Re: [ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu

2007-01-12 Thread James Dalley
RE: Screen going white after selecting boot option
 
I had a problem identical to this on an old machine I had with Ubuntu Dapper.
After selecting an option from the menu the screen went blank. It turns out 
that the loading screen
was being displayed at a different refresh rate or something that my monitor did
not support so selecting safe made no difference as it still shows the same 
boot progress screen. 
It was still loading and if I waited a couple of mins the login screen would 
appear.
Was never able to solve the problem so had to put up with it, I think there is 
a way you can
switch off the boot splash..
 
Is there drive activity still when the screen goes white, if so wait a few mins 
and see if it still boots.
 
James D (ConvertOne)
_
Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail.
http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu

2007-01-11 Thread Kevin
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 11:17 +, Neil Greenwood wrote:
 I'd report this as a bug in Ubuntu 6.10. Include the hardware details
 and see what happens.

I don't think it's an Ubuntu problem as I downloaded another distro and
the same thing happened.

 Have you tried the safe graphics option?

Yes I did, same thing that's why I'm wondering if it's a hardware fault.

 IIRC, integrated Intel graphics cards have an open-source Intel driver
 available, in other words the open driver supports all functionality
 on the card!

So the integrated Intel graphics would be the best option if I can't
afford a machine with a dedicated card. I may keep this machine for a
bit longer and get a machine with a decent spec. 

-- 
Kevin




-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu

2007-01-10 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 06/01/07, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [snip]
 Well, I can get the live 5.10 running when I choose the vesa graphics
 option but when I try and use either ubuntu/kubuntu 6.10 it fails. I get
 as far as the options menu and then the screen goes white. The int
 graphics are VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP. [snip] The machine itself is an
 Evesham Quest.

I'd report this as a bug in Ubuntu 6.10. Include the hardware details
and see what happens.

Have you tried the safe graphics option?

 [snip]
 One of the machines uses
 the Integrated Intel Extreme Graphics2 Graphics Card and the other the
 Integrated Nvidia 6150 3D Graphics Card (this machine is £20 dearer but
 has other differences beyond the graphics).


IIRC, integrated Intel graphics cards have an open-source Intel driver
available, in other words the open driver supports all functionality
on the card!

 [snip]
 Naturally the first thing I'll do is wipe Windows and Install Linux on
 it but does that machine seem OK? I could put a different graphics card
 in the machine before I wipe out Windows and install Linux of course.

You could always try getting a refund since you're not using the
Windows license you've paid for!
http://community.linux.com/community/07/01/03/227237.shtml?tid=12

Hwyl,
Neil.
-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu

2007-01-06 Thread Kevin
On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 19:46 +, Alan Pope wrote:
 What happens when you try to install on your laptop? What make/model
 is
 it? I don't know many graphics cards (integrated or not) that aren't
 supported in one way or another in Linux.

Well, I can get the live 5.10 running when I choose the vesa graphics
option but when I try and use either ubuntu/kubuntu 6.10 it fails. I get
as far as the options menu and then the screen goes white. The int
graphics are VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP. The machine itself has 512 MB
RAM (some of which is obviously shared) a 40 MB H/D and a built in
DVD/CDRW drive. As you can see everything, bar the graphics is superior
to my desktop. The machine itself is an Evesham Quest.

 Chuck some more memory in it and it would improve considerably. Of
 course the K3-450 isn't blisteringly fast but that spec is exactly
 half
 of the laptop that use daily - a 1GHz Celeron with 512Mb RAM.

TBH I'm a bit loath to spend money on such an ancient machine. I may
wait a while and buy something a bit better. If I'd been staying with
Windows of course I'd end up spending about £1000 but if can get Linux
running with different integrated graphics, such as an Nvidia I can get
one that costs far less than that, about £250. One of the machines uses
the Integrated Intel Extreme Graphics2 Graphics Card and the other the
Integrated Nvidia 6150 3D Graphics Card (this machine is £20 dearer but
has other differences beyond the graphics). 

 If you have the funds to spend on new hardware then that's great, but
 don't worry too much about the integrated graphics. If you find some
 online offer, feel free to mail this list asking if anyone has one or
 if
 anyone can determine whether it will be compatible.

There is another machine it's from a company with a lousy rep though
(it's an EMachine) and I'd be getting it through Morgan so it's probably
a factory restock the specs are Intel Pentium 4 2.93GHz system with MS
Windows XP Media Centre

  * Intel Pentium 4 517 processor (2.93GHz), 512MB DDR RAM 
  * 80GB SATA hard disk and Combination CD-RW and DVD-Rom drive 
  * ATI X200 Radeon shared graphics (up to 128MB shared RAM), 5.1
sound 
  * 56K modem, LAN and USB 2.0 ports

Naturally the first thing I'll do is wipe Windows and Install Linux on
it but does that machine seem OK? I could put a different graphics card
in the machine before I wipe out Windows and install Linux of course.

 Yes, there is an open source driver which works fine on pretty much
 every NVidia card out there. There is also a closed-source binary one
 direct from Nvidia themselves which performs better, but is
 proprietary. 

I think I'd stick with the open source driver if it works OK with the
Integrated Nvidia 6150 3D Graphics Card.

Thanks again for your help.

-- 
Kevin


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


[ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu

2007-01-05 Thread Kevin
Hi,

I'm thinking about getting myself a new PC, it'll be very cheap which of
course means integrated graphics which I believe is pretty much a no-no
as far as Linux is concerned. 

How hard is it to disable this as I have a couple of video cards (albeit
old ones) that I could install into the machine myself. There is also a
slightly more expensive option to have the ASUS EN6200LE TC256/TD 64MB
(PCIX DVI VGA TV-Out)installed which is an integrated graphics card but
comes with 64 MB on the card itself and I was wondering if Linux would
recognise this. 

Thanks for any help/advice

-- 
Kevin


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu

2007-01-05 Thread norman
   
 I'm thinking about getting myself a new PC, it'll be very cheap which of
 course means integrated graphics which I believe is pretty much a no-no
 as far as Linux is concerned. 
 
 How hard is it to disable this as I have a couple of video cards (albeit
 old ones) that I could install into the machine myself. There is also a
 slightly more expensive option to have the ASUS EN6200LE TC256/TD 64MB
 (PCIX DVI VGA TV-Out)installed which is an integrated graphics card but
 comes with 64 MB on the card itself and I was wondering if Linux would
 recognise this. 

If it is any help to you I have recently bought a new PC which was made
to my specification and cost around £300 mark. Graphics and sound are on
the motherboard and I have no trouble in running 06.10. If you want to
use video cards then they would automatically supersede the on board
graphics but may cause you problems in setting them up.

Norman


-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu

2007-01-05 Thread Kevin
On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 18:34 +, norman wrote:
 If it is any help to you I have recently bought a new PC which was
 made to my specification and cost around £300 mark. Graphics and sound
 are on the motherboard and I have no trouble in running 06.10. If you
 want to use video cards then they would automatically supersede the on
 board graphics but may cause you problems in setting them up. 

This is very helpful, thank you. The only reason I wondered about the
integrated graphics was that I have a notebook with that and Linux won't
install on it, everything else about the notebook is better than the
desktop I have Ubuntu installed on at the moment. If you all want a
laugh the specs of the desktop are
K63-450, 256 MB RAM, 10 MB H/D, 8 MB ATI card (yep, it's old), Standard
CD Drive (not a writer), External CD/RW (USB), Zip 250 (USB) OK, have
you all finished laughing yet? As you can see from the specs of the
machine I'm using at the moment pretty much anything would be an upgrade
for me and I won't be playing games on the machine or dual booting with
Windows, it'll be Linux only.The integrated video with the machine I'm
considering is an Nvidia 6100 I imagine this will work without probs as
I believe Linux works with Nvidia cards (even if they are Integrated).

-- 
Kevin 



-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/


Re: [ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu

2007-01-05 Thread Alan Pope
On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 19:27 +, Kevin wrote:

 This is very helpful, thank you. The only reason I wondered about the
 integrated graphics was that I have a notebook with that and Linux won't
 install on it, everything else about the notebook is better than the
 desktop I have Ubuntu installed on at the moment. If you all want a
 laugh the specs of the desktop are

What happens when you try to install on your laptop? What make/model is
it? I don't know many graphics cards (integrated or not) that aren't
supported in one way or another in Linux.

 K63-450, 256 MB RAM, 10 MB H/D, 8 MB ATI card (yep, it's old), Standard
 CD Drive (not a writer), External CD/RW (USB), Zip 250 (USB) OK, have
 you all finished laughing yet?

Chuck some more memory in it and it would improve considerably. Of
course the K3-450 isn't blisteringly fast but that spec is exactly half
of the laptop that use daily - a 1GHz Celeron with 512Mb RAM.

If you have the funds to spend on new hardware then that's great, but
don't worry too much about the integrated graphics. If you find some
online offer, feel free to mail this list asking if anyone has one or if
anyone can determine whether it will be compatible.

 The integrated video with the machine I'm
 considering is an Nvidia 6100 I imagine this will work without probs as
 I believe Linux works with Nvidia cards (even if they are Integrated).

Yes, there is an open source driver which works fine on pretty much
every NVidia card out there. There is also a closed-source binary one
direct from Nvidia themselves which performs better, but is proprietary.

Cheers,
Al.


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
-- 
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/