Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Tue, 03 May 2011 11:26:01 +0100, Jon Reynolds wrote: Well, This is a bit of a rant I'm afraid... need to vent. snip -- Well, well, well A completely wiped netbook and a fresh install of 11.04 and. wifi works! Out the box! Am just afraid to do an apt-get upgrade now :/ Jon Reynolds (j0nr) http://www.jcrdevelopments.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Tue, 3 May 2011 23:15:00 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote: Sorry about the double post but I'm going to quote the section. It's a pain on a mobile. pci wireless devices 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01) Subsystem: Askey Computer Corp. Device [144f:7160] Kernel modules: r8192e_pci 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev 02) snip Yes the device shows up, but I mean I don't know how to make it turn on... in those notes, you see there are no attached wireless interfaces. When I do ifconfig -a there is no wlan entry. Hopefully this is an easy solution to someone, but I am not sure what I am looking for. All I know is it was working before. Anyway, I am going to reformat the whole netbook. Its still got a restore partition that came with it which is wasting 10Gb or so... Going to do a fresh Ubuntu 11,04 part. + /home part. + XP part. See how it works out of the box. -- Jon Reynolds (j0nr) http://www.jcrdevelopments.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:53:35 +0100
Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.com wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2011 23:15:00 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote:
Sorry about the double post but I'm going to quote the section. It's
a pain on a mobile.
pci wireless devices
02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01) Subsystem:
Askey
Computer Corp. Device [144f:7160] Kernel modules: r8192e_pci 03:00.0
Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136]
(rev 02)
snip
Yes the device shows up, but I mean I don't know how to make it turn
on... in those notes, you see there are no attached wireless interfaces.
When I do ifconfig -a there is no wlan entry.
Hopefully this is an easy solution to someone, but I am not sure what I
am looking for. All I know is it was working before.
Anyway, I am going to reformat the whole netbook. Its still got a
restore partition that came with it which is wasting 10Gb or so...
Going to do a fresh Ubuntu 11,04 part. + /home part. + XP part.
See how it works out of the box.
On some notebooks/laptops there is a function key that enables WiFi. I've
found with upgrades that this sets it's self to disable the WiFi, but doesn't
with a clean install.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Wed, 4 May 2011 09:38:29 +0100, Yorvyk wrote: On some notebooks/laptops there is a function key that enables WiFi. I've found with upgrades that this sets it's self to disable the WiFi, but doesn't with a clean install. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net There is a Fn + option for toggling wifi on/off (which never seems to work anyway) but the wifi light is on, as it always has been, but whether that means anything... I don't know. -- Jon Reynolds (j0nr) http://www.jcrdevelopments.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On 4 May 2011 09:54, Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.com wrote: On Wed, 4 May 2011 09:38:29 +0100, Yorvyk wrote: On some notebooks/laptops there is a function key that enables WiFi. I've found with upgrades that this sets it's self to disable the WiFi, but doesn't with a clean install. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net There is a Fn + option for toggling wifi on/off (which never seems to work anyway) but the wifi light is on, as it always has been, but whether that means anything... I don't know. -- Jon Reynolds (j0nr) http://www.jcrdevelopments.com The wifi light often doubles as a bluetooth light on laptops / netbooks. Have you checked that the WiFi is enabled in the bios of the machine, perhaps disabling bluetooth as well to see if the light still comes on. Thank you -- John Stevenson http://uk.linkedin.com/in/johnstevenson247 | @JR0ckethttp://http//twitter.com/#%21/JR0cket | JR0cket.co.uk http://jr0cket.co.uk/ | JR0cket.com http://jr0cket.com/ | LeanAgileMachine.com http://leanagilemachine.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Wed, 4 May 2011 10:30:46 +0100, John Stevenson wrote: The wifi light often doubles as a bluetooth light on laptops / netbooks. Have you checked that the WiFi is enabled in the bios of the machine, perhaps disabling bluetooth as well to see if the light still comes on. Thank you -- John Stevenson Would an upgrade turn WiFi off in the bios?? If not then it shouldn't be off, as I have been using this netbook for a few years now with wifi with Ubuntu and XP. BTW WiFi is still working when I boot into XP. -- Jon Reynolds (j0nr) http://www.jcrdevelopments.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
