Re: [ubuntu-uk] Aptitude
On 07/06/10 14:30, Paul Tansom wrote: ** Tony Arnoldtony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk [2010-06-07 11:18]: On 07/06/10 08:51, Neil Perry wrote: I've just been pointed out, that for Maverick they have removed aptitude being install by default. I don't want to start another button debate. But how many of you using aptitude rather then apt-get? I've used aptitude since I started using ubuntu, seeing as I thought apt-get wasn't maintained any more. That's irritating. On the command line I always use aptitude. I started doing so because I thought I had seen somewhere that debian was adopting aptitude as their standard command line package management tool. I guess I'll just add aptitude to do the list of packages I install by default. ** end quote [Tony Arnold] Yes, I've always used aptitude as well, believing it to be the replacement for apt-get. I also quite like that it has search built in rather than having to install apt-find as well. I have to say that the only time I use the GUI tools, even on Ubuntu desktop, is when it pops up with updates. If I want a new package I use aptitude, and haven't found any of the attempts at GUI tools to be anywhere near as easy to use. Maybe that's because I'm a techy, and increasingly Ubuntu seems to be aimed at non-techies. Server side I use aptitude all the time since you never need a GUI on a server - obvious to anyone except Microsoft ;) You don't need to install apt-find to search, just use 'apt-cache search', which comes with apt-get by default :) Johnathon -- All postal correspondence to: Positive House, 24 Broadway, London. W13 0SU The Positive Internet Company Limited is registered in England and Wales. Registered company number: 3673639. VAT no: 726 7072 28. Registered office: Northside House, Mount Pleasant, Barnet, Herts, EN4 9EE. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] [VACANCIES] Tech Support / System Admins at Positive Internet
Hi all, Just a quick message. My employers are currently looking for techies to provide customer facing and sysadmin support on Debian machines around Cambridgeshire/Peterborough area. Salary based on experience, hiring junior and experienced staff. We do shared hosting, hundreds of sites on one server, and clustered hosting, one site on a few servers. If anyone is interested, drop us a cv to j...@giraffe.org.uk Best, Johnathon -- All postal correspondence to: Positive House, 24 Broadway, London. W13 0SU The Positive Internet Company Limited is registered in England and Wales. Registered company number: 3673639. VAT no: 726 7072 28. Registered office: Northside House, Mount Pleasant, Barnet, Herts, EN4 9EE. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Alex (laptop, not person)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anyone seen this? Looks interesting.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8522952.stm -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkt+Y5wACgkQ81bUwCB/xdiEAgCfTzSyDZODyyRrQ+G5WtBuBoJR adwAn2tN7PGpqM1xyUb92s9PPE5FJDOM =6kNC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Viral Videos - Who's actually interested?....Just another thought....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Matthews wrote: I am getting excited and worked up with the rest of you about the impending rush on advertising Ubuntu to get more people to use it, plus the courses that are being set up, but I seem to remember getting my little netbook, with Linux Lite on it, that was sold by one of the large electronics companies on the high street. The guy there said to me, you know you will bring it back dont you. Everybody else has, they cant connect to their internet. I heard a lot about Linux computers being taken back because people couldnt work out how to use them, the shops didnt even ask what was up in the end, they just credited them. That was last year. Has anybody thought about how they are going to make it so that it can be easier to set the machine up, when its first opened? Plus, has anybody thought, who and how if there is an increase in Linux users, a help format is going to be set up, so that people can get immediate help, if needed, because it will be immediate help that people will want, not sometime later, but there and then, they wont wait, and its no good saying, 'those of us who are on these forums and e-mail groups have other jobs and we do this for nothing, that wont be good enough'. people wont accept that. You could be doing Ubuntu a world of good, with all this new advertising and enthusiasm, but you could ruin it for good, if there is no sufficient help after sales. Just a thought. Should we create a helper program, with a launcher on the desktop, (or favourites list in UNR) which offers to guide users through the basics of getting their system online, and then getting help from the ubuntu community? It would have to be quite comprehensive to deal with the UK standard types of internet connectivity, wifi keys, ethernet cable, adsl modem, etc.. Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktpTsMACgkQ81bUwCB/xdiXsgCfTM+gqIz8pFgku08tql0Hpv/f Y+kAoNopF9QrrFFi1n6lybkryo7Rq1jj =hywq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Viral Videos - Who's actually interested?....Just another thought....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob Beard wrote: Quoting Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com: That's also one of the aims of the ubuntu viral videos project - to give help to the new users. Regards Liam I wouldn't have thought a viral video could go into enough detail to show a user how to do something, I'd have thought that if it was video based then it would be more likely that a Screencast would be of more use to show a user how to do something. I'd have thought a viral video should be eye catching and funny, maybe pointing out some of the features of Ubuntu but not going into great detail. This is the sort-of thing that would be a good viral. 4 million views on youtube, plus however many on the college humour site. It went viral: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktpa0EACgkQ81bUwCB/xdhDewCfRa9gi6a4GWM3RxozupgqjvCp it8An2bobRgaxqwyAs7sccEFb4HAJ7v1 =Z/ck -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Viral Videos - Who's actually interested?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vinothan Shankar wrote: On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 13:53 +, Liam Wilson wrote: Right, so it seems that creating a 'Viral Videos' snip If you're interested, reply to this message. I'd be happy to help with any video projectv If you do go ahead with a viral, the best way to make it go viral is make it funny. Very funny. If I can help, I will. Still think it would be better to work on support though, though I don't think I can help much with that! Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktoNgwACgkQ81bUwCB/xdh6qwCfcsrQxY3ZVfFih7QMSD1zhIdi LsoAoMQF8wAPpNG1P/m9HZ69aXkO44Yv =CXtR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Viral Videos - Who's actually interested?
- Ron Rhodes owdronrho...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Alan Pope wrote: On 2 February 2010 16:12, Harry Rickards ha...@linux.com wrote: I'd be interested in helping wherever I can. Perhaps we should have a seperate mailing list to discuss this on? Why not use the resources we have. There is a marketing list and a marketing irc channel. Cheers, Al. They are not listening to you Alan, they are on cloud 9 with their pie in the sky plans repeating things and getting nowhere ... In fact, a mail has already gone out to those who said they were interesting, saying sign up to the marketing list... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Before we try to get new users into Ubuntu, shouldn't we try to retain the people flicking in and out of Ubuntu now? There was discussion about supporting new users, with remote techy support. Can we catch those who post This is too hard, I'm going back to windows and try to retain more of them with a high-quality community support mechanism? Ubuntu hour might be something we can push, but other things as well, remote or phone support for example? Johnathon Liam Wilson wrote: Okay, I've been in touch with the marketing team, and they've said that if we wanted to do this, we'd have to look at the costs of producing and marketing the advert, were there to be one. It was also suggested that we should consider not using ITV as the main medium for promoting, but instead use E4 or another cable channel, as it's cheaper. But of course, anther suggested getting commercial backing to fund it, but is that really viable.I think the only thing that's getting in the way here, is the funding of the advert ere we to get it on the air. I think an option we should consider is putting it on the internet; i.e; Youtube. I think it would get a lot more watches there, and would cost a heck less than airing it, and were it to be successful, perhaps we could create more. sort of like microsoft's effortshttp://www.youtube.com/user/WindowsVideos Sort of like what we have with the screencasts channel, too. But that's just my suggestion... Liam On 1 February 2010 10:15, darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 23:32 +, Alan Pope wrote: On 31 January 2010 23:13, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote: IF we are going to make this video, ideally, it would be better to thin= k about actual content first. =20 I disagree. The very first thing is to look at what the goal is. Only once you know the goal, target audience, approach, method of delivery and so on can you begin to look at content. I'm personally of the opinion that now is not the time to create a TV advert, and that the money/time could be better spent on other things, but its not my place to tell people what to do. I agree completely that the first thing is to know the goal. We often get ahead of ourselves in the community, which is not necessarily a bad thing but we need to know what we want first before we can begin to plan how to deliver it. I disagree that it's not the time to advertise on TV. I've been championing the idea of a TV advert for Ubuntu for a long time but alongside another campaign of something like offering Ubuntu for sale in mainstream areas e.g. PC World (not some half-assed effort like Dell). The major problems Ubuntu face with adoption are obscurity and Microsoft having a stranglehold on the pre-install market. Both need to be attacked at once if any inroads are to be made, a TV advert on it's own may increase visibility but to what end? The audience it would target are casual computer users who are very unlikely to go and download an ISO and reload their computer off the strength of an ad. If they are then able to go to PC World and buy the 'cheap Mac' after being impressed with the stuff on the advert it has a lot more impact. Getting someone like DSG on-side is a must and Canonical need to do a bit of a deal with the devil with this key area. Regarding the advert content, it's a case of following Apple's lead with their cool iPhone ads. Show how the desktop is silky smooth with desktop effects, show how there's a built-in Office suite with full MS Office compatibility, show how it's immune to viruses and it's the most secure Operating System on the planet. Champion all of it's strengths without going in any way geeky (nothing about community driven development etc.) The strength of the software can stand on it's own without having to refer to traditional geekdom advantages. Regards, --=20 Darren Mansell=20 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktmyVEACgkQ81bUwCB/xdjwwgCgsZ0I3VL58Hyz2mZppO57rxpv GIEAoJcVj3Ea5fJ0ORN4uzVyMJ447yrC =iWsr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Server shutting itself down or going into a deep sleep
