Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12" Ubuntu Inspiron

2008-09-12 Thread Chris Oattes
Michael Holloway wrote:
> Is anyone else very confused???
> 

Yes. Sadly, this mental state is in fact normal for me, and not entirely
related to the contents of this thread.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] An error message in dvdrip

2008-05-21 Thread Chris Oattes
Javad Ayaz said the following on 21/05/08 17:29:
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   11 2008-05-19 21:38 cdrom -> media/cdrom
> drwxr-xr-x  18 root root 4096 2008-05-21 17:01 media
> 
That is your problem - the directory /media is owned by root, which 
means that you can't write to it. I would suggest saving the files in 
your home directory (which you automatically have permissions for), or, 
if you *really* need to store it in /media, let me know and I will tell 
you how to create a subfolder and change the permissions.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] An error message in dvdrip

2008-05-21 Thread Chris Oattes
Javad Ayaz said the following on 21/05/08 17:21:
> Hi,
> 
> i apologise for "copy, pasting" here

If you don't want to paste directly into your emails there is always 
http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org



> "An internal exception was thrown!
> The error message was:
> 
> can't write /media/salambombay.rip at
> /usr/share/perl5/Video/DVDRip/Project.pm line 158
> Video::DVDRip::Project::save('Video::DVDRip::Project=HASH(0x9595cc0)')
> called at /usr/share/perl5/Video/DVDRip/GUI/Main.pm line 644
> 
I suspect that this is an issue either with file permissions or disk 
space. What are the permissions on the /media directory?

ls -l / | grep media

and how much space is left on the drive?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Messages not getting through

2008-05-20 Thread Chris Oattes
andylockran said the following on 20/05/08 13:30:

> Yeah, and the Click! one I sent yesterday @ 20:57 has just delivered.
> 
> Kewl, back to normal service.

As normal as this list gets...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux to appear on every Asus motherboard

2008-05-14 Thread Chris Oattes
Jai Harrison said the following on 14/05/08 22:45:
> What if I did not have an e-mail address available to me? It seems in
> that case my right to access the source would have been withdrawn from
> me.
> 

What if you were homeless and living on the streets, with no computer? 
How much effort do they need to put in to tracking you down to give you 
a copy of the source?

IMO, It is not unreasonable  to assume that someone with a computer has 
an email address.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Chris Oattes
Tony Arnold said the following on 12/05/08 11:24:
> Javad,
> 
> Javad Ayaz wrote:
>> a laptop would come under that!!!
> 
> Yep! Just run it on batteries!
> 
> Tony.


I'm afraid that this isn't the case:

"Do I need a TV Licence if I only watch programmes online?

It makes no difference how you watch TV - whether it's on your laptop, 
PC or mobile phone or through a digital box, DVD recorder or TV set - if 
you use any device to receive television programmes as they're being 
shown on TV, the law requires you to be covered by a TV Licence.

You will not need a TV Licence to view video clips on the internet, as 
long as what you are viewing is not being shown on TV at the same time 
as you are viewing it."

http://tinyurl.com/6loxlw (using tinyurl because the licensing URL is huge)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread Chris Oattes
James Westby said the following on 24/04/08 13:30:
the point is moot now, as it's
> officially released.
> 
> Enjoy Hardy everyone.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> James
> 
> 

Yup:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2008-April/000111.html

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread Chris Oattes
Stephen O'Neill said the following on 24/04/08 13:18:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Chris Oattes wrote:
> | What makes you say it is released? Or were you just referring to the
> | face that a full upgrade from the RC is 99.9% likely to be the final
> | release?
> 
> 
> The RC files on the have been removed so looks like it's hit the mirrors:
> 
> http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/

It is generally a Bad Idea to start downloading it before it is 
officially announced. They put the isos on the main mirrors so that the 
other mirrors around the world can start downloading them. If you start 
downloading before the announcement, it takes longer for the necessary 
number of mirrors to get a copy because you steal their bandwidth, and 
therefore delay the release announcement.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread Chris Oattes
alan c said the following on 24/04/08 12:18:
> Hardy available now
I can't see any announcements stating this on the ubuntu-announce 
mailing list, on IRC or on the official site.

What makes you say it is released? Or were you just referring to the 
face that a full upgrade from the RC is 99.9% likely to be the final 
release?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Any interest in a Packaging Jam/Bug Jam?

2008-03-09 Thread Chris Oattes
I would be interested, I've not really done any packaging / bug stuff 
before. Sadly, I'm tied up with coursework / exams until the end of may :(


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: Re: [OT] - MS XP Pro OEM CD - How?]

