Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film

2012-08-23 Thread Andres Muniz 
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> 
> > 
> > Kind of defeats then object of running Ubuntu, if you have to install
> > windows doesnt it..is it something that might happen in the
> > future, or is it not going to happen...
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> It's down to the hosts though, Lovefilm and Netflix, I know on one of
> the sites ( Lovefilm i believe ) it was one of the most requested
> features last year to bring it to XBMC on linux but I think the
> response was not at this time.
> 
> Its the main reason why I use neither of the services at the moment as
> I solely use *nix on my media centres and thus can't use there
> services.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 

this might be silly, but maybe installing a web browser through wine? And 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film

2012-08-23 Thread bumaw 
To install Ubuntu and XBMC Media Center 

http://mirrors.xbmc.org/releases/XBMCbuntu/xbmcbuntu-11.0.iso

http://xbmc.org/download/

Than it is back to netflix with a quick overlook on how the install process of 
that will go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyF0Xp3lXCo



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film

2012-08-23 Thread Alan Pope 

On 23/08/12 11:46, Gareth France wrote:

I
also know there are people who don't use Linux because they can't use them.



I have Linux on all my computers, and yet I know I have at least 4 
devices which can view NetFlix. All the while that it's possible to use 
NetFlix on Wii, Xbox, PS3, iOS, Android etc there's less need for it on 
the Linux desktop. Be nice if they did, but companies generally don't do 
"nice" things, they do things which are financially viable and 
profitable. The number of people who have Linux desktops who _don't_ 
have any other device which can use NetFlix is probably not that huge.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film

2012-08-23 Thread Dave Morley 
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On 23/08/12 11:49, James Morrissey wrote:
> While its certainly true that stuff is increasingly available on 
> Linux, it looks like Netflix might still be some way away
> 
> This is from February: 
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/netflix-no-plans-to-support-linux
>
>  j
> 
> On 23 August 2012 11:46, Gareth France 
> wrote:
>> On 23/08/12 11:39, Andy Partington wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 
 Kind of defeats then object of running Ubuntu, if you have to
 install windows doesnt it..is it something that might
 happen in the future, or is it not going to happen...
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's down to the hosts though, Lovefilm and Netflix, I know on
>>> one of the sites ( Lovefilm i believe ) it was one of the most
>>> requested features last year to bring it to XBMC on linux but I
>>> think the response was not at this time.
>>> 
>>> Its the main reason why I use neither of the services at the
>>> moment as I solely use *nix on my media centres and thus can't
>>> use there services.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>> In my opinion we've seen a massive shift in how Linux is
>> perceived since I started using it in 2006. When I first
>> installed Feisty nothing worked, a week of banging my head
>> against the screen might bring me sound and webcam, just look at
>> it now. We've seen the recent work with games, the humble bundle,
>> steam and carmageddon's new release being native to us too. I'd
>> say it's only a matter of time before these services have to cave
>> and come over, which will be a big win for us, as Andy says there
>> are people who don't use them because they use Linux. I also know
>> there are people who don't use Linux because they can't use
>> them.
>> 
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You could always try the youtube streaming, I know it's not the
monthly subscription service.  But in Ubuntu if you goto the video
lens and type in the movie you are after many will show up with a 48hr
rental from youtube, I've not tried it myself. But I'm assuming it
just unlocks access and streams as normal.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film

2012-08-23 Thread Alan Pope 

On 23/08/12 11:45, Andy Partington wrote:

- We currently provide the LOVEFiLM Video on Demand service on various
models of Samsung and Sony TV and Blu-Ray players
Why would I want to go and replace my brand new HD TV jsut so I could
stream movies from pre selected outlets? This is a waste of my money,
adds senseless waste and extremely short sighted.



People replace their HD TV with "Smart TV" for a number of reasons, not 
just to get that one app. Putting NetFlix, Youtube etc onboard is a 
'value-add' for the manufacturer.


I have an HDTV in my lounge and will likely replace it when an Ubuntu TV 
comes out because mine is 'only' 720p and I'd quite like a 1080p one, 
plus mine is plasma (power hungry) and large and ugly. So it's not just 
about whether it has netflix or not which influences the buying decision.



- We are looking to expand the number of devices in the future, but
only for devices or platforms we have a direct commercial relationship
with

This was two + years ago.

http://developer.lovefilm.com/forum/read/82486/1



So no new players on the market in those 2 years, makes sense. There's 
Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft with their consoles and a wealth of TV and 
set-top-box manufacturers, but not many new ones. Google Chrome OS is 
probably the newest along with a few smaller far-east upcoming TV 
manufacturers.


