Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dells with Ubuntu

2007-05-31 Thread Eamonn Sullivan
On 5/30/07, Pete Ryland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 30/05/07, Dianne Reuby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I Stumbled this website last night http://efficientpc.co.uk/ - selling
  Ubuntu pre-installed in the UK.

 I'm sure there's a handful of small companies doing this already, but
 nice to know there's another!

 Interestingly, their top offering under the MythTV category:

 http://efficientpc.co.uk/index.php?cPath=23

 contains a Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual card which is not 100% working in
 Linux yet.

Interesting point. I was looking carefully at their dual-tuner
offering, since they're selling it for probably less than it would
cost me to build one. But I don't want to buy something that doesn't
work. Can you be more specific about what's not working right now with
those tuner cards?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dells with Ubuntu

2007-05-31 Thread Pete Ryland
On 31/05/07, Eamonn Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/30/07, Pete Ryland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  contains a Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual card which is not 100% working in
  Linux yet.

 Interesting point. I was looking carefully at their dual-tuner
 offering, since they're selling it for probably less than it would
 cost me to build one. But I don't want to buy something that doesn't
 work. Can you be more specific about what's not working right now with
 those tuner cards?

It's implemented in hardware as a pci device containing a usb hub with
two tuners.  There's a bug in the kernel usb-core code which causes
kernel oopsen under certain conditions!  While the oops was fixed (in
the latest v4l-dvb, which you'll have to compile yourself from
Mercurial), it can still get the usb disconnect event randomly or just
fail to read from or write to the device.  Turning off EIT (which
contains program information encoded in the stream itself) seems to
reduce the frequency of the failures, but it is still remarkably
flakey even then.  Restarting myth-backend (and sometimes reloading
the modules) is necessary to get it working again.  Rather annoying if
you had set it to record stuff while away on holiday or something!

So, basically it works well, but will stop working randomly from time
to time, and can still sometimes cause a kernel oops.

Pete

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dells with Ubuntu

2007-05-30 Thread Mark Harrison
Alec Wright wrote:

 It's not about the price. It's about not giving money to Microsoft for
 something you're not going to use. It's about not having to bother about
 installing Ubuntu yourself. It's about being guaranteed Ubuntu
 compatible hardware.
   

It may not be about price to YOU.

It certainly is about price for a lot of people.

M.

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[ubuntu-uk] Dells with Ubuntu

2007-05-30 Thread Dianne Reuby
I Stumbled this website last night http://efficientpc.co.uk/ - selling
Ubuntu pre-installed in the UK.

IMPORTANT NOTE (excuse my shout!) - I don't know anything about this
firm, I haven't bought anything from them, I don't know anyone who's
bought from them. :) 

I'm not making a recommendation, just passing on information.

Dianne Reuby


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dells with Ubuntu

2007-05-30 Thread Alec Wright
On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 08:50 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote:
 
 It may not be about price to YOU.
 
 It certainly is about price for a lot of people.
 
 M.
Well, to me, £30 extra or whatever it is is worth it if you're getting
compatible hardware, and not having to go through the hassle of
installing ubuntu etc.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dells with Ubuntu

2007-05-30 Thread Pete Ryland
On 30/05/07, Dianne Reuby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I Stumbled this website last night http://efficientpc.co.uk/ - selling
 Ubuntu pre-installed in the UK.

I'm sure there's a handful of small companies doing this already, but
nice to know there's another!

Interestingly, their top offering under the MythTV category:

http://efficientpc.co.uk/index.php?cPath=23

contains a Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual card which is not 100% working in
Linux yet.

Pete

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[ubuntu-uk] Dells with Ubuntu

2007-05-26 Thread luxxius
Anyone going to USA soon?

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=uscs=19l=ens=dhs~ck=mn

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dells with Ubuntu

2007-05-26 Thread LeeUKHA
Why bother?

I just compared a Vista vs. Fiesty Inspiron laptop and the answer is

It's (like for like*) $29 cheaper to buy a Vista laptop and install 
Fiesty on it yourself...

Jeez... only Dell could replace a $40 OS with a free one and make it $69 
more expensive...  I really despair sometimes

Lee
*The headline Ubuntu laptop comes with half the memory and integrated 
graphics...


luxxius wrote:
 Anyone going to USA soon?

 http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=uscs=19l=ens=dhs~ck=mn

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dells with Ubuntu

2007-05-26 Thread Alec Wright
On Sat, 2007-05-26 at 11:28 +0100, LeeUKHA wrote:
 Why bother?
 
 I just compared a Vista vs. Fiesty Inspiron laptop and the answer is
 
 It's (like for like*) $29 cheaper to buy a Vista laptop and install 
 Fiesty on it yourself...
 
 Jeez... only Dell could replace a $40 OS with a free one and make it $69 
 more expensive...  I really despair sometimes
 
 Lee
 *The headline Ubuntu laptop comes with half the memory and integrated 
 graphics...

It's not about the price. It's about not giving money to Microsoft for
something you're not going to use. It's about not having to bother about
installing Ubuntu yourself. It's about being guaranteed Ubuntu
compatible hardware.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dells with Ubuntu

2007-05-26 Thread LeeUKHA

 Why bother?

 I just compared a Vista vs. Fiesty Inspiron laptop and the answer is

 It's (like for like*) $29 cheaper to buy a Vista laptop and install 
 Fiesty on it yourself...

 Jeez... only Dell could replace a $40 OS with a free one and make it $69 
 more expensive...  I really despair sometimes

 Lee
 *The headline Ubuntu laptop comes with half the memory and integrated 
 graphics...
 

 It's not about the price. It's about not giving money to Microsoft for
 something you're not going to use. It's about not having to bother about
 installing Ubuntu yourself. It's about being guaranteed Ubuntu
 compatible hardware.
   
But it is about the price, Mr. Average isn't going to try this 'new 
Ubuntu thing' if it's going to cost him an extra $29 on top of the price 
of his new Dell...  If it's $50 cheaper, he'll sure as hell think about 
it... and the more you get thinking about it the better...




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