Re: [ubuntu-uk] Booting to ubuntu with VM, for now -- advice needed
On 11 May at 1:15, doug livesey biot...@gmail.com wrote: Hi -- so this is being typed from an Ubuntu VM under Mac OSX. I've given up the hope of dual-booting for now -- maybe I'll try again sometime later with 10.04. However, I have 8 gig RAM on my MBP, yet seem only to be able to assign less than 4 gig to my ubuntu image in VirtualBox -- I'm guessing because VirtualBox isn't clever enough to figure out that I have two modules (both report okay in Snow Leopard). Is it possible to run a VM that has access to the majority (or, potentially, all) of your processor and RAM? Is there a better tool than VirtualBox that would allow me to do this? I don't want to get too invested in this image if there's a better way to do it out there. VMWare Fusion will provide slightly more. Here I have one partition running with 4 cores, out of the 8 on the MacPro, though it says I can use up to 8. Further I can use up to 5.5 GBytes before, they say, 'if higher, memory swapping may occur'. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Losing wireless Connection - off topic
On 16 Apr at 19:40, Graham Smith myotis...@gmail.com wrote: Barry There is a known problem with the Broadcom BCM 4132 wi-fi chipset with certain Belkin routers. The problem is certain to show with the Belkin F6D4230-4 v1. When I first experienced it, I went out and bought one to see if the problem is repeatable - it is! Thanks, but the router is a Draytek and all has worked perfectly for the last 3 years, its just the last few weeks I've been having the problem. I have a Draytek Vigor 2820 Vn and for some months now it has been getting more problematical with wireless networking. Ten yards (metres, furlongs, cubits, whatever you are happy with) away the other day it was fascinating to see the signal strength wax and wane on a portable; nothing was being moved at that time. Other client machines show similar problems. The printer in this rooms sometimes just will not do its wireless connection to the router also in this room. The usual way to get things going again is to power-cycle the router. I think the router is about to be routed to that graveyard in the sky, though it might be worth while having a word with Draytek first. I have tried changing the frequency but no difference. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) Beta 2 Released
On 14 Apr at 21:25, Kate Stewart kate.stew...@canonical.com wrote: The Ubuntu team is pleased to announce the release of Ubuntu 11.04 Beta 2. snip To upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 Beta 2 from Ubuntu 10.10, follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades On that site there are these instructions: 2. If you are upgrading from 10.10: 1. Open the Update Manager application from the System → Administration menu. 2. In Update Manager, click the Settings... button, and enter your password to start the Software Sources application. 3. Select the sub menu Updates from the Software Sources application. 4. Check the Release upgrade - Show new distribution releases drop down to make sure Normal releases is selected, and change it if otherwise. 5. Close the Software Sources application and return to Update Manager. 3. In Update Manager, click the Check button to check for new updates. 4. If there are any updates to install, use the Install Updates button to install them, and press Check again after that is complete. 5. A message will appear informing you of the availability of the new release. I have got three all the above instructions except the last, number 5. No Message appears, not even when I leave the machine on overnight. I am running Ubuntu 10.10 on a VMWare partition on a Mac Pro. I have looked at the VMWare mailing lists to see if anyone else has had this problem, but no mention. I think this problem has been around on my machine for a couple of years as I definitely remember being able to do version upgrades in the past. More recently I have had to do complete fresh installs, losing everything on my previous version. Has anyone else had this problem? -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) Beta 2 Released
