Re: [ubuntu-uk] Eyecandy in Ubuntu Feisty Vs. Vista Aero

2007-06-13 Thread Matthew Larsen
I really dont get the deal with all the fancy effects. Yeah they are
awesome from time-to-time (like showing off to mates) but I find them
so irritating a lot more of the time. I just couldnt wrap my mind
around windows vista when running the beta, the interface just made
things 90X harder for me. It also slowed the machine down to hell.

With ubuntu the xgl stuff is a lot spiffier and quicker, but still I
get annoyed with it all. The features I did like were displaying
thumbnails of all the open windows and easy placing of stuff in the
cube, but there were so many bugs running xgl anyway I had to take it
off. (things like openGL apps that ran on top of xgl were going crazy,
multiple desktop support is a bit off, sessions etc etc)

Until a lot of the HCI stuff is sorted out with it I will stick to how
it is now :) If they can figure out a way to make it like minority
report I will DEFINITELY switch. For now I see it as more of a
glossing up of the desktop instead of anything particularly useful.
The idea of rendering the desktop in openGL is a fantastic idea
though, i'm not putting anyone down for that - just get that bit
working first before adding raindrops and snow.

Regards,

On 08/06/07, Skeg Fast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hear ya!
>
> I've converted a lot of people to Linux just from them sitting and
> watching me use Kubuntu with Beryl on a 4 year old desktop.
>
> "Yeah, my desktop struggles with Vista too"...
> (Spins cube).
> "No, this isn't Vista"
> (Spins cube some more+transparent stuff).
> "Yeah, from 2004, Athlon XP"
> (Hits keys to show off some of the more unusable Beryl effects)
> "No, it's completely free. Even the snow effect is included"
>
>
> Works like a charm :D (Tho after packing them off with a Kubuntu CD I
> warn them that if they're using a USB ADSL modem (as I do on my home
> server) then I'll probably have to visit :() No need to explain the
> other benefits of using Linux - the spinny cube thing does it every time :)
>
> My XP partition is nothing more than a glorified games console for
> FlightSim now. And the only time I ever need a second monitor is for
> some of the more complicated overhead panels in FS (And yes, I've tried
> FlightGear but it's just not the same class :()
>
>
>
>
> Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:
> > Well, I just found desktop effects...
> >
> > What an awesome, awesome demo for Linux.  My laptop is an old HP (Circa 
> > 2002) with 512Mb RAM, a P3 1.5 Intel mobile and an onboard ATI ProSavage 
> > DDR3 and it runs Beryl with all the desktop effects including the 
> > task-switcher, window effects and desktop cube _without slowing down_!!!
> >
> > This is awesome.  The XP/Vista upgrade tool (yes, I dual boot XP, I know, I 
> > know...) basically told me that this laptop was useless and should be 
> > upgraded in just about every way for Aero to work.
> >
> > As a community, I really think that we should be trying to get the fact 
> > that you can make your PC look pretty without paying in as many PC 
> > magazines as possible.  So many reviews I've read of Vista have been "this 
> > is stable, yes it's expensive, BUT LOOK AT THE GRAPHICS".
> >
> > Anyway, just thought I'd let you know how happy I am about Beryl...
> >
> > M.
> > --
> > Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
> > Lug-Master (http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk),
> > Dad (http://www.helpmeimadad.com/),
> > Ubuntu User( http://www.ubuntu.com/)
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Eyecandy in Ubuntu Feisty Vs. Vista Aero

2007-06-07 Thread Skeg Fast
I hear ya!

I've converted a lot of people to Linux just from them sitting and 
watching me use Kubuntu with Beryl on a 4 year old desktop.

"Yeah, my desktop struggles with Vista too"...
(Spins cube).
"No, this isn't Vista"
(Spins cube some more+transparent stuff).
"Yeah, from 2004, Athlon XP"
(Hits keys to show off some of the more unusable Beryl effects)
"No, it's completely free. Even the snow effect is included"


Works like a charm :D (Tho after packing them off with a Kubuntu CD I 
warn them that if they're using a USB ADSL modem (as I do on my home 
server) then I'll probably have to visit :() No need to explain the 
other benefits of using Linux - the spinny cube thing does it every time :)

My XP partition is nothing more than a glorified games console for 
FlightSim now. And the only time I ever need a second monitor is for 
some of the more complicated overhead panels in FS (And yes, I've tried 
FlightGear but it's just not the same class :()




Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:
> Well, I just found desktop effects...
>
> What an awesome, awesome demo for Linux.  My laptop is an old HP (Circa 2002) 
> with 512Mb RAM, a P3 1.5 Intel mobile and an onboard ATI ProSavage DDR3 and 
> it runs Beryl with all the desktop effects including the task-switcher, 
> window effects and desktop cube _without slowing down_!!!
>
> This is awesome.  The XP/Vista upgrade tool (yes, I dual boot XP, I know, I 
> know...) basically told me that this laptop was useless and should be 
> upgraded in just about every way for Aero to work.
>
> As a community, I really think that we should be trying to get the fact that 
> you can make your PC look pretty without paying in as many PC magazines as 
> possible.  So many reviews I've read of Vista have been "this is stable, yes 
> it's expensive, BUT LOOK AT THE GRAPHICS".
>
> Anyway, just thought I'd let you know how happy I am about Beryl...
>
> M.
> --
> Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
> Lug-Master (http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk),
> Dad (http://www.helpmeimadad.com/),
> Ubuntu User( http://www.ubuntu.com/)
>
>
>   


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[ubuntu-uk] Eyecandy in Ubuntu Feisty Vs. Vista Aero

2007-06-07 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace

Well, I just found desktop effects...

What an awesome, awesome demo for Linux.  My laptop is an old HP (Circa 2002) 
with 512Mb RAM, a P3 1.5 Intel mobile and an onboard ATI ProSavage DDR3 and it 
runs Beryl with all the desktop effects including the task-switcher, window 
effects and desktop cube _without slowing down_!!!

This is awesome.  The XP/Vista upgrade tool (yes, I dual boot XP, I know, I 
know...) basically told me that this laptop was useless and should be upgraded 
in just about every way for Aero to work.

As a community, I really think that we should be trying to get the fact that 
you can make your PC look pretty without paying in as many PC magazines as 
possible.  So many reviews I've read of Vista have been "this is stable, yes 
it's expensive, BUT LOOK AT THE GRAPHICS".

Anyway, just thought I'd let you know how happy I am about Beryl...

M.
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Lug-Master (http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk),
Dad (http://www.helpmeimadad.com/),
Ubuntu User( http://www.ubuntu.com/)


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