They one day maybe there will be Ubuntu TV with commercial arrangements 
with NetFlix bringing it to our platform?



http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=80342

Loads of posts all over about it, and I think some people have had a
bit of success in getting somethings working but until it's official
or at least stable I'm not going to pay for it.



Agreed. Me neither.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film

2012-08-23 Thread James Morrissey 
While its certainly true that stuff is increasingly available on
Linux, it looks like Netflix might still be some way away

This is from February:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/netflix-no-plans-to-support-linux

j

On 23 August 2012 11:46, Gareth France  wrote:
> On 23/08/12 11:39, Andy Partington wrote:
>>
>> 
>>>
>>> Kind of defeats then object of running Ubuntu, if you have to install
>>> windows doesnt it..is it something that might happen in the future,
>>> or
>>> is it not going to happen...
>>>
>> 
>>
>> It's down to the hosts though, Lovefilm and Netflix, I know on one of
>> the sites ( Lovefilm i believe ) it was one of the most requested
>> features last year to bring it to XBMC on linux but I think the
>> response was not at this time.
>>
>> Its the main reason why I use neither of the services at the moment as
>> I solely use *nix on my media centres and thus can't use there
>> services.
>>
>> Andy
>>
> In my opinion we've seen a massive shift in how Linux is perceived since I
> started using it in 2006. When I first installed Feisty nothing worked, a
> week of banging my head against the screen might bring me sound and webcam,
> just look at it now. We've seen the recent work with games, the humble
> bundle, steam and carmageddon's new release being native to us too. I'd say
> it's only a matter of time before these services have to cave and come over,
> which will be a big win for us, as Andy says there are people who don't use
> them because they use Linux. I also know there are people who don't use
> Linux because they can't use them.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film

2012-08-23 Thread Gareth France 

On 23/08/12 11:39, Andy Partington wrote:



Kind of defeats then object of running Ubuntu, if you have to install
windows doesnt it..is it something that might happen in the future, or
is it not going to happen...




It's down to the hosts though, Lovefilm and Netflix, I know on one of
the sites ( Lovefilm i believe ) it was one of the most requested
features last year to bring it to XBMC on linux but I think the
response was not at this time.

Its the main reason why I use neither of the services at the moment as
I solely use *nix on my media centres and thus can't use there
services.

Andy

In my opinion we've seen a massive shift in how Linux is perceived since 
I started using it in 2006. When I first installed Feisty nothing 
worked, a week of banging my head against the screen might bring me 
sound and webcam, just look at it now. We've seen the recent work with 
games, the humble bundle, steam and carmageddon's new release being 
native to us too. I'd say it's only a matter of time before these 
services have to cave and come over, which will be a big win for us, as 
Andy says there are people who don't use them because they use Linux. I 
also know there are people who don't use Linux because they can't use them.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film

2012-08-23 Thread Andy Partington 
On 23 August 2012 11:39, Andy Partington  wrote:
> 
>>
>> Kind of defeats then object of running Ubuntu, if you have to install
>> windows doesnt it..is it something that might happen in the future, or
>> is it not going to happen...
>>
>
> 
>
> It's down to the hosts though, Lovefilm and Netflix, I know on one of
> the sites ( Lovefilm i believe ) it was one of the most requested
> features last year to bring it to XBMC on linux but I think the
> response was not at this time.
>
> Its the main reason why I use neither of the services at the moment as
> I solely use *nix on my media centres and thus can't use there
> services.
>
> Andy

This is the reply from one of the Lovefilm Developers ?

- We currently provide the LOVEFiLM Video on Demand service on various
models of Samsung and Sony TV and Blu-Ray players
Why would I want to go and replace my brand new HD TV jsut so I could
stream movies from pre selected outlets? This is a waste of my money,
adds senseless waste and extremely short sighted.

- We are looking to expand the number of devices in the future, but
only for devices or platforms we have a direct commercial relationship
with

This was two + years ago.

http://developer.lovefilm.com/forum/read/82486/1

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=80342

Loads of posts all over about it, and I think some people have had a
bit of success in getting somethings working but until it's official
or at least stable I'm not going to pay for it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film

2012-08-23 Thread Andy Partington 

>
> Kind of defeats then object of running Ubuntu, if you have to install
> windows doesnt it..is it something that might happen in the future, or
> is it not going to happen...
>



It's down to the hosts though, Lovefilm and Netflix, I know on one of
the sites ( Lovefilm i believe ) it was one of the most requested
features last year to bring it to XBMC on linux but I think the
response was not at this time.

Its the main reason why I use neither of the services at the moment as
I solely use *nix on my media centres and thus can't use there
services.

Andy

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film

2012-08-23 Thread scoundrel50a 

On 23/08/12 11:22, Alan Pope wrote:

On 23/08/12 11:16, scoundrel50a wrote:

Is there any way I can get it to work on Ubuntu at all?