OK, here are some links that I found useful! The method I used, admittedly it was on a Maverick based distro, was to update the kernel from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ and the install the samsung-wireless package from here: https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa once updated you may have to blacklist the built it drivers: sudo gedit */etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf *and add the following lines: * blacklist r8192e_pci* *blacklist r8192se_pci* Not tried it with natty yet, you may just have to use the voria ppa. You may want to try updating the kernel to the oneiric or the Natty 2.6.39-rc4 (current) and add the voria ppa too. - this is a bit risky so your system may not survive !!! ;) There is a surprising amount of info out there as the samsung netbook is a popular one, it's a good little machine ;) here are some links with useful info on, in no particular order: http://www.sammynetbook.com/forum/threads/14952-My-adventures-in-Linux-Land-Ubuntu-on-the-N210 http://www.stewartpratt.com/?p=443 http://seaborne.blogspot.com/2010/07/ubuntu-on-samsung-n210.html Hope that helps a little, cheers On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Les Pounder lespoun...@gmail.com wrote: I have an N130, I ran 11.04 (fresh install) for about a day, WIFI was really patchy out of the box, so I installed the voria ppa.n Unfortunately still really patchy WIFI. I've reverted back to 10.04, using the Voria PPA and everything is back to normal. Les On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Dave Rice d...@ricey.co.uk wrote: Trouble is, I tried that on a fresh install on a n210 and it didn't work! I'll write down the steps I did in a minute and post it here once I’ve found all the links cheers On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 4 May 2011 11:52, Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.com wrote: On Wed, 4 May 2011 10:44:02 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10487458postcount=34 Looks like that solves it. Al. Hmm, I have already tried that procedure. This is what worries me, I have tried multiple solutions and wonder if they are all now conflicting with each other. I think a fresh install, then that ^ solution is best route to try... Sounds like a plan. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Wed, 4 May 2011 14:51:49 +0300, Dave Rice wrote: OK, here are some links that I found useful! The method I used, admittedly it was on a Maverick based distro, was to update the kernel from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ [14] and the install the samsung-wireless package from here: https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa [15] once updated you may have to blacklist the built it drivers: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and add the following lines: blacklist r8192e_pci _blacklist r8192se_pci_ Not tried it with natty yet, you may just have to use the voria ppa. You may want to try updating the kernel to the oneiric or the Natty 2.6.39-rc4 (current) and add the voria ppa too. - this is a bit risky so your system may not survive !!! ;) There is a surprising amount of info out there as the samsung netbook is a popular one, it's a good little machine ;) here are some links with useful info on, in no particular order: http://www.sammynetbook.com/forum/threads/14952-My-adventures-in-Linux-Land-Ubuntu-on-the-N210 [16] http://www.stewartpratt.com/?p=443 [17] http://seaborne.blogspot.com/2010/07/ubuntu-on-samsung-n210.html [18] Hope that helps a little, cheers Thanks for all the ideas and help! When I re-format the netbook, I actually think I will stick with 10,04 or 10,10 as they worked... think I will leave 11,04 mature a bit more. shame, but there we are. Cheers again. -- Jon Reynolds (j0nr) http://www.jcrdevelopments.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Wednesday 04 May 2011 13:08:35 Jon Reynolds wrote: On Wed, 4 May 2011 14:51:49 +0300, Dave Rice wrote: OK, here are some links that I found useful! The method I used, admittedly it was on a Maverick based distro, was to update the kernel from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ [14] and the install the samsung-wireless package from here: https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa [15] once updated you may have to blacklist the built it drivers: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and add the following lines: blacklist r8192e_pci _blacklist r8192se_pci_ Not tried it with natty yet, you may just have to use the voria ppa. You may want to try updating the kernel to the oneiric or the Natty 2.6.39-rc4 (current) and add the voria ppa too. - this is a bit risky so your system may not survive !!! ;) There is a surprising amount of info out there as the samsung netbook is a popular one, it's a good little machine ;) here are some links with useful info on, in no particular order: http://www.sammynetbook.com/forum/threads/14952-My-adventures-in-Linux-La nd-Ubuntu-on-the-N210 [16] http://www.stewartpratt.com/?p=443 [17] http://seaborne.blogspot.com/2010/07/ubuntu-on-samsung-n210.html [18] Hope that helps a little, cheers Thanks for all the ideas and help! When I re-format the netbook, I actually think I will stick with 10,04 or 10,10 as they worked... think I will leave 11,04 mature a bit more. shame, but there we are. Cheers again. I know what you mean, I've upgraded to Kubuntu 11.04 on 2 laptops and both have different bugs in them. Wireless works fine with one of them, but not the other, display problems etc. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
