[ubuntu-uk] Which magazine
I've just had a questionnaire from Which about their magazine and I took the opportunity to suggest they should do a proper evaluation of Ubuntu (and/or Mint) rather than their usual dismissal that it's only used by techies. Could we get a campaign amongst other Which members to force better reviews of FOSS? John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which magazine
On 4 October 2011 09:35, ** johnbrid...@yahoo.com wrote: I've just had a questionnaire from Which about their magazine and I took the opportunity to suggest they should do a proper evaluation of Ubuntu (and/or Mint) rather than their usual dismissal that it's only used by techies. Could we get a campaign amongst other Which members to force better reviews of FOSS? Good idea Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu .....
Hi there Ubuntu 11.10 is set for release later this month and is looking fantastic. The signs are that the following version, 12.04 LTS set for release next April is going to be even more wonderful. I'm writing to ask you to consider a review on click after next April's release. I'm writing six months before release date to give plenty of chance to consider this, and plan it into your schedule. Here's hoping I'd be more than happy to be of assistance. Kind regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which magazine
On 04/10/11 09:40, Colin Law wrote: On 4 October 2011 09:35, **johnbrid...@yahoo.com wrote: I've just had a questionnaire from Which about their magazine and I took the opportunity to suggest they should do a proper evaluation of Ubuntu (and/or Mint) rather than their usual dismissal that it's only used by techies. Could we get a campaign amongst other Which members to force better reviews of FOSS? Hi, Colin. I second that, but can we take this opportunity to call it FLOSS instead because this more accurately reflects what Ubuntu is about. Vive la Ubuntu Libre :-) UKUUG have also rebranded themselves under the FLOSS banner: http://www.flossuk.org/ Bye, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, University of Aberdeen, Rowett Institute of Nutrition and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK tel +44(0)1224 712751, fax +44(0)1224 716687, http://www.rowett.ac.uk mailto:a.tra...@abdn.ac.uk, http://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which magazine
On 04/10/11 10:26, Alan Pope wrote: On 4 October 2011 10:05, Tony Travisa.tra...@abdn.ac.uk wrote: I second that, but can we take this opportunity to call it FLOSS instead because this more accurately reflects what Ubuntu is about. FLOSS is (in my opinion) the worst of all the labels we give to this stuff we do. Open Source is good, but not quite right, Free Software has too many monetary overtones, and FLOSS just sounds like a dental campaign. Why don't we called it.. Ubuntu. UKUUG have also rebranded themselves under the FLOSS banner: http://www.flossuk.org/ I'm still staggered that they did that. Hi, Al. Well, I like it but you can't please all the people all the time :-) It's interesting to see non-Linux 'Ubuntu' products like Ubuntu Cola around at events like the Edinburgh Fringe, but 'Ubuntu' isn't an alternative to FOSS/FLOSS because 'Ubuntu' is about politics: http://ubuntu.org It's clear that our favourite Linux distro is part of this political agenda, but I believe that FOSS/FLOSS is broader than 'Ubuntu' in that it also reflects intellectual freedom as advocated by the FSF. I think it is particularly useful to stress the 'Libre' aspect of FLOSS, which is an explicit statement of intellectual freedom in addition to our software being 'freely' available for anyone to use. I agree with John's suggestion about better FOSS reviews. I just suggested FLOSS instead because this includes the 'Libre' aspect of 'Free' software. Bye, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, University of Aberdeen, Rowett Institute of Nutrition and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK tel +44(0)1224 712751, fax +44(0)1224 716687, http://www.rowett.ac.uk mailto:a.tra...@abdn.ac.uk, http://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu .....
On 04/10/11 10:05, Barry Drake wrote: Hi there Ubuntu 11.10 is set for release later this month and is looking fantastic. The signs are that the following version, 12.04 LTS set for release next April is going to be even more wonderful. I'm writing to ask you to consider a review on click after next April's release. I'm writing six months before release date to give plenty of chance to consider this, and plan it into your schedule. Here's hoping I'd be more than happy to be of assistance. Well done Barry! -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Certification [Free]
Does anyone know of a reputable *free* certification I can acquire to say I'm a proficient Ubuntu user, ideally server administration? I'm trying to build up some qualifications and I'm not prepared to pay the £1000+ for the one from the Ubuntu shop. Best Regards, Dave Hanson http://hansonforensics.co.uk *IMPORTANT NOTICE:* This email is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and email confirmation to the sender. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the sender does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu .....