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 snip Have you tried using the Magic SysRq key on the keyboard? ... The meanings of the keys, IIRC: R - raw keyboard mode (stop X grabbing the key presses) E - send SIGTERM to all processes I - send SIGTERM to init S - sync the disks U - unmount the mounted partitions B - reboot It's probably worth mentioning that you need to wait a second or 2 between each key press. If you do it too quickly I have noticed it doesn't always work. Almost got all the meanings. I sends SIGKILL to all processes, killing anything that hasn't yet terminated itself. You should wait at least 5-10 seconds after hitting 'e' to hit 'i', because it's effectively kill -9, so will stop all processes without letting them gracefully stop. (In fact, it sends SIGKILL to everything *but* init :-) ) U doesn't just un-mount the partitions, it remounts them read-only. Useful if you need to quickly stop writes hitting a corrupted disk, but don't want to take the system offline! And no, you don't need to take your fingers off of the ALT + SYSRQ keys every time you hit a letter. Many a time have I used raising elephants is so at 3am at our datacentre ;) Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAksmFCgACgkQ81bUwCB/xdjoxwCfQXhfLlbZKbcf73jxjqm7IQBn eb4AnRJ0GL3l+0jghaeh1TMQhWxGnyAj =Epte -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Successful simple trojan hit gnome-look
See here for more: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/malware-found-in-screensaver-for-ubuntu.html -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Successful simple trojan hit gnome-look
Matthew Wild wrote: 2009/12/9 Andrew Drapper and...@drapper.com: It may not be the same as a sandbox, but what about installing software that you are not sure about in a virtual ubuntu inside you main ubuntu say using virtualbox? This particular malware did nothing (so far) to the host machine, it simply used it (and collectively all the other machines it was installed on) to flood another server. Basically a primitive (yet effective) botnet. In this respect, if the virtual machine had network access, the malware would work still, it just wouldn't have the potential to harm *your* computer. It wouldn't be hard to make this more effective either. The really scary trojan (whose name eludes me right now), managed to use effective algorithmically generated domain names for its update download location. And you can hide the packages files, even corrupt the debian packaging system to stop it from knowing about all the files you've installed... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken
etali wrote: John Levin wrote: On 27/10/2009 08:47, LeeGroups wrote: I've now gone back to Jaunty. This is the first time that any Ubuntu version hasn't got online out of the box for me. Very disappointing. John I've only just subscribed to this list. How long ago did you download your Karmic install? I've been testing Karmic on a spare box and had tons of problems getting online with the previous betas, but yesterday I downloaded Karmic Final (testing), and it seems to have fixed all my problems. For some reason, I've been having trouble with DNS resolution since rebooting onto the RC. I'm having to run sudo dhclient manually, to force my computer to get an IP address, and load the nameservers. Might be worth a shot... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] laptop batteries
mac wrote: Sean Miller wrote: Can't personally vouch for them... Thanks for your suggestion. It was a 'can personally vouch for them' that I was after, really, given the number and obscurity of sellers of non-genuine parts. Err... I can give a negative, I'm afraid. They said a battery would work in my laptop, so I ordered it. Lo and behold, when it turned up (which was swift) it didn't fit the laptop :( Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic upgrade this morning
Hi Sean, Sean Miller wrote: Maybe it's time to upgrade my Ubuntu to Karmic... hmmm Any wireless issues I should know about? I've not seen any, but the rule is, do not use development releases on production systems, 'cos they break stuff. (He says, working on his computer which is running Karmic. It broke, perfect time to reinstall it with karmic ;) ) I've not noticed anything serious going wrong. Few bugs with my dual-screening graphics, but apart from that it seems pretty solid. Still, the old 'not for production use' label still applies, so you can't complain if they break something.. Best regards, Johnathon Sean On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Jamie Bennett ja...@linuxuk.org wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 10:09 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: I just wondered if this upgrade is the Beta version of Karmic which is due any time now? Beta hasn't been released yet, that's not to say that what you have isn't the final beta, just that it may change by tomorrow ;) Rob Regards, Jamie. -- http://www.linuxuk.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GlobalJam - London
James Thomas wrote: Cheers Leroy, Waiting on others responses. If there are no other takers for the Sunday I will just do the Saturday and attend another myself. :) o/ I'll do both Saturday and Sunday, if there are enough people to make it worth doing on Sunday ;) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Global BugJam UK
Hello All, I've not seen much information here about the Global Bugjam. Are the UK meetings going ahead? Are the venues set? Where can I find directions? (There is a reason some of my friends nicknamed me A-Z...) Best :) Johnathon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The Stolen Earth
Harry Rickards wrote: William Anderson wrote: David King wrote: Interesting podcast, entertaining as usual. However, I did not hear any references to the Stolen Earth, which title I assume you took from a recent Doctor Who episode. But no mention of the Doctor or the Daleks... I wonder what a Dalek running on Ubuntu would be like? APT GET UPDATE! APT GET UPDATE! -n The Doctor: Do it the Debian way! Use aptitude! If only I had the time, money, and knowledge, it would be so cool to build a Darlek actually running Ubuntu. Fit-pc[1], plug pc, or something like that... That and my 9 year old cousin would love it if he could make it do stuff, and record it's voice ;-) [1] http://www.fit-pc.co.uk/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Website Hacked.....
William Anderson wrote: Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: [snip] A strong password is useless if the hack was carried out using a remote file include or a vulnerability in code that was on the website to elevate permissions. From your other comments in the thread, I doubt that your netbook is compromised. I'd lay the blame at the feet of Wordpress or similar. I'd be inclined to agree here. I note you (John) are running WP 2.7.1 on furrycritters.co.uk, so the CMS itself may not be responsible, but perhaps one of the WP plugins installed, or more likely PHPBB, which is a very popular attack vector, due to the myriad of holes in the various versions of the code. [snip] We've had a few servers exploited with this one recently: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bug/387215 Luckily, as I said in the report, no-one has managed to yet go on and rootkit a box, but it's only a matter of time. If you're a host, or work in one, watch out for this one. Debian have patched it in their repos, so if you've any debian servers, make sure you use this upgrade :) Johnathon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wiki problem
Harry Rickards wrote: For me, either using my VPS (66.71.252.*** IP) or main PC (81.174.154.*** IP) the Ubuntu Wiki and Launchpad seem to time out about 2 out of 3 times. Is anyone else having the same problem, or is it just me? It timed out a couple of times for me, but it seems to have sped back up again. I guess that probably there was a break in UDS, or something... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chess Tournament? One (three, five) more player(s) wanted!
where about can i add my name i intrested Right here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ChessTournament Mailing List! Sign up here: http://mail.bluefirestorm.net/listinfo/ubu-chess Email address is ubu-ch...@mail.bluefirestorm.net Well, the games have begun, but we've currently got an uneven number of players. We can work around this, but I wanted to see if anyone else would like to join? Go on, you know you want to have a few games of chess ;) :) Johnathon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chess Tournament?
Matthew Daubney wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 10:14 +0100, Johnathon Tinsley wrote: Hello All, For any chess lovers in ubuntu-uk, would you like a tournament? Using an online correspondence chess service, like chrss.co.uk, or yahoo's online chess system? Alright chap, Just thought I'd ask how this was going. If you'd like a hand organising stuff feel free to ask :) Real Life has been getting in the way of late.. Still very interested in getting this going though... I was thinking, two weeks for each person to complete a game, points based? Would everyone be able to either add their email addresses to the wiki page, or watch it, so that we don't keep an OT discussion running around the main list? :) I can setup a mailing list just for this if you want.. (Or, if we ask really nicely, I wager so can a few others on this list :) ) Johnathon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chess Tournament?