Well, This is a bit of a rant I'm afraid... need to vent. rant class=frustratedWhat gives with wireless? Why is it such an issue for Ubuntu? 'Almost' every time I perform an apt-get upgrade or in this case, a distribution upgrade, my wireless breaks! I'm getting really fed up of it. Now I don't want to be seen as whinging about something but not helping to fix it, but it has been fixed in the past, as I have been using wifi before on many previous versions on this hardware. But for some reason, my particular wireless h/w, seems to get forgotten about or lost or whatever whenever there is a major upgrade and I have to wait, sometimes several weeks, for one of the upgrades to fix it. Or try various different methods found by googling, which don't all work, which I fear is cluttering up my system. I don't understand how if it is fixed, why that bit of code or whatever it is doesn't just stay put. /rant Right now, after an upgrade to 11,04, I have no wireless devices detected. Its not that I can't connect, I don't even have any wlan detected. Its a Realtek. -- Jon Reynolds (j0nr) http://www.jcrdevelopments.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On 03/05/11 11:26, Jon Reynolds wrote: Well, This is a bit of a rant I'm afraid... need to vent. rant class=frustratedWhat gives with wireless? Why is it such an issue for Ubuntu? 'Almost' every time I perform an apt-get upgrade or in this case, a distribution upgrade, my wireless breaks! I'm getting really fed up of it. Now I don't want to be seen as whinging about something but not helping to fix it, but it has been fixed in the past, as I have been using wifi before on many previous versions on this hardware. But for some reason, my particular wireless h/w, seems to get forgotten about or lost or whatever whenever there is a major upgrade and I have to wait, sometimes several weeks, for one of the upgrades to fix it. Or try various different methods found by googling, which don't all work, which I fear is cluttering up my system. I don't understand how if it is fixed, why that bit of code or whatever it is doesn't just stay put. /rant Right now, after an upgrade to 11,04, I have no wireless devices detected. Its not that I can't connect, I don't even have any wlan detected. Its a Realtek. do lsusb in a terminal and let us know the full line that relates to your wireless device. Is this built in to some kind of laptop? Which model? If it is a certified model or the same wireless device is in a certified model then put that in the bug report. So far this is a rant with out much actionable information, lets get it to a reportable and fixable bug report. Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
Hi Guys, I know I don't post here very often but I have to pop my two penneth in here, in saying I feel for you both! I recently have been trying to get others to put Ubuntu onto their netbooks (various) and am getting increasingly frustrated with the state of wifi in Ubuntu. Other distros seem to be ahead of the game, but not all mind you. Jon, I have been fighting with a Samsung n210, a rtl8192e, took me three hours to get it working using all sorts of avenues. I finally had to update the kernel and use the 'samsung-wireless' ppa ( https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa) to get in anywhere near working. My own compaq 311c with an atheros ar928x series card still isn't working at full level, I had to make/install the latest compat-wireless ( http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download) to get it anywhere near usable. (as a point of note - mint 10 lxde was fine!) Alan, as for bugs, there are plenty already in the system: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/735171 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/729549 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/508746 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/761176 these are just four of many that apply to the state of wireless cards. I obviously don't know how hard the devs are working, I'm sure they're pulling their hair out too, but the pace seems to have slowed somewhat. With Ubuntu now with Unity (not bad so far) being an all round solution even for netbooks those with netbooks can't get online out of the box! If Ubuntu wants to see an increase in netbook/laptop users then the most important aspect of the netbook IMO is it's network card. Users just want to install and go, they shouldn't have to be compiling drivers from source or updating their kernel!! Cheers, On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com wrote: On 03/05/11 11:26, Jon Reynolds wrote: Well, This is a bit of a rant I'm afraid... need to vent. rant class=frustratedWhat gives with wireless? Why is it such an issue for Ubuntu? 'Almost' every time I perform an apt-get upgrade or in this case, a distribution upgrade, my wireless breaks! I'm getting really fed up of it. Now I don't want to be seen as whinging about something but not helping to fix it, but it has been fixed in the past, as I have been using wifi before on many previous versions on this hardware. But for some reason, my particular wireless h/w, seems to get forgotten about or lost or whatever whenever there is a major upgrade and I have to wait, sometimes several weeks, for one of the upgrades to fix it. Or try various different methods found by googling, which don't all work, which I fear is cluttering up my system. I don't understand how if it is fixed, why that bit of code or whatever it is doesn't just stay put. /rant Right now, after an upgrade to 11,04, I have no wireless devices detected. Its not that I can't connect, I don't even have any wlan detected. Its a Realtek. do lsusb in a terminal and let us know the full line that relates to your wireless device. Is this built in to some kind of laptop? Which model? If it is a certified model or the same wireless device is in a certified model then put that in the bug report. So far this is a rant with out much actionable information, lets get it to a reportable and fixable bug report. Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
