Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices

2008-05-13 Thread Sean Miller
HP laptop - 15" widescreen, 2GB RAM, 120GB hard drive... £379.99 at Tesco.

For your £1,000 you can buy a couple of them and still have a couple of
hundred quid spare to spend on other things.

Every little helps, as Tesco like to say.

Sean
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices

2008-05-13 Thread Andrew Oakley
Jai Harrison wrote:
> I would like to be able to run Ubuntu with desktop effects and plenty
> of spare resources for things such as gaming through Wine (nothing too
> heavy - Age of Mythology, would like to give Age of Empires 3 a try),
> running virtual machines on, etc. The laptop should be decent with
> said things for the next 3 years (my bachelor's degree course length).

I like my Dell Inspiron 1520. Dual-core for oomph, Intel i965/X3100 
graphics works great with Compiz under Hardy, just about plays Portal 
and Neverwinter Nights when I dual-boot into MS-Windows. Broadcom WiFi 
works through propriatory drivers.

Dell and Intel actively sponsor development of open-source drivers for 
their hardware (notably, the Intel i965 driver was massively improved 
for Hardy; Dell gave away laptops to graphics driver developers to 
encourage this).

I got mine for GBP450 about four months ago.

So long as I don't try to play Team Fortress 2 on it, it seems happy.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices

2008-05-13 Thread Jai Harrison
Just to clarify, the reason I'm so paranoid about purchase of a new
laptop is the hell that this Acer laptop has given me in terms of
constant problems and having to continually send it off for repair.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices

2008-05-13 Thread Jai Harrison
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:14 PM, James Hooker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Jai -

Hey Jim

>  Had a look about:
>
>  I know the Dell XPS laptops have been pretty good with Ubuntu... the
>  13.3" screens start at £599 and the 15.4 inch screens start at £539

I'm not sure about this particular range of Dell laptops but I've
heard bad things about their delivery service which leads me to doubt
if it's a good idea to buy anything from them at all.

>  I've heard good things about Ubuntu running on Fujitsu Lifebook
>  series.. the build quality is very good and they are pretty nice to
>  look at.

I'll look into those. I took a quick look just now and was put off by
their choice to force Windows Vista upon their notebooks (it seems a
lot of companies still offer XP and, if I have to pay for a Microsoft
OS, I'd rather show them how much everyone hates Vista).

>  My personal opinion is that Lenovo/IBM ThinkPads are the best - but
>  might push your budget a little.

I guess you're referring to their X series. I've heard some good stuff
about them and the cheapest in the range still offers Windows XP as
part of the bundle as oppose to Vista. Not ideal but I doubt they're
going to realise that a large proportion of their user base is Linux
users soon or perhaps they just don't care.

The cheapest price I can find for anything in the newer X series
(X61s) is Price: £1,151.14 inc VAT and that's with a 4 Cell
Lithium-Ion Slim Line Battery. I'm guessing I could always treat
myself to a 8 Cell which is more ideal after the original died (for
around £100 extra). They include a 3 year warranty as standard, right?

I was leaning towards the thinkpads before but my dad urged me to save
my money. I don't know what to decide on the matter. Are they really
worth the cash they cost?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices

2008-05-13 Thread James Hooker
Hi Jai -

Had a look about:

I know the Dell XPS laptops have been pretty good with Ubuntu... the  
13.3" screens start at £599 and the 15.4 inch screens start at £539

I've heard good things about Ubuntu running on Fujitsu Lifebook  
series.. the build quality is very good and they are pretty nice to  
look at.

My personal opinion is that Lenovo/IBM ThinkPads are the best - but  
might push your budget a little.

Jim


On 13 May 2008, at 20:42, Jai Harrison wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> The time is approaching, the time when I buy a new laptop.
>
> My current one is an Acer TravelMate 4150. It's the most awful laptop
> ever. I have currently sent it in for repair twice and now something
> else has gone wrong with it so it looks like I'm going to have to send
> it in again. Acer's awful quality is leading me to *STAY AWAY* from
> them when purchasing my new notebook.
>
> I'm sure there's plenty of recommendations that you guys (and gals)
> can come up with based on your experience. Both in terms of hardware
> support in GNU/Linux and overall stability and efficiency of the
> hardware. I would also appreciate it if you could stick to hardware
> that requires low, if any, proprietary drivers (e.g. proprietary WiFi
> seems to be the norm so there's not much I can do about that).
>
> I would like to set the budget at one thousand pounds (£1,000) as I'm
> a student and so that's already pushing it for the price. I need all
> of the money I can get to put towards university.
>
> Jai / "Venko"
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices

2008-05-13 Thread Josh Blacker
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 21:02 +0100, Jai Harrison wrote, among other
things:
>  The laptop should be decent with
> said things for the next 3 years (my bachelor's degree course length).
> 
> Jai
> 

I would recommend Dell, as many others have done. I bought an Inspiron
6000 at the beginning of my last year of sixth form and it is still
going strong (if with very diminished battery life, as can be expected)
at the end of my 2nd year of university (three years now - no gap
year!). I did have a hard drive failure, but this fortunately fell under
warranty and if you don't have back-ups in case of this possibility
you're a silly person in the first place. 