Rik Boland wrote: Would everyone be able to either add their email addresses to the wiki page, or watch it, so that we don't keep an OT discussion running around the main list? :) where about can i add my name i intrested Right here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ChessTournament Mailing List! Sign up here: http://mail.bluefirestorm.net/listinfo/ubu-chess Email address is ubu-ch...@mail.bluefirestorm.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ctrl+alt+backspace
If you get in a situation where nowt works and X is stuck, if the keyboard still works you can always open a shell (CTL+ALT+F1to6) and kill the processes manually. If the keyboard doesn't work then you would be fskced anyway. Hard reset required (or ssh into your box from another). Magic SysRq to the rescue! You can use ALT-GR + SysRq + K to kill off X, similar (but different to CRTL-ALT-BACKSPACE) Alternatively, you can use the good old sequence, Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring, to reboot your machine. (R = take control of the keyboard, E = Terminate all processes gracefully, I = Killing any that don't terminate nicely, S = flush data to disk (no files left unwritten in RAM), U = Remount all filesystems readonly, B = reboot) Not all systems will honour the B command, but once you've got to that stage it's perfectly safe to power off, and power back on again. Using that sequence on a confused server has saved me half an hour of repairing MySQL tables before now ;) Johnathon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Chess Tournament?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, For any chess lovers in ubuntu-uk, would you like a tournament? Using an online correspondence chess service, like chrss.co.uk, or yahoo's online chess system? Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+sgEACgkQ81bUwCB/xdhz4gCg4sIPD5Eb7pc5WNSGbuMuTjow vzUAoLFUhNMsLbg+O1SET71jKaiGSxIA =CiIJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chess Tournament?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Harry Rickards wrote: Johnathon Tinsley wrote: Hello All, For any chess lovers in ubuntu-uk, would you like a tournament? Using an online correspondence chess service, like chrss.co.uk, or yahoo's online chess system? Johnathon I'm not great at chess, but I think it would be a great idea. Chrss looks like a good site, but can you actually see the chess board on the site, or do you just have to visualise it from the moves you get from the RSS feed? I'm not brilliant either ;-) This is one of my games: http://chrss.co.uk/game/1212 You can also get email alerts of new moves, if you prefer email to RSS. All moves have to be made on the site, on the chessboard you can see above :-) Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn+u+oACgkQ81bUwCB/xdiAagCdH9V9cioExeKO8zJcz8JDble2 zb4An0lW8fe5sUvZhzraLZ+qPhd69vPM =DbGX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Java app (FreeMind) installed through Synaptic -- where is it?
Hi Doug, doug livesey wrote: Jacob -- that fixed it, cheers -- and you were right about Gnome-go. Thanks, Doug. There's a bug report in launchpad about this not having a menu entry. A bit vague, but, if you go here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freemind/+bug/328568 and click the change link next to This bug doesn't affect me after logging on, you should get a notification when it gets fixed :) Johnathon 2009/2/19 Jacob Williams jacobw...@googlemail.com On 19 Feb 2009, 11:23 AM, doug livesey biot...@gmail.com wrote: Cheers, that found it. Can anyone advise me on how to get it into applications Gnome-do? Thanks, Doug. 2009/2/18 Ron Rhodes owdronrho...@tiscali.co.uk doug livesey wrote: Hi, I've installed the app FreeMind through Synaptic, so that should be... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gllug Meeting 31st January 2009
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: Greetings Gluggers, We will be having our first meeting of the year on Saturday the 31st of January, at the New Cavendish Street campus of Westminster University, starting at around 1330 hours. For those of you who haven't attended before, this is in the shadow of the BT Tower; the nearest tube stations are Great Portland Street, Warren Street and Goodge Street. You will find a map at http://www.wmin.ac.uk/cavendish/Map.htm or at http://shorterlink.org/1882 NOTE: You will need to sign in at the front desk to gain access to the building. snip Anyone else planning on heading to this meet? If you want me to forward you the full email from gllug, contact me off-list... Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmB6zcACgkQ81bUwCB/xdjoYACcDSEVRQVy52V/2MLPCRDYjxNR GGcAoPAE+97qY8IvJPRuNk7UkKUrpBn9 =E4PM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support was Sad but true? From the Register
Rob Beard wrote: On 17/01/2009 15:11, Ian Pascoe wrote: Johnathon, et al, In your post from Thursday you mention you have OpenVPN installed to provide remote access etc. In Rob's case he doesn't appear against this but worried about connections to his own private network. Do you know if you can set up an OpenVPN server on a hosting site, no direct connection to home network, but then either SSH to the OpenVPN server and thence onto the client, or through some VNC equivilant? The OpenVPN connection comes from the supportee's [see note below] computer to the server. If you set it up correctly, you can have 2 supportee's sshing directly to each other, over the VPN connection. What you really want, is to set it up so that each supportee's computer links to the central OpenVPN server (any VPS could host a VPN server), but is only accessible from the VPN server, so yes, the supporter would then SSH into the VPN server, and from there to the supportee. The caveat with this is, realistically, you'd need a user account with sudoer permissions on the supportee's computer, which would mean the supporter's would have to be trusted NOT to steal data, or muck about. Does that help / make sense? About a year or two ago, discussions were held here about providing some sort of support package from the UK loco, but got bogged down for one reason or another. This idea of setting up a hosted VPN server could be a way to provide the remote support that we were finding difficult to arrange. I briefly looked at OpenVPN quite some time ago for remote access to my brother's Windlows laptop as he was having lots of various problems - it went puff before I got any further with the idea. Anyone fancy trying to set up such a project to see if it both works and is workable? Maybe set up a server at someones place for testing purposes, and if all works well there see if those nice people at Bitfolk, or whoever does the podcast mirrors, could loan us an account for a period of time whilst trials go on? Or maybe a bit of space on a Cononical server? I may be able to get a VPS you can use, on our internal network. Alternatively, I have a relatively unused OpenVPN server already set-up, providing secure access to my work-provided hobby server. If all works out, extend the server capabilities to host an iPBX and a CRM (Customer Relationship Management) tool like SugarCRM, I think, and an instant Ubuntu Support Service is formed. Now if you really wanted to get onto the bandwagon, get a duplicate setup in the States, Europe and elsewhere connected together and hey presto! something that no one else has but is cost effective and a real boon to the Community. Hmm, better stop there, beginning to go the realms of fantasy! It'd certainly make things a lot easier to do as there wouldn't be problems with security, bandwidth or such like. If we could get free-voice comms with the supportee's, that would certainly help things. Asterisk / FreePBX? Discuss! Ian Well I think it's a good idea if it's workable. I think I may have found a solution albeit not ideal by using reverse VNC where a PC on my network listens for connections from a client's PC, something along the lines of this... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299489 I've yet to look into how to tunnel it over SSH but I'd probably implement it in a virtual machine. [note] I apologise for making up the word supportee, but I thought it might make my explaination easier, especially since we're talking about OpenVPN servers and clients... Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support was Sad but true? From the Register
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Quoting Johnathon Tinsley kir...@kirrus.co.uk: Rob Beard wrote: On 17/01/2009 15:11, Ian Pascoe wrote: Johnathon, et al, In your post from Thursday you mention you have OpenVPN installed to provide remote access etc. In Rob's case he doesn't appear against this but worried about connections to his own private network. Do you know if you can set up an OpenVPN server on a hosting site, no direct connection to home network, but then either SSH to the OpenVPN server and thence onto the client, or through some VNC equivilant? The OpenVPN connection comes from the supportee's [see note below] computer to the server. If you set it up correctly, you can have 2 supportee's sshing directly to each other, over the VPN connection. What you really want, is to set it up so that each supportee's computer links to the central OpenVPN server (any VPS could host a VPN server), but is only accessible from the VPN server, so yes, the supporter would then SSH into the VPN server, and from there to the supportee. The caveat with this is, realistically, you'd need a user account with sudoer permissions on the supportee's computer, which would mean the supporter's would have to be trusted NOT to steal data, or muck about. There would need to be legal documentation involved here. The other issue is how Ubuntu-UK indemnifies itself against the volunteer fixers. How do we know that a certain user knows enough about a certain subject to provide support? There are many many more issues that would need to be discussed before setting this up and getting it working, however I think a Proof of Concept could be a good start. Legal documentation, plus getting the OpenVPN SSH installed and configured on the supportee's machine. I think it would be worth discussing this at the meeting... What time does it start tomorrow? (Sorry, dreadful memory, and can't find it on the wiki) Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sad but true? From the Register