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 10:05:11AM +0100, Barry Drake wrote: Hi there Ubuntu 11.10 is set for release later this month and is looking fantastic. The signs are that the following version, 12.04 LTS set for release next April is going to be even more wonderful. Thanks! I'm writing to ask you to consider a review on click after next April's release. I'm not sure what you mean here. What's a review on click? -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Certification [Free]
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 12:17 +0100, Dave Hanson wrote: Does anyone know of a reputable free certification I can acquire to say I'm a proficient Ubuntu user, ideally server administration? I'm trying to build up some qualifications and I'm not prepared to pay the £1000+ for the one from the Ubuntu shop. Best Regards, Dave Hanson IMPORTANT NOTICE: This email is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and email confirmation to the sender. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the sender does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Nope! Certification always costs, What you can do though is book at a pearson view center that is local to you and just take the exams, LPI 101 etc and the Ubuntu module cost about 80 quid plus per exam. The one on the shop is the full course plus exam and not just the exam. -- You make it, I'll break it! I love my job :) http://www.ubuntu.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu .....
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Colin Watson cjwat...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 10:05:11AM +0100, Barry Drake wrote: Hi there Ubuntu 11.10 is set for release later this month and is looking fantastic. The signs are that the following version, 12.04 LTS set for release next April is going to be even more wonderful. Thanks! I'm writing to ask you to consider a review on click after next April's release. I'm not sure what you mean here. What's a review on click? -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ TV show I think? Best Regards, Dave Hanson http://hansonforensics.co.uk/ *IMPORTANT NOTICE:* This email is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and email confirmation to the sender. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the sender does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Certification [Free]
Dave Hanson wrote: Does anyone know of a reputable *free* certification I can acquire to say I'm a proficient Ubuntu user, ideally server administration? Running your own servers is a reasonably good way to demonstrate proficiency, and (aside from the cost of the server) is free. I'm trying to build up some qualifications and I'm not prepared to pay the £1000+ for the one from the Ubuntu shop. If you're already proficient, you only need the exams, which are of the order of £100 IIRC (and maybe a £30 book). The Ubuntu course is just the LPI one with an extra exam; I'd imagine that most places that ascribe much importance to the Ubuntu course ascribe much the same to just the LPI bit. On an entirely unrelated note, your signature amused me. I've never seen a company both explain how insecure email is and assume it's secure in the same wall of signature. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Certification [Free]
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Avi Greenbury li...@avi.co wrote: Dave Hanson wrote: Does anyone know of a reputable *free* certification I can acquire to say I'm a proficient Ubuntu user, ideally server administration? Running your own servers is a reasonably good way to demonstrate proficiency, and (aside from the cost of the server) is free. I'm trying to build up some qualifications and I'm not prepared to pay the £1000+ for the one from the Ubuntu shop. If you're already proficient, you only need the exams, which are of the order of £100 IIRC (and maybe a £30 book). The Ubuntu course is just the LPI one with an extra exam; I'd imagine that most places that ascribe much importance to the Ubuntu course ascribe much the same to just the LPI bit. On an entirely unrelated note, your signature amused me. I've never seen a company both explain how insecure email is and assume it's secure in the same wall of signature. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Thanks for the advice Avi On an entirely unrelated note, your signature amused me. I've never seen a company both explain how insecure email is and assume it's secure in the same wall of signature. ^^ It doesn't? It's stating that the information maybe *confidential*. i.e. relating to legal proceedings, the insecure email notice acknowledges that during transit or storage the email contents could change and I'm not liable. -- Think forensics. Best Regards, Dave Hanson http://hansonforensics.co.uk/ *IMPORTANT NOTICE:* This email is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and email confirmation to the sender. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the sender does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu .....