On 15 Apr at 12:37, Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com wrote: On 15/04/11 12:31, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: On 14 Apr at 21:25, Kate Stewartkate.stew...@canonical.com wrote: snip on inability to upgrade to Beta 2 Has anyone else had this problem? I think those will be the instructions when it is released. If I had quoted the whole of Kate Stewart's release, you would have seen she wrote: To upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 Beta 2 from Ubuntu 10.10 Right now it is not released, so won't be offered to you. If you run update-manager -d from the command line it should offer you the development release. You were right! Kate's instructions need extending to include this or the easier instruction for cowboys of do Alt-F2 then enter that command. Before doing this, I would have to add: Close the Update Manager if it is open The upgrade is now away for the next 50 minutes, though my impatience has lost me the overnight, no charge, slot. Many thanks for your help. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] scanning old photographs
On 30 Aug at 12:33, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 10:34:20 +0100 Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org wrote: I have been asked to help a local historical society to digitise a collection of old photographs and documents and my old flatbed scanner will not be good enough for this project. I am not interested in speed or copying slides but would like an optical resolution of, say, 600 pixels per inch. Naturally, I have looked at what is for sale but I believe there is nothing better that a personal recommendation. Your suggestions will be very much appreciated. Norman Surprised you’ve got no responses to this. Why will your old scanner not be good enough? I use a 10+ year old Agfa Snapscan 1212µ for this sort of thing with out any problems. I'm not sure the problem has been fully appreciated. Let's say that the objective is to obtain slides that will print well on A4 paper. Printing needs at least 300 dots per inch for adequate clarity, some can easily see that 600 dots per inch is better and is barely pixellated ('dotted'). If you need 600 dots per inch on the print, then double the following figures. A4 printed in portrait mode is 10 inches wide, so the file image must be 3000 pixels wide. The OP says he wishes to scan slides. So he must produce file images that are at least 3000 pixels across on the shorter dimension. My memory is that slides are on 35 mm film and this is the shorter dimension. 35mm is 1.4ins (to the nearest tenth). So the scanner must produce 3000 pixels from this 1.4 ins, which is 2,100 dots per inch. So I conclude that an old scanner very definitely will not be good enough. Some years ago I bought an EPSON 4870 PHOTO scanner which would do 4800 dots per inch. It did the job on the ancient slides I had to take copies of and continues to work well (on both Windows and Mac, not sure about Ubuntu). This scanner is now out of date but I think EPSON has produced successors that do the same job. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Moan -- Top Posting (was Apps for kids)
On 7 Aug at 8:14, Joe O'Dell joseph.od...@googlemail.com wrote: Has anybody ever told you that it's worse to top post and (by saying sorry IN THE SAME POST reveal that you are aware that people will be upset (yet you do it!)) than to simply be unaware (as many people are) of how irritating top posting can be. Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, WHOA! Ease Up - I know some people stick to the mailing list etiquette, but sometimes it's not always possible. I try to where I can, but I don't expect to get a mouthful if I don't have time to etc. Personally, I don't always see the direct need to post underneath quoted text, as it's not always relevant, and can also be a hinderance when reading the email, but I follow most of it anyway. The principal need is to keep posts short, snappy and to the point. Therefore everything you are replying to that is not relevant should be deleted, leaving only a short relevant bit. Then it makes sense to leave the quoted bit above with the reply after it, the same as one does with conversations. Or think of a book. Do writers normally put the end of a conversation first and the beginning last? Never! The further advantage of putting the replies in time order is that replies to the replies can easily be added and the thread of a discussion easily followed. Finally it is useful to retain the identity of the person originating the quote. In the above it is not clear, quote marks apart, that Joseph O'Dell did not write the first paragraph. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Moan -- Top Posting (was Apps for kids)
On 7 Aug at 8:54, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: For the record, on my android phone I cache choose to quote the entire message, or none of it. I get no choice about top posting. If you happen to know who in Google wrote this great Obviously: an android. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on Dell (revisited) ....
