Re: [ubuntu-uk] Evolution's compulsory GPG routine (not)
If it's asking about the default keyring, this is due to having automatic login enabled - - It unlocks the keyring when you type your login password, which doesn't happen if you have auto-login enabled. The only thing you can do about this, as far as I know, is to disable automatic login. >> > If it's asking about the default keyring, this is due to having automatic >> > login enabled - - It unlocks the keyring when you type your login >> > password, which doesn't happen if you have auto-login enabled. The only >> > thing you can do about this, as far as I know, is to disable automatic >> > login. >> >> You're absolutely right, Vinu (you and the other person who made this point when I first brought it up) -- it wasn't the GPG keyring, it was the 'default keyring,' and the explanation is indeed the auto login. I see it now. However, in one respect Thunderbird is even worse than Evolution, and that is on the matter of notifications. If you have the Windows List running on one of your panels, then at least with Evo the minimised window for the Inbox will show a number in brackets to tell you you have unread mail. Thunderbird's minimised Inbox window will not even do that. Not that that makes any difference when the number in brackets will be in black print on a black background, as is currently the case with my panel, an annoying feature that only applies to printed words in the panel, not to icons. What we need is what Outlook Express does for Microsoft Windows: it puts a postal envelope icon into the system tray when you have unread mail, and only then, so you know without having to touch the keyboard whether you have unread mail or not. We need a plugin to do that here. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Evolution's compulsory GPG routine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 15:36 +0100, vinu wrote: > >> Assuming it IS gnome-keyring, somewhere in the repositories is a >> package that will unlock your default keyring on login and lock it >> again when you log out, to defeat this very problem. I've been using >> it for quite a while, now. If, on the other hand, it's the GPG, you >> can disable it in your Evo preferences. > > It's just Evo; every time I start it, it says more or less "the > application 'evolution' wants to access the GPG keyring but it is > locked." I have looked a good few times at the Evo preferences but I > cannot see any way to disable this, so, Vinu, please tell me > specifically how to do it. > > Also, I have gone and deleted the Evo applet from the Gnome panel, and > so I am not getting new email notifications (except for a momentary > balloon). I would like to put the applet back, but it isn't listed in > 'add/remove from panel.' Can anyone tell me how? > > Sorry, it's nagging when it opens? I've never encountered this with the GPG keyring, though it has been known to ask to unlock the "default keyring" each time it opens (not *quite* the same). If it's asking about the default keyring, this is due to having automatic login enabled - - It unlocks the keyring when you type your login password, which doesn't happen if you have auto-login enabled. The only thing you can do about this, as far as I know, is to disable automatic login. You'll need to go into the settings for each of your mail accounts (if you have more that one) and unset everything relevant on the security tab. That includes removing the key fingerprint from the box. As far as I recall, this will prevent Evo interfacing with GPG at all. > Thunderbird is much easier to use than Evo, anyway, so I shall scrap > Evo and use Thunderbird. I would like to add that because I arrived at a similar conclusion a couple of weeks ago, I'm working form memory about Evolution. Vinu PS apologies for the delayed response. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpXWn0ACgkQKYNUyjOGQGSWHACgz6IPu2XIX4qAxeoYNE+0pqV3 RFsAnA0V4BJYh/HOLB5qXPH1VWhlDDDI =haqB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Evolution's compulsory GPG routine
Thunderbird is much easier to use than Evo, anyway, so I shall scrap Evo and use Thunderbird. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Evolution's compulsory GPG routine
I said earlier: "I have gone and deleted the Evo applet from the Gnome panel, and so I am not getting new email notifications (except for a momentary balloon). I would like to put the applet back, but it isn't listed in 'add/remove from panel.' Can anyone tell me how?" I have now realised that what I had gone and deleted was the entire Window List, not just the specific applet showing that Evo was running and whether it had any new mail in its inbox, so I've fixed that. Vinu, you said: "Somewhere in the repositories is a package that will unlock your default keyring on login and lock it again when you log out. I've been using it for quite a while, now." Please try to identify this and tell us what it is (as well as telling me how you disabled GPG in the Evo Preferences). One final question: suppose you have a solid black background on your desktop, and solid black panels too. Icons will still be visible because they are now black but coloured, but how can you change the colour of words that appear in the panel, from black-on-black which is invisible, to white? I know it can be done, because I somehow managed it on the Linux Certified machine. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Evolution's compulsory GPG routine
On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 15:36 +0100, vinu wrote: > Assuming it IS gnome-keyring, somewhere in the repositories is a > package that will unlock your default keyring on login and lock it > again when you log out, to defeat this very problem. I've been using > it for quite a while, now. If, on the other hand, it's the GPG, you > can disable it in your Evo preferences. It's just Evo; every time I start it, it says more or less "the application 'evolution' wants to access the GPG keyring but it is locked." I have looked a good few times at the Evo preferences but I cannot see any way to disable this, so, Vinu, please tell me specifically how to do it. Also, I have gone and deleted the Evo applet from the Gnome panel, and so I am not getting new email notifications (except for a momentary balloon). I would like to put the applet back, but it isn't listed in 'add/remove from panel.' Can anyone tell me how? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Evolution's compulsory GPG routine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciarán Mooney wrote: > Hi, > > What you describe sounds more like the Gnome Keyring rather than any > GPG-based program. > > They keyring is what stores your passwords etc, it is used for WEP/WPA > keys along with any other password in the system. > > I'm guessing that you have passwords in Evolution to your email > accounts etc, and these are protected by the Gnome Keyring > application. Evolution has to request access in someway to be able to > download your email. > > This is a guess, hope it points you in the right direction. > > Ciarán > Assuming it IS gnome-keyring, somewhere in the repositories is a package that will unlock your default keyring on login and lock it again when you log out, to defeat this very problem. I've been using it for quite a while, now. If, on the other hand, it's the GPG, you can disable it in your Evo preferences. Vinu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpV5WsACgkQKYNUyjOGQGSraACgq2vM3IbvtyiaPUMAOn6hP/DZ kDYAnRLkg2EMQgR+Y4aRw5ew4VfJ5K7Q =0JPd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Evolution's compulsory GPG routine
Hi, What you describe sounds more like the Gnome Keyring rather than any GPG-based program. They keyring is what stores your passwords etc, it is used for WEP/WPA keys along with any other password in the system. I'm guessing that you have passwords in Evolution to your email accounts etc, and these are protected by the Gnome Keyring application. Evolution has to request access in someway to be able to download your email. This is a guess, hope it points you in the right direction. Ciarán -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Evolution's compulsory GPG routine
Hello everybody. I'm now using my new Linux Emporium Thinkpad, and very nice it is too -- it accepts Ubuntu updates, without immediately disabling itself the way the Linux Certified machine used to do. However, my usual problems with default Ubuntu clients have returned, especially the compulsory GPG routine in Evolution -- in fact, it's worse now, because I already created a keyring and code blocks for the Linux Certified machine, and I do not know whether these are retained at some database somewhere out there (apart from on that now dead machine, which I have returned to the suppliers). I simply do not want or need GPG anyway -- is there no way I can stop Evolution from demanding I run it every time, or must I keep pressing 'deny' ad infinitum? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
