Re: [ubuntu-uk] from win32 to python?
Andres wrote: > So it seems that for linux users they would be better off using the > core fortran than using the gui on wine? It'd make sense to leave a choice, if the UI works under Wine, or near as dammit, it'd be nice to provide that as well as the CLI. You never know someone else might write you a gui :) -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] from win32 to python?
Thank you for your replies! The fortran program has no front end it's all done trhrough the command line. But he might have used some C you're probably right. I know that C and fortaran seem to get along well but that is the extent of it. The terminal stays open as a separate window from the GUI. So it seems that for linux users they would be better off using the core fortran than using the gui on wine? -- Sent from my Nokia N900 Please do not send me word documents plain txt or pdf are prefered. - Original message - > It sounds that you might be getting the programming language and GUI > interface confused: the core of the program is written in Fortran, and I > suspect (from what you've written) that GUI part of the program is > probably written in C/C++ with the GUI interface being the Win32 API. > > Either the GTK+ or QT toolkits would allow the program to be built for > Linux or Windows. However, I think that this would mean a total rewrite > of the GUI part of the program. Both toolkits work with Python, but if > he's already written the GUI program in C/C++ it might be easier to use > C/C++ again rather changing to Python (especially if he/she isn't that > familiar with Python). Also, I don't know how easy it is for get Python > code to call Fortran code. > > An alterative would be to use .Net for Windows and Mono for Linux. > > > -Original Message- > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 23:28:09 +0100 > From: andres > To: "ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com" > Subject: [ubuntu-uk] > Message-ID: <1308004089.1893.23.camel@andres-laptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hello, > > This is a question mainly for developers. I think. It's really a > curiosity of mine and I have little say in the result of the project. > > Someone I know is thinking of releasing his software. It's a program > that at it's core is written in Fortran but has the gui written in > win32. it has other open source programs attached to it as well. All > bundled up in a nice .exe installer. > > He has gone through a lot of trouble of learning win32 and actually > programming the whole GUI. But this at the end means that linux users > have to run the program through wine. Would you consider this a complete > disadvantage and a deal breaker if you would want to create a community > around it and it's worth thinking about "translating" the GUI to > something like python? Or other more cross-platform compatible > languages? (I don't know if it runs in Mac for instance). > > Or would this be a bit of reinventing the wheel? > > It seems to make little difference for an end user as I've seen wine > programs in the software centre. Or would it be incredibly more > efficient if it's a "native" linux program? > > Or would it be more of a question of knowing who your users are going to > be at the end of the day? > > -- > Andr?s envi? esto desde su netbook con UBUNTU: sistema operativo > gratuito, abierto y casi libre. ?Pruebalo! http://www.ubuntu-es.org/ > Por favor, no imprimas este correo. > > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libre Office and Thunderbird Addressbook
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 22:22 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > On 14/06/11 22:14, Colin Law wrote: > > On 14 June 2011 22:10, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > >> I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS! > >> Ubuntu 11.04 and Libre Office 3.3.2. > >> the Ubuntu version of Libre Office will STILL NOT USE the Thunderbird > >> addressbook as an address data source! > >> > >> WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU CANONICAL? > >> WHY CANNOT YOU IMPLEMENT THIS VERY SIMPLE FUNCTION? > >> Why do those of us who don't like Evolution have to remove the > >> Ubuntu-supplied Office suite (and this has been going on for YEARS) and > >> replace it with the suite downloaded directly from the suite site? > > Could you provide a link to the bug report please? > > > > Thanks > > > > Colin > > > It's not a bug, it's the way Canonical add the Office suite to Ubuntu. > It's been going on for years with Open Office and now they've done the > same with LO... > If you use Evolution then OO (or LO I presume, I uninstall Evolution > because I never use it) will use the Evolution Addressbook but not > anything else. > If you uninstall the Canonical-supplied Office suite and install direct > from OO ot LO then the TBird addressbook can be used as a data source. Have you tried to install the mozilla-libreoffice package after you install Thunderbird? Note that I don't use Thunderbird so don't know if it will fix your problem. Cheers, Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libre Office and Thunderbird Addressbook
