Re: [ubuntu-uk] LTS or Latest Version??

[Matthew Wild]

On 20 October 2010 00:07, Chris Coulson  wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 23:58 +0100, Matthew Wild wrote:
>> On 19 October 2010 23:32, Tony Doherty  wrote:
>> > I am always keen to update to the latest releases of Ubuntu.
>> >
>> > However, can I ask - if I were to stick with a LTS version such as 10.4 
>> > long term - would this version eventually receive updates to upgrade to 
>> > the latest versions of, say, FireFox and OpenOffice when they become 
>> > available?
>> >
>>
>> Generally no. The software versions stay as they are when that version
>> of Ubuntu was released. The only updates are to fix bugs. Sometimes
>> this means updating to a new bugfix release of given software,
>> sometimes it means Ubuntu manually applying bugfixes in their
>> packages.
>
> Well, the LTS *will* get a new version of Firefox in the future (once
> 3.6 is end-of-life), although it will most likely skip 4.0.
>

Exactly why I qualified my "no" with "generally" and linked to the SRU
wiki page for the further curious ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LTS or Latest Version??

[Paul Willis]

On 20 Oct 2010, at 12:54, Chris Coulson wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 06:58 +0100, Alan Bell wrote:
>> On 20/10/10 00:07, Chris Coulson wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, the LTS *will* get a new version of Firefox in the future (once
>>> 3.6 is end-of-life), although it will most likely skip 4.0.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Chris
>> no, don't think 10.04 LTS will get a new version of Firefox, however if 
>> you install 10.04 you will be able to stick with it and upgrade to 12.04 
>> LTS without going through the intermediate steps, and 12.04 will have 
>> shiny new versions of stuff when it comes out.
>> 
>> Alan.
> 
> That's not quite right. Being the maintainer, I can assure you that
> Lucid will not be staying on version 3.6 of Firefox forever.
> 
> Regards
> Chris

While Chris is right I think it only clouds the issue. The general rule is that 
once a release is official the only changes are bug fixes.

Firefox is one of the exceptions 


Generally if you want newer versions of packages you need to enable Backports 


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LTS or Latest Version??

[Chris Coulson]

On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 06:58 +0100, Alan Bell wrote:
> On 20/10/10 00:07, Chris Coulson wrote:
> >
> > Well, the LTS *will* get a new version of Firefox in the future (once
> > 3.6 is end-of-life), although it will most likely skip 4.0.
> >
> > Regards
> > Chris
> no, don't think 10.04 LTS will get a new version of Firefox, however if 
> you install 10.04 you will be able to stick with it and upgrade to 12.04 
> LTS without going through the intermediate steps, and 12.04 will have 
> shiny new versions of stuff when it comes out.
> 
> Alan.
> 

That's not quite right. Being the maintainer, I can assure you that
Lucid will not be staying on version 3.6 of Firefox forever.

Regards
Chris


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LTS or Latest Version??

[Neil Greenwood]

On 20 October 2010 06:58, Alan Bell  wrote:
>  On 20/10/10 00:07, Chris Coulson wrote:
>>
>> Well, the LTS *will* get a new version of Firefox in the future (once
>> 3.6 is end-of-life), although it will most likely skip 4.0.
>>
>> Regards
>> Chris
> no, don't think 10.04 LTS will get a new version of Firefox, however if
> you install 10.04 you will be able to stick with it and upgrade to 12.04
> LTS without going through the intermediate steps, and 12.04 will have
> shiny new versions of stuff when it comes out.
>
> Alan.
>

And if you *really* want a newer version, you could look into enabling
the '-backports' repository, which will get a newer version of
packages like firefox.

It means that the LTS installation ends up *slightly* less stable than
normal, but more stable than the 6-monthly release.


Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LTS or Latest Version??

[Alan Bell]

  On 20/10/10 00:07, Chris Coulson wrote:
>
> Well, the LTS *will* get a new version of Firefox in the future (once
> 3.6 is end-of-life), although it will most likely skip 4.0.
>
> Regards
> Chris
no, don't think 10.04 LTS will get a new version of Firefox, however if 
you install 10.04 you will be able to stick with it and upgrade to 12.04 
LTS without going through the intermediate steps, and 12.04 will have 
shiny new versions of stuff when it comes out.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LTS or Latest Version??

[Chris Coulson]

On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 23:58 +0100, Matthew Wild wrote:
> On 19 October 2010 23:32, Tony Doherty  wrote:
> > I am always keen to update to the latest releases of Ubuntu.
> >
> > However, can I ask - if I were to stick with a LTS version such as 10.4 
> > long term - would this version eventually receive updates to upgrade to the 
> > latest versions of, say, FireFox and OpenOffice when they become available?
> >
> 
> Generally no. The software versions stay as they are when that version
> of Ubuntu was released. The only updates are to fix bugs. Sometimes
> this means updating to a new bugfix release of given software,
> sometimes it means Ubuntu manually applying bugfixes in their
> packages.

Well, the LTS *will* get a new version of Firefox in the future (once
3.6 is end-of-life), although it will most likely skip 4.0.

Regards
Chris


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LTS or Latest Version??

[Matthew Wild]

On 19 October 2010 23:32, Tony Doherty  wrote:
> I am always keen to update to the latest releases of Ubuntu.
>
> However, can I ask - if I were to stick with a LTS version such as 10.4 long 
> term - would this version eventually receive updates to upgrade to the latest 
> versions of, say, FireFox and OpenOffice when they become available?
>

Generally no. The software versions stay as they are when that version
of Ubuntu was released. The only updates are to fix bugs. Sometimes
this means updating to a new bugfix release of given software,
sometimes it means Ubuntu manually applying bugfixes in their
packages.

It's aimed a little more at developers and packagers than end users,
but this page explains a bit behind it:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates

Regards,
Matthew

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LTS or Latest Version??

[Daniel Case]

With the LTS versions they have "mini" updates. So eventually it goes to:
10.04.1, then 10.04.2...with these will come the stable builds of new
software :)

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[ubuntu-uk] LTS or Latest Version??

[Tony Doherty]

I am always keen to update to the latest releases of Ubuntu.

However, can I ask - if I were to stick with a LTS version such as 10.4 long 
term - would this version eventually receive updates to upgrade to the latest 
versions of, say, FireFox and OpenOffice when they become available?

Or, are the LTS version releases synchronised to match new releases of the 
above software?

In short - for a relative newbie like me (1 year's experience!!) - what is the 
policy behind Ubuntu releases?


Many Thanks





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