Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 20:19 +0100, Alan Bell wrote: On 14/04/12 16:31, Bill Baker wrote: Alan, would it be accwptable to ask for one purely on the basis that when saying you really ought to try this to those I'm trying to convert - it is more convincing / professional to show a cd from a professonal covered CD wrapper? After all - many years ago - that's how I got here. It worked for me - and still works for others - break the barrier convince of the goodness! If an acceptable reason for nicking one our copies I will gladly spend the postage etc. Regards, Bill B. [SuperEngineer] -- -Registered Linux User 523667- -Registered Ubuntu User 32366- -Free as in Freedom-- absolutely fine, I am more than happy to stuff an envelope with as many as will fit for you to hand out. Anyone who has an organized means to hand out lots of them can ask for a box of 75 (folk who do computer fairs, have a shop or work in a university or whatever, just tell me how you are going to get them distributed and you can have them) Alan. -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, find out about our new name and look at http://libertus.co.uk Alan, So there I was prepping send reply envelopes... when - whoops, don't even have an address to send to! [feel free to reply to my own email with pertinent address]. doh! Regards, Bill B. [SuperEngineer] -- -Registered Linux User 523667- -Registered Ubuntu User 32366- -Free as in Freedom-- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
On 16/04/12 18:25, Liam Proven wrote: On 16 April 2012 16:20, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: What's wrong with not wanting to scroll miles to the bottom of the mail to read the latest post? Top posting and bottom posting/in line comments have context sensitive benefits. If there are no in line comments or no logical sequence, or much detail, in discussion, then bottom posting can be tedious, if not even silly. In my family emails it would be inappropriate to bottom post. Also in my previous business experience in a major water company for 10 years, emails had a stand alone status, and a displayed thread showed the latest email at the top. In a technical forum, or other environment where discussions are very likely to have a logical sequence, and often a discussion thread with many comments, then in line comments and bottom posting have a strong benefit. If a convention in a forum is maintained, it is easy to know what to expect, so conventions are defended and promoted. -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
On 17/04/12 07:40, alan c wrote: On 16/04/12 18:25, Liam Proven wrote: On 16 April 2012 16:20, Gareth Francegareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: What's wrong with not wanting to scroll miles to the bottom of the mail to read the latest post? Top posting and bottom posting/in line comments have context sensitive benefits. If there are no in line comments or no logical sequence, or much detail, in discussion, then bottom posting can be tedious, if not even silly. In my family emails it would be inappropriate to bottom post. Also in my previous business experience in a major water company for 10 years, emails had a stand alone status, and a displayed thread showed the latest email at the top. In a technical forum, or other environment where discussions are very likely to have a logical sequence, and often a discussion thread with many comments, then in line comments and bottom posting have a strong benefit. If a convention in a forum is maintained, it is easy to know what to expect, so conventions are defended and promoted. Makes sense. Bottom posting has always seemed counter intuitive to me. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
On 17 Apr 2012, at 07:40, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: ...In a technical forum, or other environment where discussions are very likely to have a logical sequence, and often a discussion thread with many comments, then in line comments and bottom posting have a strong benefit. A lot of good sense in your comments, Alan. One thing I'd want to add: it's really helpful to edit what you quote, so there's just enough - and only enough - to provide the context to let readers understand what you're replying too. Plonking a comment - whether at the bottom or the top - of 100 lines of 'House that Jack Built' exchanges is just lazy and inconsiderate. mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
On 17/04/12 07:49, Gareth France wrote: On 17/04/12 07:40, alan c wrote: In a technical forum, or other environment where discussions are very likely to have a logical sequence, and often a discussion thread with many comments, then in line comments and bottom posting have a strong benefit. If a convention in a forum is maintained, it is easy to know what to expect, so conventions are defended and promoted. Makes sense. Bottom posting has always seemed counter intuitive to me. It may seem counter intuitive, but it has been pointed out on this list at few times already this year. The same way snipping the top of a long reply before posting is also nice to do. wonder how many times this year we're going to have a Top v Bottom thread discussion on here :-) Laura -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