On 14 June 2011 22:26, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > On 14/06/11 22:22, Avi wrote: >> >> Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: >>> >>> On 14/06/11 22:13, Avi wrote: Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU CANONICAL? > WHY CANNOT YOU IMPLEMENT THIS VERY SIMPLE FUNCTION? Why haven't you? You can append the patch to the bug report on Launchpad, though it might be nicer to send it straight to the LO guys. >>> It's nothing to do with LO - it's Canonical. >>> >> Really? Do you have the bug number? I can't find it on Launchpad and >> I'm intrigued as to the discussion here. >> > There is no bug number because it isn't a bug. It's the way Canonical > integrate Open office (and now LO) into Ubuntu. it's been done this way for > YEARS. That is a bug then. LibreOffice should be able to use the Thunderbird address book and it can't in Ubuntu (apparently) so that is a bug. Report it rather than complaining about it. Nothing will change unless it is reported. > If you uninstall the Canonical-supplied Office and install direct from the > OO website then TBird addressbook can be used as an address data source. > Why Canonical have to fiddle with it I don't know Well it is a bug in the Canonical fiddling in that case so report it. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libre Office and Thunderbird Addressbook
Avi wrote: > Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > > > It's not a bug, it's the way Canonical add the Office suite to > > Ubuntu. It's been going on for years with Open Office and now > > they've done the same with LO... > > If you use Evolution then OO (or LO I presume, I uninstall > > Evolution because I never use it) will use the Evolution > > Addressbook but not anything else. > > If you uninstall the Canonical-supplied Office suite and install > > direct from OO ot LO then the TBird addressbook can be used as a > > data source. > > > > That *is* a bug, but I can't find it filed anywhere. The Launchpad bug > reports is the place to file this - the Ubuntu LO packages are likely > to not be subscribed to this list. > > Aha! 93546: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/93546 A brief scan of the discussion infers the problem is in Mozilla's codebase, but it looks like it's not the simple fix you think it is. I am sure all involved would be glad to be proven otherwise, though. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libre Office and Thunderbird Addressbook
On 14/06/11 22:22, Avi wrote: Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 14/06/11 22:13, Avi wrote: Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU CANONICAL? WHY CANNOT YOU IMPLEMENT THIS VERY SIMPLE FUNCTION? Why haven't you? You can append the patch to the bug report on Launchpad, though it might be nicer to send it straight to the LO guys. It's nothing to do with LO - it's Canonical. Really? Do you have the bug number? I can't find it on Launchpad and I'm intrigued as to the discussion here. There is no bug number because it isn't a bug. It's the way Canonical integrate Open office (and now LO) into Ubuntu. it's been done this way for YEARS. If you uninstall the Canonical-supplied Office and install direct from the OO website then TBird addressbook can be used as an address data source. Why Canonical have to fiddle with it I don't know -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libre Office and Thunderbird Addressbook
Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > It's not a bug, it's the way Canonical add the Office suite to > Ubuntu. It's been going on for years with Open Office and now they've > done the same with LO... > If you use Evolution then OO (or LO I presume, I uninstall Evolution > because I never use it) will use the Evolution Addressbook but not > anything else. > If you uninstall the Canonical-supplied Office suite and install > direct from OO ot LO then the TBird addressbook can be used as a data > source. > That *is* a bug, but I can't find it filed anywhere. The Launchpad bug reports is the place to file this - the Ubuntu LO packages are likely to not be subscribed to this list. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libre Office and Thunderbird Addressbook
Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > On 14/06/11 22:13, Avi wrote: > > Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > > > >> WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU CANONICAL? > >> WHY CANNOT YOU IMPLEMENT THIS VERY SIMPLE FUNCTION? > > Why haven't you? You can append the patch to the bug report on > > Launchpad, though it might be nicer to send it straight to the LO > > guys. > > > It's nothing to do with LO - it's Canonical. > Really? Do you have the bug number? I can't find it on Launchpad and I'm intrigued as to the discussion here. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libre Office and Thunderbird Addressbook
