Re: [ubuntu-uk] Good News For Acer Aspire One 521 Users
I downloaded the beta2 version a couple of days back to try on VirtualBox, but wasn't able to install Unity because of hardware deficiencies. (This appears to be a well known issue and someone's published a workaround on the Ubuntu forum.) I ran it as a live disc on the main desktop, but obviously, Unity wasn't running at its maximum speed so I wasn't able to achieve the expected drool factor, and I've rated it as just Not Bad but Prefer Gnome 2/XFCE. I also downloaded Fedora 15 beta with its Gnome 3 desktop - same issue with VirtualBox, but when I ran that as a live disc, I was surprised to see the similarity with Unity, although in my opinion, G3 is rather prettier and there seems more to play around with. Luddite mode I'm used to Gnome 2. I like it, I'm happy with it, and I don't see the need to change. /Luddite mode On 29/04/11 22:43, Nigel Verity wrote: Hi I bought an Acer Aspire One 521 a few months ago to use as a media player. Unfortunately, with each of the last 4 versions of Ubuntu installed, the headphone jack was completely dead. The same situation applied with numerous other Linux distros. The only one to show any improvement was PCLinuxOS which would, at least, send audio to the headphone jack, but not shut off the internal speakers. Very annoying. For the benefit of anybody experiencing the same symptoms with the AO521, I am pleased to report that the problem has been fixed in 11.04. The headphone jack works and the internal speakers shut off when expected. The other niggling problem of having no battery monitor remains. Maybe 24 hours is not giving it a fair chance, but I can't stand the new user interface. It strikes me as unintuitive and a retrograde step in productivity. I've installed XFCE instead which is great. It would be interesting to get the views of other users who had never seen the new GUI until yesterday. Regards Nige -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Borked my Mac installing Ubuntu 11.04, now blackscreens beeps on restart then takes exactly 4 attempts to boot
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 01:55 +0100, doug livesey wrote: Then, I used the live CD gparted to clear the 1st drive (the SSD), create the swap space, create the Ubuntu partition, and launch the install, where I used what I had just created on the SSD. The install completed okay (but with no option to select where the GRUB installer went, like some tutorials tell you to look out for). First, the advice around seems to be not to create any swap-space at all when using an ssd and to use the non-journalling ext2 format to increase limited ssd life. (feel free to disagree). In order to do this, you have to use the advanced install options (the bottom option) and these do ask you where you want to put grub. As part of the install, if you put grub on the ssd, it ought to run 'update-grub' and find both os's and let you have them OK. My view is you would do best to have grub on the same drive as the Ubuntu installation. Not sure about mac, but you have serious problems with Windows if you don't do that. Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Borked my Mac installing Ubuntu 11.04, now blackscreens beeps on restart then takes exactly 4 attempts to boot
On 30 April 2011 08:10, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote: First, the advice around seems to be not to create any swap-space at all when using an ssd and to use the non-journalling ext2 format to increase limited ssd life. (feel free to disagree). I disagree. SSD write lifetime is longer than you think. http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html We assume perfect wear leveling which means we need to fill the disk 2 million times to get to the write endurance limit. 2 million (write endurance) x 64G (capacity) divided by 80M bytes / sec gives the endurance limited life in seconds. That's a meaningless number - which needs to be divided by seconds in an hour, hours in a day etc etc to give... The end result is 51 years! Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Good News For Acer Aspire One 521 Users
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 04:43 +0100, alan c wrote: I was testing a version of 11.04 recently and a non techie friend who I help with Ubuntu saw it in passing and exclaimed 'Oh! I like that! When can I have it?' I was, and still am, trying to get used to Unity and its superficial lack of a menu structure, but even after a short period of use I have to say that I think it is growing on me. I think it will be a winner. I agree. I found Natty a bit off-putting at first, but as you persevere and discover things like the menu you get by right-clicking the apps icon on the sidebar, it gets better! I'm looking forward to installing it on my Netbook - the liveCD looks really good on there. I'm waiting till June to do that, as I'm going to be short of time to do a lot of work if I get problems. Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Good News For Acer Aspire One 521 Users