The build quality is decent, although as my flatmate has discovered with
his Inspiron (a newer model), they don't particularly like being dropped
all the time - it still works fine, but the screen hinge is now a bit
dodgy. (Plus it still has Windows on it, of course.)

Can't say anything about the Ubuntu Dells, but I wouldn't say no to a
new Dell when the time comes for me to get a new machine.

Hope that helps!
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices

2008-05-13 Thread Rob Beard
Jai Harrison wrote:
> Hey All,
> 
> The time is approaching, the time when I buy a new laptop.
> 

> 
> I would like to set the budget at one thousand pounds (£1,000) as I'm
> a student and so that's already pushing it for the price. I need all
> of the money I can get to put towards university.
> 
> Jai / "Venko"
> 

Well I'd say my Dell Latitude D610 is really well supported.  Everything 
works out of the box.  I can't say I've tried the newer Latitudes (D630) 
but looking at the spec, they seem to be pretty much the same with an 
Intel CPU/chipset, Intel Wireless (although IIRC they have Nvidia video 
on board rather than ATI, although this might just be the model we got 
in at work).

Maybe you might be worth looking at the Dell Ubuntu laptops.  I'm sure 
you could probably get a pretty decent dual core laptop for around the 
£600 mark which would last you for a good couple of years.  Might be 
worth checking out about insurance too, just for that piece of mind.

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices

2008-05-13 Thread Jai Harrison
Hey,

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:51 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>
>  What are you going to be using it for? If you only have basic needs
>  then a £500 one would be fine. Are you looking for something small and
>  portable or a full desktop replacement. The xps m1330 is good, and I
>  think uses nearly all free drivers if you choose the intel graphics.
>

I'm after a general purpose laptop for full-time use (as in I don't
use another computer of any kind).

I would like to be able to run Ubuntu with desktop effects and plenty
of spare resources for things such as gaming through Wine (nothing too
heavy - Age of Mythology, would like to give Age of Empires 3 a try),
running virtual machines on, etc. The laptop should be decent with
said things for the next 3 years (my bachelor's degree course length).

Jai

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices

2008-05-13 Thread matt
Quoting Jai Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hey All,
>
> The time is approaching, the time when I buy a new laptop.
>
> My current one is an Acer TravelMate 4150. It's the most awful laptop
> ever. I have currently sent it in for repair twice and now something
> else has gone wrong with it so it looks like I'm going to have to send
> it in again. Acer's awful quality is leading me to *STAY AWAY* from
> them when purchasing my new notebook.
>
> I'm sure there's plenty of recommendations that you guys (and gals)
> can come up with based on your experience. Both in terms of hardware
> support in GNU/Linux and overall stability and efficiency of the
> hardware. I would also appreciate it if you could stick to hardware
> that requires low, if any, proprietary drivers (e.g. proprietary WiFi
> seems to be the norm so there's not much I can do about that).
>
> I would like to set the budget at one thousand pounds (£1,000) as I'm
> a student and so that's already pushing it for the price. I need all
> of the money I can get to put towards university.
>
> Jai / "Venko"
>
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What are you going to be using it for? If you only have basic needs  
then a £500 one would be fine. Are you looking for something small and  
portable or a full desktop replacement. The xps m1330 is good, and I  
think uses nearly all free drivers if you choose the intel graphics.

The dell vostros are pretty nice too.

Or you could but 3 eee900's ;)
Mj


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[ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices

2008-05-13 Thread Jai Harrison
Hey All,

The time is approaching, the time when I buy a new laptop.

My current one is an Acer TravelMate 4150. It's the most awful laptop
ever. I have currently sent it in for repair twice and now something
else has gone wrong with it so it looks like I'm going to have to send
it in again. Acer's awful quality is leading me to *STAY AWAY* from
them when purchasing my new notebook.

I'm sure there's plenty of recommendations that you guys (and gals)
can come up with based on your experience. Both in terms of hardware
support in GNU/Linux and overall stability and efficiency of the
hardware. I would also appreciate it if you could stick to hardware
that requires low, if any, proprietary drivers (e.g. proprietary WiFi
seems to be the norm so there's not much I can do about that).

I would like to set the budget at one thousand pounds (£1,000) as I'm
a student and so that's already pushing it for the price. I need all
of the money I can get to put towards university.

Jai / "Venko"

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