On 14/06/11 22:14, Colin Law wrote: On 14 June 2011 22:10, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS! Ubuntu 11.04 and Libre Office 3.3.2. the Ubuntu version of Libre Office will STILL NOT USE the Thunderbird addressbook as an address data source! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU CANONICAL? WHY CANNOT YOU IMPLEMENT THIS VERY SIMPLE FUNCTION? Why do those of us who don't like Evolution have to remove the Ubuntu-supplied Office suite (and this has been going on for YEARS) and replace it with the suite downloaded directly from the suite site? Could you provide a link to the bug report please? Thanks Colin It's not a bug, it's the way Canonical add the Office suite to Ubuntu. It's been going on for years with Open Office and now they've done the same with LO... If you use Evolution then OO (or LO I presume, I uninstall Evolution because I never use it) will use the Evolution Addressbook but not anything else. If you uninstall the Canonical-supplied Office suite and install direct from OO ot LO then the TBird addressbook can be used as a data source. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libre Office and Thunderbird Addressbook
On 14/06/11 22:13, Avi wrote: Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU CANONICAL? WHY CANNOT YOU IMPLEMENT THIS VERY SIMPLE FUNCTION? Why haven't you? You can append the patch to the bug report on Launchpad, though it might be nicer to send it straight to the LO guys. It's nothing to do with LO - it's Canonical. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libre Office and Thunderbird Addressbook
On 14 June 2011 22:10, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS! > Ubuntu 11.04 and Libre Office 3.3.2. > the Ubuntu version of Libre Office will STILL NOT USE the Thunderbird > addressbook as an address data source! > > WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU CANONICAL? > WHY CANNOT YOU IMPLEMENT THIS VERY SIMPLE FUNCTION? > Why do those of us who don't like Evolution have to remove the > Ubuntu-supplied Office suite (and this has been going on for YEARS) and > replace it with the suite downloaded directly from the suite site? Could you provide a link to the bug report please? Thanks Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libre Office and Thunderbird Addressbook
Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU CANONICAL? > WHY CANNOT YOU IMPLEMENT THIS VERY SIMPLE FUNCTION? Why haven't you? You can append the patch to the bug report on Launchpad, though it might be nicer to send it straight to the LO guys. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Libre Office and Thunderbird Addressbook
I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS! Ubuntu 11.04 and Libre Office 3.3.2. the Ubuntu version of Libre Office will STILL NOT USE the Thunderbird addressbook as an address data source! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU CANONICAL? WHY CANNOT YOU IMPLEMENT THIS VERY SIMPLE FUNCTION? Why do those of us who don't like Evolution have to remove the Ubuntu-supplied Office suite (and this has been going on for YEARS) and replace it with the suite downloaded directly from the suite site? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Further Decluttering
Damn, if only I lived closer to London! Daniel On 13 June 2011 20:43, TT Mooney wrote: > Hi all -- > > I am getting rid of some surplus equipment from home, and rather than > fuss with Ebay, I thought perhaps someone on the list would be interested. > > Current techie toys littering the flat include: > > O2 Joggler (works, briefly used, still in box, replaced with Nook Color > Tablet for kitchen computing) £50 > > Powermat Wireless Charging Pad with 1 USB Charger (new in box, tradeshow > gift) Free > > Nokia N800 Tablet (no PSU, but it takes the typical Nokia Phone type. > Comes with a whopping 128 MB MiniSD) Free > > Sun Ultra 5 170 (complete but without OS or CD-ROM drive) Free > > Sun Sparcstation 5 110 (complete without OS but with CD-ROM drive and > spare MB) > > HP 715/100 XC (complete with AUI to 10bT, PS/2 to HP keyboard) > > Free items can be purchased for the price of the first round at any > decent hostelry in W1 or NW8 should the buyer like. Pick up is preferred > to shipping -- I will not ship free items. > > If you're interested, reply off-list. I would like to get rid of this > stuff in the next week. > > There are some other odds and ends around the office -- a Sony 20 inch > CRT (great screen, but heavy as sin) and the like as well. I will post a > full list when there is a chance. > > Kind regards, > > travis > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] On giving people Ubuntu to try.