Its a Realtek. do lsusb in a terminal and let us know the full line that relates to your wireless device. Is this built in to some kind of laptop? Which model? If it is a certified model or the same wireless device is in a certified model then put that in the bug report. So far this is a rant with out much actionable information, lets get it to a reportable and fixable bug report. Alan. I have no problem with the command line however many windows users will think they are taking a step backwards having to type lsusb and many users don't think they should have to use the command line. surely a tool can be written for the gui that does this job. There are tools that handle ping, traceroute, nslookup, whois etc in a small application, so why not one for lsusb, lspci etc it just needs a tabbed gui that can allow 1 button to be pressed the results displayed in a scrollable box, this allows easy copy / paste in to a e-mail or text document. it would make life easier. we need to think from a non techy / geek point of view sometimes. just a thought Paul -- Paul Sutton Cert SLPS (Open) http://www.zleap.net Open Mic nights - Wednesday 8pm to 11pm (14+) Free entry Breakin' Ground - Street dance for young people (8+) Wednesday 6pm (starts May 11th) The Lighthouse,26 Esplanade Road, Paignton 01803 411 812 or e-mail i...@devonmusiccollective.com for more info. 17th September 2011 - Software freedom day -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
Paul Sutton wrote: surely a tool can be written for the gui that does this job. There are tools that handle ping, traceroute, nslookup, whois etc in a small application, so why not one for lsusb, lspci etc it just needs a tabbed gui that can allow 1 button to be pressed the results displayed in a scrollable box, this allows easy copy / paste in to a e-mail or text document. it would make life easier. we need to think from a non techy / geek point of view sometimes. The only difference between this and the terminal is the need to enter the command itself. I don't see the point, personally. I think that, rather than concoct some contrived two-bit GUI to replace all these nice and quick command line tools, it'd likely be worth instead helping these people lose their fear of the command line. These GUI wrappers would only be of use if they were in the default install - there's no point obviating what benefit they might present by first having to talk whoever through installing them. Besides, I don't buy this thing about Windows users being scared of the command line. When I was doing Windows (admittedly XP) desktop support about 80% of my calls started 'press Start+R; now enter CMD'. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Tue, 03 May 2011 11:44:37 +0100, Alan Bell wrote: On 03/05/11 11:26, Jon Reynolds wrote: Well, This is a bit of a rant I'm afraid... need to vent. rant class=frustratedWhat gives with wireless? Why is it such an issue for Ubuntu? 'Almost' every time I perform an apt-get upgrade or in this case, a distribution upgrade, my wireless breaks! I'm getting really fed up of it. Now I don't want to be seen as whinging about something but not helping to fix it, but it has been fixed in the past, as I have been using wifi before on many previous versions on this hardware. But for some reason, my particular wireless h/w, seems to get forgotten about or lost or whatever whenever there is a major upgrade and I have to wait, sometimes several weeks, for one of the upgrades to fix it. Or try various different methods found by googling, which don't all work, which I fear is cluttering up my system. I don't understand how if it is fixed, why that bit of code or whatever it is doesn't just stay put. /rant Right now, after an upgrade to 11,04, I have no wireless devices detected. Its not that I can't connect, I don't even have any wlan detected. Its a Realtek. do lsusb in a terminal and let us know the full line that relates to your wireless device. Is this built in to some kind of laptop? Which model? If it is a certified model or the same wireless device is in a certified model then put that in the bug report. So far this is a rant with out much actionable information, lets get it to a reportable and fixable bug report. Alan. I will perform the actions on my computer tonight. Its a Samsung N130 Netbook. There is someone with a similar problem on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1744668 But their situation is better than mine, they at least have wireless hardware showing up. I will run that diagnostic script to get the same results. Thanks. -- Jon Reynolds (j0nr) http://www.jcrdevelopments.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Tue, 3 May 2011 14:12:26 +0300, Dave Rice wrote: Hi Guys, I know I don't post here very often but I have to pop my two penneth in here, in saying I feel for you both! I recently have been trying to get others to put Ubuntu onto their netbooks (various) and am getting increasingly frustrated with the state of wifi in Ubuntu. Other distros seem to be ahead of the game, but not all mind you. Jon, I have been fighting with a Samsung n210, a rtl8192e, took me three hours to get it working using all sorts of avenues. I finally had to update the kernel and use the 'samsung-wireless' ppa (https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa [4]) to get in anywhere near working. snip I will try that PPA tonight. Mine is a Samsung Realtek RTL8192E on a N130 Netbook. -- Jon Reynolds (j0nr) http://www.jcrdevelopments.