[ubuntu-uk] [test]
[test] -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Test drive and V-Box ..
Hi there Someone (was it you Alan C?) suggested TestDrive as an easy way of doing regular tests on the Alpha Natty. I've been trying TestDrive with VirtualBox as the engine. Nice idea! BUT, behaviour is very different from running a CD. At the moment, I have the well reported problem with Compiz/Unity not being compatible with Nouveau. Now, if I boot from the CD, I can see the Unity interface, but there are a few known problems, and it's easy to crash Compiz. If I run the same ISO through TestDrive, Compiz crashes at boot time, and Natty defaults to the Gnome desktop. Any thoughts? Incidentally, I love the Unity desktop (Barry dons tin-hat). Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test drive and V-Box ..
On 16 February 2011 12:22, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote: Hi there Someone (was it you Alan C?) suggested TestDrive as an easy way of doing regular tests on the Alpha Natty. If it weren't for the fact that Natty needs 3D for the Unity desktop, which you won't get out of the box booting a CD on Testdrive/Virtualbox. I've been trying TestDrive with VirtualBox as the engine. Nice idea! BUT, behaviour is very different from running a CD. Due to the VirtualBox extensions not being present. Have you tried doing the install inside virtualbox and then adding the extensions, then rebooting the VM? Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test drive and V-Box ..
On 16 February 2011 12:25, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: Due to the VirtualBox extensions not being present. Have you tried doing the install inside virtualbox and then adding the extensions, then rebooting the VM? The other day I downloaded the latest VirtualBox, and tried Natty. I did not try too hard but I seem to remember that the version of X in Natty is too new and not supported by the extensions. -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test drive and V-Box ..
On 16/02/11 19:07, Philip Stubbs wrote: On 16 February 2011 12:25, Alan Popea...@popey.com wrote: Due to the VirtualBox extensions not being present. Have you tried doing the install inside virtualbox and then adding the extensions, then rebooting the VM? The other day I downloaded the latest VirtualBox, and tried Natty. I did not try too hard but I seem to remember that the version of X in Natty is too new and not supported by the extensions. Works a treat actually. You need Virtualbox 4, which isn't in the repos, but comes as a .deb file and install the virtualbox guest extensions in the guest, then sit back and enjoy all the compiz powered unity goodness. Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test drive and V-Box ..
On 16 February 2011 19:39, Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com wrote: On 16/02/11 19:07, Philip Stubbs wrote: On 16 February 2011 12:25, Alan Popea...@popey.com wrote: Due to the VirtualBox extensions not being present. Have you tried doing the install inside virtualbox and then adding the extensions, then rebooting the VM? The other day I downloaded the latest VirtualBox, and tried Natty. I did not try too hard but I seem to remember that the version of X in Natty is too new and not supported by the extensions. Works a treat actually. You need Virtualbox 4, which isn't in the repos, but comes as a .deb file and install the virtualbox guest extensions in the guest, then sit back and enjoy all the compiz powered unity goodness. I was trying VirtualBox 4.0.2 on a 64 bit Windows host. I was at work and only mildly curious so did not spend too much time working out what was wrong. Can you please let me know what version you are using, as I may want to try and run it at home on a Linux host. Thanks. -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test drive and V-Box ..
On 16/02/11 19:45, Philip Stubbs wrote: I was trying VirtualBox 4.0.2 on a 64 bit Windows host. I was at work and only mildly curious so did not spend too much time working out what was wrong. Can you please let me know what version you are using, as I may want to try and run it at home on a Linux host. Thanks. VirtualBox version 4.0.0 r69151 on 32 bit Ubuntu 10.10 host with Natty 64bit guest (yes, you can do that too). Not entirely surprised the windows host didn't work as it relies on passing through OpenGL and Windows uses that DirectX stuff instead I think Alan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Test driving a new version (was Re: natty with unity)
On 14 January 2011 10:55, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote: This is a slight tangent, but I'd like to see this but don't fancy upgrading this installation this early in the process... under WUBI can I have two versions of Ubuntu? ie. when I boot can I have Ubuntu 10.04 AND 11.04 (and obviously Windows) all as options? As it's stored in a subdirectory of the windows partition, if the answer is no I'd ask why? I don't know the answer to your specific question, but trying a test-drive of the new version is precisely the Use Case for the testdrive application. If I remember correctly, it's available in 10.04 (just checked while looking for the following link, looks like it is). There's a nice GUI for it in 10.10 too (there's a PPA for 10.04) - try looking at Dustin Kirkland's blog on http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2010/02/have-you-taken-lucid-for-testrive-yet.html sudo add-apt-repository ppa:testdrive/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install testdrive Also install testdrive-gtk if you want the GUI. If you don't want to use the command-line to install, open Software Centre, choose Edit Software Sources on the menu, click the Other Software tab then the Add button, enter ppa:testdrive/ppa and click the Add button. Close the Software Sources and go back to the Software Centre window and search for testdrive. As an aside, it'll create a virtual machine from other ISO images, not just Ubuntu. Cofion/Regards, Neil. P.S. Sean, sorry if you get this twice, but I cc'd you when I changed the Subject line. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] test
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:03 PM, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: test Very testing... did I hear a rumour that something was happening today? Forget what... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] test
