[ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread alan c
Hardy available now
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread Chris Oattes
alan c said the following on 24/04/08 12:18:
 Hardy available now
I can't see any announcements stating this on the ubuntu-announce 
mailing list, on IRC or on the official site.

What makes you say it is released? Or were you just referring to the 
face that a full upgrade from the RC is 99.9% likely to be the final 
release?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Chris Oattes wrote:
| What makes you say it is released? Or were you just referring to the
| face that a full upgrade from the RC is 99.9% likely to be the final
| release?


The RC files on the have been removed so looks like it's hit the mirrors:

http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread Philip Stubbs
2008/4/24 Chris Oattes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 alan c said the following on 24/04/08 12:18:
   Hardy available now
  I can't see any announcements stating this on the ubuntu-announce
  mailing list, on IRC or on the official site.

  What makes you say it is released? Or were you just referring to the
  face that a full upgrade from the RC is 99.9% likely to be the final
  release?

http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread Chris Oattes
Stephen O'Neill said the following on 24/04/08 13:18:
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 Chris Oattes wrote:
 | What makes you say it is released? Or were you just referring to the
 | face that a full upgrade from the RC is 99.9% likely to be the final
 | release?
 
 
 The RC files on the have been removed so looks like it's hit the mirrors:
 
 http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/

It is generally a Bad Idea to start downloading it before it is 
officially announced. They put the isos on the main mirrors so that the 
other mirrors around the world can start downloading them. If you start 
downloading before the announcement, it takes longer for the necessary 
number of mirrors to get a copy because you steal their bandwidth, and 
therefore delay the release announcement.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread James Westby
On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 13:24 +0100, Chris Oattes wrote:
 It is generally a Bad Idea to start downloading it before it is 
 officially announced. They put the isos on the main mirrors so that the 
 other mirrors around the world can start downloading them. If you start 
 downloading before the announcement, it takes longer for the necessary 
 number of mirrors to get a copy because you steal their bandwidth, and 
 therefore delay the release announcement.

While you are exactly right, and the bandwidth you could get to ubuntu
machines slowed down release work, the point is moot now, as it's
officially released.

Enjoy Hardy everyone.

Thanks,

James


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread Chris Oattes
James Westby said the following on 24/04/08 13:30:
the point is moot now, as it's
 officially released.
 
 Enjoy Hardy everyone.
 
 Thanks,
 
 James
 
 

Yup:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2008-April/000111.html

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread Lucy
On 24/04/2008, James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 it's  officially released.

  Enjoy Hardy everyone.

I've just finished upgrading my work machine. All seemed relatively
painless. The upgrade-manager insisted on 'upgrading' my wallpaper as
normal and image preview icons in nautilus look a bit odd, otherwise
everything seems to work.

Impressed, it all looks quite shiny. The new firefox might take some
getting used to though!

Lucy

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread James Westby
On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 15:00 +0100, Lucy wrote:
 I've just finished upgrading my work machine. All seemed relatively
 painless. The upgrade-manager insisted on 'upgrading' my wallpaper as
 normal and image preview icons in nautilus look a bit odd, otherwise
 everything seems to work.

I'm glad it went smootly for you. We're you using the default wallpaper
before upgrading, or does it force you to use the new default whatever
you are using?

Thanks,

James


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread Lucy
On 24/04/2008, James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 15:00 +0100, Lucy wrote:
   I've just finished upgrading my work machine. All seemed relatively
   painless. The upgrade-manager insisted on 'upgrading' my wallpaper as
   normal and image preview icons in nautilus look a bit odd, otherwise
   everything seems to work.


 I'm glad it went smootly for you. We're you using the default wallpaper
  before upgrading, or does it force you to use the new default whatever
  you are using?

I always use the default and every upgrade it always replaces it with
the new default wallpaper, which sort of makes sense, but is highly
annoying nonetheless. I've not tried it with a customised wallpaper
I'm afraid.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread James Westby
On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 15:13 +0100, Lucy wrote:
 I always use the default and every upgrade it always replaces it with
 the new default wallpaper, which sort of makes sense, but is highly
 annoying nonetheless. I've not tried it with a customised wallpaper
 I'm afraid.
 

I assume that it doesn't do this with a custom wallpaper. There's not
really any way to know whether a user likes the current default, so
it upgrades that for everyone. However it does remove the old default
wallpaper, which isn't ideal.

If you like a particular default one, then you can copy the file
and choose the copied version as your wallpaper, and then that should
be preserved for the next upgrade.

Thanks,

James


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread alan c
Chris Oattes wrote:
 alan c said the following on 24/04/08 12:18:
 Hardy available now
 I can't see any announcements stating this on the ubuntu-announce 
 mailing list, on IRC or on the official site.
 
 What makes you say it is released? Or were you just referring to the 
 face that a full upgrade from the RC is 99.9% likely to be the final 
 release?

belated answer:
the torrent files were on the canonical download site, and torrents 
started working, albeit slowly, at that point
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread Lucy
On 24/04/2008, James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 15:13 +0100, Lucy wrote:
   I always use the default and every upgrade it always replaces it with
   the new default wallpaper, which sort of makes sense, but is highly
   annoying nonetheless. I've not tried it with a customised wallpaper
   I'm afraid.
  


 I assume that it doesn't do this with a custom wallpaper. There's not
  really any way to know whether a user likes the current default, so
  it upgrades that for everyone. However it does remove the old default
  wallpaper, which isn't ideal.

Actually, the old default was still there and I was able to replace it
while it was still upgrading my system. So, not really a problem, just
annoying!

On the plus side, I have noticed that the fonts are looking much
better on my LCD monitor (and I thought they looked fine before).

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