Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Earth .....

2011-02-20 Thread Dan Attwood 
Google earth used to be part of the medibuntu report. Is that not still the
case?
On Feb 20, 2011 5:31 PM, "Barry Drake"  wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 17:08 +, J Fernyhough wrote:
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
>
> Thanks. I missed that one. It would have worked for my sister 'as is'
> if I'd given her the link and told her to download then click on the
> file. They only seem to offer it as 32bit and I'd have to use --force
> to try it on my 64bit Maverick (if that would work)  ah well,
> can't have everything.
>
> Thanks again, Barry.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Live usb question

2011-02-20 Thread Barry Titterton 
On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 21:32 +, Jim Price wrote:
> On 19/02/11 15:54, Barry Titterton wrote:

> > Can any of the members explain it? Is this normal behaviour for a live
> > USB?

Thanks to Rob, Neil and Jim for their answers. Much appreciated.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Earth .....

2011-02-20 Thread Barry Drake 
On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 17:08 +, J Fernyhough wrote:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth

Thanks.  I missed that one.  It would have worked for my sister 'as is'
if I'd given her the link and told her to download then click on the
file.  They only seem to offer it as 32bit and I'd have to use --force
to try it on my 64bit Maverick (if that would work)    ah well,
can't have everything.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Earth .....

2011-02-20 Thread Dianne Reuby 
On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 17:04 +, Barry Drake wrote:
> Hi there   My sister asked me to pop over there this morning because
> she really wanted to use Google Earth.  It is not difficult to make it
> work, but I had to get and install stuff by the commandline.  Not
> something I could have talked her through over the phone.  I wonder if
> Google Earth has been asked to offer Deb packages?  Is there a history
> here? If so, can someone fill me in please?  I notice in the Ubuntu
> repository there is a 'Google Earth Package maker'.  That struck me as
> very odd.  Why not just a simple shell script that does what I had to
> do?  Or am I missing something?

I'm sure I didn't install using a command line - I have Ubuntu 10.10. Or
have I forgotten a moment of genius?

Dianne


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Earth .....

2011-02-20 Thread J Fernyhough 
On 20 February 2011 17:04, Barry Drake  wrote:
> Hi there   My sister asked me to pop over there this morning because
> she really wanted to use Google Earth.  It is not difficult to make it
> work, but I had to get and install stuff by the commandline.  Not
> something I could have talked her through over the phone.  I wonder if
> Google Earth has been asked to offer Deb packages?  Is there a history
> here? If so, can someone fill me in please?  I notice in the Ubuntu
> repository there is a 'Google Earth Package maker'.  That struck me as
> very odd.  Why not just a simple shell script that does what I had to
> do?  Or am I missing something?


https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth

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[ubuntu-uk] Google Earth .....

2011-02-20 Thread Barry Drake 
Hi there   My sister asked me to pop over there this morning because
she really wanted to use Google Earth.  It is not difficult to make it
work, but I had to get and install stuff by the commandline.  Not
something I could have talked her through over the phone.  I wonder if
Google Earth has been asked to offer Deb packages?  Is there a history
here? If so, can someone fill me in please?  I notice in the Ubuntu
repository there is a 'Google Earth Package maker'.  That struck me as
very odd.  Why not just a simple shell script that does what I had to
do?  Or am I missing something?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-20 Thread Liam Proven 
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Hassan "Haz" Williamson
 wrote:
> @Liam, You could have saved yourself some heart ache by just installing
> LibreOffice with the PPA.

Thanks for the tip, I shall look into it. I don't recall how I
installed LO on my desktop, but I don't see any repos for LO in my
sources.list so I guess I must have just downloaded it.

The following, although it may seem petter, isn't. It's important. I
don't want to seem ungrateful but it's kind of a big deal.

*Please*, do not use that bulletin-board style "@Liam" thing again, to
anyone on any mailing list. I missed your message because it wasn't
threaded as a response to me.

The *only* reason for "@username" is on crappy flat fora with no
threading - it enables you to direct responses when the software is
too crap, broken and pathetic to support threading, which has been a
standard feature of email and newsgroups for about 35 years now. Or,
of course, that the authors are too damned stupid to have implemented
it.