Simon Wears wrote: When I first switched to Ubuntu around 18 months ago, I thought it was so much easier to use that Windows. From using Windows from 6 years old (back on Win95) until I was 16, then switching to Ubuntu, I was incredibly impressed with how easy it was to use everything, considering all I had to go was click 'Internet' then 'Web Browser', and 'Office' then 'Word Processor'. That makes me think that, unless there was some 'technical' reason as to why she couldn't connect to the internet, like as said, a USB modem, she clearly didn't read anything on the menus. The thing that took me a while to get used to was applications menu being at the top of the screen. I think it would be good to promote free / open source software or Linux / Ubuntu more, so people are more aware of the differences, and how Linux works, and mostly how it isn't Windows! I've had a few friends consider switching to Ubuntu (mostly from being impressed by Compiz) and get intreseted in having free software, but the main problem they have is the lack of support avaliable to hand. They arn't fans of using forums, (and some of them don't even get what it is!) and I've moved away for university, so if something went wrong they'd be stuck. This is where I get sneaky.. I put OpenVPN on their systems, connecting in to my personal server on the internet. As their OpenVPN connects OUT, it by-passes their firewall. I then add openssh-server. If you're paranoid, you can restrict it to listen on just the VPN interface. As long as their computer is on, and connected to the internet, you can access it remotely to support them :-) Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Important: Voting Opens For Team Leader
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 massive snip *where's my badge and hat!? Thanks for the reminder - been busy and this was in danger of slipping my mind! Voted. Voted. Michael: Your badge and hat are in the storage cupboard on the right. I saw them when I put a chocolate orange away after our discussion last-year. Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkgmhIACgkQ81bUwCB/xdiCUgCgkc3+bcEkBwP8Haf/6pK1Rxju 0LMAoLIP/G0rkCw+lpzABEeo5u3Pl8F8 =DKIN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu 8.10
Hello John, They should only have been closed, if a triager asked you a question which you didn't reply to. Can you link me to the reports in question? Johnathon John wrote: Hi, thank you for your message. I have posted about 3 or 4 things to Launchpad, and none of them have been answered, I keep getting messages saying that they have been closed due to inactivity, so you will have to excuse my reluctance to post there. Its an upgrade. How can I go back to 8.04, is it easy? Thanks. John. Tony Pursell wrote: On 2 Nov 2008 at 19:53, John wrote: I posted earlier this afternoon about a problem, but not sure if it got to you, so I will post it again, hopefully it will. Its the first time I've posted on here. I tried to install 8.10 on my laptop but when the desktop tried to open, it sticks, and it wont start. I wondered if it was a problem with my laptop or if it was another problem. Can any body help please. Thank you. John. What make/model is your laptop? (These problems are often hardware related.) Is this the first time you have installed Ubuntu on it? Or was it an upgrade? If not an upgrade, how did you install it? If you do Ctrl-Alt-1, do you get a console? It would be a good idea to post this (with the sort of details above) on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu Tony signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wrong version of Firefox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Wild wrote: On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Johnathon Tinsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No change, even after removing and re-installing firefox again. How do you tell which firefox binary is fired on the command firefox? ls -l $(which firefox) Thanks! :) Using ls -l `which firefox` we worked out that we were calling the wrong binary. Out of interest, whats the difference between $(command) and `command` in bash shell? Johnathon - -- Blog: http://kirrus.co.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI051+81bUwCB/xdgRAloOAJ94gdefhP+jqgLocrIb18fSnQrcQQCfVlh9 s8zH2E/8XoUrTVARyfHekqU= =InN9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wrong version of Firefox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Greenwood wrote: | 2008/9/12 Johnathon Tinsley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Hello all, | Hi Johnathon, | | [snip] | Synaptic says it's v3.0nbsp; (screenshot attached). | In the terminal, the output of | nbsp; dpkg --list | grep -i 'fox' | is... | | iifirefox3.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.3 meta package for the | popular mozilla web bro | iinbsp; firefox-3.0 3.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.3 safe and | easy web browser from Mozilla | iifirefox-3.0-gnome-support Mozilla Firefox | ii mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb 2.0.0.7+1-0ubuntu4 Mozilla Firefox | English language/region pack | ii ubufox 0.5-0ubuntu1 Ubuntu Firefox specific configuration | | Try removing the mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb package, and see what | happens then... No change, even after removing and re-installing firefox again. How do you tell which firefox binary is fired on the command firefox? Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIzA6Z81bUwCB/xdgRAuS3AJ9R6oor1iy/a+k+iRVlRCCTB3gcsACglvLK Pjxk/wZ9gyfzQG9y/Cz3fCc= =B44N -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Debian apache2 problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jake Bunce wrote: | Maybe this would help? | http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?s=5cc3be1abd916a5963f58dba23aadb28showtopic=90598pid=597326st=0#entry597326 | http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?s=5cc3be1abd916a5963f58dba23aadb28showtopic=90598pid=597326st=0#entry597326 | No, it didn't help. I'm currently using the default settings on apache for that. The servers' now got 149 open requests, though netstat doesn't show anything significant :( Most of the open connections are getting the /feed/ directory... Johnathon | Jake | | 2008/9/12 Johnathon Tinsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Hi Jake, | | Jake Bunce wrote: | | Are you using static NAT, i.e 1-1, 80.87.131.49 | http://80.87.131.49 http://80.87.131.49 - | | 10.10.10.1 http://10.10.10.1 http://10.10.10.1 or whatever | your internal IP is and can | | | it handle the amount of translations its performing? Also if you're | | behind a shared firewall, can it handle the amount of traffic passing | | through it? Check your firewall/iptables logs where connections are | | initialized, but not followed through - TCP SYN messages from | different | | hosts but no SYN/ACK - SYN. Could indicate a DDoS attack. I had no | | trouble viewing your site though. | | | | Currently, I have no firewall - the traffic is only running through the | routers, and no NAT. I keep meaning to load up a firewall at some point, | but I'm not sure enough of shorewall's configuration to actually turn it | on. (Locking yourself out is bad). | | Apache is running on almost-default config, with a couple of tweaks for | .htaccess files. | | The box now has 13 open connections, four of which are in CLOSE_WAIT | state.. (netstat -nt) | | There's nothing showing up in the error or access logs :S | | | | | Jake | | | | 2008/9/12 Johnathon Tinsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | | Hello all, | | | | Slightly off topic.. I'm working on a debian server, which is | currently | | hosting my blog: kirrus.co.uk http://kirrus.co.uk | http://kirrus.co.uk | | | | | Unfortunately, something appears to be screwy with apache2 or | something | | - connections aren't being closed, and are just backing up. | | | | You can see this in action, if you visit the blog. Sometimes it just | | doesn't hand you all the data, and firefox sits waiting for data from | | kirrus.co.uk http://kirrus.co.uk http://kirrus.co.uk. | | | | | Apache just spawns server processes, till the RAM runs out. Then the | | kernel starts killing processes and it doesn't appear to kill the | | logical choice of apache2. | | | | I've tried pinging one of the other servers in the network, to see if | | its obviously a network problem. Out of over 20,000 pings, only 4 | | weren't replied to. Is there any better way to check the network | | infrastructure? | | | | Anyone have any other ideas of things to try? | | | | Johnathon | | | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIzBC481bUwCB/xdgRAjxpAKDK2sjTsp25spuVgDIKo6jchYvbWACghJvL oTz0HQvDzAq6ZhmZeMJk5UY= =A1MX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Wrong version of Firefox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, One of my friends has the wrong version of firefox installed on his system, and he can't seem to get the right version running. Is the wrong binary being linked by the system somehow? See the emails from him below... Johnathon - Original Message Subject: ubuntu again Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:22:09 +0100 To: Johnathon Tinsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip I had Firefox 2.0.0.12 running under Feisty.nbsp; When I upgraded to Gutsy, it stayed as Firefox 2.0.0.12 (instead of changing to version 3). (Screenshot of About Mozilla Firefox attached As far as I remember, the only 'odd' thing I ever did was have ubuntuzilla installed for a while (it's now uninstalled) Synaptic says it's v3.0nbsp; (screenshot attached). In the terminal, the output of nbsp; dpkg --list | grep -i 'fox' is... iifirefox3.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.3 meta package for the popular mozilla web bro iinbsp; firefox-3.0 3.