On 29 May at 15:23, Mark Fraser ubu...@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk wrote: On Saturday 29 May 2010 15:10:40 Liam Proven wrote: On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Dianne Reuby pramc...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 15:18 -0400, e-mail b.drake wrote: On 28 May 2010 14:21, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: There you go: http://www.connectotel.com/marcus/ceoemail.html Wonderful! Thanks for that. I've e-mailed Michael Dell with a very polite e-mail, and I've bookmarked the page. Now I'll wait eagerly for a reply. If there's anything of interest I'll copy it here. Thanks, Barry Drake. And I've emailed Canonical, to suggest they update the website as Dell don't supply Ubuntu machines in the UK. Those on the US site look quite nice ... As far as I can see, they do, and your actions are very unhelpful. Here are the results of going to www.dell.co.uk and searching for the single word ubuntu: http://search.euro.dell.com/results.aspx?s=genc=ukl=encs=k=ubuntucat=a llx=0y=0 Note, no less than 7 different models. Have you actually tried clicking on them though? Most of them only have the option of selecting Windows XP or 7, as far as I can see the only 2 that have Ubuntu on them are the Latitude 2100 and 2110. Agreed and I took the order to the stage of Add to Basket (with Ubuntu 9.04) and this was accepted. So the above statement of Dell don't supply Ubuntu machines in the UK is false, much as it might be very few Ubuntu machines. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] More on Joggler
A few days ago I said I had got Ubuntu working, with some help from several here, and this was in fact in a graphics mode with no keyboard or mouse: I just had the 4G USB stick plugged direct in to the Joggler's sole USB socket. So I started to try to get a keyboard working. I had an old, probably USB1, hub and gave it a thrash. No good and it's now in the bin. I managed to get it working by using a Mac keyboard which has a couple of slave sockets, which I used for mouse and USB stick. This got Ubuntu going to the Logon point, the keyboard worked OK but the boot process did not bring up the Ubuntu desktop. So I spent a few more skekels on a rubber mat keyboard and a combined hub and mouse. Same result. I can log on but not get to the desktop. Here's what is visible on the Joggler screen after the various startup messages (with no errors that I could see): - Start of screen transcript Ubuntu 9.10 Joggletop tty1 Joggletop login: Joggler Password: Linux Joggletop 2.6.31-20-generic #58 SMP Wed Apr 14 02:29:59 CEST 2010 1686 To access official Ubuntu documentation, please visit: http://help.ubuntu.com/ jogg...@joggletop:~$ * Stopping NTP server ntpd * Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd * Starting NTP server ntpd jogg...@joggletop:~$ - End of screen transcript At this stage the keyboard is fully active and I can enter any command and it appears to work. But I don't know how to start the Ubuntu desktop. Any help would be much appreciated. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Success! was Re: O2 Joggler: deal
On 23 May at 22:01, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote: On 23 May 2010 21:27, Kris Douglas krisdoug...@gmail.com wrote: my description of problems here Hello, the initial command looked correct, the location of the device is the name of where the usb stick is in the file system table, open Gparted/partition editor, you should see the usb device and it will be something like /dev/sdb then remember to type sudo before the command, just to see if you need root privilege to access the device. HTH Just as a corollary to this, it is not necessary to format the stick before writing it with dd. The formatting info is included in the image. So the output file is something like sdb which is the complete stick rather than a partition. With all this it was easy. I eventually deleted all partitions and re-ran the 'dd' command using '/dev/sdb'. As before the 8G stick did not work but the 4G stick now did. So many thanks to everyone who helped me on the way. The next step is to get a keyboard and mouse working and, hopefully, format the 8G stick to work as a read/writable drive. Once that is OK, I will attempt to get the RISC OS emulation working to provide the smallest RISC OS (Acorn) machine on the market - but not the first as others have done this before me, indeed it was seeing their results last Monday that prompted me to say I would like to try this too. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] O2 Joggler: deal
On 20 May at 13:48, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: On 19 May 2010 22:46, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote: A tutorial i made is here for your referance, it should work :) . If you are in a hurry, go to http://www.stephenford.org/joggler/ where a wget command will get you a 4GB usb image, and a dd command will put it on your usb key. Then just plug it in to your joggler and cycle power. Incredibly easy to get started with Ubuntu on a Joggler. Though I did find gnome really badly suited to the touchscreen, so need to think about window managers made more for touchscreens as it is very difficult to even double click with a touchscreen... (also menu's and similar are incredibly hard to click on unless you make the font sizes huge, in which case they just get in the way a lot.. ) I have got stuck again. With both an 