This is the reason I don't use the Ubuntu fora and won't use web fora
in general unless there is no alternative. No threading means a
useless, chaotic mess.

If you'd replied to me, my email client would have told me about it.
As it was, you didn't, you only replied to Mac and I happened to
stumble across the message revisiting the thread.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-20 Thread Bruno Girin 
On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 11:37 +, Simon Greenwood wrote:


> Is there anything significant preventing LO being put into the
> Ubuntu Software Centre? When LO gets into Ubuntu as it will,
> in 11.04, I will certainly use it, but my tech experience
> level is not really sufficient to effortlessly manage PPAs and
> the possible complication of the existing Open Office too.
> 
> If LO was to be available in the Ubuntu Software Centre then I
> would use it now.
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> 
> I would guess that it's Canonical policy: the office suite is seen as
> a core component in Desktop and as such is maintained.OO and LO
> probably don't exactly coexist in Linux so having one or the other is
> a practical consideration as well as a policy decision.

I think the main reason is that at the moment, all software in the
software centre for a given cycle (say 10.10) is fixed at the time of
the release, down to the actual version of the software. The only thing
that get in the repos of a released version of Ubuntu are fixes.

There are plans to change this from 11.04 forward so that new software
or new versions of existing software (like Firefox 4) can be included
without having to manually add a PPA.

Besides, the libreoffice package will actually remove openoffice.org
when you install it, not because they don't like OOo but because the two
suites have too much in common while having subtle differences and as
you say above having both of them side by side would mean a lot of
potential complications.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast returning

2011-02-20 Thread d...@fishms.org 
Oh no, not more of this rubbish! 
Seriously, a great show and looking forwards to the new season. Keep up the 
good work! 

Dan

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From: "Alan Pope" 
To: "British Ubuntu Talk" 
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast returning
Date: Sat, Feb 19, 2011 20:32


Hi all,

As you can see by the website, we're returning with Season 4 of the
Ubuntu UK Podcast in 10 days.

http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/

We're changing things a little in that we'll record the show live on a
Tuesday evening at ~20:30 and then release it as a podcast the next
day. We'll update the site nearer the time with details of how to
listen in and of course how to get in contact, but for those of you
who already have the details, they won't change:-

Twitter: http://twitter.com/uupc
Identi.ca: http://identi.ca/uupc
Email: podc...@ubuntu-uk.org
Phone: +44 (0) 203 298 1600
sip: podc...@sip.ubuntu-uk.org
skype: ubuntuukpodcast

It'll still be about an hour long and contain much the same content as
previous years. Contributions, suggestions, comments as ever are very
welcome!

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast returning

2011-02-20 Thread Jacob Mansfield 
On 20 February 2011 11:55, Mark Fraser  wrote:
> Isn't that someone doing a handstand?

surely that is
 o
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast returning

2011-02-20 Thread Mark Fraser 
On Sunday 20 Feb 2011 11:08:18 Alan Bell wrote:
> On 20/02/11 10:21, alan c wrote:
> > I obviously missed out on something
> > what does\o/mean please?
> 
> little person waving two hands in the air in celebration
> you can also wave with one hand like o/ or \oor if things go wrong
> you can do this /o\

Isn't that someone doing a handstand?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-20 Thread Simon Greenwood 
On 20 February 2011 10:30, alan c  wrote:

> On 19/02/11 06:05, Hassan "Haz" Williamson wrote:
>
>> @Mac, Thanks for that. Interesting read. Personally I'm going where the
>> developers are, I have a feeling that Oracle might try to swing things to
>> their favour and might close down some aspects of OOo - either that or try
>> to incorporate their own proprietary database system in somehow. I could
>> be
>> wrong, but that's just my opinion of it.
>>
>> @Liam, You could have saved yourself some heart ache by just installing
>> LibreOffice with the PPA. If I recall the PPA supports 10.04, 10.10 and
>> 11.04. I'll list the commands for it below for you:
>>
>>
>> *sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa*
>> *
>> *
>> *sudo apt-get update*
>> *
>> *
>> *sudo apt-get install libreoffice*
>>
>>
>> If your using gnome, then also run this for it to integrate better:
>>
>>
>> *sudo apt-get install libreoffice-gnome*
>>
>>
>> For KDE:
>>
>> *sudo apt-get install libreoffice-kde*
>>
>>
>> There is an article somewhere on omgubuntu.co.uk about this. I'll link it
>> at
>> the end for reference. This will install LibreOffice just like any other
>> application you'd find in the ubuntu repo's. So you'll get your menu item,
>> document file type associations, etc... Enjoy :).
>>
>> I really don't understand why the one on the LibreOffice website is so
>> complicated to try and get it to work. It might scare some people away
>> from
>> using it, which would be a shame. I'm sure they'll make it easier as time
>> passes though.
>>
>> Hope this helps you out, and hopefully others who many be having trouble
>> getting LibreOffice to work.
>>
>
> Is there anything significant preventing LO being put into the Ubuntu
> Software Centre? When LO gets into Ubuntu as it will, in 11.04, I will
> certainly use it, but my tech experience level is not really sufficient to
> effortlessly manage PPAs and the possible complication of the existing Open
> Office too.
>
> If LO was to be available in the Ubuntu Software Centre then I would use it
> now.
> --
>

I would guess that it's Canonical policy: the office suite is seen as a core
component in Desktop and as such is maintained.OO and LO probably don't
exactly coexist in Linux so having one or the other is a practical
consideration as well as a policy decision.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast returning

2011-02-20 Thread Alan Bell 

On 20/02/11 10:21, alan c wrote:

I obviously missed out on something
what does\o/mean please?

little person waving two hands in the air in celebration
you can also wave with one hand like o/ or \oor if things go wrong 
you can do this /o\


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast returning

2011-02-20 Thread Josh Holland 
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:21:27AM +, alan c wrote:
> what does\o/mean please?

It's a little man with his arms in the air because he is so happy about
the return of UUPC.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-20 Thread alan c 

On 19/02/11 06:05, Hassan "Haz" Williamson wrote:

@Mac, Thanks for that. Interesting read. Personally I'm going where the
developers are, I have a feeling that Oracle might try to swing things to
their favour and might close down some aspects of OOo - either that or try
to incorporate their own proprietary database system in somehow. I could be
wrong, but that's just my opinion of it.

@Liam, You could have saved yourself some heart ache by just installing
LibreOffice with the PPA. If I recall the PPA supports 10.04, 10.10 and
11.04. I'll list the commands for it below for you:


*sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa*
*
*
*sudo apt-get update*
*
*
*sudo apt-get install libreoffice*


If your using gnome, then also run this for it to integrate better:


*sudo apt-get install libreoffice-gnome*


For KDE:

*sudo apt-get install libreoffice-kde*


There is an article somewhere on omgubuntu.co.uk about this. I'll link it at
the end for reference. This will install LibreOffice just like any other
application you'd find in the ubuntu repo's. So you'll get your menu item,
document file type associations, etc... Enjoy :).

I really don't understand why the one on the LibreOffice website is so
complicated to try and get it to work. It might scare some people away from
using it, which would be a shame. I'm sure they'll make it easier as time
passes though.

Hope this helps you out, and hopefully others who many be having trouble
getting LibreOffice to work.


Is there anything significant preventing LO being put into the Ubuntu 
Software Centre? When LO gets into Ubuntu as it will, in 11.04, I will 
certainly use it, but my tech experience level is not really 
sufficient to effortlessly manage PPAs and the possible complication 
of the existing Open Office too.


If LO was to be available in the Ubuntu Software Centre then I would 
use it now.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast returning

2011-02-20 Thread alan c 

On 19/02/11 20:52, Matthew Wild wrote:

On 19 February 2011 20:32, Alan Pope  wrote:

 Hi all,

 As you can see by the website, we're returning with Season 4 of the
 Ubuntu UK Podcast in 10 days.



Podcast \o/


I obviously missed out on something
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