Re: [ubuntu-uk] Microsoft Surface Release, Will there be something similar from Ubuntu?

2012-06-29 Thread David King



On 25/06/12 16:20, kpb wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:17:03 +0100
Alan Pope  wrote:


http://design.canonical.com/2011/11/ubuntu-phone-tablet-and-tv-discussion-opened/

Feel free to let us know what you think an Ubuntu tablet should look
like, features and so on. We'd be interested to know.


Education market (secondary/college):

1) vga socket and ability to retain touch calibration while mirroring to old 
projectors 1024/768 and even 800 by 600 that refuse to die. You just saved us a 
fortune on proprietary interactive whiteboards. I'd buy one alone for that.

2) Stylus friendly. By stylus friendly I mean ability to get fine control with 
a stylus for drawing and painting but with a finger touch based UI.

3) Flash (yes, I know old tech, but that is education) and Java JVM available. 
BBC iPlayer solution that is guaranteed to work in the future whatever the Beeb 
perpetrate.

4) USB sockets aplenty for attaching keyboards&c

5) a Canonical branded note taking app with handwriting recognition that could 
recognise mathematical notation and shell out to LaTeX. Oh, and the Moon.

I would imagine it will have to be widescreen (have you noticed how most iPad 
users use them portrait?)

Well, you asked. Best of luck with it, that would be an ace thing to see.

cheers



Great ideas. I would add the following:

A way to add external storage through a USB socket, so a few USB sockets 
would be good.


It seems that the Unity interface is designed for tablet use, so maybe 
Canonical does have putting Ubuntu onto tablets as a long-term goal?


It would need to be powerful enough and have a large enough screen to be 
usable with existing Linux apps. There is a KDE-based tablet coming out 
soon, but it looks too limited to be of use, underpowered, and just a 
800x600 screen (not much better than a smartphone).


I have a stylus for touchscreens which works okay on my smartphone and 
BlackBerry PlayBook, but not always with enough precision, e.g. for 
drawing. So an Ubuntu tablet would have to have good precision, as 
stated above.


I guess that such a device would cost quite a bit considering the 
hardware choices. But if it were marketed properly, as a quality device, 
running a quality OS that has the lowest probability of getting viruses, 
and able to run desktop apps, it might be quite successful. I wonder if 
Mark Shuttleworth would be willing to subsidize the cost so it could 
still be cheaper than an iPad?



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Starting an IT workshop

2012-06-29 Thread alan c

On 28/06/12 22:49, Andres wrote:

I have just been to a local neighbourhood community [0] meeting and
thought ann IT workshop would help out. The group already does workshops
relating to gardening, bicycle maintenance and such.

My question is: how do I propose it in your experience?
What I have for the moment is an old laptop,
I would like to order a bunch ubuntu CDs if I can to hand out
I know my way around computers but I'm not a professional but I think I
have a lot of patience explaining IT stuff to children and adults.
I like talking to people about using libreoffice instead of MS office,
ubuntu instead of windows,...
The community can offer an enclosed place "The little House" or the
library. Both can take about 10 people.

Would it be best to start with something simple? or look alliance with
some other community that already exists and are looking for a place to
do some sort of mini workshop. This is what they did with the bicycle
workshop.

So I was asked to source some info to take back to the meeting for next
month. Can someone point me in the right direction?

[0] http://www.hamunitedgroup.org.uk


I run a couple of Libre Computing groups in my nearby clubs (U3A as it 
happens, aimed at older  and retired people, like me)(some members 
can barely walk). I chose the name carefully because I am not 
motivated to continue helping with the everlasting Windows problems 
people have (note).

http://www.bracknellu3a.org.uk/ComputerLibre.html
http://www.wokinghamu3a.org.uk/Computing_Libre.html

Web Manager typos and  web page design style aside, you will see that 
they are strongly Ubuntu centric, although retain flexibility. The 
clubs have a thousand members or more and I quickly found up to a 
dozen people interested in each group (1%). Some only wanted (ubuntu) 
dual boot  install, but are not into attending the meetings - ok with 
me - others are still using Windows but are keen enough to attend most 
meets. Some are ex IT admin variously or serious tech types. None 
would  even consider a LUG, I suggest  leave any such thoughts for a 
later date. Not even forums in most cases. It is surprising how much 
people like to gather and chat face to face. Just listen and help.


Initially I did live cd demonstrations and talked. I only use Ubuntu, 
no Windows for many years now, but I understand its siren pull. One 
person used a live usb (with help to create one) for many months then 
installed dual boot. And continued even when some Windows related 
security sw gave us serious trouble. Ended up using clonezilla by 
themselves to image a good PC state to make reinstall of  whatever 
much easier. Impressive, but just needed a bit of chat and confidence.


Topics are wide, but discussions are group introduced  - with a little 
prompting, it works well. I see my basic role as Ubuntu (FLOSS) support.


Internet access will be important.

Any more Q's?

Note: Time was, I helped 1000's of novice users with Windows by 
creating and running the age concern berkshire Computer Centre (Part 
of the then UKOnline facility)--

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[ubuntu-uk] Books

2012-06-29 Thread Ted Wager
I have several ubuntu/linux books to dispose of must be collected from 
sk22 area..

Regards
 Ted Wager

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Starting an IT workshop

2012-06-29 Thread john
Aim to keep it very simple Andres,

Remember the recent demo of the Windows Pad. When experienced
journalists couldn't find the switch off button. They immediately
started to 'freak-out.' This will also be the case with the 'plug and
play' generation. That purchased devices that plugged but seldom played.

Main thing is to get the group feeling confident enough to start trying
things out themselves. A simple plan could be : 1. How the live disc
works. 2. A lot of time on using the interface. 3. How to use
LibreOffice Writer.4. Intro to Firefox. 5. Adding DuckDuckGo to
Firefox.(with a brief intro to privacy and security). 6.How to write and
send an e.mail.This will be more than enough.Do not introduce other
distros.Stress the community spirit of Ubuntu.

Keeping things simple allows you to identify the different abilities
within the group. So you can get more capable users help others.
Unfortunately Skype has never worked out of the box for me on Ubuntu or
Debian.

Most importantly ask the group what they would like to do with a
computer. Then go about doing it : probably writing a letter. Using your
own plan as a back up. Learn from the group rather than 'push' stuff at
them (not easy).

This is so important for the future of Ubuntu.

John







On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 22:49 +0100, Andres wrote:
> I have just been to a local neighbourhood community [0] meeting and
> thought ann IT workshop would help out. The group already does
> workshops relating to gardening, bicycle maintenance and such. 
> 
> My question is: how do I propose it in your experience? 
> What I have for the moment is an old laptop, 
> I would like to order a bunch ubuntu CDs if I can to hand out
> I know my way around computers but I'm not a professional but I think
> I have a lot of patience explaining IT stuff to children and adults.
> I like talking to people about using libreoffice instead of MS office,
> ubuntu instead of windows,...
> The community can offer an enclosed place "The little House" or the
> library. Both can take about 10 people. 
> 
> Would it be best to start with something simple? or look alliance with
> some other community that already exists and are looking for a place
> to do some sort of mini workshop. This is what they did with the
> bicycle workshop. 
> 
> So I was asked to source some info to take back to the meeting for
> next month. Can someone point me in the right direction?
> 
> [0] http://www.hamunitedgroup.org.uk



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