Re: [ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu
RE: Screen going white after selecting boot option I had a problem identical to this on an old machine I had with Ubuntu Dapper. After selecting an option from the menu the screen went blank. It turns out that the loading screen was being displayed at a different refresh rate or something that my monitor did not support so selecting safe made no difference as it still shows the same boot progress screen. It was still loading and if I waited a couple of mins the login screen would appear. Was never able to solve the problem so had to put up with it, I think there is a way you can switch off the boot splash.. Is there drive activity still when the screen goes white, if so wait a few mins and see if it still boots. James D (ConvertOne) _ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 11:17 +, Neil Greenwood wrote: I'd report this as a bug in Ubuntu 6.10. Include the hardware details and see what happens. I don't think it's an Ubuntu problem as I downloaded another distro and the same thing happened. Have you tried the safe graphics option? Yes I did, same thing that's why I'm wondering if it's a hardware fault. IIRC, integrated Intel graphics cards have an open-source Intel driver available, in other words the open driver supports all functionality on the card! So the integrated Intel graphics would be the best option if I can't afford a machine with a dedicated card. I may keep this machine for a bit longer and get a machine with a decent spec. -- Kevin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu
On 06/01/07, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Well, I can get the live 5.10 running when I choose the vesa graphics option but when I try and use either ubuntu/kubuntu 6.10 it fails. I get as far as the options menu and then the screen goes white. The int graphics are VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP. [snip] The machine itself is an Evesham Quest. I'd report this as a bug in Ubuntu 6.10. Include the hardware details and see what happens. Have you tried the safe graphics option? [snip] One of the machines uses the Integrated Intel Extreme Graphics2 Graphics Card and the other the Integrated Nvidia 6150 3D Graphics Card (this machine is £20 dearer but has other differences beyond the graphics). IIRC, integrated Intel graphics cards have an open-source Intel driver available, in other words the open driver supports all functionality on the card! [snip] Naturally the first thing I'll do is wipe Windows and Install Linux on it but does that machine seem OK? I could put a different graphics card in the machine before I wipe out Windows and install Linux of course. You could always try getting a refund since you're not using the Windows license you've paid for! http://community.linux.com/community/07/01/03/227237.shtml?tid=12 Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu
On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 19:46 +, Alan Pope wrote: What happens when you try to install on your laptop? What make/model is it? I don't know many graphics cards (integrated or not) that aren't supported in one way or another in Linux. Well, I can get the live 5.10 running when I choose the vesa graphics option but when I try and use either ubuntu/kubuntu 6.10 it fails. I get as far as the options menu and then the screen goes white. The int graphics are VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP. The machine itself has 512 MB RAM (some of which is obviously shared) a 40 MB H/D and a built in DVD/CDRW drive. As you can see everything, bar the graphics is superior to my desktop. The machine itself is an Evesham Quest. Chuck some more memory in it and it would improve considerably. Of course the K3-450 isn't blisteringly fast but that spec is exactly half of the laptop that use daily - a 1GHz Celeron with 512Mb RAM. TBH I'm a bit loath to spend money on such an ancient machine. I may wait a while and buy something a bit better. If I'd been staying with Windows of course I'd end up spending about £1000 but if can get Linux running with different integrated graphics, such as an Nvidia I can get one that costs far less than that, about £250. One of the machines uses the Integrated Intel Extreme Graphics2 Graphics Card and the other the Integrated Nvidia 6150 3D Graphics Card (this machine is £20 dearer but has other differences beyond the graphics). If you have the funds to spend on new hardware then that's great, but don't worry too much about the integrated graphics. If you find some online offer, feel free to mail this list asking if anyone has one or if anyone can determine whether it will be compatible. There is another machine it's from a company with a lousy rep though (it's an EMachine) and I'd be getting it through Morgan so it's probably a factory restock the specs are Intel Pentium 4 2.93GHz system with MS Windows XP Media Centre * Intel Pentium 4 517 processor (2.93GHz), 512MB DDR RAM * 80GB SATA hard disk and Combination CD-RW and DVD-Rom drive * ATI X200 Radeon shared graphics (up to 128MB shared RAM), 5.1 sound * 56K modem, LAN and USB 2.0 ports Naturally the first thing I'll do is wipe Windows and Install Linux on it but does that machine seem OK? I could put a different graphics card in the machine before I wipe out Windows and install Linux of course. Yes, there is an open source driver which works fine on pretty much every NVidia card out there. There is also a closed-source binary one direct from Nvidia themselves which performs better, but is proprietary. I think I'd stick with the open source driver if it works OK with the Integrated Nvidia 6150 3D Graphics Card. Thanks again for your help. -- Kevin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu
Hi, I'm thinking about getting myself a new PC, it'll be very cheap which of course means integrated graphics which I believe is pretty much a no-no as far as Linux is concerned. How hard is it to disable this as I have a couple of video cards (albeit old ones) that I could install into the machine myself. There is also a slightly more expensive option to have the ASUS EN6200LE TC256/TD 64MB (PCIX DVI VGA TV-Out)installed which is an integrated graphics card but comes with 64 MB on the card itself and I was wondering if Linux would recognise this. Thanks for any help/advice -- Kevin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu
I'm thinking about getting myself a new PC, it'll be very cheap which of course means integrated graphics which I believe is pretty much a no-no as far as Linux is concerned. How hard is it to disable this as I have a couple of video cards (albeit old ones) that I could install into the machine myself. There is also a slightly more expensive option to have the ASUS EN6200LE TC256/TD 64MB (PCIX DVI VGA TV-Out)installed which is an integrated graphics card but comes with 64 MB on the card itself and I was wondering if Linux would recognise this. If it is any help to you I have recently bought a new PC which was made to my specification and cost around £300 mark. Graphics and sound are on the motherboard and I have no trouble in running 06.10. If you want to use video cards then they would automatically supersede the on board graphics but may cause you problems in setting them up. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu
On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 18:34 +, norman wrote: If it is any help to you I have recently bought a new PC which was made to my specification and cost around £300 mark. Graphics and sound are on the motherboard and I have no trouble in running 06.10. If you want to use video cards then they would automatically supersede the on board graphics but may cause you problems in setting them up. This is very helpful, thank you. The only reason I wondered about the integrated graphics was that I have a notebook with that and Linux won't install on it, everything else about the notebook is better than the desktop I have Ubuntu installed on at the moment. If you all want a laugh the specs of the desktop are K63-450, 256 MB RAM, 10 MB H/D, 8 MB ATI card (yep, it's old), Standard CD Drive (not a writer), External CD/RW (USB), Zip 250 (USB) OK, have you all finished laughing yet? As you can see from the specs of the machine I'm using at the moment pretty much anything would be an upgrade for me and I won't be playing games on the machine or dual booting with Windows, it'll be Linux only.The integrated video with the machine I'm considering is an Nvidia 6100 I imagine this will work without probs as I believe Linux works with Nvidia cards (even if they are Integrated). -- Kevin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Integrated graphics cards with Ubuntu
On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 19:27 +, Kevin wrote: This is very helpful, thank you. The only reason I wondered about the integrated graphics was that I have a notebook with that and Linux won't install on it, everything else about the notebook is better than the desktop I have Ubuntu installed on at the moment. If you all want a laugh the specs of the desktop are What happens when you try to install on your laptop? What make/model is it? I don't know many graphics cards (integrated or not) that aren't supported in one way or another in Linux. K63-450, 256 MB RAM, 10 MB H/D, 8 MB ATI card (yep, it's old), Standard CD Drive (not a writer), External CD/RW (USB), Zip 250 (USB) OK, have you all finished laughing yet? Chuck some more memory in it and it would improve considerably. Of course the K3-450 isn't blisteringly fast but that spec is exactly half of the laptop that use daily - a 1GHz Celeron with 512Mb RAM. If you have the funds to spend on new hardware then that's great, but don't worry too much about the integrated graphics. If you find some online offer, feel free to mail this list asking if anyone has one or if anyone can determine whether it will be compatible. The integrated video with the machine I'm considering is an Nvidia 6100 I imagine this will work without probs as I believe Linux works with Nvidia cards (even if they are Integrated). Yes, there is an open source driver which works fine on pretty much every NVidia card out there. There is also a closed-source binary one direct from Nvidia themselves which performs better, but is proprietary. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/