On 30/04/11 07:20, Trevor Hyde wrote: I downloaded the beta2 version a couple of days back to try on VirtualBox, but wasn't able to install Unity because of hardware deficiencies. (This appears to be a well known issue and someone's published a workaround on the Ubuntu forum.) I ran it as a live disc on the main desktop, but obviously, Unity wasn't running at its maximum speed so I wasn't able to achieve the expected drool factor, and I've rated it as just Not Bad but Prefer Gnome 2/XFCE. I also downloaded Fedora 15 beta with its Gnome 3 desktop - same issue with VirtualBox, but when I ran that as a live disc, I was surprised to see the similarity with Unity, although in my opinion, G3 is rather prettier and there seems more to play around with. Luddite mode I'm used to Gnome 2. I like it, I'm happy with it, and I don't see the need to change. /Luddite mode Hi, I was wondering, I am having problems with installing Natty on my machine as well, can you show me the workaround on the Ubuntu forums? Would like to have a look. John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Good News For Acer Aspire One 521 Users
On 30 April 2011 07:20, Trevor Hyde trevorh...@gmail.com wrote: I downloaded the beta2 version a couple of days back to try on VirtualBox, but wasn't able to install Unity because of hardware deficiencies. (This appears to be a well known issue and someone's published a workaround on the Ubuntu forum.) For anyone else considering running Ubuntu 11.04 inside VirtualBox, see Alan Bell's blog post about it. http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/ Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Good News For Acer Aspire One 521 Users
On 30 April 2011 10:02, scoundrel50a scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was wondering, I am having problems with installing Natty on my machine as well, can you show me the workaround on the Ubuntu forums? Would like to have a look. I suspect the workarounds won't help your issue as he was installing inside VirtualBox, not on the bare metal. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Borked my Mac installing Ubuntu 11.04, now blackscreens beeps on restart then takes exactly 4 attemptsto boot
Hi, First off, forgive me if I make any assumptions or misconceptions, I don't own a mac. On the three attempts that fail to boot, does the POST display at all? If not, then a single long beep (on PC architecture) is a key indicator of a hardware fault. My advice would be to remove all internal hard drives, reseat any cards/modules (ram, gfx card etc.) Then boot. If that works, add the HD in and test, if that is reliably booting, then try the ssd, if that fails, take the HD out and try the ssd on its own. HTH, Bodsda Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: doug livesey biot...@gmail.com Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 01:55:04 To: British Ubuntu Talkubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Borked my Mac installing Ubuntu 11.04, now blackscreens beeps on restart then takes exactly 4 attempts to boot -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Borked my Mac installing Ubuntu 11.04, now blackscreens beeps on restart then takes exactly 4 attemptsto boot
On 30 April 2011 15:22, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: On the three attempts that fail to boot, does the POST display at all? If not, then a single long beep (on PC architecture) is a key indicator of a hardware fault. Macs don't have a BIOS/POST test in the same way a PC does. So the error indications are not the same. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Borked my Mac installing Ubuntu 11.04, now blackscreens beeps on restart then takes exactly 4 attempts to boot
On 30 April 2011 01:55, doug livesey biot...@gmail.com wrote: So guess who broke his Mac trying to install the latest Ubuntu? Every now then, I think I'm more of a geek than I really am, and try to do something to make myself feel hardcore, but that ends up just being plain humbling! There follows a cut paste from a post I left on the Ubuntu forums, but basically I've been stung by over-ambitious early-adopter's syndrome (which may or may not be a real term, I've been trying to fix my computer for the last 2 days straight can't remember how humans actually talk to each other). Anyway, in the hope that some local talent may see this know what's going wrong ... Hi -- I've tried to install 11.04 on my Macbook Pro (5,4) today. I had two drives in the machine, an SSD as my main drive, and an HD. I installed rEFIt before attempting to install Ubuntu. I moved my Snow Leopard install to the secondary HD made