Re: [ubuntu-uk] 1000 commands
On 06/11/13 20:23, Alan Jenkins wrote: There is no problem with keeping a lengthy history per se, just sometimes those commands are often variations on the same thing in which case you may be better off creating scripts and aliases to save yourself time and effort. Always seek quicker and easier ways to do things as it makes your life easier and means you can spend the saved time working on other cool things or having fun. Just as a follow up as I don;t think I actually noticed a reply explaining where the limit is configured... nano ~/.bashrc # for setting history length see HISTSIZE and HISTFILESIZE in bash(1) HISTSIZE=1000 HISTFILESIZE=2000 Cheers Al -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Printing a photo album without SAAS
Hello, I was thinking of doing a photo album and then having it printed at my local reprographics shop. All of it avoiding SAAS and using free libre open source software (floss). How would you go about it? Use something like digikam in combination with scribus? Regards, Andres -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi
On 06/11/13 22:26, Andres wrote: I recently heard more about beagle bone in FLOSS weekly. Doesn't beagle bone support ubuntu for a number of years now? Similar price, better hardware and a bit more open source? yes, that is a good platform too. What makes the pi so special? I thought it was the educational aspect of it. If it is for server, why not beagle bone? it is that bit cheaper, more of them out there, more people doing interesting projects with them. -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail. -- Libertus Solutions http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi
On 06/11/13 22:19, Dan Fish wrote: I think another aspect that should not be ignored is the potential roadmap for such arm devices. Admittedly I'm not aware of the Raspberry Pi's future direction, but in general more and more such arm devices seem to be in the offing. The raspberry pi itself has captured a stunningly large market share and surely Ubuntu should be trying to get a distro out at the start of the project, rather than being latecomers to Raspberry Pi V2. I don't expect a revision of the Pi that changes the Broadcom chip or anything else in any significant way. It doesn't need to be faster for what it is, and so many people have made cases and mounting things for it and expect the GPIO pins to be exactly where they are etc. I think like the Arduino it is something that doesn't really need an upgrade, being stable is more important, so you can replace half a classroom's worth of them in a few years and expect it to not be different to the other half. Unity performance notwithstanding, ubuntu server has a lot of potential on such a device (and IMHO is server is the jewel in the ubuntu crown) Regards Dan Disclaimer - ubuntu server is in the roadmap for the NHS spine v2 ( http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/10/nhs_drops_oracle_for_riak/) <- sorry for the El Reg link, but it's a brief and pretty accurate summary of future plans -- Libertus Solutions http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi
I recently heard more about beagle bone in FLOSS weekly. Doesn't beagle bone support ubuntu for a number of years now? Similar price, better hardware and a bit more open source? What makes the pi so special? I thought it was the educational aspect of it. If it is for server, why not beagle bone? -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi
I think another aspect that should not be ignored is the potential roadmap for such arm devices. Admittedly I'm not aware of the Raspberry Pi's future direction, but in general more and more such arm devices seem to be in the offing. The raspberry pi itself has captured a stunningly large market share and surely Ubuntu should be trying to get a distro out at the start of the project, rather than being latecomers to Raspberry Pi V2. Unity performance notwithstanding, ubuntu server has a lot of potential on such a device (and IMHO is server is the jewel in the ubuntu crown) Regards Dan Disclaimer - ubuntu server is in the roadmap for the NHS spine v2 ( http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/10/nhs_drops_oracle_for_riak/) <- sorry for the El Reg link, but it's a brief and pretty accurate summary of future plans On 06/11/13 21:52, Alan Bell wrote: from the pitch . . . "Rasbian is a great operating platform for it, the LXDE desktop is fine, the Wayland demo was brilliant and loads of cool projects are happening based on the Pi. We still want Ubuntu on it though. We are using it in embedded projects, it is also turning up in things like the OpenERP Point of Sale kit, situations where it doesn't need a responsive user interface (or a user interface at all). It would be great to know that all the libraries we are using on it are the same versions we are using on other computers that are running Ubuntu. " Basically when writing code on my laptop to deploy on the pi I want it to be the same environment. Now I could run Debian Wheezy on my laptop of course, but I am not going to do that. I am running Ubuntu on my laptop