Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the Vaio S series

2012-07-02 Thread doug livesey
Very interesting, cheers for that.
I'm pretty sure my next machine is *not* going to be a mac, but still want
something really performant  cool-looking. :)
(I'll be spending a lot of time, there, after all.)
The S series was about the best spec non-apple laptop that I found in my
noodling around -- although if there were any recommendations, here, I'd be
grateful to hear 'em.
Cheers,
   Doug.

On 1 July 2012 23:50, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote:



 On 1 July 2012 23:17, doug livesey biot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi -- has anyone got Ubuntu up  running on a Sony Vaio S series?
 I've read a little bit that suggests there may be difficulties with the
 graphics drivers, which switch between two modes.
 Just wondered, is all -- I was fantasising about a new machine  playing
 with the online configurers, and the Vaio S series looks bloody lovely! :)


 There are open source Intel HD 4000 drivers according to Phoronix, and for
 another £100 you can have an Nvidia card that is supported through
 Additional Drivers. You could always go to a Sony store with a Live USB ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the Vaio S series

2012-07-02 Thread Anton Kanishchev
Hi
Please note that I am not saying that you will have an ugly experience like
I had. I also chose the laptop because of its ips display and performance
and all the other great things that it has. I would just double check with
them along the lines of - I have looked through the forums and found that
a lot of s series are very noisy for a laptop... (this is true)... could
you please confirm that of I get a laptop like that you will refund it as
it is not working normally,. Also make sure that they give you proof
((written if possible) that they will refund an overheating laptop and that
they will refund a cto model. That way you are covering yourself in the
first place against most things that can happen. I don't know, maybe the
new ivy bridge ones are better than mine was. Please note that it wasn't
just loud, it was unbearable to be next to. If you play your cards right
and mention that there is no bs of cto models being non refundable (in
terms and conditions) before you buy they are unlikely to try to play that
trick on you. But as the previous person said, Take ubuntu into the shop
and see if it works. The fingerprint reader doesn't work by the way, and
maybe the slice battery may not work, but not sure about that one.
In terms of alternatives (not a mac) you may wish to have a look at hp, and
possibly lenovo and Asus. Less known but you my find something you like. If
you are buying it for the ips panel be warned : it won't beat a decent
((600 pound) Desktop panel at all and there is a grand total of 5 laptops
with ips panels in the world at the moment, so your choice may be limited.
Hope this helped
On Jul 2, 2012 10:05 AM, doug livesey biot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very interesting, cheers for that.
 I'm pretty sure my next machine is *not* going to be a mac, but still want
 something really performant  cool-looking. :)
 (I'll be spending a lot of time, there, after all.)
 The S series was about the best spec non-apple laptop that I found in my
 noodling around -- although if there were any recommendations, here, I'd be
 grateful to hear 'em.
 Cheers,
Doug.

 On 1 July 2012 23:50, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote:



 On 1 July 2012 23:17, doug livesey biot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi -- has anyone got Ubuntu up  running on a Sony Vaio S series?
 I've read a little bit that suggests there may be difficulties with the
 graphics drivers, which switch between two modes.
 Just wondered, is all -- I was fantasising about a new machine  playing
 with the online configurers, and the Vaio S series looks bloody lovely! :)


 There are open source Intel HD 4000 drivers according to Phoronix, and
 for another £100 you can have an Nvidia card that is supported through
 Additional Drivers. You could always go to a Sony store with a Live USB ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the Vaio S series

2012-07-02 Thread Simon Greenwood
On Jul 2, 2012 9:05 AM, doug livesey biot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very interesting, cheers for that.
 I'm pretty sure my next machine is *not* going to be a mac, but still want
 something really performant  cool-looking. :)
 (I'll be spending a lot of time, there, after all.)
 The S series was about the best spec non-apple laptop that I found in my
 noodling around -- although if there were any recommendations, here, I'd be
 grateful to hear 'em.
 Cheers,
Doug.

