[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Community Week

[Alan Bell]

Hi all,

this week is the Ubuntu Community week, a series of online class 
sessions run over IRC and featuring from our LoCo:

Laura http://randall.executiv.es/ucw_oneiric_11
Me http://randall.executiv.es/ucw_oneiric_13
Popey http://randall.executiv.es/ucw_oneiric_15
Laura again http://randall.executiv.es/ucw_oneiric_18

full details of the timetable and how to join in are at:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCommunityWeek

yes, we are halfway through it already, but logs are available of 
sessions you may have missed.


Alan.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

[Avi]

Dino T. wrote:

> It would be both, for my CV and learning experience. I dont want to be
> investing time and money however on a course where it'd be worthless
> as a qualification.

I think you're going to hit an oft-encountered problem, in that there's
little intersection between the two.

LPI appears to be the 'standard' Linux qualification but it doesn't
require much real-world knowledge to pass. As is the nature of exams,
it's relatively easy to treat it as a brain-dump, rather than a test
of understanding. I gather Linux+ (the other main qualification) isn't
a lot different. Even being the standard qualification, it's not really
held in very high regard by the sorts of people you're looking to
manage you, but might be by the people doing the hiring - recruitment,
personell departments and agencies love initialisms.


The usual source for getting 'real' training is to hire a consultant,
really. UKUUG used to occasionally send me details of such courses,
where they'd hired a consultant and were selling tickets, but they've
stopped doing so since I stopped giving them money. 

The problem you're going to see is that for a lot of employers the
first measure of how good someone is is their experience. Linux being
both sorts of free, and community driven, means it's not hard to gain
experience without it necessarily being *paid* experience, you just
need to rent a server, stick a web page on it and not get hacked :)


If I were in your position, I'd look at doing a course that does some
proper training in Linux with a view to an LPI, and then getting an LPI
at the end of it. If you're looking for Linuxy admin work, though,
nobody is likely to hire you unless you're already running a server
of some sort.


The above is almost entirely based on me asking the same questinons
about a year ago, but then somebody gave me a job before I had a chance
to put any of it into practice :) Some of it might be different now.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

[Alan Lord (News)]

On 20/07/11 19:35, Dino T. wrote:

Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a
clue on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close that
is credible and good?



Try doing Linux From Scratch (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/) a few 
times manually - you will probably learn more than many courses will 
teach you and you won't be as tied a particular distro as might be the 
case if you did a RHEL or Ubuntu course for example.


(Interestingly Google threw up several ads to linux courses on the right 
hand side of their homepage - LFS is an educational project so that 
makes sense).


I'm sure there are good courses available but there is also a *huge* 
amount of educational and teach-yourself material available for free 
on-line.


Another good place to start?

TDLP http://tldp.org/


HTH

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

[Bill Cumming]

I'd love to find any course up here in scotland, got an ILA voucher (£200)
heading my way for training.

On Jul 20, 2011 7:48 PM, "Dino T."  wrote:
>
> It would be both, for my CV and learning experience. I dont want to be
investing time and money however on a course where it'd be worthless as a
qualification.
>
> I want to focus on desktop technical support and system maintenance.
>
> Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)
>
>
>
>
> On 20 July 2011 19:38, Avi  wrote:
>>
>> Dino T. wrote:
>>
>> > Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a
>> > clue on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close
>> > that is credible and good?
>>
>> What do you want to get out of it? Is this for your CV or as a genuine
>> learning experience? Are you wanting to focus particularly on some use
>> (desktop, server etc.)?
>>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

[Simon Redmond]

On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 19:35 +0100, Dino T. wrote:
> Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a
> clue on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close
> that is credible and good?
> 

The OU do a Linux course, the course code is T155 I believe... here a
link http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/course/t155.htm its not
cheap but then I think you get discount to take the CompTIA Linux+ exam
at the end of the course.

might be worth a look.

Simon


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

[Dino T.]

It would be both, for my CV and learning experience. I dont want to be
investing time and money however on a course where it'd be worthless as a
qualification.

I want to focus on desktop technical support and system maintenance.

*Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)*



On 20 July 2011 19:38, Avi  wrote:

> Dino T. wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a
> > clue on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close
> > that is credible and good?
>
> What do you want to get out of it? Is this for your CV or as a genuine
> learning experience? Are you wanting to focus particularly on some use
> (desktop, server etc.)?
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

[Dino T.]

Exactly, it's not the easiest thing to understand.

*Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)*





On 20 July 2011 19:39, Kris Douglas  wrote:

> I would also be interested in learning a little more about doing courses in
> Linux in the UK.
>
> I followed some links to do with the LPI but it was a bit confusing as to
> what exactly is the definite one to do. The Ubuntu website shows there are
> courses but the literature isn't the best.
>
> On 20 July 2011 19:35, Dino T.  wrote:
>
>>  Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a
>> clue on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close that is
>> credible and good?
>>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

[Kris Douglas]

I would also be interested in learning a little more about doing courses in
Linux in the UK.

I followed some links to do with the LPI but it was a bit confusing as to
what exactly is the definite one to do. The Ubuntu website shows there are
courses but the literature isn't the best.

On 20 July 2011 19:35, Dino T.  wrote:

> Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a clue
> on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close that is
> credible and good?
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

[Avi]

Dino T. wrote:

> Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a
> clue on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close
> that is credible and good?

What do you want to get out of it? Is this for your CV or as a genuine
learning experience? Are you wanting to focus particularly on some use
(desktop, server etc.)?

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[ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

[Dino T.]

Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a clue
on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close that is
credible and good?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 11.04 64bit and wired network issues.

[Daniel Case]

Hi Bob,

Thanks for letting us know. I looked at your email several times but
couldn't work out why you were having the problem as my card uses the same
driver.

Anyway, glad it's all sorted now, have a good day,
Daniel
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