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.3 safe and easy web browser from Mozilla iifirefox-3.0-gnome-support Mozilla Firefox ii mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb 2.0.0.7+1-0ubuntu4 Mozilla Firefox English language/region pack ii ubufox 0.5-0ubuntu1 Ubuntu Firefox specific configuration But it looks like v2 and it itself says it's version 2. It's not a high priority, as v2 does work.nbsp; But it's odd.nbsp; And I'd like to upgrade at some stage. Do you know what might be going on? 2008/9/10 Johnathon Tinsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Try opening a terminal, and uninstalling, and then re-installing firefox: sudo aptitude remove firefox sudo aptitude install firefox That should force it to, with any luck, make sure it gets the new version. Also, you could try running firefox from the command line, to see which version it boots... Let me know if that helps! Johnathon - Original Message Subject: Re: ubuntu again Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:06:21 +0100 To: Johnathon Tinsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Johnathon, I've tried both of those: It uninstalled and reinstalled happily. I've copied the terminal output below. But when I run it, it still claims it's 2.0.0.12. That's true whether I run it from the menus, or the command line. Rick. PS Here's all the terminal output: - - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude remove firefox sudo aptitude install firefox [sudo] password for rick: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initialising package states... Done Writing extended state information... Done Building tag database... Done The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED: libdbus-qt-1-1c2 libdns32 libk3b2 libnotify-bin xserver-xorg-video-amd The following packages have been kept back: brasero The following packages will be REMOVED: firefox 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 6 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 4674kB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y Writing extended state information... Done (Reading database ... 219216 files and directories currently installed.) Removing firefox ... Removing libk3b2 ... Removing libdbus-qt-1-1c2 ... Removing libdns32 ... snip The following packages have been kept back: brasero The following NEW packages will be installed: firefox 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/65.9kB of archives. After unpacking 123kB will be used. Writing extended state information... Done Selecting previously deselected package firefox. (Reading database ... 219148 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking firefox (from .../firefox_3.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.3_all.deb) ... Setting up firefox (3.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.3) ... Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree - -- Blog: http://kirrus.co.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIyixa81bUwCB/xdgRAsDbAJ4umsCLhZCLt6D8osypqNtYaMXPTACgk//z +KynJh8nuwnKr37Q6nYVpkQ= =xtCi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] OT: Debian apache2 problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, Slightly off topic.. I'm working on a debian server, which is currently hosting my blog: kirrus.co.uk Unfortunately, something appears to be screwy with apache2 or something - - connections aren't being closed, and are just backing up. You can see this in action, if you visit the blog. Sometimes it just doesn't hand you all the data, and firefox sits waiting for data from kirrus.co.uk. Apache just spawns server processes, till the RAM runs out. Then the kernel starts killing processes and it doesn't appear to kill the logical choice of apache2. I've tried pinging one of the other servers in the network, to see if its obviously a network problem. Out of over 20,000 pings, only 4 weren't replied to. Is there any better way to check the network infrastructure? Anyone have any other ideas of things to try? Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIyqcE81bUwCB/xdgRAnFgAJoCJdthupjdFgCvUqQ5MO8w0l7SNACfWcAV /4AsI7byr8LJSX232tQheY4= =ylMq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Debian apache2 problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jake, Jake Bunce wrote: | Are you using static NAT, i.e 1-1, 80.87.131.49 http://80.87.131.49 - | 10.10.10.1 http://10.10.10.1 or whatever your internal IP is and can | it handle the amount of translations its performing? Also if you're | behind a shared firewall, can it handle the amount of traffic passing | through it? Check your firewall/iptables logs where connections are | initialized, but not followed through - TCP SYN messages from different | hosts but no SYN/ACK - SYN. Could indicate a DDoS attack. I had no | trouble viewing your site though. | Currently, I have no firewall - the traffic is only running through the routers, and no NAT. I keep meaning to load up a firewall at some point, but I'm not sure enough of shorewall's configuration to actually turn it on. (Locking yourself out is bad). Apache is running on almost-default config, with a couple of tweaks for .htaccess files. The box now has 13 open connections, four of which are in CLOSE_WAIT state.. (netstat -nt) There's nothing showing up in the error or access logs :S | Jake | | 2008/9/12 Johnathon Tinsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Hello all, | | Slightly off topic.. I'm working on a debian server, which is currently | hosting my blog: kirrus.co.uk http://kirrus.co.uk | | Unfortunately, something appears to be screwy with apache2 or something | - connections aren't being closed, and are just backing up. | | You can see this in action, if you visit the blog. Sometimes it just | doesn't hand you all the data, and firefox sits waiting for data from | kirrus.co.uk http://kirrus.co.uk. | | Apache just spawns server processes, till the RAM runs out. Then the | kernel starts killing processes and it doesn't appear to kill the | logical choice of apache2. | | I've tried pinging one of the other servers in the network, to see if | its obviously a network problem. Out of over 20,000 pings, only 4 | weren't replied to. Is there any better way to check the network | infrastructure? | | Anyone have any other ideas of things to try? | | Johnathon | - -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIyqtv81bUwCB/xdgRAuJbAJ4hJgUs0yHtoXlUNCwC7xnpU4TpQACgu2rm +Cpb3SusK93/MGKPu9FNE6A= =jl3W -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] webmin, was Ubuntu RAID Management
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Westby wrote: | On Sat, 2008-08-23 at 21:17 +0100, Johnathon Tinsley wrote: | Its absence is deliberate, and its not licensing related. Webmin plays | with the config files of programs it alters in nasty ways. I don't know | the specifics, but both Ubuntu Debian refuse to package it. | | Hi, | | I think Alan is more correct. It was removed simply as the maintainer | had no time for it, and no-one else has stepped up to maintain it. | | It certainly does have the reputation of being bad in Debian and Ubuntu | though, perhaps with reason. | | When the server team was quite recently looking for something like | webmin to provide, one of the developers spent some time looking for | evidence to back this claim up. They couldn't find anything. If you | know of any then please could you pass it on to me so I can forward it? | I imagine they would like to have evidence of why they are using | ebox instead of webmin. | Webmin does appear to introduce instabilities into the systems during dist upgrade. However, it can probably be patched up quite easily, if a maintainer devs decided to work on it. All I've seen as I've spent half an hour looking round google searches for this one, is that it doesn't use the debian way of doing things, which makes it a bit more unstable. The other problem I've seen with this, is when a customer is using webmin, to add apache vhosts, when they've got a non-standard setup in apache. That caused apache to belm for a while.. Johnathon | Thanks, | | James | | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIsyzt81bUwCB/xdgRAsaXAKDkC9rCGCIZtBn4CvhANdD9x/bbWgCeKVgA x2qtMp9Kg1Ie8MDO2lz6S4k= =W+3f -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] webmin, was Ubuntu RAID Management
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Westby wrote: | On Sat, 2008-08-23 at 21:17 +0100, Johnathon Tinsley wrote: | Its absence is deliberate, and its not licensing related. Webmin plays | with the config files of programs it alters in nasty ways. I don't know | the specifics, but both Ubuntu Debian refuse to package it. | | Hi, | | I think Alan is more correct. It was removed simply as the maintainer | had no time for it, and no-one else has stepped up to maintain it. | | It certainly does have the reputation of being bad in Debian and Ubuntu | though, perhaps with reason. | | When the server team was quite recently looking for something like | webmin to provide, one of the developers spent some time looking for | evidence to back this claim up. They couldn't find anything. If you | know of any then please could you pass it on to me so I can forward it? | I imagine they would like to have evidence of why they are using | ebox instead of webmin. | | Thanks, | | James | | You might find this thread helpful: http://groups.google.com/group/coloco/browse_thread/thread/321fcdaecde25b44 Has one of your devs talking in it... Hope I've helped rather than hindered :S Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIsy2A81bUwCB/xdgRAjd+AKCJECoOVmbN+GxFggO69j/dYRAsjgCcC+pv RH1oA8joGmMXAtqGqWqANsc= =rwKh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] webmin, was Ubuntu RAID Management