 On 1 July 2012 23:50, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote:



 On 1 July 2012 23:17, doug livesey biot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi -- has anyone got Ubuntu up  running on a Sony Vaio S series?
 I've read a little bit that suggests there may be difficulties with the
 graphics drivers, which switch between two modes.
 Just wondered, is all -- I was fantasising about a new machine  playing
 with the online configurers, and the Vaio S series looks bloody lovely! :)


 There are open source Intel HD 4000 drivers according to Phoronix, and
 for another £100 you can have an Nvidia card that is supported through
 Additional Drivers. You could always go to a Sony store with a Live USB ;)


As I've related before, I got a System 76 machine which are pretty good
value before the delivery from the US and customs costs. They're sold in
this country under the Clevo brand - pcspecialist.co.uk sell them, and they
are very configurable. Not exactly Ultrabooks but decent machines and will
support Ubuntu as is, possibly with the System76 drivers, although I
recently upgraded mine from 11.10 to 12.04 and it seemed to be fine without
them.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the Vaio S series

2012-07-02 Thread Barry Titterton
On Mon, 2012-07-02 at 09:20 +0100, Anton Kanishchev wrote:
 If you play your cards right and mention that there is no bs of cto
 models being non refundable (in terms and conditions) before you buy
 they are unlikely to try to play that trick on you.

Hi Anton,

I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure that distance selling laws in the
UK give you the same type of consumer protection as if you bought it
over the counter: If the object is not of merchantable quality i.e.
broken or does not meet the advertised specification, you have to reject
it in writing. You can then send it back for a full refund and the
original seller must also refund your postal costs. I did this recently
with a laptop battery which tests showed was only half the capacity that
the seller was claiming.

Cheers,

Barry T



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the Vaio S series

2012-07-02 Thread Tony Pursell
On 2 July 2012 13:10, Barry Titterton barry.titter...@mail.adsl4less.comwrote:

 On Mon, 2012-07-02 at 09:20 +0100, Anton Kanishchev wrote:
  If you play your cards right and mention that there is no bs of cto
  models being non refundable (in terms and conditions) before you buy
  they are unlikely to try to play that trick on you.

 Hi Anton,

 I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure that distance selling laws in the
 UK give you the same type of consumer protection as if you bought it
 over the counter: If the object is not of merchantable quality i.e.
 broken or does not meet the advertised specification, you have to reject
 it in writing. You can then send it back for a full refund and the
 original seller must also refund your postal costs. I did this recently
 with a laptop battery which tests showed was only half the capacity that
 the seller was claiming.

 Cheers,

 Barry T


 It's all here, if you need to assert your (UK) statutory rights

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/consumer_e.htm

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[ubuntu-uk] Replacing Linux Mint 13 with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-02 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
If I want to replace Linux Mint 13 with Ubuntu 12.04, will it just be a 
case of installing over the top, and if so will that affect my Home 
directory at all?
In other words if I do this will my Home directory stay intact or do I 
need to back it up then restore after installation of Ubuntu?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Replacing Linux Mint 13 with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-02 Thread Rob Beard

On 02/07/12 21:48, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
If I want to replace Linux Mint 13 with Ubuntu 12.04, will it just be 
a case of installing over the top, and if so will that affect my Home 
directory at all?
In other words if I do this will my Home directory stay intact or do I 
need to back it up then restore after installation of Ubuntu?


I gather that Mint has it's own customisations, so I guess it depends if 
the installer wipes everything other than everything in /home.


If in doubt, boot from a live CD/DVD and backup your home directory 
somewhere.  It's better to have a backup that you can copy back over if 
it all goes wrong. :-)


Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Replacing Linux Mint 13 with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-02 Thread Daniel Case
Is your /home directory on another partition or the same as the Mint
system? Either way, take a backup somewhere to be sure nothing happens
(I've had my power go out in the middle of an install before... it
happens!)

If your /home is separate, it should be safe, if not... Ubuntu will
probably wipe it.

On 2 July 2012 22:13, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:
 On 02/07/12 21:48, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

 If I want to replace Linux Mint 13 with Ubuntu 12.04, will it just be a
 case of installing over the top, and if so will that affect my Home
 directory at all?
 In other words if I do this will my Home directory stay intact or do I
 need to back it up then restore after installation of Ubuntu?

 I gather that Mint has it's own customisations, so I guess it depends if the
 installer wipes everything other than everything in /home.

 If in doubt, boot from a live CD/DVD and backup your home directory
 somewhere.  It's better to have a backup that you can copy back over if it
 all goes wrong. :-)

 Rob



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