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:46:19 +0100, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:03 PM, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: test Very testing... did I hear a rumour that something was happening today? Forget what... Sean Some people are going to get drunk because some other people arranged noughts and ones in a a special order :D -- Steve (Yorvyk) http://www.lubuntu.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Test
Test, please ignore. -- Toby Satchell BSc (hons) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 10:24 +, Toby Satchell wrote: Test, please ignore. Duly ignored -- Seek That Thy Might Know http://www.davmor2.co.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
To be honest, I hadn't even noticed it. 2009/3/20 Stephen Garton sheepeating...@sheepeatingtaz.co.uk 2009/3/20 Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.uk On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 10:24 +, Toby Satchell wrote: Test, please ignore. Duly ignored -- Fail ;-) Steve Garton sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
2009/3/20 Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.uk On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 10:24 +, Toby Satchell wrote: Test, please ignore. Duly ignored -- Fail ;-) Steve Garton sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
2009/3/20 doug livesey biot...@gmail.com: To be honest, I hadn't even noticed it. Notice what? Have I missed something? :-) -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
I did this because on the mailing list options it says do you wish to receive a copy of emails you send to the list. I have it selected as yes, yet I don't see a copy of my emails sent. Toby. 2009/3/20 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk: 2009/3/20 doug livesey biot...@gmail.com: To be honest, I hadn't even noticed it. Notice what? Have I missed something? :-) -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- -- Toby Satchell BSc (hons) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
Notice what? Have I missed something? :-) -- Philip Stubbs Nice, polite ignore message. Would ignore again. Roger -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Toby Satchell tsatch...@gmail.com wrote: I did this because on the mailing list options it says do you wish to receive a copy of emails you send to the list. I have it selected as yes, yet I don't see a copy of my emails sent. This is because you're posting from your gmail address. You won't see your own posts in Gmail. -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
2009/3/20 Toby Satchell tsatch...@gmail.com I did this because on the mailing list options it says do you wish to receive a copy of emails you send to the list. I have it selected as yes, yet I don't see a copy of my emails sent. Toby. I think gmail is 'clever', and doesn't store 2 copies. Steve Garton sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
Toby Satchell wrote: I did this because on the mailing list options it says do you wish to receive a copy of emails you send to the list. I have it selected as yes, yet I don't see a copy of my emails sent. I, too, had this problem with gmail. Can't remember why you can't get copies of own posts via gmail (I think it was something to do with using POP3 to fetch from Gmail); but you can't. (I switched to gmx.co.uk and don't have any problem now.) mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
Steve Flynn wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Toby Satchell tsatch...@gmail.com wrote: I did this because on the mailing list options it says do you wish to receive a copy of emails you send to the list. I have it selected as yes, yet I don't see a copy of my emails sent. This is because you're posting from your gmail address. You won't see your own posts in Gmail. This is good to know. I have this problem with a lot of mailing lists I use. Out of interest I do receive some of my own emails, but perhaps it is only the ones where I've replied to someone else's e-mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
On another list we set a rule that if you wanted to send a test message you had to quote something inspirational, as please ignore this test is just so 1990s. Children aren't happy without something to ignore, And that's what parents were created for. - Ogden Nash :-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20/03/09 14:05, Sean Miller wrote: On another list we set a rule that if you wanted to send a test message you had to quote something inspirational, as please ignore this test is just so 1990s. Children aren't happy without something to ignore, And that's what parents were created for. - Ogden Nash Inspirational words indeed with Mother's Day looming large. - -- Stephen O'Neill w: http://www.thefloatingfrog.co.uk/ e: sq...@thefloatingfrog.co.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknDpzUACgkQJ+Auntu1v4RikQCfWW9KbulsnXxriaU3H4LFArxi ZfcAn2GTsSF5d29MwMelcM3doEjt1kKR =ljkx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
Many servers think that gmail and googlemail are two different things, so if your emailer sends out your return address as googlemail and you personally send it out as gmail, this can cause problems. On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 12:25 +, mac wrote: Toby Satchell wrote: I did this because on the mailing list options it says do you wish to receive a copy of emails you send to the list. I have it selected as yes, yet I don't see a copy of my emails sent. I, too, had this problem with gmail. Can't remember why you can't get copies of own posts via gmail (I think it was something to do with using POP3 to fetch from Gmail); but you can't. (I switched to gmx.co.uk and don't have any problem now.) mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