and I want to run Ubuntu on the Pi. Seeing Ubuntu Desktop with Mir and Unity 8 would be kind of sweet, but the project isn't a failure if that doesn't work out - and the Unity desktop might well not run well on the Pi, we are well below the minimum recommended specification. It will be fun to try, but I don't want to set expectations too high. Having Ubuntu server as an expectation is probably deliverable, going above and beyond that would be a bonus. Alan. On 06/11/13 21:14, Nigel Verity wrote: Alan I'm all for maximising the choice of OS that can be run on a Pi, but your Indigogo pitch doesn't make clear what advantages Ubuntu server with no desktop will bring, compared to the existing Debian derivative which already provides LXDE. The pitch also gives the impression that if it does eventually prove possible to get Unity running on top of "Pibuntu" then the performance is not going to be up to much. Please don't take this as pouring cold water on your plans, more a pointer for enhancing the FAQs. Regards Nige -- Libertus Solutions http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi
from the pitch . . . "Rasbian is a great operating platform for it, the LXDE desktop is fine, the Wayland demo was brilliant and loads of cool projects are happening based on the Pi. We still want Ubuntu on it though. We are using it in embedded projects, it is also turning up in things like the OpenERP Point of Sale kit, situations where it doesn't need a responsive user interface (or a user interface at all). It would be great to know that all the libraries we are using on it are the same versions we are using on other computers that are running Ubuntu. " Basically when writing code on my laptop to deploy on the pi I want it to be the same environment. Now I could run Debian Wheezy on my laptop of course, but I am not going to do that. I am running Ubuntu on my laptop and I want to run Ubuntu on the Pi. Seeing Ubuntu Desktop with Mir and Unity 8 would be kind of sweet, but the project isn't a failure if that doesn't work out - and the Unity desktop might well not run well on the Pi, we are well below the minimum recommended specification. It will be fun to try, but I don't want to set expectations too high. Having Ubuntu server as an expectation is probably deliverable, going above and beyond that would be a bonus. Alan. On 06/11/13 21:14, Nigel Verity wrote: Alan I'm all for maximising the choice of OS that can be run on a Pi, but your Indigogo pitch doesn't make clear what advantages Ubuntu server with no desktop will bring, compared to the existing Debian derivative which already provides LXDE. The pitch also gives the impression that if it does eventually prove possible to get Unity running on top of "Pibuntu" then the performance is not going to be up to much. Please don't take this as pouring cold water on your plans, more a pointer for enhancing the FAQs. Regards Nige -- Libertus Solutions http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi
Alan I'm all for maximising the choice of OS that can be run on a Pi, but your Indigogo pitch doesn't make clear what advantages Ubuntu server with no desktop will bring, compared to the existing Debian derivative which already provides LXDE. The pitch also gives the impression that if it does eventually prove possible to get Unity running on top of "Pibuntu" then the performance is not going to be up to much. Please don't take this as pouring cold water on your plans, more a pointer for enhancing the FAQs. Regards Nige -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi
On 06/11/13 20:50, Barry Drake wrote: On 06/11/13 20:12, Alan Bell wrote: I have been keen on the idea of the Raspberry Pi running Ubuntu for some time, and finally decided to get together with some folk and do something about it. So we are doing a crowd funding indiegogo thing to raise money to build a cluster of Pi devices that will be tasked with building all the packages that make up Ubuntu. You can read more about it, including some of the backstory about why the Pi didn't run Ubuntu from the start at the project page here Well done Alan. Just what I've been waiting for. I've contributed, and will offer help such as I can give. I'm not much of a coder these days, but might be able to help in other ways. Regards,Barry Drake. wonderful, thanks for your support! Alan -- Libertus Solutions http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi
On 06/11/13 20:12, Alan Bell wrote: I have been keen on the idea of the Raspberry Pi running Ubuntu for some time, and finally decided to get together with some folk and do something about it. So we are doing a crowd funding indiegogo thing to raise money to build a cluster of Pi devices that will be tasked with building all the packages that make up Ubuntu. You can read more about it, including some of the backstory about why the Pi didn't run Ubuntu from the start at the project page here Well done Alan. Just what I've been waiting for. I've contributed, and will offer help such as I can give. I'm not much of a coder these days, but might be able to help in other ways. Regards,Barry Drake. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 1000 commands