On 04/10/11 12:21, Colin Watson wrote: I'm writing to ask you to consider a review on click after next April's release. I'm not sure what you mean here. What's a review on click? Click is a short IT programme on BBC news channel every weekend. From time to time, they do mention Ubuntu - in a quite favourable light. I think 12.04 would be an ideal time for them to look a little more closely at it. Maybe others might want to write to them in a similar vein? Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Certification [Free]
On 4 October 2011 12:35, Dave Hanson d...@hansonforensics.co.uk wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Avi Greenbury li...@avi.co wrote: Dave Hanson wrote: Does anyone know of a reputable *free* certification I can acquire to say I'm a proficient Ubuntu user, ideally server administration? Running your own servers is a reasonably good way to demonstrate proficiency, and (aside from the cost of the server) is free. I'm trying to build up some qualifications and I'm not prepared to pay the £1000+ for the one from the Ubuntu shop. If you're already proficient, you only need the exams, which are of the order of £100 IIRC (and maybe a £30 book). The Ubuntu course is just the LPI one with an extra exam; I'd imagine that most places that ascribe much importance to the Ubuntu course ascribe much the same to just the LPI bit. On an entirely unrelated note, your signature amused me. I've never seen a company both explain how insecure email is and assume it's secure in the same wall of signature. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Thanks for the advice Avi On an entirely unrelated note, your signature amused me. I've never seen a company both explain how insecure email is and assume it's secure in the same wall of signature. ^^ It doesn't? It's stating that the information maybe confidential. i.e. relating to legal proceedings, the insecure email notice acknowledges that during transit or storage the email contents could change and I'm not liable. -- Think forensics. So just who is the intended recipient who is allowed to access, disclose, copy, distribute or rely on the contents? All the rest of us could easily commit a criminal offence by so doing, apparently. Colin Best Regards, Dave Hanson IMPORTANT NOTICE: This email is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and email confirmation to the sender. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the sender does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- gplus.to/clanlaw -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Certification [Free]
* * 2011/10/4 Juan J. reid...@usebox.net On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 12:45 +0100, Colin Law wrote: [...] Thanks for the advice Avi On an entirely unrelated note, your signature amused me. I've never seen a company both explain how insecure email is and assume it's secure in the same wall of signature. ^^ It doesn't? It's stating that the information maybe confidential. i.e. relating to legal proceedings, the insecure email notice acknowledges that during transit or storage the email contents could change and I'm not liable. -- Think forensics. So just who is the intended recipient who is allowed to access, disclose, copy, distribute or rely on the contents? All the rest of us could easily commit a criminal offence by so doing, apparently. The amusing part is that instead of signing the mails with any of the available standards (S/MIME, PGP/GPG; any other else?), there's a notice stating that the message (including the notice) may have been modified by a third party :) Cheers, Juan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Okay, Okay. I give in. It could be clearer as to what I mean. I'll re-write it. Best Regards, Dave Hanson http://hansonforensics.co.uk/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Certification [Free]
On 4 October 2011 12:55, Dave Hanson d...@hansonforensics.co.uk wrote: Okay, Okay. I give in. It could be clearer as to what I mean. I'll re-write it. I think the most significant point is that, whatever the validity of such a signature on an email sent to a person or organisation, when sent to a mailing list that will be archived and accessible to anyone then any such sig is completely useless and just wastes space in all our mailboxes and uses up our bandwidth. You could even save us a bit more space by sending in plain text rather than html. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] synaptic (packaging system) messed up (continuued)
Hi I have managed to extract the files I think are needed for a brother printer as the printer system is saying there is no driver and or failed to execute a filter. (depends on which program displays the error) so i extracted the following from the .deb and copied to where the installer had intended to put them as in /usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfcj615w/lpd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 663956 2011-10-04 10:40 brmfcj615wfilter -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2050 2011-10-04 10:40 filtermfcj615w -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2221 2011-10-04 10:40 psconvertij2 As it says that it failed to execute a filter do the above permissions look right, they do have the execute flag set, perhaps there is some other problem i have over looked, should the files be owned by another user. I still need to fix synaptic as until that is fixed i have no way of installing anything else. Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] synaptic (packaging system) messed up (continuued)
On 04/10/11 17:36, paul sutton wrote: I have managed to extract the files I think are needed for a brother printer as the printer system is saying there is no driver and or failed to execute a filter. (depends on which program displays the error) I don't have that printer, but I have a Brother DCP 135 C, and the procedure for yours is probably similar. You need to install a cups-wrapper as well as a driver, and with my printer there are several other steps such as creating directories and symlinks as well as editing one of the .conf files. Brother are very good at providing a full list of things you have to do. It might be worth spending a bit more time on their web-site. I ended up writing a shell script to do all the jobs whenever I install a new version. Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] synaptic (packaging system) messed up (continuued)
On 04/10/11 17:53, Barry Drake wrote: On 04/10/11 17:36, paul sutton wrote: I have managed to extract the files I think are needed for a brother printer as the printer system is saying there is no driver and or failed to execute a filter. (depends on which program displays the error) I don't have that printer, but I have a Brother DCP 135 C, and the procedure for yours is probably similar. You need to install a cups-wrapper as well as a driver, and with my printer there are several other steps such as creating directories and symlinks as well as editing one of the .conf files. Brother are very good at providing a full list of things you have to do. It might be worth spending a bit more time on their web-site. I ended up writing a shell script to do all the jobs whenever I install a new version. Regards,Barry. Thanks You are right regarding having to create directories, this is where using dpkg or making sure you can view what gdebi is doing, I will dig around on their site. I got my previous printer working (310CN) fine, Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