sure I could boot to it. Then, I used the live CD gparted to clear the 1st drive (the SSD), create the swap space, create the Ubuntu partition, and launch the install, where I used what I had just created on the SSD. The install completed okay (but with no option to select where the GRUB installer went, like some tutorials tell you to look out for). This seemed to go okay, so I went to restart at the end of the install, but the machine didn't come back up. Instead, the power came on I could hear the drives, but the screen stayed black, the battery light flashed a load of times really quickly (too quickly to count, but at least 10 times), and then the machine let out 1 long beep and stayed on the black screen. I forced it to power down tried again, and just got a black screen, the battery light shining steadily, and no beep. I forced it to power down again, and got the same, then again, and got the same, and then a 4th time, which actually allowed me to boot. And this has been the pattern since then. I shut down, and my first attempt to restart gets me the flashing light and the beep, with the black screen. I try 3 more times to power down and restart, and just get the black screen. Then, *every* time on the 4th time, I'm allowed to boot. The same routine will be gone through the next time I power down and try to restart. I've tried totally clearing the disk in gparted, restoring the OSX install from TimeMachine, everything I could think of, but all to no avail. Finally, thinking that maybe the OSX install I had safe on the secondary HD might still be okay (looking at it in gparted showed an EFI boot section everything), I opened up my MBP, swapped the drives around so that the HD is now the main drive, and the SSD the secondary, and renamed the drives so that the primary HD is now called 'Macintosh HD' and is first in the list of drives that appear when I manage to boot each 4th attempt. But, to my great disappointment, I still got exactly the same error. Can anyone offer any advice on how to: 1) Get my machine booting to a safe Snow Leopard install on the (now primary) HD? 2) Safely install Ubuntu on the (now secondary) SSD? Obviously the first is a top priority, as I need my machine in order to work! Then I can concentrate on moving my dev environment to Ubuntu, which I've been dying to do for ages. Thanks very much for any all assistance. Bed, now. I hate going to sleep defeated, but I've no idea what else to do. 'Night! Doug. PS -- apologies to any Geekuppers for the cross post. If you have a time machine backup I'd do the following. 1. Grab the OSX install CD and throw it into the drive 2. Using that CD flatten the OSX drive using the disk utility on the CD 3. Reinstall OSX 4. Attach time machine disk and restore from backup. Hope that helps. -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [LEEDS] Release Party Next Weekend (Alan Bell)
-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:13:13 +0100 From: Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] [LEEDS] Release Party Next Weekend Message-ID: banlktimznuaeuktqd2kpr+tqmxnnlfr...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Guys, Going to be having a release party next weekend (couldn't do anything this weekend as I have been busy) in Leeds, there will be fun, laughter, drinks and Natty! If anyone can suggest a good venue in or around Leeds then please feel free, also let me know if you can come so I know approx numbers (although anyone can drop in on the day!) :) Daniel Hi Daniel, I can't help with the venue but may attend, what time are you thinking? I work weekends but will try my best :) Best Regards Dave Hanson -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [LEEDS] Release Party Next Weekend
On 29 April 2011 16:13, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Guys, Going to be having a release party next weekend (couldn't do anything this weekend as I have been busy) in Leeds, there will be fun, laughter, drinks and Natty! If anyone can suggest a good venue in or around Leeds then please feel free, also let me know if you can come so I know approx numbers (although anyone can drop in on the day!) :) Get in touch with NTI at Old Broadcasting House on Woodhouse Lane, they should be happy to take you up or will know someone who can. I will hopefully have time to look in if you get something arranged. I'll post that you're looking on the Geekup list. Simon -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood My CV: http://bit.ly/sfg http://bit.ly/sfgreenwood_cv_new_cv Is this your sanderling? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [LEEDS] Release Party Next Weekend (Alan Bell)
Hiya Dave, Around the evening from about 17:00 onwards, not too late though as I will need to get the trains back to my home town. Daniel -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
