Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help! - problem installing Ubuntu
On 22/06/15 15:51, Tony Pursell wrote: The installer (from the USB stick) was in EFI mode, and the installation of Ubuntu is EFI as well. This is according to tests in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI under Identifying if the computer boots the HDD in UEFI mode and Identifying if the computer boots the Ubuntu DVD in UEFI mode That should not have been able to happen. You probably ought to report it as a bug, doing it from the Live CD using your USB stick, and using ubuntu-bug. Regards,Barry. -- http://barrydrake.co.nr/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help! - problem installing Ubuntu
Hi Barry On 22 June 2015 at 14:25, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote: On 22/06/15 12:27, Tony Pursell wrote: I do, however, have a residual problem. When I start the computer up, I do not get a GRUB menu. I can only start Ubuntu from the computer's F12 boot menu. It will then show a GRUB menu, which includes Windows Boot loader. Is there a way to go straight to the GRUB menu? I have followed a lot of the online advice and changed setting in the BIOS but I don't see any advice that explicitly refers to this problem. I think we are back to the problem I said you would get if the installer installed from the normal boot menu and not from the grub screen which only appears when you boot the disk in EFI mode. Look at the EFI boot partition - it is a small partition at the beginning of the drive. It is only about 240 MB in size. In it, there will be Windows boot instructions in one directory, and if it has installed correctly, there ought to be an Ubuntu directory in the same partition with Ubuntu instructions. If it is not there, the installer has installed in BIOS mode - and strictly, the two systems shouldn't be mixed. The installer (from the USB stick) was in EFI mode, and the installation of Ubuntu is EFI as well. This is according to tests in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI under Identifying if the computer boots the HDD in UEFI mode and Identifying if the computer boots the Ubuntu DVD in UEFI mode There is a partition called LRS_ESP (520MB, msdos) which has folders EFI and onekey. The EFI folder only contains a folder Microsoft If the Ubuntu directory is there, then there is a bug in the installer, you should report it. In your case, it ought to be fixable by re-installing grub and doing an update. That should (hopefully) not stop the ability to boot Windows, but only from the new grub screen. No guarantees! If you do report it as a bug, let me know - I can probably confirm it after a couple of tests. I don't want to do anything that will risk not being able to boot Windows. I'm unlikely to use it much but there are some circumstances that may arise where I need it. If it has been installed in BIOS mode, you may get away with it if you do an 'install-grub' followed by an 'update-grub', but this process WILL destroy the ability to boot directly into Windows as you can now do. Hopefully, update-grub will find both systems and allow proper booting of both OSs from the new grub screen that will appear. I can't guarantee it though, hence the BIG note of caution. Be prepared to re-install Windows. In the latter case, the safer option would be to re-install Ubuntu from a disk booting in EFI mode and to use the disk boot grub screen. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] FW: [HLUG] Linux Beginners meeting this coming Wednesday.
-Original Message- From: brightfi...@runbox.com Sent: 19 June 2015 18:19 To: herefordshire herefordsh...@mailman.lug.org.uk Cc: herefordshire herefordsh...@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [HLUG] Linux Beginners meeting this coming Wednesday. Hi All, Below are the details of this coming Wednesday (24th) nights 'Linux Beginners Meeting'. It is being held at Grange Court ( http://www.grangecourt.org/ ) Leominster at 7pm. Spread the word it would be great to have input from other HLUG members on the night. Smiles, Charlie. Linux for Beginners. The aim is to try and take away the fear of trying Linux for the first time user. There will be discussion on some of the different types of distros focusing in the main on the types that are suitable for those who are starting out. The session will be informal to allow questions as we go along. We will highlight the positive reasons for switching. Taking very much to heart the point that any person who is considering making the shift from windows will just want something that is reliable and works for them. We will discuss open source alternatives to the programs they need to use to get their daily work done eg: Libre Office instead of Microsoft Office Thunderbird instead of Outlook Express Gimp instead of Photoshop It will be a certainty that they are already using open source everyday without knowing it. Web Browsers, etc. We will also be doing a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64bit. The emphasis will be on reliability so there will be a discussion on the differences between rolling releases and LTS. The install will be on a Lenovo Thinkpad X61s that can be picked up for as little as £70 on the net. It will show that you can take a piece of relatively old hardware and turn it into a very usable computer that will more than keep up with the daily needs of most people. Then there will be a brief demonstration of the features of the OS, hooking up to the wifi, Surfing the net, Libre Office, etc. (I will bring another laptop that is pre-installed also to do this). We can discuss the safety features of Linux at this time to. We will of course use all the usual caveats of backing up all your data, etc. Then there will be an open discussion and Q and A. -- Herefordshire LUG mailing list Web: http://www.herefordshire.lug.org.uk List: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/herefordshire -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help! - problem installing Ubuntu
I found that 'ubuntu' was listed in the computer's boot menu, so I tried that and it booted Ubuntu to the log in screen. However, I could not get past the log in, so something was missing from the install. So I did a re-install from the USB stick using the complete re-install option in the installer and it worked fine, completing OK this time. I must say, I am impressed by the way the installer works these days. My last full install was with 12.04. I do, however, have a residual problem. When I start the computer up, I do not get a GRUB menu. I can only start Ubuntu from the computer's F12 boot menu. It will then show a GRUB menu, which includes Windows Boot loader. Is there a way to go straight to the GRUB menu? I have followed a lot of the online advice and changed setting in the BIOS but I don't see any advice that explicitly refers to this problem. On 21 June 2015 at 06:22, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote: On 20/06/15 23:42, Tony Pursell wrote: Currently, it boots to Ubuntu from a USB, if I have it plugged in, otherwise it boots into Widows 8.1. When booted using the live USB, the Ubuntu partition installed on the hard drive seems to be all there, although I wouldn't know if some files The Ubuntu partition will be all there. No files will be missing. The problem will occur if Ubuntu is not installing in EFI mode. If it tries to install in BIOS mode, the installation of grub that it carries out will overwrite the BIOS boot sector on your HD. You can't see any files on a BIOS boot sector. All the files will be there, but if it did install with BIOS boot, it will mess up EFI boot.What I am saying is I don't know for certain what effect that will have. Hopefully, grub will find Windows and make it bootable as dual boot. I hope that will be the case, but make sure you have the potential to reinstall Windows just in case you have to. Regards,Barry. -- http://barrydrake.co.nr/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Publishing app stalled
On 21 June 2015 at 21:12, Gareth France gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk wrote: I submitted my application for desktop submission to the software centre three weeks ago and haven't heard a thing back since. Does anyone know how long the waiting list for approval is? At what point do you start to think there is a problem? It's actually waiting on you to fix the packaging. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help! - problem installing Ubuntu
On 22/06/15 12:27, Tony Pursell wrote: I do, however, have a residual problem. When I start the computer up, I do not get a GRUB menu. I can only start Ubuntu from the computer's F12 boot menu. It will then show a GRUB menu, which includes Windows Boot loader. Is there a way to go straight to the GRUB menu? I have followed a lot of the online advice and changed setting in the BIOS but I don't see any advice that explicitly refers to this problem. I think we are back to the problem I said you would get if the installer installed from the normal boot menu and not from the grub screen which only appears when you boot the disk in EFI mode. Look at the EFI boot partition - it is a small partition at the beginning of the drive. It is only about 240 MB in size. In it, there will be Windows boot instructions in one directory, and if it has installed correctly, there ought to be an Ubuntu directory in the same partition with Ubuntu instructions. If it is not there, the installer has installed in BIOS mode - and strictly, the two systems shouldn't be mixed. If the Ubuntu directory is there, then there is a bug in the installer, you should report it. In your case, it ought to be fixable by re-installing grub and doing an update. That should (hopefully) not stop the ability to boot Windows, but only from the new grub screen. No guarantees! If you do report it as a bug, let me know - I can probably confirm it after a couple of tests. If it has been installed in BIOS mode, you may get away with it if you do an 'install-grub' followed by an 'update-grub', but this process WILL destroy the ability to boot directly into Windows as you can now do. Hopefully, update-grub will find both systems and allow proper booting of both OSs from the new grub screen that will appear. I can't guarantee it though, hence the BIG note of caution. Be prepared to re-install Windows. In the latter case, the safer option would be to re-install Ubuntu from a disk booting in EFI mode and to use the disk boot grub screen. Regards,Barry. -- http://barrydrake.co.nr/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