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On 03/05/11 13:04, Avi Greenbury wrote: Besides, I don't buy this thing about Windows users being scared of the command line. When I was doing Windows (admittedly XP) desktop support about 80% of my calls started 'press Start+R; now enter CMD'. Even with Windows 7, there's still a fair bit of CL stuff still being used in the MS Forums... -- My Alternative Computing Blog http://gbplinuxfoss.blogspot.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On 3 May 2011 13:06, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/05/11 13:04, Avi Greenbury wrote: Besides, I don't buy this thing about Windows users being scared of the command line. When I was doing Windows (admittedly XP) desktop support about 80% of my calls started 'press Start+R; now enter CMD'. Even with Windows 7, there's still a fair bit of CL stuff still being used in the MS Forums... -- My Alternative Computing Blog -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Command line methods are good for giving for supporting other people (particularly over the phone) because it's much more unambiguous to say 'type lsusb' and then ask the person to read back the response than to say 'click on the menu button, then find the control panel item and click on it, then look for an icon labelled hardware'... Sam -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Tue, 03 May 2011 13:03:03 +0100, Jon Reynolds wrote: I will run that diagnostic script to get the same results. Thanks. The output of that script...no signs of wireless devices: [code] Version: 1.1 (Development) Mon May 2 21:33:17 BST 2011 *** Running networking services *** NetworkManager is running Ubuntu release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=natty DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Ubuntu 11.04 Kernel Linux jonr-netbook 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux List of drivers Module Size Used by parport_pc 32111 0 binfmt_misc13213 1 ppdev 12849 0 snd_hda_codec_realtek 255820 1 snd_hda_intel 24140 2 snd_hda_codec 90901 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 13274 1 snd_hda_codec snd_pcm80244 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_seq_midi 13132 0 snd_rawmidi25269 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 14475 1 snd_seq_midi i915 450944 3 snd_seq51291 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event joydev 17322 0 snd_timer 28659 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq samsung_laptop 13148 0 snd_seq_device 14110 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq drm_kms_helper 40745 1 i915 uvcvideo 66851 0 videodev 75143 1 uvcvideo psmouse73312 0 snd55295 13 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device drm 180037 4 i915,drm_kms_helper serio_raw 12990 0 i2c_algo_bit 13184 1 i915 soundcore 12600 1 snd video 18951 1 i915 snd_page_alloc 14073 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm lp 13349 0 parport36746 3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp r8169 42534 0 pci wireless devices 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01) Subsystem: Askey Computer Corp. Device [144f:7160] Kernel modules: r8192e_pci 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev 02) usb wireless devices List of network devices *-network UNCLAIMED description: Network controller product: RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:02:00.0 version: 01 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list configuration: latency=0 resources: ioport:2000(size=256) memory:f010-f0103fff *-network description: Ethernet interface product: RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:03:00.0 logical name: eth0 version: 02 serial: 00:24:54:3c:66:5a size: 100Mbit/s capacity: 100Mbit/s width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=full ip=192.168.0.12 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s resources: irq:42 ioport:3000(size=256) memory:f051-f0510fff memory:f050-f050 memory:f052-f053 network info eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:24:54:3c:66:5a inet addr:192.168.0.12 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::224:54ff:fe3c:665a/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1880 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1859 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:1883658 (1.8 MB) TX
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
Isn't there a wireless device under PCI devices? Seems to me there's a Realtek card. On May 3, 2011 9:28 PM, Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.com wrote: On Tue, 03 May 2011 13:03:03 +0100, Jon Reynolds wrote: I will run that diagnostic script to get the same results. Thanks. The output of that script...no signs of wireless devices: [code] Version: 1.1 (Development) Mon May 2 21:33:17 BST 2011 *** Running networking services *** NetworkManager is running Ubuntu release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=natty DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Ubuntu 11.04 Kernel Linux jonr-netbook 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux List of drivers Module Size Used by parport_pc 32111 0 binfmt_misc 13213 1 ppdev 12849 0 snd_hda_codec_realtek 255820 1 snd_hda_intel 24140 2 snd_hda_codec 90901 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 13274 1 snd_hda_codec snd_pcm 80244 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_seq_midi 13132 0 snd_rawmidi 25269 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 14475 1 snd_seq_midi i915 450944 3 snd_seq 51291 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event joydev 17322 0 snd_timer 28659 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq samsung_laptop 