Re: [ubuntu-uk] Just ordered an iPod.. Have I just made a big mistake?

2007-11-12 Thread Ciaran Mooney
Hi,

The new iPods do have some issues. Apple have implemented some kind of
encryption/hash that will only allows the iPod classic and new nano to
update/sync with iTunes.

http://ipodminusitunes.blogspot.com/2007/09/apple-cuts-us-off.html

I don't know if someone has figured out a work around yet, but its
just a matter of time. Personally I'd wait until Rockbox gets released
for the iPod Classic then buy one, as you then get Ogg support.

Hope this helps.

CiarĂ¡n

On Nov 11, 2007 2:22 PM, Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 13:39 +, Kris Douglas wrote:
 
 
  On 11/11/2007, Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 23:29 +, Kris Douglas wrote:
   Hi, a while ago I noticed a thread going on about the iPod
  Classic
   160GB... Now I know, they're expensive and all that, so lets
  forget
   all that flaming...
  
   I was just wondering what the support in Ubuntu was like...
  Are there
   any things I need to look out for when I'm using the device
  on
   Ubuntu?
  
   Thanks,
   Kris Douglas
 Softdel Limited Hosting Services
  
 Web: www.softdel.net
 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  You might be interested in rockbox: http://www.rockbox.org/
  It makes your iPod work like a generic audio player. It isnt
  avaiable
  for iPod classic yet, but I expect it will be soon.
 
 
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  Ooh that's interesting... So this is a replacement os for the device
  that allows you to extend the functionality?
 Yep that's exactly what it is. I've got it on my iPod video 30gb


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Just ordered an iPod.. Have I just made a big mistake?

2007-11-12 Thread Pete Stean
I'm pretty sure that, at the present time, the iPod Touch and the
iPhone *aren't* supported under linux but I guess given a few months
that will appear.

I was at the iPod launch last week and was *that* close to buying an
iPod - god knows how I resisted but I did - they are *gorgeous*  :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Just ordered an iPod.. Have I just made a big mistake?

2007-11-12 Thread Matthew Daubney
Pete Stean wrote:
 I'm pretty sure that, at the present time, the iPod Touch and the
 iPhone *aren't* supported under linux but I guess given a few months
 that will appear.

 I was at the iPod launch last week and was *that* close to buying an
 iPod - god knows how I resisted but I did - they are *gorgeous*  :)

 Pete

   
http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/496-iPod-Classic-Will-Be-Supported.html

Just waiting for the release

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Just ordered an iPod.. Have I just made a big mistake?

2007-11-11 Thread Kris Douglas
On 11/11/2007, Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:29:38 +
 Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi, a while ago I noticed a thread going on about the iPod Classic
  160GB... Now I know, they're expensive and all that, so lets forget
  all that flaming...
 
  I was just wondering what the support in Ubuntu was like... Are there
  any things I need to look out for when I'm using the device on Ubuntu?

 I'm thinking about getting one myself at the moment so have been
 reading up on the linux support: doesn't seem to be any problems using
 the ipod but a few of the docs I've found say you need a windows or mac
 machine to set up the ipod initially (formatting the disk, updating
 firmware etc.)

 Before I do buy an ipod does anyone know of any other music players
 with 60Gb or more of storage? Every other player I can find with that
 kind of storage is aiming more at video so is bigger, has worse battery
 life and costs more than an ipod. If it plays FLAC and/or ogg it gets
 bonus points.

 Robert

 
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I have to say thanks to you all, there is some valuable information here.

And no, i dont think there are any bigger than 30 from what i've seen, hence
buying an ipod.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Just ordered an iPod.. Have I just made a big mistake?

2007-11-11 Thread Matthew Daubney
Kris Douglas wrote:
 Hi, a while ago I noticed a thread going on about the iPod Classic 
 160GB... Now I know, they're expensive and all that, so lets forget 
 all that flaming...

 I was just wondering what the support in Ubuntu was like... Are there 
 any things I need to look out for when I'm using the device on Ubuntu?

 Thanks,
 Kris Douglas
   Softdel Limited Hosting Services

   Web: www.softdel.net http://www.softdel.net
   Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I got myself one of the 80gb classics the other week after my poxy Zen 
crashed on me for the zillionth time. Amarok in the repos doesn't 
support the classics out of the box. You need to get and compile 
libgpod? from they're cvs, and then you might need to rebuild 
amarok. I haven't tried it yet, wimped out on time constraints. 
Might have a go tomorrow though.

-Matt Daubney

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Just ordered an iPod.. Have I just made a big mistake?

2007-11-11 Thread Alec Wright
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 23:29 +, Kris Douglas wrote:
 Hi, a while ago I noticed a thread going on about the iPod Classic
 160GB... Now I know, they're expensive and all that, so lets forget
 all that flaming...
 
 I was just wondering what the support in Ubuntu was like... Are there
 any things I need to look out for when I'm using the device on
 Ubuntu? 
 
 Thanks,
 Kris Douglas
   Softdel Limited Hosting Services
 
   Web: www.softdel.net
   Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You might be interested in rockbox: http://www.rockbox.org/
It makes your iPod work like a generic audio player. It isnt avaiable
for iPod classic yet, but I expect it will be soon.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Just ordered an iPod.. Have I just made a big mistake?

2007-11-11 Thread Kris Douglas
On 11/11/2007, Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 23:29 +, Kris Douglas wrote:
  Hi, a while ago I noticed a thread going on about the iPod Classic
  160GB... Now I know, they're expensive and all that, so lets forget
  all that flaming...
 
  I was just wondering what the support in Ubuntu was like... Are there
  any things I need to look out for when I'm using the device on
  Ubuntu?
 
  Thanks,
  Kris Douglas
Softdel Limited Hosting Services
 
Web: www.softdel.net
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 You might be interested in rockbox: http://www.rockbox.org/
 It makes your iPod work like a generic audio player. It isnt avaiable
 for iPod classic yet, but I expect it will be soon.


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Ooh that's interesting... So this is a replacement os for the device that
allows you to extend the functionality?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Just ordered an iPod.. Have I just made a big mistake?

2007-11-11 Thread andylockran
Kris Douglas wrote:


 On 11/11/2007, *Alec Wright* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 23:29 +, Kris Douglas wrote:
  Hi, a while ago I noticed a thread going on about the iPod Classic
  160GB... Now I know, they're expensive and all that, so lets forget
  all that flaming...
 
  I was just wondering what the support in Ubuntu was like... Are
 there
  any things I need to look out for when I'm using the device on
  Ubuntu?
 
  Thanks,
  Kris Douglas
Softdel Limited Hosting Services
 
Web: www.softdel.net http://www.softdel.net
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 You might be interested in rockbox: http://www.rockbox.org/
 It makes your iPod work like a generic audio player. It isnt avaiable
 for iPod classic yet, but I expect it will be soon.


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 Ooh that's interesting... So this is a replacement os for the device 
 that allows you to extend the functionality?

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   Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Rockbox is a fantastic bit of kit - however, if you have an iPod Car 
Stereo - or an iPod enable hi-fi, I recommend either giving it a miss 
(or joining the dev team to allow these things to work).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Just ordered an iPod.. Have I just made a big mistake?

2007-11-11 Thread Alec Wright
On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 13:39 +, Kris Douglas wrote:
 
 
 On 11/11/2007, Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 23:29 +, Kris Douglas wrote:
  Hi, a while ago I noticed a thread going on about the iPod
 Classic
  160GB... Now I know, they're expensive and all that, so lets
 forget
  all that flaming... 
 
  I was just wondering what the support in Ubuntu was like...
 Are there
  any things I need to look out for when I'm using the device
 on
  Ubuntu?
 
  Thanks,
  Kris Douglas 
Softdel Limited Hosting Services
 
Web: www.softdel.net
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 You might be interested in rockbox: http://www.rockbox.org/
 It makes your iPod work like a generic audio player. It isnt
 avaiable
 for iPod classic yet, but I expect it will be soon.
 
 
 --
 ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
 
 Ooh that's interesting... So this is a replacement os for the device
 that allows you to extend the functionality?
Yep that's exactly what it is. I've got it on my iPod video 30gb


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Just ordered an iPod.. Have I just made a big mistake?

2007-11-10 Thread Rob Beard
Kris Douglas wrote:
 Hi, a while ago I noticed a thread going on about the iPod Classic 
 160GB... Now I know, they're expensive and all that, so lets forget all 
 that flaming...
 
 I was just wondering what the support in Ubuntu was like... Are there 
 any things I need to look out for when I'm using the device on Ubuntu?
 
 Thanks,
 Kris Douglas
   Softdel Limited Hosting Services


As far as I was aware they work fine, but I don't personally own an iPod 
(and I doubt I will unless someone gives me one as a present) so I can't 
be sure if that's correct or not. (I vaguely remember something about 
Apple changing something on the newer iPods so they didn't work on Linux 
but I'm pretty sure it was fixed).

Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Just ordered an iPod.. Have I just made a big mistake?

2007-11-10 Thread Alan Pope

On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 23:29 +, Kris Douglas wrote:
 Hi, a while ago I noticed a thread going on about the iPod Classic
 160GB... Now I know, they're expensive and all that, so lets forget
 all that flaming...
 

Holy cow. I never realised they did iPods that massive. No, stoppit,
must resist!

 I was just wondering what the support in Ubuntu was like... Are there
 any things I need to look out for when I'm using the device on
 Ubuntu? 

As I understand it banshee supports these devices. Maybe not the version
in the repo, you might need to compile one from upstream, but I'm pretty
sure at UDS the Banshee guys said they supported all iPods now.

Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Just ordered an iPod.. Have I just made a big mistake?

2007-11-10 Thread Josh Blacker

On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 23:29 +, Kris Douglas wrote:
 Hi, a while ago I noticed a thread going on about the iPod Classic
 160GB... Now I know, they're expensive and all that, so lets forget
 all that flaming...
 
 I was just wondering what the support in Ubuntu was like... Are there
 any things I need to look out for when I'm using the device on
 Ubuntu? 
 
 Thanks,
 Kris Douglas

If you don't mind the KDE libraries, I've found Amarok is brilliant for
managing the music on my iPod Nano (1st gen, 4 gig), but as other
replies have said there have been issues with the newer models, but I am
pretty sure these have been remedied.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Just ordered an iPod.. Have I just made a big mistake?

2007-11-10 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:29:38 +
Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, a while ago I noticed a thread going on about the iPod Classic
 160GB... Now I know, they're expensive and all that, so lets forget
 all that flaming...
 
 I was just wondering what the support in Ubuntu was like... Are there
 any things I need to look out for when I'm using the device on Ubuntu?

I'm thinking about getting one myself at the moment so have been
reading up on the linux support: doesn't seem to be any problems using
the ipod but a few of the docs I've found say you need a windows or mac
machine to set up the ipod initially (formatting the disk, updating
firmware etc.)

Before I do buy an ipod does anyone know of any other music players
with 60Gb or more of storage? Every other player I can find with that
kind of storage is aiming more at video so is bigger, has worse battery
life and costs more than an ipod. If it plays FLAC and/or ogg it gets
bonus points. 

Robert


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