2008-02-17 Thread Chris Oattes
Sean Miller said the following on 17/02/08 10:02:
> On 2/16/08, Eddie Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Well what started out as a simple request has turned into a lot of
>> unpleasantness:
>> I don't know how to make it any more obvious I was seeking a *legal*
>> solution and hoped somebody here might have one. I've all ready agreed
>> that what you say may be correct in essence not necessarily the detail
>> but I really can't be bothered arguing it any more.
> 
> 
> 
> I really don't think Micro$oft is going to go to all the effort of suing
> somebody for re-installing an OEM machine using somebody else's CD (be that
> their physical CD or a burned image of it), I really don't... it would be
> incredibly pedantic to classify such a thing a piracy as the software is
> protected by licence keys and is useless without them... I would call
> copying the CD a "technical infringement of the licence terms", no more than
> that.  Piracy would have to involve also sharing the key or distributing a
> hacked copy that doesn't require a key, something that has not happened here
> at all... whether a copy has been burned from one's own CD  (legal, I
> believe, for backup purposes) or from somebody else's what is arrived at in
> the end is the same... an installation of Windows XP using a valid OEM
> licence on the machine for which that licence was supplied...
> 
> Sean
> 
> 

I don't think the issue is that you will get fined loads of money for 
copying a Windows CD. The point is that it is, at best, against the 
terms of the license, and at worse could be considered piracy. Therefore 
the act of making a copy of the CD for someone else is "wrong" whichever 
way you look at it, and is not something that should be promoted on this 
list.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 33, Issue 51

2008-01-27 Thread Chris Oattes
Tony Arnold said the following on 27/01/08 19:24:

> 
> I wouldn't worry about it! Most e-mail disclaimers are completely
> pointless and wouldn't stand up in a court of law.
> 
> The above says the contents should not be disclosed to any person who is
> not a named recipient. But you are not a named recipient and you've seen
> the content, so it's rather late reading the disclaimer!
> 

The worst thing is, the disclaimer is about 3x as long as any useful 
content in the message. Is there / should there be a list policy of not 
allowing messages with the 10 lines of "IF YOU READ THIS YOU WILL DIE" 
attached to the end?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chocolate Oranges WAS: By way of introduction

2008-01-20 Thread Chris Oattes
A. Because it makes things easier to read
Q. Why should people bottom post?

Kirrus said the following on 20/01/08 22:43:
> 
 Wandering off at a tangent? We never _ever_ do that! ;)
>>> /me thinks about breaking open a chocolate orange...
>>>  
>>> Ah, tap and unwrap. I can taste it now :-)
>>  but the instructions now say "strike" not "tap" 
>>
> 
> Its more like smash on a hard surface, with great relish. At least, thats how 
> I break mine...
> 
> Kirrus
> 
> ps Ian, can you try to not top post please? 
> (Pretty please, with pink sugar icing on top?)
> 
> pps
> I apologise if this post contains more elaborate wording than I normally use. 
> In the middle of writing a PBEM RPG post...
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] explain this then

2007-11-07 Thread Chris Oattes
norman said the following on 07/11/07 15:24:
> I loaded a collection of photographs into an empty folder and, instead
> of appearing as thumbnails, they appeared as icons which looked like a
> sheet of printed paper with the top right hand corner turned down and a
> clock at the bottom right hand corner with the hands at 5.00. I dragged
> one of the icons onto the desktop, opened it with an image viewer and
> the photograph duly appeared. After closing the image the icon was then
> dragged back into the folder where it changed to a thumbnail. This
> happened on every instance and I wonder why?
> 
> Norman
> 
> 
I believe that the "clock" icon you are talking about means that the 
system is "thinking" about it (i.e. Trying to generate the thumbnail) - 
is the computer particularly slow, or is the collection of photos 
particularly large? When I open a folder of 70 photos, the clock icon 
appears for half a second before being replaced by the thumbnails. When 
opening larger collections, the clocks are replaced one by one with 
thumbnails.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas

2007-10-29 Thread Chris Oattes
Chris Rowson said the following on 29/10/07 23:13:
>> On the location, my feeling is that if you run it in London people in
>> the far north of the country may miss out because of the travelling
>> time, so somewhere in the middle, I think would be better.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tony.
>> -- 
> 
> Agreed, Somewhere nice and central would be good. Birmingham seems
> pretty central to both north and south dwellers. Manchester is maybe a
> little more north (although not so far for me!) 
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
Isn't London the centre of the UK? :P

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best ISP?

2007-10-23 Thread Chris Oattes
Jai Harrison said the following on 23/10/07 21:55:
> Hey Guys,
> 
> I figured this would be an interesting topic for people to discuss.
> We're all from the UK so it should work nicely. What is the best
> Internet Service Provider in your opinion and why? Please state
> whether it is ADSL or cable.
> 
> Jai
> 

Hi

I think Zen are the best ISP I have dealt with - they may be a little 
more expensive than the others, but they have good customer service (on 
the few occasions I have had to deal with them), and the connection 
seems to be reliable. Also, 8 free public IPs is a good thing :D

In the past 3 years I have deal with 
Freeserve/Wanadoo/Orange/Whatever-they-are-now, Nildram, Zen and Be. Zen 
has been the best by far, Nildram and Be are joint second (Be isn't 
great, but the speed is), and Orange comes in last due to a poor 
connection, which used to be much better when it was freeserve.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Chris Oattes
Mark Harrison said the following on 21/10/07 19:53:
> IMPORTANT NOTE  I am acting like a typical "PR Flack" in this. As 
> far as I'm aware, NONE of the quotes I've made up for Alan have actually 
> been said... Normal practice with PR stuff is for the PR flack to make 
> them up, then ask the person being quoted if that's OK :-)
> 
> ANOTHER IMPORTANT NOTE  This is deliberately aimed at people who 
> DON'T know much about computers. You may wince at some of the things I 
> say... but now imagine that you didn't care about IT, and see whether it 
> sounds compelling :-)
> 
> NOTE 3: I'm also deliberately making it a "future event", so it feels 
> like "new to be reported on", rather than "same old, same old."
> 
> 
> 
> London, 21st October 2007
> 
> The UK Ubuntu community is pleased to announce that, effective from 1st 
> November, it will be offering free technical support to users of 
> selected Tescos PC, at centres up and down the country.
> 
> The PCs in question run Ubuntu, a free alternative to Microsoft Windows, 
> including both office software (word processor, spreadsheet and 
> presentation program) as well as tools for Internet surfing and home users.
> 
> Alan Pope, the recently elected "Point of Contact" for the UK community 
> explains the benefits:
> 
> "This is dramatically reducing the price that people are paying for PCs. 
> Ubuntu is a great alternative to Microsoft Windows for web users. We 
> understand that Tescos chose it, not just on price, but because they 
> found it to be less prone to virus attacks."
> 
> Until now, the software has only been available from web-based retailers 
> such as Dell, or for download, but most people with Windows 
> pre-installed on a PC haven't seen the need to change.
> 
> Mark Harrison, an IT Director based in Sussex, explains.
> 
> "With a copy of Vista coming in at about £180 from PC World, you can see 
> why people want to stick with what they've already paid for rather than 
> change. However, with Tesco now selling a PC base unit at under £140, 
> it's an ideal solution for people who've already got a monitor, but need 
> a faster PC to cope with broadband. Support has been the problem though, 
> since most people are familiar with the Microsoft software."
> 
> This is where the Ubuntu community comes in. Pope adds:
> 
> "What we're doing is offering free support to everyone with Ubuntu... 
> whether they downloaded it for themselves, or bought it with a Dell or 
> Tesco PC. We've teamed up with the local Linux User Groups to provide 
> face-to-face support on Ubuntu up and down the UK, ideal for people who 
> don't like the idea of trying to get support over the Internet."
> 
> Press Contact: Presumably Alan, presumably a special page on the Wiki 
> about where people can get help (just a link to the LUGs)
> 

I would be concerned that people may think of this as some sort of 
"contract", and that we would have to support them no matter what. We 
would have to have some people who can guarantee that they can travel to 
visit people to support them etc. - The time constraints may be too much 
to deal with.

With regards to online support, it may end up swamping #ubuntu-uk, and 
the mailing list, with support requests - I do not believe that this is 
the intended purpose of either of these resources.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] package removal.

2007-10-10 Thread Chris Oattes
norman wrote:
>>> Do you mean that even though I think I have removed a package it is
>>> stored somewhere on the hard drive and is accessible to some utility
>>> or other in Ubuntu?
>> Yes there is a cache in /var/cache/apt/archives/ so it might have still
>> been there, but if it wasn't and was a dependency of the plugin you
>> installed apt would have downloaded the package from the repository
>> server on the internet.
> 
> Thanks, I can understand that, it's just that I thought I would have to
> give permission for something to be loaded.
> 
> Norman
> 
> 
You probably did. The packages stored in the archives are packages that 
you downloaded, or dependencies for those packages (which you would have 
agreed to download when you downloaded the original package) - at least 
as far as I know. I think the main point is that it keeps copies of the 
packages you download so that if you decide to reinstall them it doesn't 
have to get them again. Also, it means that if a download halts partway 
through, you dont have to re-download the packages you have already got.

I hope all that is right - i'm sure i'll be corrected if it isn't

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ADMIN] Next meeting 13/10/07 @ 20:30 BST in #ubuntu-uk

2007-10-10 Thread Chris Oattes
> 
> I saw this today on Planet Debian: http://layer-acht.org/blog/debian/#1-129
> 
> The wiki page is at: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot
> 
> Not sure if the team uses bots already but thought I'd at least
> suggest looking into it.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Philip

MeetBot is a brilliant idea (but I would say that - I wrote the first 
versions of it :P)

MeetBot is a copy of the code of Mootbot, which I wrote at the beginning 
of the year for Ubuntu-UK meetings, when I realised that compiling the 
minutes of the meeting was a real pain.

Mootbot is currently in the ubuntu-uk channel, and is (afaik) used for 
meetings already.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting Processes and Democracy

2007-10-01 Thread Chris Oattes
Chris Rowson wrote:
> As I'm sure that most of you are aware a discussion has taken place on
> the mailing list as to the legitimacy and accuracy of the PoC election
> process.
> 
> I'm becoming somewhat concerned at the direction these discussions are
> taking, as on occasion (in my humble opinion) they may be regarded as
> coming close to a personal attack.
> 
> I'd like to take this opportunity to direct you all to the Ubuntu Code
> of Conduct which many of us have signed. If you'd like to read it, you
> can find it here: www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct.
> 
> Please pay close attention to the section entitled 'Be Respectful'. It
> reads "We may not always agree, but disagreement is no excuse for poor
> behaviour and poor manners. We might all experience some frustration
> now and then, but we cannot allow that frustration to turn into a
> personal attack."
> 
> Lets not degenerate into a rabble please, I'm sure that this can be sorted 
> out.
> 
> Perhaps an easy way to sort this out would be to simply poll the
> thoughts of the interested parties without all of the emotion.
> 
> The question is quite simply do you want the election to be held
> again, yes or no?
> 
Maybe we need another launchpad vote on whether we should have another 
vote? And a vote about whether a vote about voting is really necessary? 
At what point does all this just become silly?

Personally, this is dragging on much longer than it should. Both parties 
that were in contention for the role have said that they are happy with 
the outcome.

Based on the number of people active in the IRC channel / on the mailing 
list, I doubt very much that there would be enough participants to put 
one of the other candidates in the picture. I say leave it as it is, and 
note down what went wrong, so next time the same mistakes won't be made.

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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Scribes - First Meeting Tonight!

2007-02-05 Thread Chris Oattes
Hi,
As many of you are aware most Ubuntu related meetings occur online in 
IRC chat channels for which plenty has already been done to help people 
find and become involved. These meetings are going on all the time all 
over the world and generate an awful lot of documentation, discussion, 
ideas and plans. This information tends to be collated and distributed 
in a fairly widespread and random fashion.

Following on from the value which I feel we have gained in structuring 
the meetings I felt it would be useful to share that experience and 
start to help standardise the information and results which arise from 
those discussions. To this end AusImage and myself, with the prompting 
of NikButler(Loudmouthman on irc )  have created the Ubuntu Scribes 
Team. Our goal is to encourage other teams even unto the Community 
Council to develop and use the Mootbot and meeting structure to help 
with the process of documenting and recording meetings. Your thoughts, 
views and feelings for tonights first meeting of the Scribes team would 
be invaluable and I hope you can attend. The meeting will be in 
#ubuntu-scribes on irc.frenode.net at 8pm GMT. For more information read 
the following links and help set this idea moving forward in the community.

UbuntuScribes wiki page: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam
Agenda for the meeting: 
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MeetingNotes/20070205Meeting

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[ubuntu-uk] [OT] Test message

2007-01-25 Thread Chris Oattes
Sorry bout sending junk to the list, but I wanted to check that it is 
still alive as i haven't been receiving messages.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Meeting clash

2007-01-02 Thread Chris Oattes
I agree with 2100 on the 10th January

Chris

(Seeker` on irc.freenode.net)

Quoting Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Our next online meeting is scheduled [0] for 21:30 on 9th Jan 2007. The
> community council are meeting [1] at 21:00 on the same day.
>
> Should we bump ours to another time date? So people who want to attend
> both aren't splitting themselves between channels?
>
> How about 21:00 on the 10th?
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
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