2009/3/20 Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com: Many servers think that gmail and googlemail are two different things, so if your emailer sends out your return address as googlemail and you personally send it out as gmail, this can cause problems. That's not the servers fault, but googles. Anyone who signed up for a Google Mail account before the court case in which it was revealed GMail was a trademark held by another company would have an @gmail account. Those who registered after would have an @googlemail account. The problem comes in that google still accept mail addressed to @gmail to people with @googlemail accounts. However when people with @googlemail accounts send email it appears to come from @googlemail and not @gmail. This means that people with @googlemail accounts believe falsely that they have a @gmail account. So they sign up for mailing lists (like this one) as foo@gmail.com and then wonder why their mail to the list bounces because they're not subscribed. The reason being that mailman will send the confirmation mail to @gmail but any mails the user sends to the list will appear to come from @googlemail and as such mailman spits it out complaining that the @googlemail is not subscribed to that mailing list. In my mind that's googles fault for not educating the users about their address and the implications of having an @googlemail account, and not rejecting @gmail mail for @googlemail accounts. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
Wow. Were you a scriptwriter on Yes, Minister? ;) 2009/3/20 Alan Pope a...@popey.com 2009/3/20 Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com: Many servers think that gmail and googlemail are two different things, so if your emailer sends out your return address as googlemail and you personally send it out as gmail, this can cause problems. That's not the servers fault, but googles. Anyone who signed up for a Google Mail account before the court case in which it was revealed GMail was a trademark held by another company would have an @gmail account. Those who registered after would have an @googlemail account. The problem comes in that google still accept mail addressed to @gmail to people with @googlemail accounts. However when people with @googlemail accounts send email it appears to come from @googlemail and not @gmail. This means that people with @googlemail accounts believe falsely that they have a @gmail account. So they sign up for mailing lists (like this one) as foo@gmail.com and then wonder why their mail to the list bounces because they're not subscribed. The reason being that mailman will send the confirmation mail to @gmail but any mails the user sends to the list will appear to come from @googlemail and as such mailman spits it out complaining that the @googlemail is not subscribed to that mailing list. In my mind that's googles fault for not educating the users about their address and the implications of having an @googlemail account, and not rejecting @gmail mail for @googlemail accounts. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
Thanks for explaining that, Al; since I had exactly the same problem when joining this list, I have been more careful to change all my subscription addresses to googlemail.com On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 14:56 +, Alan Pope wrote: 2009/3/20 Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com: Many servers think that gmail and googlemail are two different things, so if your emailer sends out your return address as googlemail and you personally send it out as gmail, this can cause problems. That's not the servers fault, but googles. Anyone who signed up for a Google Mail account before the court case in which it was revealed GMail was a trademark held by another company would have an @gmail account. Those who registered after would have an @googlemail account. The problem comes in that google still accept mail addressed to @gmail to people with @googlemail accounts. However when people with @googlemail accounts send email it appears to come from @googlemail and not @gmail. This means that people with @googlemail accounts believe falsely that they have a @gmail account. So they sign up for mailing lists (like this one) as foo@gmail.com and then wonder why their mail to the list bounces because they're not subscribed. The reason being that mailman will send the confirmation mail to @gmail but any mails the user sends to the list will appear to come from @googlemail and as such mailman spits it out complaining that the @googlemail is not subscribed to that mailing list. In my mind that's googles fault for not educating the users about their address and the implications of having an @googlemail account, and not rejecting @gmail mail for @googlemail accounts. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
2009/3/20 doug livesey biot...@gmail.com: Wow. Were you a scriptwriter on Yes, Minister? ;) That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me today :) Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
Doubtful - I understood every word :D Kev doug livesey wrote: Wow. Were you a scriptwriter on Yes, Minister? ;) 2009/3/20 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com 2009/3/20 Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com mailto:rowan.berke...@googlemail.com: Many servers think that gmail and googlemail are two different things, so if your emailer sends out your return address as googlemail and you personally send it out as gmail, this can cause problems. That's not the servers fault, but googles. Anyone who signed up for a Google Mail account before the court case in which it was revealed GMail was a trademark held by another company would have an @gmail account. Those who registered after would have an @googlemail account. The problem comes in that google still accept mail addressed to @gmail to people with @googlemail accounts. However when people with @googlemail accounts send email it appears to come from @googlemail and not @gmail. This means that people with @googlemail accounts believe falsely that they have a @gmail account. So they sign up for mailing lists (like this one) as foo@gmail.com mailto:foo@gmail.com and then wonder why their mail to the list bounces because they're not subscribed. The reason being that mailman will send the confirmation mail to @gmail but any mails the user sends to the list will appear to come from @googlemail and as such mailman spits it out complaining that the @googlemail is not subscribed to that mailing list. In my mind that's googles fault for not educating the users about their address and the implications of having an @googlemail account, and not rejecting @gmail mail for @googlemail accounts. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