13148 0 snd_seq_device 14110 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq drm_kms_helper 40745 1 i915 uvcvideo 66851 0 videodev 75143 1 uvcvideo psmouse 73312 0 snd 55295 13 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device drm 180037 4 i915,drm_kms_helper serio_raw 12990 0 i2c_algo_bit 13184 1 i915 soundcore 12600 1 snd video 18951 1 i915 snd_page_alloc 14073 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm lp 13349 0 parport 36746 3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp r8169 42534 0 pci wireless devices 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01) Subsystem: Askey Computer Corp. Device [144f:7160] Kernel modules: r8192e_pci 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev 02) usb wireless devices List of network devices *-network UNCLAIMED description: Network controller product: RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:02:00.0 version: 01 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list configuration: latency=0 resources: ioport:2000(size=256) memory:f010-f0103fff *-network description: Ethernet interface product: RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:03:00.0 logical name: eth0 version: 02 serial: 00:24:54:3c:66:5a size: 100Mbit/s capacity: 100Mbit/s width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=full ip=192.168.0.12 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s resources: irq:42 ioport:3000(size=256) memory:f051-f0510fff memory:f050-f050 memory:f052-f053 network info eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:24:54:3c:66:5a inet addr:192.168.0.12 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::224:54ff:fe3c:665a/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1880 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1859 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:1883658 (1.8 MB) TX bytes:337299 (337.2 KB) Interrupt:42 Base address:0x2000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:720 (720.0 B) TX bytes:720 (720.0 B) Wireless specific network info lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
Sorry about the double post but I'm going to quote the section. It's a pain on a mobile. pci wireless devices 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01) Subsystem: Askey Computer Corp. Device [144f:7160] Kernel modules: r8192e_pci 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev 02) On May 3, 2011 11:13 PM, Kris Douglas krisdoug...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't there a wireless device under PCI devices? Seems to me there's a Realtek card. On May 3, 2011 9:28 PM, Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.com wrote: On Tue, 03 May 2011 13:03:03 +0100, Jon Reynolds wrote: I will run that diagnostic script to get the same results. Thanks. The output of that script...no signs of wireless devices: [code] Version: 1.1 (Development) Mon May 2 21:33:17 BST 2011 *** Running networking services *** NetworkManager is running Ubuntu release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=natty DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Ubuntu 11.04 Kernel Linux jonr-netbook 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux List of drivers Module Size Used by parport_pc 32111 0 binfmt_misc 13213 1 ppdev 12849 0 snd_hda_codec_realtek 255820 1 snd_hda_intel 24140 2 snd_hda_codec 90901 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 13274 1 snd_hda_codec snd_pcm 80244 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_seq_midi 13132 0 snd_rawmidi 25269 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 14475 1 snd_seq_midi i915 450944 3 snd_seq 51291 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event joydev 17322 0 snd_timer 28659 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq samsung_laptop 13148 0 snd_seq_device 14110 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq drm_kms_helper 40745 1 i915 uvcvideo 66851 0 videodev 75143 1 uvcvideo psmouse 73312 0 snd 55295 13 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device drm 180037 4 i915,drm_kms_helper serio_raw 12990 0 i2c_algo_bit 13184 1 i915 soundcore 12600 1 snd video 18951 1 i915 snd_page_alloc 14073 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm lp 13349 0 parport 36746 3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp r8169 42534 0 pci wireless devices 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01) Subsystem: Askey Computer Corp. Device [144f:7160] Kernel modules: r8192e_pci 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev 02) usb wireless devices List of network devices *-network UNCLAIMED description: Network controller product: RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:02:00.0 version: 01 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list configuration: latency=0 resources: ioport:2000(size=256) memory:f010-f0103fff *-network description: Ethernet interface product: RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:03:00.0 logical name: eth0 version: 02 serial: 00:24:54:3c:66:5a size: 100Mbit/s capacity: 100Mbit/s width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=full ip=192.168.0.12 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s resources: irq:42 ioport:3000(size=256) memory:f051-f0510fff memory:f050-f050 memory:f052-f053 network info eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:24:54:3c:66:5a inet addr:192.168.0.12 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::224:54ff:fe3c:665a/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1880 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX