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello | | I dunno really, I just stopped using it back in the days of redhat 7, and | have never touched it since. I guess that since it's not been packaged in | Ubuntu or Debian for a long time meant I just didn't think fo using it. I | kinda assumed others didn't use it either. | | | OK. So it wasn't that you discovered a serious problem. Phew! :-) | | (Do you think its absence from the Debian/Ubuntu repos is 'cos it's | released under a BSD licence and not GPL?) | Its absence is deliberate, and its not licensing related. Webmin plays with the config files of programs it alters in nasty ways. I don't know the specifics, but both Ubuntu Debian refuse to package it. Unfortunately (at work) there is nothing anywhere near it in features of usablilty, so we have to use it. Its ok, inthe most part, but you can't use it to setup a complex site. Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIsHBG81bUwCB/xdgRAmYcAKDFCFRYPcHTRTb28OBzWPohBlIhoQCguq7X w0MT1rVoNKjbklL0tD0W8W4= =GypA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] webmin, was Ubuntu RAID Management
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Pope wrote: | On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 09:17:10PM +0100, Johnathon Tinsley wrote: | Its absence is deliberate, and its not licensing related. Webmin plays | with the config files of programs it alters in nasty ways. I don't know | the specifics, but both Ubuntu Debian refuse to package it. | | | O RLY? Where'd you hear that? | | These bug reports from debian indicate it's not the case. The last post here: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2873 I did see it on one of the dev lists but I'm not going to dig around for it now :) | | http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2006/01/msg00124.html | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343897 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=271505 | | Unfortunately (at work) there is nothing anywhere near it in features of | usablilty, so we have to use it. | | What's wrong with ssh and nano :) Nano!? Ugh, I'm a vim guy ;) I never have been able to get on with nano. It feels too... I don't know. ?Annoying maybe? I can't put my finger on it. We don't use webmin for ourselves. Customers, unfortunately, don't want to learn how to maintain their servers without a nice GUI front end :( The smart ones run apt-get remove webmin after getting their servers ;) Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIsHRS81bUwCB/xdgRAnxQAKDrHolnqfVPDu+JdlG6K1d9XhpB+gCfUntV iLIQrLs3HIPQgckGFEBUdmc= =g0pR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advanced vi/vim command - commenting out a large section
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 DarkOtter wrote: It's a little bit hacky, but the way I do that is to do a substitute with the 'start of line' token in the regexp. That way you can use a standard vim range e.g. 1,10 to do lines 1 to 11 EDIT: I forgot, if you want to do a range from the current cursor position you can do it as '.,+x' where x is the number of lines after the one you're on. e.g. ':.,+4s/^/# /' would comment out the line you're on and the four after it. snip Thanks for all the suggestions! I'll try them out next time I have to comment out some stuff :) Johnathon - -- Blog: http://kirrus.co.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIq/8681bUwCB/xdgRAgvPAKDMyq2EDLW+x72zSbkqCj9W0+/I/wCg6T1r ChYFK4OGbLWkJq/dnJmGDQc= =o3z0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Advanced vi/vim command - commenting out a large section
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, We sometimes need to quickly comment out a, for example, vhost config in vi. Now, I've worked out that you can add the first comment #, ESC and then hit DOWN, FULL-STOP, DOWN, FULL-STOP etc to quickly comment out multiple lines. But, what I'd love, is a way I can type say 11 command and get it to turn 11 lines into a comment. Does anyone know of a nice way to do that in vim? Johnathon - -- Blog: http://kirrus.co.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIqaAU81bUwCB/xdgRAmDVAJ4oOqTPsaPBtUesRSuWsCOJwjHU5QCg31Jf OMEgENYwm0bIyBH7pyw27FI= =+hXg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Ubuntu Wiki] Update of UKTeam/MeetingNotes/20071118Meeting by PhilWyett
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dean Sas wrote: | On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 05:06, Ubuntu Wiki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Dear Wiki user, | | You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on Ubuntu Wiki for change notification. | | The following page has been changed by PhilWyett: | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/MeetingNotes/20071118Meeting | | The comment on the change is: | Wiki clean. Obsolete page. | | Why are meeting archives for the ubuntu-uk team being deleted? It's | hardly as if Canonical are crying out for the few kilobytes of disk | space each takes up. It wasn't really deleted ... the history was still there. I've reverted it for you. Doesn't look like there was much content there to begin with :) Johnathon | | Dean | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFInMJR81bUwCB/xdgRAvBVAJ4+OZ5R72DfUrCt4xPvB/x4VA0moACfWgPc oY2ajv4J9Y0eYiJRvlR1ukU= =8mQv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 matt wrote: | | | | The other option that is worth considering is the Pembury pub in London. | We | could go there on either Sat or Sun or both during the day. They have | Wifi | and plenty of space to set out laptops and jam. | | Discuss... | | Cheers, | Al. | | Having checked the train times (and costs) I'm not adverse to the | Saturday (quite up for it in fact). I'm helping the missus at a car boot on | the sunday, so wouldn't be able to attend then. | I'm interested! Saturday would be better for me, normally head to church on a Sunday :) Prefer anywhere within london, preferably south-west ish way (London Victoria ish), but not too fussed if its elsewhere, as long its a tube-able journey :) Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIj3hl81bUwCB/xdgRAnkxAKCHttWnXVYAltNxOV8bTgQAHHWctwCg6WA8 9K9nT1e4EObUS6k9i972oA8= =Nr6A -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Training / Books
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Walker wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 21:09 +0100, Johnathon Tinsley wrote: Hello all, This may be better placed on gllug.. but I'll try here first :) Do any of you know of a good company that does short-course training on stuff like DNS, bash, networking, etc, preferably in London? SNIP Hi Johnathon, I can't recommend a modern book.. but when you do find one, will it be the same one you said that you would review at the release party? :) Heh, I'll have to buy it first, but if you want me to... - -- Blog: http://kirrus.co.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIfx1Y81bUwCB/xdgRAlKDAKDR3o3GnMOAGzStuHL1y2sBWR6+XgCeLW2a r906KUF3ttZcmiT98xTg0Zk= =f550 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Training / Books
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, This may be better placed on gllug.. but I'll try here first :) Do any of you know of a good company that does short-course training on stuff like DNS, bash, networking, etc, preferably in London? Also, what books would recommend for someone who needs to learn more about DNS, bash scripting and networking? (networking - I need a basics-intermediate book. I understand most of the really basic stuff, like loopbacks, IPv4 addressing etc, but not how TCP/IP works, etc...) Also, a good up-to-date Apache reference manual might not go amiss... Thanks in advance! Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIflVn81bUwCB/xdgRAmmGAKDN/oD9kEmomfUScIxPvHeHgxlLzQCgumjb a53lAmNScrPMgNK1PFVTBu4= =rLYi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] News for the podcast
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Pope wrote: | Hi all, | | We'll be recording episode 10 of the Ubuntu UK Podcast shortly. Have any | of you seen any Ubuntu/Linux/FLOSS related news recently that we might | want to include or talk about? Maybe a easily-understandable version of what the DNS flaw was, and how it has been fixed... Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIdnDP81bUwCB/xdgRAqybAKCO/WgrIsDpiKCRGpgsur4JvzmD2gCg7bX5 LZ8e2uhBFjG3FDhXdNKbnDk= =N9dp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] drawing programme
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Caroline, London School of Puppetry wrote: | Hi there can anyone advise me on a drawing programme using a stylus that | I can use with Hardy Heron- and tell me where I can get it. Thanks. | Caroline Have you tried GIMP? Its installed by default. Applications Graphics GIMP Image Editor Kind regards, Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIbUB181bUwCB/xdgRAjU+AJ9k6o8H+dujbaNxa/W3g8we8X5ArwCgxtce 6nNpetuckcL0Mq8H+Xhpo8I= =RO4k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philip Stubbs wrote: | 2008/6/25 James Milligan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | Good idea - same view as you. Perhaps we could have a page where we could | say what episode we're doing, and maybe the timing (e.g from start to 5 mins | in...). Also be useful for posting the transcripts so others can edit them | as well if there are any mistakes (which there won't, of course ;-) | | Does Ubuntu-UK have a wiki that we could add a page to? I could set | one up on my home server if there is nothing else, but It would make | more sense to be in the same place as the podcasts. | Yes, the Ubuntu-UK team has space on the main Ubuntu Wiki. I've added a page for this particular idea here, but feel free to add more pages. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/IdeasPool/UK_Podcast_Transcription HTH Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIYp8G81bUwCB/xdgRApCaAKDBaLiUaCGjMudhpuJ9HZvYVb0/qQCeNJ9M /76trCuwPw5kTcfTKBYRwaA= =ir1V -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubucon Status