I'll need a box please. Now I just need to shift the remaining ones somehow... On 15/04/12 20:19, Alan Bell wrote: On 14/04/12 16:31, Bill Baker wrote: Alan, would it be accwptable to ask for one purely on the basis that when saying you really ought to try this to those I'm trying to convert - it is more convincing / professional to show a cd from a professonal covered CD wrapper? After all - many years ago - that's how I got here. It worked for me - and still works for others - break the barrier convince of the goodness! If an acceptable reason for nicking one our copies I will gladly spend the postage etc. Regards, Bill B. [SuperEngineer] -- -Registered Linux User 523667- -Registered Ubuntu User 32366- -Free as in Freedom-- absolutely fine, I am more than happy to stuff an envelope with as many as will fit for you to hand out. Anyone who has an organized means to hand out lots of them can ask for a box of 75 (folk who do computer fairs, have a shop or work in a university or whatever, just tell me how you are going to get them distributed and you can have them) Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
On 16 Apr 2012, at 08:29, Gareth France wrote: I'll need a box please. Now I just need to shift the remaining ones somehow... On 15/04/12 20:19, Alan Bell wrote: On 14/04/12 16:31, Bill Baker wrote: Alan, would it be accwptable to ask for one purely on the basis that when saying you really ought to try this to those I'm trying to convert - it is more convincing / professional to show a cd from a professonal covered CD wrapper? After all - many years ago - that's how I got here. It worked for me - and still works for others - break the barrier convince of the goodness! If an acceptable reason for nicking one our copies I will gladly spend the postage etc. absolutely fine, I am more than happy to stuff an envelope with as many as will fit for you to hand out. Anyone who has an organized means to hand out lots of them can ask for a box of 75 (folk who do computer fairs, have a shop or work in a university or whatever, just tell me how you are going to get them distributed and you can have them) Alan. Would you be able to send me a few as well, and Gareth, please don't top-post thanks JACOB MANSFIELD / Lead Developer Blue Sapphire Media email: ja...@bluesapphiremedia.co.uk skype: jacob.mansfield -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
On 16/04/12 10:09, Jacob Mansfield wrote: On 16 Apr 2012, at 08:29, Gareth France wrote: I'll need a box please. Now I just need to shift the remaining ones somehow... On 15/04/12 20:19, Alan Bell wrote: On 14/04/12 16:31, Bill Baker wrote: Alan, would it be accwptable to ask for one purely on the basis that when saying you really ought to try this to those I'm trying to convert - it is more convincing / professional to show a cd from a professonal covered CD wrapper? After all - many years ago - that's how I got here. It worked for me - and still works for others - break the barrier convince of the goodness! If an acceptable reason for nicking one our copies I will gladly spend the postage etc. absolutely fine, I am more than happy to stuff an envelope with as many as will fit for you to hand out. Anyone who has an organized means to hand out lots of them can ask for a box of 75 (folk who do computer fairs, have a shop or work in a university or whatever, just tell me how you are going to get them distributed and you can have them) Alan. Would you be able to send me a few as well, and Gareth, please don't top-post thanks Blue Sapphire Media *Jacob Mansfield* / Lead Developer Blue Sapphire Media http://www.bluesapphiremedia.co.uk *email:* ja...@bluesapphiremedia.co.uk mailto:ja...@bluesapphiremedia.co.uk *skype:* jacob.mansfield skype:jacob.mansfield?userinfo Call Me skype:jacob.mansfield?call What's wrong with not wanting to scroll miles to the bottom of the mail to read the latest post? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
On 16/04/12 18:25, Liam Proven wrote: On 16 April 2012 16:20, Gareth Francegareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: What's wrong with not wanting to scroll miles to the bottom of the mail to read the latest post? [a] This is a version of the canonical explanation: A: It reverses the normal flow of conversation. Q: What's wrong with top-posting? A: Top-posting. Q: What's the biggest scourge on plain text email discussions? [b] Smart email clients can collapse text from posts you've already read. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 Then let's ditch thunderbird for something smart. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