8 GB and a 4 GB stick in the Joggler, lights flash on the stick when I start the Joggler but after a minute or so Joggler fires up normally. Problem 1: the USB sticks: - The 8 GB stick has no apparent fault as all the files on it can be seen OK. The 4 GB stick starts off as 4GB but formatting brings this down to 3.4 GB and this will not hold all of Stephen Ford's image. Problem 2: Loading Ubuntu to the stick: -- I had originally done this on the 8 GB stick via the Windows program Disk Imager which made two partitions. As this had not worked on the Joggler, I then tried following Stephen Ford's simple instructions from his site. I unzipped (un-tar, etc) his file until I was left with this: joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin I then wiped the stick and reformatted it. The problem then came with his command of: dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin of=your_own_device bs=10M count=365 I did not know what your_own_deviceshould be translated to. So I tried: dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin of=/dev/sdb1 bs=10M count=365 and got the response: dd: opening `/dev/sdb1': Permission denied My second attempt was with this command: dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin of=/media/C/joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin bs=10M count=365 and this got the response of: 365+0 records in 365+0 records out 3827302400 bytes (3.8 GB) copied, 707.077 s, 5.4 MB/s As above, I put the stick in the Joggler and nothing useful resulted on a reboot. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] O2 Joggler: deal
On 20 May at 13:48, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: On 19 May 2010 22:46, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote: A tutorial i made is here for your referance, it should work :) . If you are in a hurry, go to http://www.stephenford.org/joggler/ where a wget command will get you a 4GB usb image, and a dd command will put it on your usb key. Then just plug it in to your joggler and cycle power. Incredibly easy to get started with Ubuntu on a Joggler. Though I did find gnome really badly suited to the touchscreen, so need to think about window managers made more for touchscreens as it is very difficult to even double click with a touchscreen... (also menu's and similar are incredibly hard to click on unless you make the font sizes huge, in which case they just get in the way a lot.. ) So far I thoroughly agree with you, particularly because Stephen Ford gives the impression that this Ubuntu image is slightly more up-to-date (or up-to-Joggler) than that on the main Ubuntu site. However it was following his instructions to load a USB stick via Windows that led to my initial disaster. I am now going to try his instructions from Ubuntu and hope I can work out what to do, though it really does look simple. Watch this space. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] O2 Joggler: deal
On 19 May at 22:46, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote: A tutorial i made is here for your referance, it should work :) I have noticed that a few of the tutorials do not go in to enough details, and some of them even have the packages wrong, so here is a comprehensive guide to booting UNR on the Joggler :) Many thanks. But I think it may not be comprehensive enough for this old stick. So I am going to give Stephen Ford's method another thrash but this time on the Ubuntu-only route and not via Windows. If this too fails, I will give your method a go. chomp in the interests of brevity -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] O2 Joggler: deal
On 14 May at 8:27, David david.lut...@gmail.com wrote: The O2 Joggler is back onto its deal. Was £99.99. Now £49.99 until the end of May http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler Some ideas of how it could be used : http://jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Main_Page With or without Ubuntu. Thanks and I found one in Windsor yesterday. Neither of the Slough shops had any left. I've tried to get Ubuntu working but failed. Joggler fires up, the USB stick lights for a minute or so then goes out and eventually Joggler boots normally. Initially I had the USB stick plugged into a hub with a keyboard but I have now plugged the stick direct into Joggler to eliminate a few variables. No change, though. The failure could either be that (a) I have blown the USB stick wrong or (b) that something is up with Joggler: (a) I plugged the USB stick into my normal Ubuntu machine, a Fusion partition on a mac Pro, and was able to read what was on the stick OK. I do not know how to add up the sizes of all the files on the stick to compare with the size of the impressed image file. I had used Windows and the DiskImager program to blow the stick (see http://www.stephenford.org/joggler/ ) Perhaps getting another USB stick is next? (b) When I first turned Joggler on it was obviously downloading all sorts of updates. I wonder if O2 have managed to include something to stop us booting direct into Ubuntu? (But they must have done this in the last 24 hours as a chap who had bought one on Monday had had no problem, ditto for one bought last Saturday.) I know there are a few web sites to discuss Joggler but I find web sites cumbersome and much prefer mailing lists. Is there a Joggler-Ubuntu mailing list anywhere? Or is it OK to continue here? -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] O2 Joggler: deal
