about what GMail likes or does not like, you
 will not significantly hurt its feelings by going against its attempts
 to force undesirable practices on you.  Remember, you are in charge,
 not Google.  Just scroll down to the bottom before typing  (even
 better delete the first couple of blank lines before starting).

 
  It was suggested that I run the 'apt-get install nvidia-current' command
 if
  booting into Ubuntu leads to a failed X session (and thus, text-mode).
 This
  is due to an issue between Nouveau and my onboard graphics, which is
  extremely disconcerting to me as, every time I need to reinstall my
 system,
  I have to install from 10.04 (which, unlike 10.10, accepts 'xforcevesa'
 at
  the boot options) and upgrade from there.

 By top posting and not even quoting the previous reply this message
 does not mean a lot.  Is it in reply to a previous post or just a
 statement.

 Colin

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Fine, how's this? I did mean Sorry, but GMail does not like posting at the
bottom... in a whimsical manner, you know.

I was hoping, by that statement, that you or others would see flaws in what
I was told (if there were any) because I'd really rather like to not end up
with 10.04 again.

I will not quote this entire 'conversation' because I simply cannot be
bothered to rearrange 10 or so previous messages. Sorry if this is an
annoyance. :/


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Accessing Shared folders on a Windows 7 machine from Ubuntu 10.04

2010-12-05 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 03/12/2010 12:31, Matthew Daubney wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 16:05 +, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 I have removed the Homegroup , replaced it with a Workgroup and shared
 folders on the Windows Machine.
 I have installed Samba and changed the Workgroup name on the Ubuntu
 machine to match that of the Windows 7 machine.
 The Ubuntu machine sees the 7 machine, but all that happens when I try
 to access the shares is that the log-on screen keeps returning and I
 can't access the shares.
 Any thoughts as to what I should be looking at?

 Have you allowed a user to the share in the smb.conf? And have you added
 the user to the samba database using smbpasswd?

 -Matt Daubney



This is trying to access a Windows 7 share FROM Ubuntu - I didn't think 
that involved Samba?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Want to create an advert for Ubuntu?

2010-12-05 Thread Avi Greenbury
Liam Proven wrote:

Attempting to recreate the sort of tone of your email

 [1] it's immune to all viruses and spyware
 [5] it reads and writes all Microsoft files and anything from any
 Windows or Mac program.

If you're going to be picky and pedantic, at least be correct. These
two are patently incorrect[0],[1]. Claiming otherwise to anyone to whom
those are important traits will only dissapoint them when it turns out
that Linux/Ubuntu/whatever isn't the utopian OS they were sold it as.
One thing I'd really like us to advertise on is honesty - the openness
of bug reporting and the like, for example - and lying to get people to
use the OS doesn't sit particularly well with that.


[0] - Viruses for Linux/Unix abound. Go google. Sure, the OS is
relatively safe from them but most users care more about their own files
than their OS, and they've full write privileges to that. And all
tutorials now appear to start with 'sudo' in any case. Making people
believe that there are no viruses just means they'll think even less
before copying and pasting stuff into xterm.

[1] As for reading and writing all MS files and anything from any Win
or OSX program, for obvious complete incompatibility AutoCAD and
FruitLoops come to mind. OOo/MSOffice compatibility is still nowhere
near good enough for one to just replace the other.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Accessing Shared folders on a Windows 7 machine from Ubuntu 10.04

2010-12-05 Thread Matthew Daubney
On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 10:12 +, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 On 03/12/2010 12:31, Matthew Daubney wrote:
  On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 16:05 +, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
  I have removed the Homegroup , replaced it with a Workgroup and shared
  folders on the Windows Machine.
  I have installed Samba and changed the Workgroup name on the Ubuntu
  machine to match that of the Windows 7 machine.
  The Ubuntu machine sees the 7 machine, but all that happens when I try
  to access the shares is that the log-on screen keeps returning and I
  can't access the shares.
  Any thoughts as to what I should be looking at?
 
  Have you allowed a user to the share in the smb.conf? And have you added
  the user to the samba database using smbpasswd?
 
  -Matt Daubney
 
 
 
 This is trying to access a Windows 7 share FROM Ubuntu - I didn't think 
 that involved Samba?
 
Ah, I had the question backwards then. You are using your windows
username/password? You may need to prefix it with the machine name i.e.
if your Win 7 machine was called bistromath it might be \\Bistromath
\Username or somesuch.

-Matt Daubney


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nouveau

2010-12-05 Thread Liam Proven
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:21 AM, danteash...@gmail.com
danteash...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, but GMail does not like posting at the bottom...

Absolute nonsense. I'm using Gmail right now and it bottom-posts flawlessly.

If you look toward the bottom right corner of your keyboard, you will
see some buttons with arrows on them. These are called cursor keys
and they let you move around the little line that indicates where your
typing appears. What you do is, you move down to the bit to which
you're replying, insert some blank spaces, type in your response, and
repeat. Anything you're not responding you, such as signatures, you
delete.

Then you press send.

It's not hard, tricky, technical, or difficult to understand unless
you are, in fact, say, a dog. It's the web; we can't tell, you see.

If you're on an Android mobile phone, OK, fair dos, that Gmail client
can't bottom-quote. But if you are participating on mailing lists from
your phone, install K9 and use that.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Want to create an advert for Ubuntu?

2010-12-05 Thread Liam Proven
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Avi Greenbury
avismailinglistacco...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Liam Proven wrote:

 Attempting to recreate the sort of tone of your email

Works for me.

 [1] it's immune to all viruses and spyware
 [5] it reads and writes all Microsoft files and anything from any
 Windows or Mac program.

 If you're going to be picky and pedantic, at least be correct. These
 two are patently incorrect[0],[1]. Claiming otherwise to anyone to whom
 those are important traits will only dissapoint them when it turns out
 that Linux/Ubuntu/whatever isn't the utopian OS they were sold it as.
 One thing I'd really like us to advertise on is honesty - the openness
 of bug reporting and the like, for example - and lying to get people to
 use the OS doesn't sit particularly well with that.


 [0] - Viruses for Linux/Unix abound. Go google. Sure, the OS is
 relatively safe from them but most users care more about their own files
 than their OS, and they've full write privileges to that. And all
 tutorials now appear to start with 'sudo' in any case. Making people
 believe that there are no viruses just means they'll think even less
 before copying and pasting stuff into xterm.

I am aware of a number of worms and a handful - a tiny handful - of
virus-like programs that have been demonstrated under lab conditions.
Out in the wild? I'm not aware of a single instance of a live Linux
virus propagating in the wild. If you are, do please share your
knowledge.

 [1] As for reading and writing all MS files and anything from any Win
 or OSX program, for obvious complete incompatibility AutoCAD and
 FruitLoops come to mind. OOo/MSOffice compatibility is still nowhere
 near good enough for one to just replace the other.

I have no idea what FruitLoops is. AutoCAD I can believe would be
difficult, but then, the only way to open an AutoCAD file is to have a
copy of AutoCAD, isn't it? IOW, 99.99% of Windows PCs can't open
AutoCAD files anyway.

I have in the past found ways to view the contents of plain .DXF
files; I would not be surprised if with some ingenuity, this could be
done on Linux.

I feel that my statements are entirely reasonable and acceptable
generalisations and I do not agree with your attempted rebuttals.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nouveau

2010-12-05 Thread danteash...@gmail.com
On 6 December 2010 00:34, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:21 AM, danteash...@gmail.com
 danteash...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sorry, but GMail does not like posting at the bottom...

 Absolute nonsense. I'm using Gmail right now and it bottom-posts
 flawlessly.

 If you look toward the bottom right corner of your keyboard, you will
 see some buttons with arrows on them. These are called cursor keys
 and they let you move around the little line that indicates where your
 typing appears. What you do is, you move down to the bit to which
 you're replying, insert some blank spaces, type in your response, and
 repeat. Anything you're not responding you, such as signatures, you
 delete.

 Then you press send.

 It's not hard, tricky, technical, or difficult to understand unless
 you are, in fact, say, a dog. It's the web; we can't tell, you see.

 If you're on an Android mobile phone, OK, fair dos, that Gmail client
 can't bottom-quote. But if you are participating on mailing lists from
 your phone, install K9 and use that.

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