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Levin wrote: | Alan Pope wrote: | On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 09:10:55PM +0100, Johnathon Tinsley wrote: | I remember there was talk of and a wiki page setup for, a Ubucon run by | us a while back. Is anyone in charge of that project and if so, whats | the status of it? | | After the initial discussion I dont think anything happened. | | Cheers, | Al. | | | Or nothing has happened yet. :) | | The main change in circumstances is that there will now be a linux expo | in London this autumn; I originally suggested the idea to fill in the | gap left by the corporates. As it is, it will still be corporate, but | there will be an .org village. | snip | | Could I suggest that - in order for things not to stall as they did last | time - we add ubucon uk to the agenda for the next ubuntu-uk meeting, | and hold a face to face meeting about it at Linux Radio Live? | I think that for things not to stall, then we need someone to basically take charge of all the required organisation and start checking on people who want to be involved, as well as handing out tasks for people to do. (Like looking up how much a venue would cost, finding out if anyone would be willing to sponsor it to help cover the cost etc..) That person can't be me: I have not the time (as shown by the lateness of this response!) as well as not having nearly enough experience or wisdom required to organise something like this... Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFISvvp81bUwCB/xdgRAmLiAJ9xPQ2A8A5p0ueTBwLQ9sHy5tTN4wCg7sBq GSQUAJNNsZF/Crx3rj6u4qw= =+lOk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Spotting
Matt Daubney wrote: Today I saw someone walking out of the Uni with a Hardy Heron shirt. Does that count? I saw someone walking through Victoria tube station wearing an Ubuntu polo shirt this morning... does that count? :) Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Linux Expo WAS Re: Ubucon Status
John Levin wrote: Alan Pope wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 09:10:55PM +0100, Johnathon Tinsley wrote: I remember there was talk of and a wiki page setup for, a Ubucon run by us a while back. Is anyone in charge of that project and if so, whats the status of it? After the initial discussion I dont think anything happened. Cheers, Al. Or nothing has happened yet. :) The main change in circumstances is that there will now be a linux expo in London this autumn; I originally suggested the idea to fill in the gap left by the corporates. As it is, it will still be corporate, but there will be an .org village. There's going to be a Linux Expo? Is linuxworld finally back from whatever death it suffered last year/this spring? Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubucon Status
Hello, I remember there was talk of and a wiki page setup for, a Ubucon run by us a while back. Is anyone in charge of that project and if so, whats the status of it? Best regards, Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting London School of Puppetry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/5/10 Michael G Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: London School of Puppetry wrote: Hi there I am about to buy a new laptop- I was told that Dell do one with Hardy Heron already installed. Is this ok, oe should I get one with nothing then put HH onto it. I suppose this is just -- -basic advice I need. Caroline London School of Puppetry www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com http://www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com The guys at LUGradio did a review of the dell one, the XPS M1330 and seemed very chuffed with it. http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1330?c=ukl=ens=dhscs=ukdhs1~oid=uk~en~202~may_xpsnb_m1330_ubuntu_n05x3315~~http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1330?c=ukl=ens=dhscs=ukdhs1%7Eoid=uk%7Een%7E202%7Emay_xpsnb_m1330_ubuntu_n05x3315%7E%7E There is also efficientpc http://efficientpc.co.uk/laptops/anubis/ And an American company (not sure about the shipping costs) http://system76.com/index.php?cPath=28 --Hi there thanks for your help- is Gutsy what I should be asking for- not Hardy? Sorry I'm so ignorant- also I looked for the XPS M1330 and it seemed to only have Windows on it. --- London School of Puppetry www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com http://dell.co.uk/ubuntu I am pretty sure system76 won't ship outside of the states. Mj They will, I've asked them before about it. It'll have an American power supply, so you'll need a converter (or to buy a compatible one from ebay or somewhere...). I couldn't be bothered with the hassle, so decided not to bother, but if they ever start supplying the UK officially, they'll be number one on my list... Kind Regards, Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jobs
- Andy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 04:34:22AM +0100, Kris Douglas wrote: A little early for you Isn't it Andy? Three days off the dayjob and my body clock goes all Australian.. Cheers, Andy Thanks all who helped, I was offered, and accepted, a job at Positive Internet this afternoon. Johnathon p.s. (Daviey- you may not have to pay for that Ubuntu book after all... I've not forgotten ;)... send me the name of the book you want reviewed... ) -- Blog: http://kirrus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] show of hands.. was: 8.04 Ubuntu release party - London - 24th April
- Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 09:29 +0100, Kat Kinnie wrote: Stick it in your diary and feel free to bring along friends and family too, the more the merrier. You can see it on the wiki page for Ubuntu release parties https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties Show of hands... Who's going to this? o/ I plan on trying to.. if my innate nervousness at meeting lots of new people doesn't get the better of me :S o/ Johnathon -- Blog: http://kirrus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Hardy Release Party (De Hems)
I'm planning on ?driving? up on Thursday. Anyone in the Epsom/Ewell/Banstead/Sutton ish area want a lift? Also, would you recommend public transport? (Obviously, if I'm driving, I'm tee-total...) Johnathon -- Blog: http://kirrus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Release Party (De Hems)
- Andy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Johnathon, On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 11:15:49AM +0100, Johnathon Tinsley wrote: I'm planning on ?driving? up on Thursday. Anyone in the Epsom/Ewell/Banstead/Sutton ish area want a lift? Also, would you recommend public transport? (Obviously, if I'm driving, I'm tee-total...) I would recommend public transport, although I don't know exactly where you are coming from. 17.50 from Sutton station to Waterloo then tube to Leicester Square gets you to De Hems for about 7pm. Cheers, Andy Cheers.. Just a quick aside, I forgot to post this.. if you're looking for public transport to the pub, and are close to London, then this site is really handy: http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk Johnathon -- Blog: http://kirrus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Graphics Card Problems
- Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: X is crashing. Take a look in (should be) /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, hopefully it may give some error output. Put that file on pastebin or somewhere, and send us the link. Matthew http://pastebin.com/m170839ea - /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old directly after opening GE. It does seem to be mentioning things about 3D drivers and 3D performance. Hope that helps. Thanks for the reply! How did you install your graphics driver? Envy, restricted driver manager, or a different way? Johnathon -- Blog: http://kirrus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Graphics Card Problems
- Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last Christmas, one of Santa's elves made a mistake. Instead of buying a Linux-ready graphics card to give to Craig Horner for Christmas, he brought him an ATI Radeon X1550, which so far, has been extremely annoying. I have managed to set it up so that it works as far as running Compiz using this tutorial [1]. It works for that, but whenever I try to run certain programs which I used to be able to run before the new graphics card, such as Unreal Tournament GOTY, Jazz Jack Rabbit 2, Google Earth etc, it just ends the current session and takes me back to the log in page. Is it literally *snap*, back to the login screen every time you run a opengl-heavy program? Is there a bug report about this on launchpad? (If you don't know, say and I'll go looking for one...) Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?
- Farran Lee wrote: ... it also reckons I have no updates, but it's been at least two months since I last went on the net :/ Open a terminal, and run sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y That will check for updates, and upgrade them (without asking if you really want to upgrade them). I wouldn't reccomend you run this on a hardy box (I always check what is going to get updated...) but apart from that it should be fine. Kind Regards, Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?
- Farran Lee wrote: sorry, didn't realise :/ here's the pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7295/ From the looks of that (and I've not had too much practise looking at logs) there's a lot of ata exceptions... which makes me think harddrive... might be worth stress testing your hard-drive... There are utilities you can use to do that on the Ultimate Boot CD (as well as scan for viruses, stress-test your cpu and ram...) thinking about it, might be worth stress-testing your cpu as well. (Be CAREFUL with stress testers.) You can get a copy of the UBCD here: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ HTH, Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)
- Farran Lee wrote: not as far as I know - I'm only just getting to grips with the hardware side of computing. Is it obvious? Does the mb just not boot at all? I've seen it once, when the capacators fail on a motherboard, its pretty much useless. You can tell, by if they bulge at the top, and sometimes leak some brown/orange residue (DON'T TOUCH!) Apparently, there was some industrial sabotage a few years back (2000 ish I think) which affected a whole bunch of capacators used on motherboards... though this is quite rare... Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast Episode 2 recording this weekend.