On 14/04/12 16:31, Bill Baker wrote: Alan, would it be accwptable to ask for one purely on the basis that when saying you really ought to try this to those I'm trying to convert - it is more convincing / professional to show a cd from a professonal covered CD wrapper? After all - many years ago - that's how I got here. It worked for me - and still works for others - break the barrier convince of the goodness! If an acceptable reason for nicking one our copies I will gladly spend the postage etc. Regards, Bill B. [SuperEngineer] -- -Registered Linux User 523667- -Registered Ubuntu User 32366- -Free as in Freedom-- absolutely fine, I am more than happy to stuff an envelope with as many as will fit for you to hand out. Anyone who has an organized means to hand out lots of them can ask for a box of 75 (folk who do computer fairs, have a shop or work in a university or whatever, just tell me how you are going to get them distributed and you can have them) Alan. -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, find out about our new name and look at http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
On Tue, 2012-04-10 at 10:30 +0100, Alan Bell wrote: Hi all, I am now accepting pre-orders for CDs of the Ubuntu 12.04 release. Please email me off-list for the address to send your stamped addressed envelope and I will put these to one side and send out CDs as soon as I get them. CDs are free, you just pay for postage both ways (two second large stamps) Alan. -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, find out about our new name and look at http://libertus.co.uk Alan, would it be accwptable to ask for one purely on the basis that when saying you really ought to try this to those I'm trying to convert - it is more convincing / professional to show a cd from a professonal covered CD wrapper? After all - many years ago - that's how I got here. It worked for me - and still works for others - break the barrier convince of the goodness! If an acceptable reason for nicking one our copies I will gladly spend the postage etc. Regards, Bill B. [SuperEngineer] -- -Registered Linux User 523667- -Registered Ubuntu User 32366- -Free as in Freedom-- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
On 14/04/12 16:31, Bill Baker wrote: Registered Ubuntu User 32366 Not related but how do you Registered Ubuntu User 32366 ? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
Pardon? On 14/04/12 18:56, Pete Smout wrote: On 14/04/12 16:31, Bill Baker wrote: Registered Ubuntu User 32366 Not related but how do you Registered Ubuntu User 32366 ? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
On Sat, 2012-04-14 at 18:56 +0100, Pete Smout wrote: On 14/04/12 16:31, Bill Baker wrote: Registered Ubuntu User 32366 Not related but how do you Registered Ubuntu User 32366 ? It was a thing started a long time ago [ now forgotten, I fear] http://counter.li.org/ Silver Fox also started an Ubuntu users counter if you're inrested, as I recall - quite a while back -both may or mayu not still be active. Nice to see I'm not the only one proud of what I'm using! Regards, Bill B. [SuperEngineer] -- -Registered Linux User 523667- -Registered Ubuntu User 32366- -Free as in Freedom-- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
Does this ability spread to other flavours of the family, or just Ubuntu? The artwork for Lubuntu 12.04 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing is this possible and at what cost / CD? Thanks, Phill. On 15 April 2012 00:10, Bill Baker boo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 2012-04-14 at 18:56 +0100, Pete Smout wrote: On 14/04/12 16:31, Bill Baker wrote: Registered Ubuntu User 32366 Not related but how do you Registered Ubuntu User 32366 ? It was a thing started a long time ago [ now forgotten, I fear] http://counter.li.org/ Silver Fox also started an Ubuntu users counter if you're inrested, as I recall - quite a while back -both may or mayu not still be active. Nice to see I'm not the only one proud of what I'm using! Regards, Bill B. [SuperEngineer] -- -Registered Linux User 523667- -Registered Ubuntu User 32366- -Free as in Freedom-- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
Hi all, I am now accepting pre-orders for CDs of the Ubuntu 12.04 release. Please email me off-list for the address to send your stamped addressed envelope and I will put these to one side and send out CDs as soon as I get them. CDs are free, you just pay for postage both ways (two second large stamps) Alan. -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, find out about our new name and look at http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders
On 10/04/12 10:46, James Thomas wrote: Are there going to be any knocking around at the Release Party? Cheers JT not official printed ones, the final image that gets pressed is only ready on release day, they then get manufactured, normally in Holland and shipped over. Alan. -- Libertus Solutions http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