There is no problem with keeping a lengthy history per se, just sometimes those commands are often variations on the same thing in which case you may be better off creating scripts and aliases to save yourself time and effort. Always seek quicker and easier ways to do things as it makes your life easier and means you can spend the saved time working on other cool things or having fun. On 6 Nov 2013, at 20:16, Avi Greenbury wrote: > Alan Jenkins wrote: >> Shell scripts and aliases are the way to go for common commands. What on >> earth are you using more than a 1000 commands in your history for? I >> recommend making yourself aliases and scripts for your most used commands >> which you should be able to discern from your history file. > > I expect my shell to do things that make life easier for me, which > includes keeping all the commands I run relatively frequently in its > history rather than making me specifically configure it so. What's the > issue with keeping a lengthy history? > > -- > Avi > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 1000 commands
Alan Jenkins wrote: > Shell scripts and aliases are the way to go for common commands. What on > earth are you using more than a 1000 commands in your history for? I > recommend making yourself aliases and scripts for your most used commands > which you should be able to discern from your history file. I expect my shell to do things that make life easier for me, which includes keeping all the commands I run relatively frequently in its history rather than making me specifically configure it so. What's the issue with keeping a lengthy history? -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi
Hi all, I have been keen on the idea of the Raspberry Pi running Ubuntu for some time, and finally decided to get together with some folk and do something about it. So we are doing a crowd funding indiegogo thing to raise money to build a cluster of Pi devices that will be tasked with building all the packages that make up Ubuntu. You can read more about it, including some of the backstory about why the Pi didn't run Ubuntu from the start at the project page here http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-raspberry-pi-build-cluster-for-ubuntu/x/5206923 We would welcome contributions, discussion, or general advice :) Alan. -- I work at http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting Windows 8.1 woth Ubuntu 13.10
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2013 14:04, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: > On 6 November 2013 12:27, Gordon Burgess-Parker > wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 06/11/2013 12:20, Dave Morley wrote: >> >>> >>> However you could do better diagnosis by logging into the live >>> desktop session and see for example what drives are visible >>> from 13.10 etc :) >>> >>> >>> >>> >> This is were it gets odd. On Windows 8, 13.04 could see all the >> drives but not mount them. 13.10 could see all the drives and >> mount them. After upgrade to 8.1 both versions see all the >> drives, but neither can now mount them. > > > if your windows system is set to hibernate instead of shutdown when > you click the poweroff button then ubuntu won't be able to mount > the windows partition because windows retains a lock while > hibernated. > > > > Hi, I need to update - I had a duff iso to usb conversion of 13.10. I re-did it and now 13.10 sees the Windows drives and mounts them. But the error that the installer can't detect any OS is still there... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSenPBAAoJEBd10Bedj4uXFFsH+waHZyZk4l3HqtJ9VXgs/gwh bDL6+TskbtvTI2nDAYjUe9rhehE8maW2UnodTp6swMHyp6AnBIsVaeIns7MQ35LD 5ZEh8NfFlZs5VCWXd7avXBuo/Nsfnsgj5Yn9Hm2anlGaQiydSoXfkhegWfcHBrNf rs8EWN9qObmvrna3lCbjRe+56p6JtjL6bz2Ds62tz9HASrxlBgBhmuhuS6HehnRv rpXfC5WVotKJ6HDExQj9KqZif5i0UWtBdi6i91k7yh6I3AS/fyZdch/rsZFoKC95 Yg/KHWuNTgiN23BizF3m6PtKLuGGbKJW2MEQ4kUe557kDjZsvpSeyYyX6Ckq15g= =+2SD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting Windows 8.1 woth Ubuntu 13.10
On 6 November 2013 12:27, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/11/2013 12:20, Dave Morley wrote: > > > > > However you could do better diagnosis by logging into the live > > desktop session and see for example what drives are visible from > > 13.10 etc :) > > > > > > > > > This is were it gets odd. > On Windows 8, 13.04 could see all the drives but not mount them. 13.10 > could see all the drives and mount them. > After upgrade to 8.1 both versions see all the drives, but neither can > now mount them. if your windows system is set to hibernate instead of shutdown when you click the poweroff button then ubuntu won't be able to mount the windows partition because windows retains a lock while hibernated. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting Windows 8.1 woth Ubuntu 13.10