On 13 June 2011 22:57, Phill Whiteside wrote: > hiyas, > Crikey... a 250MB usb hard drive? Please let me have some more details as > the lowest we can get Lubuntu down to as a full install is 2.7GB on Hard > Disk - I am sure JM would love to have a look at it. > Regards, > Phill. :) I am guessing he means 250*G*B rather than *M*. Martin - one possible idea for you: a £3 IDE-to-CD convertor from eBay and a 4G or 8GB CompactFlash card instead of a hard disk. Silent, low power, solid-state so shockproof, and probably doable for about £15 or so all in. -- Liam Proven • Info & profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] from win32 to python?
It sounds that you might be getting the programming language and GUI interface confused: the core of the program is written in Fortran, and I suspect (from what you've written) that GUI part of the program is probably written in C/C++ with the GUI interface being the Win32 API. Either the GTK+ or QT toolkits would allow the program to be built for Linux or Windows. However, I think that this would mean a total rewrite of the GUI part of the program. Both toolkits work with Python, but if he's already written the GUI program in C/C++ it might be easier to use C/C++ again rather changing to Python (especially if he/she isn't that familiar with Python). Also, I don't know how easy it is for get Python code to call Fortran code. An alterative would be to use .Net for Windows and Mono for Linux. -Original Message- Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 23:28:09 +0100 From: andres To: "ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com" Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Message-ID: <1308004089.1893.23.camel@andres-laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello, This is a question mainly for developers. I think. It's really a curiosity of mine and I have little say in the result of the project. Someone I know is thinking of releasing his software. It's a program that at it's core is written in Fortran but has the gui written in win32. it has other open source programs attached to it as well. All bundled up in a nice .exe installer. He has gone through a lot of trouble of learning win32 and actually programming the whole GUI. But this at the end means that linux users have to run the program through wine. Would you consider this a complete disadvantage and a deal breaker if you would want to create a community around it and it's worth thinking about "translating" the GUI to something like python? Or other more cross-platform compatible languages? (I don't know if it runs in Mac for instance). Or would this be a bit of reinventing the wheel? It seems to make little difference for an end user as I've seen wine programs in the software centre. Or would it be incredibly more efficient if it's a "native" linux program? Or would it be more of a question of knowing who your users are going to be at the end of the day? -- Andr?s envi? esto desde su netbook con UBUNTU: sistema operativo gratuito, abierto y casi libre. ?Pruebalo! http://www.ubuntu-es.org/ Por favor, no imprimas este correo. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] from win32 to python?
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 23:28:09 +0100 andres wrote: > Hello, > > This is a question mainly for developers. I think. It's really a > curiosity of mine and I have little say in the result of the project. > > Someone I know is thinking of releasing his software. It's a program > that at it's core is written in Fortran but has the gui written in > win32. it has other open source programs attached to it as well. All > bundled up in a nice .exe installer. > > He has gone through a lot of trouble of learning win32 and actually > programming the whole GUI. But this at the end means that linux users > have to run the program through wine. Would you consider this a complete > disadvantage and a deal breaker if you would want to create a community > around it and it's worth thinking about "translating" the GUI to > something like python? Or other more cross-platform compatible > languages? (I don't know if it runs in Mac for instance). > > Or would this be a bit of reinventing the wheel? > > It seems to make little difference for an end user as I've seen wine > programs in the software centre. Or would it be incredibly more > efficient if it's a "native" linux program? > > Or would it be more of a question of knowing who your users are going to > be at the end of the day? > As a user I avoid Wine as I don't find it very reliable and I'm never sure whether it's Wine or the program playing up when things go wrong. Both GTK and QT are cross platform so I would have thought that is the way to go. No idea how easy/hard it would to to convert to them or just how crossplatform they are though. -- Yorvyk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