On 19 May at 13:04, Kris Douglas krisdoug...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 May 2010 12:41, Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@southfarm.plus.com wrote: On 14 May at 8:27, David david.lut...@gmail.com wrote: snip about abtaining Joggler boxes (a) I plugged the USB stick into my normal Ubuntu machine, a Fusion partition on a mac Pro, and was able to read what was on the stick OK. I do not know how to add up the sizes of all the files on the stick to compare with the size of the impressed image file. I had used Windows and the DiskImager program to blow the stick (see http://www.stephenford.org/joggler/ ) Perhaps getting another USB stick is next? more snip As for the USB, make sure the fat partition is setup correctly, but failing that, I guess trying another USB pen would be a good idea, as I have one that works and one that doesn't. Thanks. I have a new stick and will shortly be starting to try to load it with Ubuntu. I'll try and do this all from Ubuntu and not use the very convenient Windows Diskimager program. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mailing list etiquette, Was Hard drive- Bad sectors
On 18 Apr at 22:10, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 16 April 2010 14:33, darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk wrote: Without wishing to start yet another discussion about top-posting v bottom-posting I don't think anyone really minds anymore if anyone who isn't used to or doesn't have the inclination or mailer top-posts. Hah! There are many that mind quite a lot. :) I understand all the history and have seen many arguments about it but it's not in the Ubuntu mailing list code of conduct and most lists these days accept both without anyone being bothered. I beg to differ:- http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists/etiquette Quoting Proper quoting:- Proper quoting is very important on mailing lists, to ensure that it is easy to follow the conversation. There are four fundamental rules: 1. When replying to an email, ensure that the email which you are replying to is indented with a symbol such as or | (this is usually done from the preferences of your email client - most should do this by default). 2. When quoting, attribute the quoted text to the person who wrote it (again, most email clients will do this by default). Be careful to attribute the correct text to the correct person. 3. Write your email underneath the email which you are replying to. 4. Tailor your reply to fit the text which you are replying to. Do not quote the whole of the previous email - remove any unnecessary text. To avoid confusion, it's often a good idea to replace removed text with a brief indication that something has been removed, like [snip]. Seconded. Well-written! -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/Linux meets?
On 16 Apr at 15:58, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 16 April 2010 15:47, Adam Bagnall bagna...@googlemail.com wrote: and presumably a release party somewhere soon... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseParties 3 in the UK so far. One in London, one Scotland, one IoM. Plus one in Banbury, complete with delicious Hook Norton (or so I remember that ale from a barge trip a decade or two back down the Oxford canal). -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS
On 30 Jan at 0:28, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: on Open Standards and Government policies The Danish proposal sounds very positive, unlike some of the wishy-washy bits in ours. I wonder if the wishy-washy bit is because the native lot are not prepared to throw out buying licences to proprietory systems as that may be the only economic source of certain applications? And a simplistic view of the Danish proposal is that all they are concerned with is the use of Open Standards for exchanging information, not for system sourcing. Can anyone outline the overall economies of Open Source? -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is There a problem with digests
On 10 Sep at 18:42, Barry Titterton barry.titter...@mail.adsl4less.com wrote: 2009/9/10 Melv Bailey melvbailey at googlemail.com: However I have not received anything from ubuntu-uk since Vol 52, Issue 30 on the 23/08/2009. Is there a problem? I don't subscribe to the digest, so don't know of this problem. Perhaps someone else who does can confirm it? (Assuming they get this mail of course :) ). Cheers, Al. Merv and Al, I have also not been receiving digests from about the same time as Merv. I am trying to reply to this thread from the archives so my apologies if I'm doing it the wrong way. My account says that Yahoo web mail has been bouncing the digest emails even though my inbox is almost empty (2% memory usage). I thought that it was something to do with MS taking over Yahoo so I registered another email account with my ISP but have still not received any digests. I have noticed other posts from people wondering why the postings are quiet so perhaps there are more people than us two with the same problem. You do not know that there is anything wrong as you do not get any error messages from you web mail account. No problem here with a normal mail system, an average of 5 posts a day over the last 20 days. So it sounds as if web-mail or digests have some problem. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Automatically moving mail from a specific sender to a certain file?