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2013 12:20, Dave Morley wrote: > > However you could do better diagnosis by logging into the live > desktop session and see for example what drives are visible from > 13.10 etc :) > > > > This is were it gets odd. On Windows 8, 13.04 could see all the drives but not mount them. 13.10 could see all the drives and mount them. After upgrade to 8.1 both versions see all the drives, but neither can now mount them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSejW1AAoJEBd10Bedj4uX6bYIAI56z4hJTHiEY5yTuSe7fqAH z2na40Tw4Iq9lmp8+nomRK/x58nzgJg1n0reCJqe0zqJs9ualevs1NqOA9S0fiUl 94+MxOmnLUjfEScSMDGo40/ha+Aspyw/vb+oM+HWRzRxl503S5KU8QzMgW7eyR31 7YQJdxhmEeC8TRZeD1F1ww9Vup86LHlmDUTwQel3AifHQbrtW6w1uDXrG4NJWd0Y ypXGZhwHwKUBhGONELXwZBli3kbicn2gemhPC0Z9tAtvxhfd4xC6evWGnmRkJkS9 N+bKIiS1H1emOo4HeiLakJOBwUj5YR/5uUrwSDT6/zv1Dfg24Kh8UJMNeWxIxVk= =8uNG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting Windows 8.1 woth Ubuntu 13.10
On 06/11/13 12:16, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > On 06/11/2013 12:10, Colin Law wrote: >> On 6 November 2013 11:53, Gordon Burgess-Parker >> wrote: >>> Hi! Having problems with this. Machine is Lenovo U410 with UEFI >>> and Intel Rapid Start. Installing 13.04 works fine - sees the >>> Windows OS as per normal and allows installing into the prepared >>> free space. If I try to install 13.10, it doesn't detect Windows >>> 8.1 at all. I'm reluctant to proceed manually as I'm not sure >>> what will happen because of this "non-detection". Has anyone >>> experienced this, and is there a way round? > >> Are you trying the 64 bit version of 13.10? If not then try that. >> If it worked with 13.04 (which I guess was 64 bit) then 13.10 >> should be ok. Of course you could just upgrade your 13.04 to 13.10 >> rather than re-install. > >> Colin > > > Yes I am using the 64 bit version - it's only the 64 bit versions that > have support for UEFI as far as I know. > I thought about upgrading from 13.04, but was interested as to why > 13.10 doesn't detect the Windows OS > > Gordon > Gordon does it detect the Ubuntu partition? If so I would image that the Ubuntu side of things is only going to be installed against that part. However you could do better diagnosis by logging into the live desktop session and see for example what drives are visible from 13.10 etc :) -- You make it, I'll break it! I love my job :) http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.canonical.com signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting Windows 8.1 woth Ubuntu 13.10
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2013 12:10, Colin Law wrote: > On 6 November 2013 11:53, Gordon Burgess-Parker > wrote: >> Hi! Having problems with this. Machine is Lenovo U410 with UEFI >> and Intel Rapid Start. Installing 13.04 works fine - sees the >> Windows OS as per normal and allows installing into the prepared >> free space. If I try to install 13.10, it doesn't detect Windows >> 8.1 at all. I'm reluctant to proceed manually as I'm not sure >> what will happen because of this "non-detection". Has anyone >> experienced this, and is there a way round? > > Are you trying the 64 bit version of 13.10? If not then try that. > If it worked with 13.04 (which I guess was 64 bit) then 13.10 > should be ok. Of course you could just upgrade your 13.04 to 13.10 > rather than re-install. > > Colin > Yes I am using the 64 bit version - it's only the 64 bit versions that have support for UEFI as far as I know. I thought about upgrading from 13.04, but was interested as to why 13.10 doesn't detect the Windows OS Gordon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSejMUAAoJEBd10Bedj4uXchQH/1vJ4udF2kYYoJYlAGBIj7m4 /+gJtG6+Xm5AxaH3z22swwYahSsnRvbMIH8mAp+mziyVxcMO7hoaxxoo8uv0quEZ 7jaq9YXO2zNvaEb3Zbn4Fpdv7xijPgBeAk/3JZQ70tnkJ2WmQMHOe7MDSFrj6Rfc t0ukZjjrAqitbcQD2rjukiydvaMBsQG3jn8THO2y/9Jk7O2pCL9Vh/9HPIxh/oer 2pTmaXRnHcVFZJz8FGe5pitwaZqnxbbyE0/E3RHOHevzmqITnkMISXFdTyS4VM73 vgDg6cdRyAuxwp34L5iAdTtDZrwGZHVmmNLKo2j9s6roujgf+fQJUltycGVVvhw= =/B5u -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting Windows 8.1 woth Ubuntu 13.10
On 6 November 2013 11:53, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > Hi! > Having problems with this. > Machine is Lenovo U410 with UEFI and Intel Rapid Start. > Installing 13.04 works fine - sees the Windows OS as per normal and > allows installing into the prepared free space. > If I try to install 13.10, it doesn't detect Windows 8.1 at all. > I'm reluctant to proceed manually as I'm not sure what will happen > because of this "non-detection". > Has anyone experienced this, and is there a way round? Are you trying the 64 bit version of 13.10? If not then try that. If it worked with 13.04 (which I guess was 64 bit) then 13.10 should be ok. Of course you could just upgrade your 13.04 to 13.10 rather than re-install. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Dual booting Windows 8.1 woth Ubuntu 13.10
Hi! Having problems with this. Machine is Lenovo U410 with UEFI and Intel Rapid Start. Installing 13.04 works fine - sees the Windows OS as per normal and allows installing into the prepared free space. If I try to install 13.10, it doesn't detect Windows 8.1 at all. I'm reluctant to proceed manually as I'm not sure what will happen because of this "non-detection". Has anyone experienced this, and is there a way round? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