- Alistair Crust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 13:08 +, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Kris, On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:30:13PM +, Kris Douglas wrote: What kind of content can we expect to see? Audio mostly, but possibly gaseous and heat components from Mr Pope. Cheers, Andy You know what could be really nice? at the end of every podcast (or at a time between shows) a small summary of whats up in the next issue posted to the site. This idea comes from two places. Firstly Linux Format does this in their magazine, nothing too detailed just rough headliners for next month issue. Secondly raves, if you've ever been to one (Most of you won't) they tend to have people giving out flyers to forthcoming events with a list of music styles and DJ's (Monotonous Boom Boom Boom is not a style! lol) giving ravers the chance to know whats coming up and if they fancy going. This could also help to generate more feedback/suggestions on the content before it's finally recorded, edited and cast in digital stone (as it were). Just an idea though. Firstly, Happy birthday (though, if its you in irc, I've already said it!) Secondly, from experience, podcasts tend to be more of a seat-of-your-pants thrown together at-the-last-minute affair... There tends to be lots of planning, editing and clip collection, but not far enough in the past that you'll know what'll be in the next one. Might be worth posting on the site as and when you know what will be, but it probably won't go into the podcast itself... Kind Regards, Kirrus -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Funds Work for Photoshop on Linux
- Gavin Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 09:51:24PM +, Jai Harrison wrote: Is this is what the effects of a difficult user interface in the GIMP are? I really like the interface on The GIMP and it does everything I need, but there are some features that photographers working in print need that the GIMP doesn't yet have. Why google are spending money on WINE and Photoshop rather than adding those features to GIMP I don't know. It would seem to me that adding these features to GIMP would provide them to everyone for free forever, while propping up WINE+Photoshop is only good for owners of the current version of Photoshop. By design, WINE is complete when it can replicate and translate all of windows programming system signals. By doing this, google will make the entire WINE base a bit more stable, rather than less, which means this will probably help many more programs become more compatible than just Photoshop. Johnathon -- Blog: http://www.kirrus.co.uk UK Plone Hosting: http://www.plone-hosting.co.uk RPG: Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5. http://ds5.brisub.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mobile internet proxy
You can make apache act as a web proxy, using the mod_proxy extention. Obviously, you have to be careful with your configuration, as spammers like using open proxies. You can then use the standard compression module for apache, and that should do what you're after... HTH Johnathon - Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not quite sure if this comes under 'off-topic' or not. If it does, I apologise in advance and please feel free to slap my writes! I've been pondering upon the possibility of setting up a vps as a mobile internet proxy. It would be good to add image transcoding (to reduce the size of images on the fly before serving to mobile internet) and also on the fly gzip content encoding compression to reduce the size of html etc. Has anyone come across this before in practice? I've hunted around google for info, and although I've found this squid patch - http://devel.squid-cache.org/gzip/ for the gzip stuff I don't know how well it's implemented (in cvs only by the look of it) and I can't seem to find anything on image transcoding. If anyone has any info I'm all ears :-) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- Blog: http://www.kirrus.co.uk UK Plone Hosting: http://www.plone-hosting.co.uk RPG: Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5. http://ds5.brisub.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] change of email address
- Ciaran Mooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will need to sign up again to the mailing list from the new email address. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk Ciarán -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Nope, easier than that ;) Go here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk Scroll to the bottom of the page, enter your email address into the box to the left of the button that says Unsubscribe or edit options Click the button Enter the password that you set when you signed up to the list (you can use a reminder if you want) You can now change your address in the top-left two fields, just enter the new email address, and click Change address and name. HTH, Johnathon -- Blog: http://www.kirrus.co.uk UK Plone Hosting: http://www.plone-hosting.co.uk RPG: Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5. http://ds5.brisub.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] change of email address
I beleive she wants to change her FORUM address to the new email, slaughter me if i'm wrong, but that's what the E-mail says.. Ok, well, heres some instructions for the Ubuntu forums: Log-on, then click on User CP, then click on User Control Panel. There's a long list of links on the left hand side, look down and click on the one that says Edit Email Password. Enter your password at the top of the field (where it says Enter your present password to continue), and then change your email address in both of the bottom fields (If you don't want to change your password, leave the New Password fields blank) Then click Save Changes HTH (again ;)) Johnathon -- Blog: http://www.kirrus.co.uk UK Plone Hosting: http://www.plone-hosting.co.uk RPG: Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5. http://ds5.brisub.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Triaging - German
- Ciaran Mooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Afternoon, I've just dipped my toe into bug triaging for ubuntu and came across this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wireless-tools/+bug/151929. The original comment was difficult to understand and I asked for a clarification, the reply came back from the user but in German. Could someone translate it for me, and post it here or on Launchpad? Hello, You might find someone to do the translation in the #ubuntu-de channel on IRC... Kind Regards, Johnathon -- Blog: http://www.kirrus.co.uk UK Plone Hosting: http://www.plone-hosting.co.uk RPG: Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5. http://ds5.brisub.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] - MS XP Pro OEM CD - How?
- Pete Stean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have valid licence keys, personally I don't see a problem. After all, the *licence* is what MS charge you for, *not the media*. In fact, I have a slip-streamed XP install disc that I made myself that incorporates service pack 2, and you'll even find tips on MS's own site on how to create one... hardly something they'd talk about if they thought that act was illegal [btw it makes my blood boil when people use 'illegal' when talking about this stuff. When was the last time someone served jail time stuck in a cell with murderers and child molesters because they did a one-off copy of some windows software for their own use? Yeah, quite...] The fact that no-one has been prosecuted for it, does not make it illegal. Downloading, for example, Command and Conquer for the PC via torrent is illegal. That won't stop people doing it. The slip-streaming is designed for businesses, who are maintaining 50 machines at once, so a slipstreamed disc or remote installation procedure is very, very handy. I know someone who is serving time for downloading movies via torrent. 5 years to be exact, without chance of parole. As has been suggested before, go read Microsoft's End User Licence Agreement before saying that its ok. As for media, talk to Microsoft. They're not all ogres, much as some of their departments might act like it. I would suggest that this topic be ended here, unless the OP has any further questions: it is illegal, leave it at that. Regards, Johnathon -- Blog: http://www.kirrus.co.uk UK Plone Hosting: http://www.plone-hosting.co.uk RPG: Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5. http://ds5.brisub.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] - MS XP Pro OEM CD - How?
- Pete Stean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johnathon Tinsley said I know someone who is serving time for downloading movies via torrent. 5 years to be exact, without chance of parole. That would definitely have made the news - care to share? Nope. I like and respect this person, and I'm not going to identify them, or give more details. -- Blog: http://www.kirrus.co.uk UK Plone Hosting: http://www.plone-hosting.co.uk RPG: Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5. http://ds5.brisub.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server - sys req?
- Eddie Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am considering setting up a home server for streaming audio/file sharing etc and as a learning environment (for me to learn server-related stuff) . I have looked on the Ubuntu site but can't find the system requirements for Ubuntu Server. Does anybody know what they are? I have an old PIII or I can use a Pentium 4 if necessary. I would like to put XFCE on there in case I need a GUI at some stage Does this sound reasonable? TIA Eddie I've run Ubuntu Server on a PI before, so thats fine! (Looking at using it as networked file storage box. Unfortunately, the hardware decided not to play ball, but it ran ok) XFCE, PIII would work, but I'd recommend using the P4 if you can spare it. Otherwise, try and use plain Ubuntu Server, without a GUI. You can always ask here or in IRC for help if you get stuck. HTH, Johnathon -- Blog: http://www.kirrus.co.uk UK Plone Hosting: http://www.plone-hosting.co.uk RPG: Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5. http://ds5.brisub.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Skype 2.0 beta
- Greg K Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 17:38 +, Mark Fraser wrote: I've just done a package update and found I had 2 updates for Skype. When I loaded it I noticed it was version 2.0 (beta), which means webcam support :) Tried it with my Logitech webcam and it detects it, just need to do a live test now. Is it still using a proprietary protocol? Yup Johnathon -- Blog: http://www.kirrus.co.uk UK Plone Hosting: http://www.plone-hosting.co.uk RPG: Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5. http://ds5.brisub.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 26, Issue 18
snip Is there any easy way to do this? (I can find one) Thanks in advance, Johnathon I'm an idiot.. I meant Can't not can... One of these days, I'll remember to proof read every email before I send it... Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Free Phone support - linux.co.uk (Was Face to Face support on the Ohio)
Hello This went up on linux.co.uk today. Its commercial only, so probably trying to find more customers, but it is free support... Free telephone support for Commercial UK Linux Users - 0845 25 77033, 9am-5pm weekdays [ You pay the cost of the phone call! Calling 0845 from a UK land-line is ~ local rate] What do you think? Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Free Phone support - linux.co.uk (Was Face to Face support on the Ohio)
Sorry for the almost duplicate emails... Evolution is both too smart and too dumb at times! :S Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Phone support (linux.co.uk)
Hello, I saw that notice went up on linux.co.uk recently: Free telephone support for Commercial UK Linux Users - 0845 25 77033, 9am-5pm weekdays [ You pay the cost of the phone call! Calling 0845 from a UK land-line is ~ local rate] It seems to be commercial only, but thought you might like to see that someone is offering phone support. Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] noika usb file transfer
I've got a Nokia 6288, I can browse the files on it from Ubuntu but when I try to copy pictures from the phone to my laptop it takes ages and times out and the phone unmounts well before the file is copied. .. Doing a quick google I found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/102965 Have you tried this under 7.04 (feisty fawn)? Can you submit a new bug about this on Launchpad? Thanks Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Forums
Hey there - thanks for the welcome ;-) I'd tend to agree with you. It'd be great if the mailing list stuff could get shunted to a forum too. I know a couple of LUG's that do that. I suppose it's all pretty dependent on who you want to attract to a discussion. Personally, I find email lists annoying. I get so many emails, status alerts, web-design mailing list etc already, I really don't need anymore. I prefer Forums, if just because I'm much more at home in them. If I want to know when someone has replied, I'll use the reply notification. It means, I only get emails on subjects I'm interested in/can help with, whereas there is quite a lot of traffic on this list that doesn't concern me, which has me hitting the delete key quite a lot, even with the list in digest mode. A forum/list gateway would be good. I guess the real question to ask now, is will it ever happen? Also, some of the rules of mailing lists elude me still. Can someone tell me what top posting is, and what I need to do? Regards, Kirrus -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