On 16 Aug at 20:23, Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com wrote: This message is being sent to Newsgroup: gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.british Surely not a 'Newsgoup' in the set of accessed through usenet? -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] first edition
On 18 Jun at 21:15, norman nor...@littletank.org wrote: Searching through some old CDs I came across Ubuntu 4.10. Is this a record? Only if it is made of vinyl or, even, shellac. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Thanks!
On 3 Jun at 10:11, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: James Milligan wrote: I've now got a full installation of Ubuntu on my desktop! 8.10 with everything working, bar the sound. Dualbooting with XP and modified grub boot list menu so that XP is default after 3 seconds (for parents and gaming). As soon as I get the sound working I'm going to upgrade to 9.04. note that both 8.04 and 8.10 had issues with sound. afaik they started to use pulsaudio sound server and it was not implemented well. I have found that 9.04 has better sound so give that a try at least live CD before you complete the scenic route through 8.10, you might be lucky? I could not get sound working on 8.04 and 8.10 either. Nor would it work when I upgraded to 9.04. But it did work when I did a separate install into a new partition (on VMWare Fusion on a Mac) of 9.04. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed computer prices
Eddie Bernard edd...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning everyone First off, a declaration of interest, I'm in business selling desktop PCs. However, to avoid accusations of spamming, I won't give further details (unless you actually want them!) My reason for contacting you all is a sort of market research, if you'll be kind enough to allow that. I am interested in your opinion on pricing for a computer with Ubuntu pre-installed, as it's a market I am currently looking into. I'm looking to offer a base unit, 2GHz dual core Celeron (E1400) with 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 RAM, and a 150GB SATA hdd. Graphics, sound and ethernet are onboard. Like I said, I would install Ubuntu 8.10 Why? Surely for the average user a LTS version would be better, such as 8.04? Development versions and upgrades could raise severe antagonisms to you. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
In message of 21 Mar, ged byrom ged.by...@ntlworld.com wrote: Is there any special reason for naming this release after a mythical beastie rather than a real beastie ? Are we likely to see the haggis release or the even rarer mirk in the future ? This sparks off a whole canon of inspiration: B is for Basilisk C is for Centaur, D is for Dragon (but not Kimono) G is for Gryphon M is for Mermaid P is for Phoenix S is for Sphinx U is for Unicorn W is for Wyvern Y is for Yeti I know the first four are already past, but the alphabet will have to come round again. And what else? -- Tim powys-lybbe ...@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keep losing sound
In message of 7 Jan, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote: I suspect Firefox may be your issue. I sometimes find that if I've done anything involving sound in Firefox then no other applications will get access to the sound. My 8,10 Ubuntu tells me, after login, that 'Sound will be disconnected'. It continues to do this with Firefox disabled both within Ubuntu and within the host Mac. Finally a few pulseaudio updates arrived today but even after installation and restarting I still get the Sould will be Disconnected message. -- Tim powys-lybbe ...@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] sound problem
In message of 27 Dec, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote: Under ubuntu 8.10 running gnome and amarok media player I have just lost my sound, it was playing then just stopped. but amarok indicates the song is stil playing but I can't hear anything (no i have not muted it), if I then exit and reload amarok i get the following Audio output unavailable; the device is busy. xine parameters: any idea what this means, or could point to? I get sound back if i log out then back in again, i have googled this and changed my sound to alsa, but it's still happening. With my 8.10, under Fusion 2 on a Mac, the sound disconnects itself when I start up. I reset the settings but it just disconnects on the next startup. Sound on 8.04 is fine, same Fusion 2. -- Tim powys-lybbe ...@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 64-bit or 32-bit, Was BBC Iplayer download on Linux
In message of 21 Dec, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: 2008/12/21 David King linux...@avoura.com: I do not see why more people do not use 64-bit operating systems. The CPUs on all new PCs are now 64-bit, so why not have 64-bit OS? Because (on my laptop) there's zero benefit to running 64-bit version of the OS and there are some gotchas with a few things either not working or requiring enough faff to get working that it's annoying/frustrating/timeconsuming to do it. Without measuring anything, 64-bit Ubuntu definitely feels a little faster than 32-bit. But I agree with the other criticisms of the present state of some of the offered applications. I ran 64-bit Ubuntu for 6 months and now have reverted back to 32-bit. Fortunately I can keep both available under VMware Fusion on a mac pro. My laptop has 4GB of RAM but there's a flaw in that it will only show 3.3GB to the OS, whether it's 64-bit or 32-bit. No such problem here. -- Tim powys-lybbe ...@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 64-bit or 32-bit, Was BBC Iplayer download on Linux
In message of 21 Dec, Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk wrote: 2008/12/21 Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@southfarm.plus.com: In message of 21 Dec, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: 2008/12/21 David King linux...@avoura.com: I do not see why more people do not use 64-bit operating systems. The CPUs on all new PCs are now 64-bit, so why not have 64-bit OS? Because (on my laptop) there's zero benefit to running 64-bit version of the OS and there are some gotchas with a few things either not working or requiring enough faff to get working that it's annoying/frustrating/timeconsuming to do it. Without measuring anything, 64-bit Ubuntu definitely feels a little faster than 32-bit. But I agree with the other criticisms of the present state of some of the offered applications. You need to measure. Can you recommend a speedometer? -- Tim powys-lybbe ...@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The I'm Linux Video Contest
In message of 21 Dec, Christopher Swift chris.r.sw...@googlemail.com wrote: snip In short, the Linux foundation have started a contest for a video advert/commercial. The video has to represent GNU/Linux in some way and can even be specific to Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSUSE, Fedora etc. The terms are that you must be 18 and represent Linux in some way. They must also be 60 seconds or less. More info here: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/category/video-category/-linux-foundation-video-contest Admitted that there is no money for advertising within the Linux world. So what is going to be done with this video? It can't be put on the TV channels as that costs big bucks. Or have some channels indicated thay will give free air-time? Or will it just end up on U-tube? And who will own the winning item? -- Tim powys-lybbe ...@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster
In message of 8 Nov, gav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:41:08PM +, Bruce Beardall wrote: I think you raise some important concerns, Alan. As a Gnome user, I can't really say I've had much recent experience beyond a cursory glance at KDE 4 but I think this leads to an interesting question: If we're to advocate Linux [and as far as this list is concerned, Ubuntu] should we be concentrating our advocacy on the LTS release? It's all too easy for anyone on this list to get carried away with the latest and greatest but the vast majority of those we're trying to introduce Linux to are used to the years between each Windows release. Should we be concentrating on introducing them to a release which is intended to be around for a number of years and expected to have a certain level of stability and accessibility? As the last couple of releases have had a bumpy start I've been putting LTS versions, currently 8.04.1 Ubuntu on new installs for people recently. I think I'll stick with the 8.04.1 Ubuntu disc for a while yet. This does ask the question of why the latest releases have had a bumpy start, is the new features cut off coming too late? is it not being tested on a wide enough variety of hardware? Or is it something else? Everything seems to be patched quite quickly and a .1 release seems to follow shortly that solves most of the release day problems. Should we be advising people to wait a week, or even a month before upgrading to a new version of Ubuntu? I remember being told by people from IBM that whenever a new version of our somewhat critcal software came out, to leave it for six months before installing it. That way all the obvious bugs would be found by those who really had to have some new feature. I'm not usre I always follow this for myself but for a production operation, it has to be the right policy. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] System hosed during network upgrade to 8.10