No.

Or "yes" if you install Windows in a virtual machine and watch via 
that. Not ideal, but about the only option.


Cheers,


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windows doesnt it..is it something that might happen in the future, 
or is it not going to happen...


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film

2012-08-23 Thread Alan Pope 

On 23/08/12 11:21, paul sutton wrote:

Is chrome OS Linux based,  if it is then there should not be any reason
why they can't make it work on other Linux based systems.



Not true. Chrome OS is a proprietary operating system based in part on 
Linux and GNU tools. They add in bits to enable things like NetFlix 
which we don't have on other Linux distros. You might be able to hack 
the bits out of Chrome OS to make it work, good luck.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film

2012-08-23 Thread Alan Pope 

On 23/08/12 11:16, scoundrel50a wrote:

Is there any way I can get it to work on Ubuntu at all?



No.

Or "yes" if you install Windows in a virtual machine and watch via that. 
Not ideal, but about the only option.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film

2012-08-23 Thread paul sutton 
On 23/08/12 11:16, scoundrel50a wrote:
> Does anybody know if these are going to be available to play on
> Ubuntu? I've tried both but it wont play.it gives this reason for
> netflix not to run on Ubuntu
>
>
>   Instant Watching System Compatibility
>
>
>   Complete System Requirements
>
> To watch instantly, you'll need a computer that meets the following
> minimum requirements:
>
>   * Windows
>   o Windows Vista or Windows 7
>   o Internet Explorer 8 or higher; or Firefox 12 or higher; or the
> latest version of Chrome
>   o 1.2 GHz processor
>   o 512 MB RAM
>   * Mac
>   o An Intel-based Mac with OS 10.4.11 or later
>   o Safari 4 or higher; or Firefox 12 or higher; or the latest
> version of Chrome
>   o 1 GB RAM
>   * Chrome OS
>   o A Google Chromebook or Chromebox running Chrome OS 20 or higher
>
> Watch instantly home page > 
>
> I havent bothered getting the compatibility message for Love Film, I
> think that has something to do with Silverlight not being installed
>
> Is there any way I can get it to work on Ubuntu at all?
>
>

Not sure i think its also drm issue,  is there a site somewhere to
campaign for this to be made available on Ubuntu.?

Is chrome OS Linux based,  if it is then there should not be any reason
why they can't make it work on other Linux based systems.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film

2012-08-23 Thread scoundrel50a 

On 23/08/12 11:16, scoundrel50a wrote:
Does anybody know if these are going to be available to play on 
Ubuntu? I've tried both but it wont play.it gives this reason for 
netflix not to run on Ubuntu



  Instant Watching System Compatibility


  Complete System Requirements

To watch instantly, you'll need a computer that meets the following 
minimum requirements:


  * Windows
  o Windows Vista or Windows 7
  o Internet Explorer 8 or higher; or Firefox 12 or higher; or the
latest version of Chrome
  o 1.2 GHz processor
  o 512 MB RAM
  * Mac
  o An Intel-based Mac with OS 10.4.11 or later
  o Safari 4 or higher; or Firefox 12 or higher; or the latest
version of Chrome
  o 1 GB RAM
  * Chrome OS
  o A Google Chromebook or Chromebox running Chrome OS 20 or higher

Watch instantly home page > 

I havent bothered getting the compatibility message for Love Film, I 
think that has something to do with Silverlight not being installed


Is there any way I can get it to work on Ubuntu at all?


I just tried running Love Film, I couldnt get the whole message but it 
said something about me running a Silverlight 4 program and then 
mentioned Moonlight, but the message went before I could read it all.
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[ubuntu-uk] Netflix and Love Film

2012-08-23 Thread scoundrel50a 
Does anybody know if these are going to be available to play on Ubuntu? 
I've tried both but it wont play.it gives this reason for netflix 
not to run on Ubuntu



 Instant Watching System Compatibility


 Complete System Requirements

To watch instantly, you'll need a computer that meets the following 
minimum requirements:


 * Windows
 o Windows Vista or Windows 7
 o Internet Explorer 8 or higher; or Firefox 12 or higher; or the
   latest version of Chrome
 o 1.2 GHz processor
 o 512 MB RAM
 * Mac
 o An Intel-based Mac with OS 10.4.11 or later
 o Safari 4 or higher; or Firefox 12 or higher; or the latest
   version of Chrome
 o 1 GB RAM
 * Chrome OS
 o A Google Chromebook or Chromebox running Chrome OS 20 or higher

Watch instantly home page > 

I havent bothered getting the compatibility message for Love Film, I 
think that has something to do with Silverlight not being installed


Is there any way I can get it to work on Ubuntu at all?
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