In message of 2 Nov, keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message of 1 Nov, Tim Powys-Lybbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed it as an upgrade to 8.04 64 bit Hello Tim, Have you abandoned RiscOS, or are you just dallying? ;-) No. (To whichever question it applies to.) I have always been in favour of exploration, though it is limited by my abilities. Ubuntu/Linux interests me as (a) free, (b) now usable and (c) possibly a future. So once a week or so I give it a thrash with something or other. It runs on my Big Mac, on which also runs Reunion for genealogy and RISC OS (capitals and two words, the correct form) for more or less everything else. The fourth operating system that the BM runs is Windows in a VMWare virtual machine like Ubuntu. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] System hosed during network upgrade to 8.10
In message of 1 Nov, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend to run the 8.10 version in a virtual machine first. Always best to test a new system before deploying it live. However, not many people are seeding the Ubuntu 8.10 AMD64 DVD, which I am downloading via bittorrent from LinuxTracker.org. I have installed it as an upgrade to 8.04 64 bit (from a CDROM). What I cannot find is any indication of what I have got, whether it is a 32bit for x86s or 64bit. It works anyhow and no significant problems to date. The insignificant problem is that I have installed it in a VMWare virtual machine (Fusion version 2 on a Mac) and when I shut down any version (32bit or 64bit) of Ubuntu 8,10, they hang in the terminal just before the final instruction to close down the virtual machine. I can type in the terminal window but no command that I've though of will do anything. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Windows Dual Boot
In message of 5 Sep, Andrew Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok strange question but i have a ubuntu system that is running only ubuntu, and i could do with doing a dual install with windows, however i am not keen to have to format. I really need the dual boot with windows for performance reasons on this project and am struggling to think of a way to do it without messing up my MBR etc.. does anyone have any ideas, a backup and restore from my current install would be a possibility if anyone has any good ideas for doing that. You don't say what type of computer you have. On my Mac I have installed VMWare's Fusion program and this enables me to run, in addition to Mac OS, separate windows at the same time, one for Ubuntu and one for Windows. Both seem to run quickly. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bracknell Software Freedom Day 20th Sept
In message of 1 Sep, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Surrey, Hampshire, uk ubuntu lists) Bracknell has a Software Freedom Day Event! If you happen to be in our neck of the woods and are passing on the day, please stop by and say hello? If you are able to actually come and lend a hand you will be most welcomed, we could do with helpers! The event is being planned in Princess Square shopping mall (rather similar to last year if all works out ok) time between 10.00am to 4.00pm Thanks for the info: I've put a note in my diary to stagger along. You may be aware that the Bracknell Ubuntu Thieves used bolt cutters only a couple of weeks ago to run off with a Web-book from CarPhone Warehouse - situated only yards away from our proposed event location. This cynic does wonders if that exploit was not very good publicity and doubtless you wish you'd thought of doing it first! -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Age and gender
In message of 28 Aug, Sean Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:58 AM, London School of Puppetry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much relates to necessity and opportunity. As most management is male, then there will be fewer opportunities given to women. But I know several women Interestingly, at Cornhill Insurance (later Allianz) when I was there most of the IT management were female. It was the technicians and the programmers who tended to be primarily male. Perhaps not qite so polarised, but a similar picture at the Liverpool Computer Centre of United Biscuits some ten to twenty years ago. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/